Re: Plug-ins (was: Update on the Beta work for The Bat - Calendar function)
Hi, > Enhancements needed, for interacting with calendars: attached picture is what > needs to be covered. > Outlook is your main opportunity, as you know, to carve out a teeny market > share from ordinary users on Win 10, > as well as commercial users that have to interact with M'soft Active > Directory environments, without > being forced to use Outlook. Also, the requested calendar-posting > capabilities needed will cover users > having to work with Teams, Zoom, etc. So, Google calendar, Outlook/Exchange > calendar entries, and iCal entries > covers most of the bases that really matter. Second that so much! Currently, for every meeting invitation I have to fire up Thunderbird to accept/decline the invitation and to import it into my CalDav calendar(s). To say nothing of the fact that I can't plan meetings myself without - again - referring to an external tool. A full calendar with all the management tools would be a dream come true. -- MfG, Altomailto: 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-ins (was: Update on the Beta work for The Bat - Calendar function)
martes, 16 mar. 2021 at 02:44, it seems you wrote: > I don't like the standard templates for New Message / Reply / Forward and > have to manually change them each time I create a new account (every > orgnisations I deal with, often in free lance work, wants me to have an email > address at their orgnisation, so this happens often). I don't know whether > this would warrant a plug-in, I just want to throw it in here. I use share QuickTemplates, and I call they on the templates of accounts, folders. I can reuse code with that setup easily, and If I change one quicktemplate that change applies to all the templates who use it. You can use several quicktemplates on a folder/account template without any problem. Regards, -- /\ / Using The Bat! x64 9.3.3 Professional + OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows (10.0.19042 ) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.3.4.6 Spanish Translator of The Bat! 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-ins (was: Update on the Beta work for The Bat - Calendar function)
Stuart, > Hello Stefan, > Enhancements needed, for interacting with calendars: attached picture is what > needs to be covered. > Outlook is your main opportunity, as you know, to carve out a teeny market > share from ordinary users on Win 10, > as well as commercial users that have to interact with M'soft Active > Directory environments, without > being forced to use Outlook. Also, the requested calendar-posting > capabilities needed will cover users > having to work with Teams, Zoom, etc. So, Google calendar, Outlook/Exchange > calendar entries, and iCal entries > covers most of the bases that really matter. Are we starting to get a picture of exactly how much complexity this proposed feature adds? For a teeny market share? > > Stuart Pye > somewhere is the States Yes, they are somewhere. > Monday, March 15, 2021, 10:34:29 AM, you wrote: >> Hello Thomas and Dear All, Yes, you are certainly right. A plug-in may be the way to go to satisfy everyone. >>> Thanks! I hope Stefan is reading this. >> I do read this. Yes, a good plug-in system is our long dreamed dream. As >> many probably know, the current plug-in system is based on compiled DLLs and >> it was not very popular through all years of its existence. This makes me >> thinking of developing a new way to extend The Bat! functionality... >> So, let's start a thread about plug-ins - please feel free to post anything >> you find suitable on this topic: views, wishes, concerns. I promise our team >> will read it carefully :-) (don't treat my smile like I'm joking, I just >> like to smile, but I am always serious about promises I make). >> Here is something for the start: >> We plan to implement Python bridge for system-related functionality, Python >> is a popular language and it has a lot of libraries for working with OS, >> network and even AI and Big Data. Plus, it supports multithreading out of >> the box which is good for a multithreaded program like The Bat! >> For stuff inside message viewer, alternative message editor and other areas >> where we can use a Chromium-based view, we this of use of something similar >> to web browser extensions which means it will be JavaScript+HTML+CSS >> It will be possible to create custom filter actions / conditions, >> viewer/editor commands, address book extension, template macros... >> OK, this is what is in my head on this topic now. Community feedback is >> needed :-) -- Gleason TheBat! 9.3.3.1 Pro (64bit, no OTFE) on Windows 10.0 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-ins (was: Update on the Beta work for The Bat - Calendar function)
