Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-08 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, June 8, 2009, 3:54:13 PM, Gleason Pace wrote:

> Yes, and it is not true that Imap is totally useless for those who use
> Imap.   This isn't the first time you have heard that.  But as soon as
> the  successful Imapers get quiet you are right back on the same track
> again.  Which makes me think something else is going on.

I use IMAP and TB! on 7 Fastmail accounts and have not had any major
issues with it. There are problems with the message counts on my
laptop (but not PC), which constantly shows unread messages that don't
exist or negative message counts, but the basic functionality appears
to be OK. However, I have not tried any other IMAP mail clients other
than Snappermail on my Palm Treo 650, so I don't really have any basis
of comparison.

I found that the big problem with IMAP in TB! is the poor
documentation. As a newbie to IMAP, I found the instructions in TB
unhelpful and I wonder whether this is part of the problem. A clear
explanation of how IMAP should work in TB together with the options
would go a long way to making the implementation of it more pleasant
than it is now. 

Of course, IMHO, as a still relatively inexperienced IMAP user.

Julian

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-08 Thread Christian Grams

Gleason Pace schrieb:

Christian,

  

Gleason Pace schrieb:

Congrats on not listening to your BETA List and bringing out another 
bugged version.

And once again a totally useless version for those using IMAP.



Why make inflammatory statements that you must know are not correct?

  
  

Interesting statement seeing all the replies made to this thread plus a
thread not too old about IMAP.



Yes, and it is not true that Imap is totally useless for those who use
Imap.   This isn't the first time you have heard that.  But as soon as
the  successful Imapers get quiet you are right back on the same track
again.  Which makes me think something else is going on.


  
think what you like and add what you like with your imagination, i have 
written what i think.


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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-08 Thread Gleason Pace

Christian,

> Finally - "useless" - it is. What sense is there in using a client - or
> even wanting a customer to buy it - and having to tell them - but don´t
> use IMAP! Even though the package says it supports IMAP - just don´t use
> it.
> If you want to use it - well then make ready for errors, no working IMAP
> connections and so on

Not so and you know it.

> how to fix it? welll Just close the
> application and restart it... now that is great advice! Will tell that
> my customers when they have a problem with a server or client OS - just
> restart the computer it will fix itself!

> I WANT A STATEMENT FROM RITLABS!! Finally tell this listing what is 
> happening to IMAPs - if anything - give us a timeframe - a project plan
> - a milestone - anything !! But something that works as it should!

Come on Christian, tell us what your real agenda is.


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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-08 Thread Gleason Pace

Christian,

> Gleason Pace schrieb:
>>
>>> Congrats on not listening to your BETA List and bringing out another 
>>> bugged version.
>>> And once again a totally useless version for those using IMAP.
>>> 
>>
>> Why make inflammatory statements that you must know are not correct?
>>
>>   
> Interesting statement seeing all the replies made to this thread plus a
> thread not too old about IMAP.

Yes, and it is not true that Imap is totally useless for those who use
Imap.   This isn't the first time you have heard that.  But as soon as
the  successful Imapers get quiet you are right back on the same track
again.  Which makes me think something else is going on.


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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-08 Thread Christian Grams

Ethan J Mings schrieb:

 grow weary of the "blind shots" that are not well documented simply
listed here in the forum. Your message, "... totally useless version
for using IMAP" is in accurate because it does work. Put the concern
in the bug track or give a link to the specific existing bug track
item.  Otherwise, enough of the generalizations and blind shots!

I for one, just want to get on with testing and applying the product.

Jerry
  



Okay, it may be overly unprecise my statement - but it got people 
talking / writing about IMAP once again - that is my goal.
As long as Ritlabs does not official post a statement saying they give 
up on IMAP implementation on TB! then i will not give up on buging them 
(and maybe you) about it.


IMAP is one of the most important (business related) protocols and 
now don´t start arguing that TB! is not meant for business clients! Why 
then would Ritlabs produce their own "professional" version or even a 
email server ?
POP3 is still mainly used because casual users and non experts only know 
about it. If the broad public would actually know about the qualities 
and functions of IMAP they would probably all want to switch. Why 
otherwise would large companies that provide email services allow the 
usage of IMAP?


