Re: 8859-15 / statement in German newsgroup

2002-01-13 Thread Alastair Scott

On 13 January 2002 at 19:13 Günther wrote:

> Hei,

> Carsten Thönges wrote:

>> BTW I hope the developers follow this thread, or does anyone want to
>> write a bug report...

> wrote a short one, pointing to this thread (#221).

I've written another one (222) about what is probably a closely
related problem (non-ISO-8859-1 characters being, it seems, wrongly
replaced by ISO-8859-1 ones in header lines). Complete with picture.

Best of British luck to Maxim, Stefan and team trying to fix these
character-set-related problems; they are difficult to _explain_, never
mind understand! 

Alastair


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Re: 8859-15 / statement in German newsgroup

2002-01-13 Thread Günther Eisele

Hei,

Carsten Thönges wrote:

> BTW I hope the developers follow this thread, or does anyone want to
> write a bug report...

wrote a short one, pointing to this thread (#221).

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Re: 8859-15 / statement in German newsgroup

2002-01-13 Thread Thomas F

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On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:17:41 +0100 GMT (13/01/02, 17:17 +0800 GMT),
Jernej Simonèiè wrote:

TF>> It looked fine in your msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TF>> where it was a hex 80, and I can write here: ¤ which is alt-128 on my

Oops, looks like a sun now...

TF>> I have no problem with the EUR symbol and the current implemenation of
TF>> TB and its XLAT tables.

JS> You don't, but the people you send mail to may have...

Obviously. But we are both using ISO-8859-1, aren't we?

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Re: 8859-15 / statement in German newsgroup

2002-01-13 Thread Andreas Wosgien

Hello Thomas,

13 Jan 2002, 10:14:27 am, you wrote:

> I can produce the euro sign by holding down the alt key and pressing
> 1-2-8 on the numpad. 128 decimal equals 80 hexadecimal on my
> calculator.
>
> Hex A4 is 164 in decimal, which is that funny sun in my conversion
> table. But then, I might be mixing up ASCII and ANSI again.

I am no expert on these topics, but I entered "ISO-8859-15" in Google and
found some documents (e.g. http://czyborra.com/charsets/iso8859.html)
stating that in ISO-8859-15 the Euro sign is located at position A4 (hex).

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Re: 8859-15 / statement in German newsgroup

2002-01-11 Thread Carsten Thönges

Hi Günther,

GE> | But when I type the EUR character in The Bat, then it's not sent with
GE> | coding a4, but with 80

I can confirm this.

GE> | This means that you can see 8859-15, but you can't send it. At least the
GE> | result on receiver's side is dependent on how exactly it follows the
GE> | 8859-15. On Windows machines that use the same codepage which is common in
GE> | Germany, this should be no problem. On different operating systems or in
GE> | different countries it could be a mess.

GE> Can someone here confirm what he writes?

I can.

My steps to reproduce (2 ways):

I  - I created mail with Latin-9 encoding (and EUR-Symbols in it).
   - Sent it to my local smtp server (hamster).
   - Opened the message from the Mail.out directory with a hex-editor:
   EUR-Symbols were displayed as 0x80.
   - Changed one 0x80 to 0xa4 and reimported the message to TB!:
   both (80 and a4) were displayed as an EUR-Symbol.

   ---> So: viewing is okay, sending isn't.

II - Account properties: [x] Send 8bit as QP.
   - Create message with Latin-9 and some EUR-Symbols.
   - View message's source: EUR-Symbol is displayed as "=80".

I'm no expert in Latin-9 stuff, but _if_ this is a bug, then it is a
very serious one.

GE> How could possible solutions look like?
 
Wait for a bugfix from Ritlabs. Don't use Latin-9 :-(

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Re: 8859-15 / statement in German newsgroup

2002-01-11 Thread Jernej Simonèiè

Hello Günther,

11. januar 2002, 19:27:52, you wrote:

GE> Can someone here confirm what he writes? How could possible solutions look
GE> like?

I think I can confirm this - just look at this €uro in Source view .

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