Hello Stefan, Enhancements needed, for interacting with calendars: attached picture is what needs to be covered. Outlook is your main opportunity, as you know, to carve out a teeny market share from ordinary users on Win 10, as well as commercial users that have to interact with M'soft Active Directory environments, without being forced to use Outlook. Also, the requested calendar-posting capabilities needed will cover users having to work with Teams, Zoom, etc. So, Google calendar, Outlook/Exchange calendar entries, and iCal entries covers most of the bases that really matter. Stuart Pye somewhere is the States Monday, March 15, 2021, 10:34:29 AM, you wrote: > Hello Thomas and Dear All, >>> Yes, you are certainly right. A plug-in may be the way to go to >>> satisfy everyone. >> Thanks! I hope Stefan is reading this. > I do read this. Yes, a good plug-in system is our long dreamed dream. As many > probably know, the current plug-in system is based on compiled DLLs and it > was not very popular through all years of its existence. This makes me > thinking of developing a new way to extend The Bat! functionality... > So, let's start a thread about plug-ins - please feel free to post anything > you find suitable on this topic: views, wishes, concerns. I promise our team > will read it carefully :-) (don't treat my smile like I'm joking, I just like > to smile, but I am always serious about promises I make). > Here is something for the start: > We plan to implement Python bridge for system-related functionality, Python > is a popular language and it has a lot of libraries for working with OS, > network and even AI and Big Data. Plus, it supports multithreading out of the > box which is good for a multithreaded program like The Bat! > For stuff inside message viewer, alternative message editor and other areas > where we can use a Chromium-based view, we this of use of something similar > to web browser extensions which means it will be JavaScript+HTML+CSS > It will be possible to create custom filter actions / conditions, > viewer/editor commands, address book extension, template macros... > OK, this is what is in my head on this topic now. Community feedback is > needed :-) -- Best regards, Stuart Pye 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-ins (was: Update on the Beta work for The Bat - Calendar function)
Hello Stefan, On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 16:34:29 +0200 GMT (15-Mar-21, 21:34 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >>> Yes, you are certainly right. A plug-in may be the way to go to >>> satisfy everyone. >> Thanks! I hope Stefan is reading this. > I do read this. Yes, a good plug-in system is our long dreamed dream. As many > probably know, the current plug-in system is based on compiled DLLs and it > was not very popular through all years of its existence. This makes me > thinking of developing a new way to extend The Bat! functionality... First of all, thanks for listening! > So, let's start a thread about plug-ins - please feel free to post anything > you find suitable on this topic: views, wishes, concerns. I promise our team > will read it carefully :-) (don't treat my smile like I'm joking, I just like > to smile, but I am always serious about promises I make). > Here is something for the start: [...] The top of my programming skills were when Turbo Pascal was the latest - we used pointer types, the predecessor of OOP. I learned Java later, but that was years ago. So I cannot say much or recommend anything about the technical implementation. > We plan to implement Python bridge for system-related functionality, Python > is a popular language and it has a lot of libraries for working with OS, > network and even AI and Big Data. Plus, it supports multithreading out of the > box which is good for a multithreaded program like The Bat! > For stuff inside message viewer, alternative message editor and other areas > where we can use a Chromium-based view, we this of use of something similar > to web browser extensions which means it will be JavaScript+HTML+CSS > It will be possible to create custom filter actions / conditions, > viewer/editor commands, address book extension, template macros... This sounds good, and I can indeed comment on functionalities! I don't like the standard templates for New Message / Reply / Forward and have to manually change them each time I create a new account (every orgnisations I deal with, often in free lance work, wants me to have an email address at their orgnisation, so this happens often). I don't know whether this would warrant a plug-in, I just want to throw it in here. > OK, this is what is in my head on this topic now. Community feedback is > needed :-) Let's brainstorm then! -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.3.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Plug-ins (was: Update on the Beta work for The Bat - Calendar function)
Hello Thomas and Dear All, >> Yes, you are certainly right. A plug-in may be the way to go to >> satisfy everyone. > Thanks! I hope Stefan is reading this. I do read this. Yes, a good plug-in system is our long dreamed dream. As many probably know, the current plug-in system is based on compiled DLLs and it was not very popular through all years of its existence. This makes me thinking of developing a new way to extend The Bat! functionality... So, let's start a thread about plug-ins - please feel free to post anything you find suitable on this topic: views, wishes, concerns. I promise our team will read it carefully :-) (don't treat my smile like I'm joking, I just like to smile, but I am always serious about promises I make). Here is something for the start: We plan to implement Python bridge for system-related functionality, Python is a popular language and it has a lot of libraries for working with OS, network and even AI and Big Data. Plus, it supports multithreading out of the box which is good for a multithreaded program like The Bat! For stuff inside message viewer, alternative message editor and other areas where we can use a Chromium-based view, we this of use of something similar to web browser extensions which means it will be JavaScript+HTML+CSS It will be possible to create custom filter actions / conditions, viewer/editor commands, address book extension, template macros... OK, this is what is in my head on this topic now. Community feedback is needed :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