I am tired of repeating and tired of having to list errors or report the 
same things over and over and over again. Check the bug tracker yourself 
and you will see alot of IMAP related bugs.


Finally - "useless" - it is. What sense is there in using a client - or 
even wanting a customer to buy it - and having to tell them - but don´t 
use IMAP! Even though the package says it supports IMAP - just don´t use 
it.
If you want to use it - well then make ready for errors, no working IMAP 
connections and so on how to fix it? welll Just close the 
application and restart it... now that is great advice! Will tell that 
my customers when they have a problem with a server or client OS - just 
restart the computer it will fix itself!


I WANT A STATEMENT FROM RITLABS!! Finally tell this listing what is 
happening to IMAPs - if anything - give us a timeframe - a project plan 
- a milestone - anything !! But something that works as it should!


regards
Christian


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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-08 Thread Christian Grams

Gleason Pace schrieb:


Congrats on not listening to your BETA List and bringing out another 
bugged version.

And once again a totally useless version for those using IMAP.



Why make inflammatory statements that you must know are not correct?

  
Interesting statement seeing all the replies made to this thread plus a 
thread not too old about IMAP.


regards
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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-08 Thread Gleason Pace

Christian,

> Maxim Masiutin schrieb:
>> Hello Tbbeta,
>>
>> We didn't change the EXE file, just repacked the MSI with the new THEBAT.LNG:
>>
>> www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-2.msi
>> www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_4-2.msi
>> www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_4-2.msi  
>> www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_4-2.msi
>>
>>
>>   
> Congrats on not listening to your BETA List and bringing out another 
> bugged version.
> And once again a totally useless version for those using IMAP.

Why make inflammatory statements that you must know are not correct?


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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-08 Thread Ethan J Mings
Hello Vilius,

Monday, June 8, 2009, 1:33:24 AM, you wrote:

> Yes, it was reported 4 year ago:
> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4880

Excellent.

RIT can use the information as they move forward.

Jerry

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RE: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-07 Thread Vilius Šumskas
> > in  vista,  the  only  way  for message counts to be accurate, or for
> > messages  which may have been read at another venue to not be treated
> > as  unread,  is  to close and re open the program. I have some outbox
> > problems where messages either get trapped there, and never go out,
> or
> > where messages get sent, but still appear in the outbox. Those are
> the
> > most  aggravating.  The message counting and keeping track of what is
> > read are really pretty serious flaws.
> 
> That is concrete.
> 
> Is it in the bug track?

Yes, it was reported 4 year ago: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4880



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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-07 Thread Ethan J Mings
Hello Dwight,

Sunday, June 7, 2009, 3:37:26 PM, you wrote:

> in  vista,  the  only  way  for message counts to be accurate, or for 
> messages  which may have been read at another venue to not be treated 
> as  unread,  is  to close and re open the program. I have some outbox 
> problems where messages either get trapped there, and never go out, or
> where messages get sent, but still appear in the outbox. Those are the
> most  aggravating.  The message counting and keeping track of what is 
> read are really pretty serious flaws. 

That is concrete.

Is it in the bug track?

Jerry

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-07 Thread Ethan J Mings
Hello Dwight,

Sunday, June 7, 2009, 3:41:40 PM, you wrote:

> perhaps  you haven't been paying attention?

I've been paying close attention of a long period of time.  I'm a long
time member of the list.

My point was focus on moving away from general statements to concrete
points.

> we were told that work on IMAP was coming, and it has been obvious
> that there was no point hoping anything was going to happen until
> the rework which has reportedly been done and soon to be offered for
> testing, so no one has been re-reporting complaints.

I understand the point on frustration.  What I find continually
frustrating is broad based general statements that are not
substantiated.  Being specific is, in my opinion, an important element
of beta testing any piece of software.

> If users were endlessly complaining we would be offering a litany of
> what wasn't fixed with each new beta, and you'd see what 'endless
> complaints' would be like.

