Re: [SOT] Ignore thread. Please support this wish.

2008-01-11 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello MAU,

M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1542

We'll see whether we will have some time for implementing this before
the 4.0 release. We still have many things to do for the
release...

Specifically, this one may require changing the message index format
whisch is scheduled for a post 4.0 version.


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Re: [SOT] Ignore thread. Please support this wish.

2008-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:33:27 +0100 GMT (11/01/2008, 16:33 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

M I am strolling into retirement

I am ignoring this thread but not your hint at retirement!
Congratulations.

Does that mean you will now collect all the beers people owe you?

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Re: [SOT] Ignore thread. Please support this wish.

2008-01-11 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

M I can wait till summer, when cold beer is even more enjoyable ;)

 Stand by while I book my ticket to Madrid! ;-)

You can send the beers by DHL, it'd be cheaper for you ;-)

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Re: [SOT] Ignore thread. Please support this wish.

2008-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:58:45 +0100 GMT (11/01/2008, 19:58 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

 I am ignoring this thread but not your hint at retirement!
 Congratulations.

M Thank you :)

You're welcome. In fact, I assume you've earned it.

 Does that mean you will now collect all the beers people owe you?

M I can wait till summer, when cold beer is even more enjoyable ;)

Stand by while I book my ticket to Madrid! ;-)

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Re: [SOT] Ignore thread. Please support this wish.

2008-01-11 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

M I am strolling into retirement

 I am ignoring this thread but not your hint at retirement!
 Congratulations.

Thank you :)

 Does that mean you will now collect all the beers people owe you?

I can wait till summer, when cold beer is even more enjoyable ;)

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Re: [SOT] Ignore thread. Please support this wish.

2008-01-11 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan,

  https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1542

 We'll see whether we will have some time for implementing this before
 the 4.0 release. We still have many things to do for the
 release...

 Specifically, this one may require changing the message index format
 whisch is scheduled for a post 4.0 version.

First of all, thank you for considering the possibility of implementing
this now.

Of course, I don't know the details of TB's code so I don't know what it
would exactly take to implement this function. But, since I have been
using this functionality (taking advantage of Watch Folders) for some
time, I think it should not be too difficult.

I will explain how I do it so you can consider my suggestion on how to
implement it.

First of all, see attached PNG.

The first thing I did to start my system was to create the *Ignore*
watch folder (Specials/Watch Replies in/New Watch Replies folder) from
the main menu or message list context. Since it actually is a 'watch
folder', in my case I selected to watch the two newsgroups that appear
in the PNG plus some other mailing lists not shown.

Now, when I am browsing a mailing list or newsgroup, if I want to Ignore
a thread, I right click on the first message of the thread and on the
context menu I select 'Specials/Watch Replies in/...Ignore'. This will
increment the unread count of the Ignore folder by the number of
messages in the ignored thread.

Once I have ignored one or more threads, I select the Ignore folder in
the folder tree and 'Mark all messages as read (Ctrl+M)'.

The next time I receive messages in these newsgroups or mailing lists,
those messages that are replies to one of the ignored threads will show
as Unread the the Ignore folder. I can then go to it and Ctrl+M before
going to each of the mailing list/newsgroups folder to browse and read
new messages.

It works very well. The only thing is that it takes more clicks than
would be desired. That is why I think perhaps an easy way to implement
it could be that:

- TB creates an Ignore watch folder by default. The user can then select
on its Properties which folders to watch. I thought that this Ignore
folder could even be transparent (not seen) to the user, but no, I think
it should be visible so you can go to it if you want to 'un-ignore' (just
like now you can stop 'watching') a thread.

- Include a top level 'Ignore Thread' menu entry that would do what I
now do with 'Specials/Watch Replies in/...Ignore' and at the same time mark
the thread as Read. It could also include assigning these message to a
default Ignored colour group.

Just an idea which, as I have written many times, I think should not be
too difficult to implement because you already have whatever code it
takes to set-up and manage 'watch folders'. And I may be wrong but I
don't think this implementation would require changing message index
format.

If you have read up to here, thanks for listening :)

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Re: [SOT] Ignore thread. Please support this wish.

2008-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:16:52 +0100 GMT (11/01/2008, 20:16 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

M You can send the beers by DHL, it'd be cheaper for you ;-)

But much less fun!

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Re: [SOT] Ignore thread. Please support this wish.

2008-01-11 Thread MAU
Hello MAU,

 The only thing is that it takes more clicks than would be desired.

I think I should explain why.

- Using Customiser I tried 'moving' (or duplicating) the Watch Replies
in menu item in a higher level menu but, I don't know why, it will not
work properly from the 'new location' or if duplicated.

- Also, if I want to assign all messages in a thread to an Ignored
colour group, which is useful when browsing the message list (see
attached PNG with ignored threads and messages assigned to a light grey
colour group), I have to first expand the thread, select al messages in
it and then assign to colour group.

This is why I suggest the single menu entry:

 - Include a top level 'Ignore Thread' menu entry that would do what I
 now do with 'Specials/Watch Replies in/...Ignore' and at the same time
 mark the thread as Read. It could also include assigning these message
 to a default Ignored colour group.



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