As just mentioned, if something is not working, I hope that it will be
added to the bug track or the issue would be added to an existing bug
track point.

Appreciate your follow up notes.

Jerry



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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-07 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Monday, June 8, 2009, Arjan de Groot wrote:

>> And: I think someone with knowledge about that posted that 4.2 will
>> be the version with IMAP working. Obviously that was marketing.

nobody told this, 4.2 is minor upgrade with more bugfixes than additions,
yes, postponed sending is available, but there are importans bugfixes and
this is reason this version was released as final.

> IIRC, IMAP development will be continued AFTER the establishment of
> the new database format. Which could mean anytime, from v. 4.1 onward
> until v. 68876589.3245234.12341231.00457734 onward.

and it continued, even it is not visible yet. I can not tell more, Stef
should do clear statement.

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-07 Thread Arjan de Groot
On zondag 7 juni 2009, 8:11:45 PM Raymund Tump wrote,

> And: I think someone with knowledge about that posted that 4.2 will
> be the version with IMAP working. Obviously that was marketing.

IIRC, IMAP development will be continued AFTER the establishment of
the new database format. Which could mean anytime, from v. 4.1 onward
until v. 68876589.3245234.12341231.00457734 onward.

> The only reason that I'm still with The Bat! is that I really like
> the MicroEd. But with my major account not working from time to time
> this advantage gets smaller and smaller.

The only reason I'm still using TB! is its superior filtering-to-file
capability. It has its flaws, but for me it's still the best method
for non-attendance e-mail archiving.

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-07 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Sunday, June 7, 2009, 8:39:39 AM, Ethan J Mings wrote:

> What is it exactly that is required in IMAP?  I keep hearing, reading and
> observing endless "complaints".  If its a complaint, so be it.  If its
> a real IMAP bug, report in bug track.


perhaps  you haven't been paying attention? we were told that work on 
IMAP  was  coming,  and  it  has been obvious that there was no point 
hoping  anything  was  going  to  happen  until  the rework which has 
reportedly been done and soon to be offered for testing, so no one has 
been  re-reporting complaints. If users were endlessly complaining we 
would  be  offering a litany of what wasn't fixed with each new beta, 
and you'd see what 'endless complaints' would be like.

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-07 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Sunday, June 7, 2009, 1:11:45 PM, Raymund Tump wrote:

>> What is it exactly that is required in IMAP?

in  vista,  the  only  way  for message counts to be accurate, or for 
messages  which may have been read at another venue to not be treated 
as  unread,  is  to close and re open the program. I have some outbox 
problems where messages either get trapped there, and never go out, or 
where messages get sent, but still appear in the outbox. Those are the 
most  aggravating.  The message counting and keeping track of what is 
read are really pretty serious flaws. 

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-07 Thread Raymund Tump
Hi Ethan,

> What is bugged in this version?

Same bugs as in the last version as for IMAP at least.

> What is it exactly that is required in IMAP?

I deleted my IMAP account three times over the last week to get it usable 
again. For some reason the message queue stalled. This was persistent even with 
a newly created account. Seems that the queue is saved somewhere...

When it finally started to work again (no idea why it did) it updated several 
folders without showing any activity in the connection manager. Not really 
something I call helpful.

And: I think someone with knowledge about that posted that 4.2 will be the 
version with IMAP working. Obviously that was marketing.

The only reason that I'm still with The Bat! is that I really like the MicroEd. 
But with my major account not working from time to time this advantage gets 
smaller and smaller.

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-07 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Ethan,
  A reminder of what Ethan J Mings typed on:
  Sunday, June 07, 2009 at 09:39:39 GMT -0400

EJM> What is it exactly that is required in IMAP?  I keep hearing, reading and
EJM> observing endless "complaints".  If its a complaint, so be it.  If its
EJM> a real IMAP bug, report in bug track.

IMAP has numerous problems and many, such as message counters not showing 
correct 
number of messages, poor refreshing of accounts, and message queues stalling 
are 
well documented in bugtraq. However we have been told that once this new 
version 
was out that Ritlabs would be concentrating on IMAP problems. I had ceased 
filing bug reports for IMAP until this new work is started as it was understood 
that no work would be done on IMAP bugs until the major work on IMAP begins.

I know it is annoying to see these comments constantly, but some of us are more 
patient than others and we have been waiting on improved IMAP for a long time.

On the bright side the new version is out and IMAP fixes should be right around 
the corner. :-)

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-07 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi,


EJM> What is it exactly that is required in IMAP?  

Reliability? Usability? 


EJM> If its a complaint, so be it. If its a real IMAP bug, report in
EJM> bug track.

Thank you. When did you last browse the bugtracker? It is full of IMAP
bug reports, some of which have been - mostly without success - worked
on, most of which have not. They date back for years. Most of the more
recent reports ("more recent" with IMAP means "not older than one or
two years") apparently haven't even been assigned.


EJM> IMAP works and it is functional.  It may not be what you want, yet, it
EJM> does work.

So does nuclear fusion. Pity is, nobody can use it yet.


EJM> I for one, just want to get on with testing and applying the product.

Suit yourself. Others, including me, would like to stop testing and
finally get some work done. TheBat/IMAP has been "Beta" (who's going
to be the first calling "Alpha"?) for over five years without any
substantial progress being made. Promises, occasionally. Date and
version estimates, sometimes. But progress you can lay your hand on -
never.

Me thinks you don't quite know what you're talking about.


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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-07 Thread Ethan J Mings
Hello Christian,

Sunday, June 7, 2009, 4:29:33 AM, you wrote:

> Congrats on not listening to your BETA List and bringing out another 
> bugged version.
> And once again a totally useless version for those using IMAP.

Ouch!

What is bugged in this version?

And,

What is it exactly that is required in IMAP?  I keep hearing, reading and
observing endless "complaints".  If its a complaint, so be it.  If its
a real IMAP bug, report in bug track.

IMAP works and it is functional.  It may not be what you want, yet, it
does work.

If it's not working for you, maybe there is another client  you should
try for consideration.

I grow weary of the "blind shots" that are not well documented simply
listed here in the forum. Your message, "... totally useless version
for using IMAP" is in accurate because it does work. Put the concern
in the bug track or give a link to the specific existing bug track
item.  Otherwise, enough of the generalizations and blind shots!

I for one, just want to get on with testing and applying the product.

Jerry

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-07 Thread Christian Grams

Maxim Masiutin schrieb:

Hello Tbbeta,

We didn't change the EXE file, just repacked the MSI with the new THEBAT.LNG:

www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-2.msi
www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_4-2.msi
www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_4-2.msi  
www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_4-2.msi



  
Congrats on not listening to your BETA List and bringing out another 
bugged version.

And once again a totally useless version for those using IMAP.

regards
Christian


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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread Mackley
I've tried to download the corrected .msi but I can not install it
over the old 4.2.1.1 installation...


By the way, I confirm the "Tip of the day" error.

If I go in Help / Tip of the day, I get the "Invalid image size" error dialog.
Then I click OK and I get an empty tip dialog with the option "Display
The Tip Of The Day at startup" checked (it wasn't first !).
If I clic "Next tip" or if I click "Previous tip", I get "Access
violation at address 009553ED in the module 'thebat.exe'. Read of
address ."

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Re: Invalid image size error (was: Re: The Bat! 4.2 release)

2009-06-06 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Marek,

Saturday, June 6, 2009, 5:13:25 PM, you wrote:

> Hello all,
> Sunday, June 7, 2009, Paul R. Zwiers wrote:

>> Following my previous message, this is the exception log. I pressed Next
>> tip and an exception occurred.

> confirm, opening Tips of the day causes Invalid image size error

> 

Confirmed.

The tip window opens up (blank) at that point.  When I click on "next 
tip" I get an access violation window but TB isn't "killed" and keeps running.

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread Paul R. Zwiers
Hallo Maxim,

zaterdag 6 juni 2009, 23:24:20, schreef u:

> Hello Tbbeta,

> We didn't change the EXE file, just repacked the MSI with the new THEBAT.LNG:

I installed the new TB on Vista English. When starting TB I get an error 
diaglog stating "Invalid Image Size" and after pressing OK I get an empty 
Tips-of-the-day dialog (no text).

Anything I can do to research and solve this? The rest seems to be working fine 
BTW.

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Invalid image size error (was: Re: The Bat! 4.2 release)

2009-06-06 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, June 7, 2009, Paul R. Zwiers wrote:

> Following my previous message, this is the exception log. I pressed Next
> tip and an exception occurred.

confirm, opening Tips of the day causes Invalid image size error


Date: 07 Jun 2009 01:11:51
OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600
PhysMemFreeTotal: 2047/2047 MB
VirtMemFreeTotal: 1779/2047 MB
Address: 0055BA1B
ClassName: EInvalidOperation
Message: Invalid image size
IsOSException: 0
Modules: 
 0040 20090604152653 K:\The Bat!\thebat.exe
Stack: 
 0055BA1B [0040]
 0055BA16 [0040]
 0055B8F8 [0040]
 00710088 [0040]
 00404BF0 [0040]
 004855F7 [0040]
 009551DA [0040]
 00544273 [0040]
 00543E32 [0040]
 00543E4E [0040]
 004C11CE [0040]
 004C1FD1 [0040]
 004C1282 [0040]
 004C8AA6 [0040]
 004CC1A0 [0040]
 00BFA9FB [0040]
 00567113 [0040]
 0056B38E [0040]
 00545829 [0040]
 0056A960 [0040]
 0046CA04 [0040]
 0054DB85 [0040]
 0054DBBE [0040]
 0054DE16 [0040]
 00C8517F [0040]
 00C894CF [0040]
 00C8F06C [0040]



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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread Paul R. Zwiers
Hallo Maxim,

Following my previous message, this is the exception log. I pressed Next tip 
and an exception occurred.

Hope it helps

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread Bob Riley
Hi MAU,

Saturday, June 6, 2009, 4:21:45 PM, you wrote:

>>
>> - at least Italian, Spanish and Dutch are working
>> - at least English, German, Polish are not working
>> - other languages not tested, yet

> I use English (never install any langpack) and it is working.

Mine installed fine in English, including checking the "Run TB" box at 
the end of the installation.

Under Help-About, it shows TB Home Edition, Version 4.2.1.1

I think it started very quickly, by the way.

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread MAU
Hello Maxim,

>>>- Install wizard says "4.2 (Release Candidate)" everywhere.
>
> Thank you, I will reupload the correct MSI.

It is OK now.

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Marek Mikus« · 2009-06-07 · 00:26 h (CET)]

Moin, Marek!

>> - at least Italian, Spanish and Dutch are working
>> - at least English, German, Polish are not working
>> - other languages not tested, yet

> I have teste English and Czech and both are working here in same way

I re-downloaded msi file and re-installed The Bat! (now without
Release Candidate text strings!) => Now it works again. I do not know,
what was wrong with my first try.

Thanks!

Cheers!
VA

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, June 7, 2009, Volker Ahrendt wrote:

> - at least Italian, Spanish and Dutch are working
> - at least English, German, Polish are not working
> - other languages not tested, yet

I have teste English and Czech and both are working here in same way

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread MAU
Hello Volker,

>>> - Tooltips in Statusbar of Message Editor are gone
>
>> Not here.
>
> I did some more investigation:
>
> - at least Italian, Spanish and Dutch are working
> - at least English, German, Polish are not working
> - other languages not tested, yet

I use English (never install any langpack) and it is working.

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »MAU« · 2009-06-06 · 23:56 h (CET)]

Moin, MAU!

>> - Tooltips in Statusbar of Message Editor are gone

> Not here.

I did some more investigation:

- at least Italian, Spanish and Dutch are working
- at least English, German, Polish are not working
- other languages not tested, yet

Cheers!
VA

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Maxim,

on Sunday, 7.
June 2009, at 23:24:47 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding "The Bat! 4.2
release":

> We didn't change the EXE file, just repacked the MSI with the new THEBAT.LNG:

Did i miss something or since when are 'Get messages for all' etc. in
the Tools menu?
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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread Richard Newman
Hello MAU,

Saturday, June 6, 2009, 5:47:12 PM, you wrote:
M> Installed fine. But...
M> - Install wizard says "4.2 (Release Candidate)" everywhere.
M> - Splash and About screens show versions 4.2.1.1
M> - Control Panel 'Add/Remove Programs' show: The Bat! Professional v4.2
M> (Release Candidate).
All confirmed.
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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread Mackley
> - Tooltips in Statusbar of Message Editor are gone

Not here

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread MAU
Hello Volker,

> - Tooltips in Statusbar of Message Editor are gone

Not here.

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2009-06-06 · 23:24 h (CET)]

Moin, Maxim!

> www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-2.msi

- Installer Dialogs still reads TB! 4.2 (Release Candidate).
- Tooltips in Statusbar of Message Editor are gone

Cheers!
VA

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread Mackley
Up and running here

I've not noted differences between the previous .msi version

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 release

2009-06-06 Thread MAU
Hello Maxim,

> We didn't change the EXE file, just repacked the MSI with the new THEBAT.LNG:
>
> www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-2.msi

Installed fine. But...

- Install wizard says "4.2 (Release Candidate)" everywhere.

- Splash and About screens show versions 4.2.1.1

- Control Panel 'Add/Remove Programs' show: The Bat! Professional v4.2 
(Release Candidate).

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 Release Candidate

2009-06-05 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Maxim,

Thursday, June 4, 2009, 6:48:09 PM, among other things, you wrote:

MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_home_4-2-rc1.msi
MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/intpack_4-2-rc1.msi  
Loaded and running with no problem.  Certainly does not seem slower.

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 Release Candidate

2009-06-05 Thread MAU
Hello Maxim,

> The Bat! 4.2 Release Candidate is available at
>
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_4-2-rc1.msi

Installed and running normally.

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 Release Candidate

2009-06-04 Thread Mackley
Installed here: OK

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 Release Candidate

2009-06-04 Thread Juraj Matel
Hello folks,

> The Bat! 4.2 Release Candidate is available at

Running.

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Re: The Bat! 4.2 Release Candidate

2009-06-04 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Thursday, June 4, 2009, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

> Hello Tbbeta,

> The Bat! 4.2 Release Candidate is available at

> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_4-2-rc1.msi

installed OK here

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Re: [U&R] Re: The Bat! 4.2 Release Candidate

2009-06-04 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Volker,

Thursday, June 4, 2009, 11:42:41 AM, you wrote:

>>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_4-2-rc1.msi

>>> There is nothing new since 4.1.14.4 (RC4), it's just an MSI package.

> Flawless installation here …

Ditto! Although like Richard Newman wrote, the startup may (MAY - I
didn't use or own a stopwatch) be a bit slower.
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Re: The Bat! 4.2 Release Candidate

2009-06-04 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Maxim,

Thursday, June 4, 2009, 12:48:09 PM, you wrote:
MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_4-2-rc1.msi
  Installed  over  existing.  Up & running just fine. Seems to
load slower.
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Re: [U&R] Re: The Bat! 4.2 Release Candidate

2009-06-04 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Sean Rima« · 2009-06-04 · 18:54 h (CET)]

>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_4-2-rc1.msi

>> There is nothing new since 4.1.14.4 (RC4), it's just an MSI package.

Flawless installation here …

Cheers!
VA

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[U&R] Re: The Bat! 4.2 Release Candidate

2009-06-04 Thread Sean Rima
Hello Maxim,

Thursday, June 4, 2009, 5:48:09 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Tbbeta,

> The Bat! 4.2 Release Candidate is available at

> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_4-2-rc1.msi
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_home_4-2-rc1.msi
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/intpack_4-2-rc1.msi
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_rus_4-2-rc1.msi

> There is nothing new since 4.1.14.4 (RC4), it's just an MSI package.




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