Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-04-07 Thread Eugene Gladchenko
Maxim,

MM> You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later.
MM> Go to S/MIME Preferences (Options|S/MIME) window and check "Use
MM> timestamping server for digital signatures", http://time.certum.pl/
MM> as a server.

How can I set up a HTTP proxy? I don't have a direct Internet HTTP
connection so everything I can see in the Account Log is the following line:

> 08.04.2008, 09:45:59: HTTP - Host address resolving error: The
> requested name is valid and was found in the database, but it does not
> have the correct associated data being resolved for for
> http://timestamp.verisign.com/scripts/timstamp.dll

p.s. One "for" is superfluous in the "for for".

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-29 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Maxim,

on  Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:40 +0200GMT (26.03.2008, 10:51 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM>   You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later.

Doesn't work with 4.0.20.

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-28 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Thomas,

on  Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:18:08 +0700GMT (28.03.2008, 19:18 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

TF> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:57:32 +0100 GMT (29/03/2008, 00:57 +0700 GMT),
TF> Peter Meyns wrote:

MM>>>   You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or 
later.

PM>> 4.0.18.7: It still connects to the time server but the result is not
PM>> displayed in the signature.

TF> No? I venture that you signed your message at 00:57:33 hrs.

The result of the "signed timestamp" should be that the timestamp
shouldn't only be set, but, well, signed. As it is in Maxim's initial
message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter,

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:57:32 +0100 GMT (29/03/2008, 00:57 +0700 GMT),
Peter Meyns wrote:

MM>>   You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later.

PM> 4.0.18.7: It still connects to the time server but the result is not
PM> displayed in the signature.

No? I venture that you signed your message at 00:57:33 hrs.

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-28 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Maxim,

on  Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:40 +0200GMT (26.03.2008, 10:51 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM>   You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later.

4.0.18.7: It still connects to the time server but the result is not
displayed in the signature.

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-27 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Maxim,

on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:40 +0200GMT (26.03.2008, 10:51 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM>   You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later.

I'll try it now on Win2K.

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Maxim,

on  Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:25:27 +0200GMT (26.03.2008, 23:25 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 6:55:57 PM, you wrote:

>> I see the verification of the sig, but not the verification of the
>> time as in Maxim's message. I'll try it again.
MM> Probably, The Bat! cannot connect to the timestamp server, and the
MM> error is not reported to the user. Could you please check the account
MM> log file? In a new version of The Bat! we will make connection errors
MM> reported to the user explicitly.

In the log it reads "received"...

,- [ account log ]
| >26.03.2008, 17:40:30: HTTP - Received http://time.certum.pl/
|  26.03.2008, 17:40:49: SEND  - sending mail message(s) - 1 message(s) in queue
|  26.03.2008, 17:40:49: SEND  - connected to SMTP server
|  26.03.2008, 17:40:49: SEND  - authenticating (plain)...
|  26.03.2008, 17:40:49: SEND  - sending message to tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com
| <26.03.2008, 17:40:56: SEND  - message to tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com sent 
(4201 bytes)
|  26.03.2008, 17:40:56: SEND  - connection finished - 1 message(s) sent
`-

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Wednesday, March 26, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

>   You can find out more about timestamps at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_timestamping

>   Currently, only the internal implementation of S/MIME supports
> timestamping. Go to S/MIME Preferences (Options|S/MIME) window and check
> "Use timestamping server for digital signatures",
> http://time.certum.pl/ as a server.

can You please add button like "Check" which will connect to entered host
and confirm this connection was established correctly? There can be
mistake in path or HTTP connection can be blocked by firewall and there is
no indication, this is working...

and maybe there could be some indication about checked timestamp in
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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp - Voyager

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi,

on  Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:54:07 +0100GMT I wrote:

PM> on  Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:40 +0200GMT (26.03.2008, 10:51 +0100GMT here),
PM> you wrote:

MM>>   You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later.

PM> As the option is there in Voyager 4.0.18.4, I'll also try it here.
PM> After all, I updated all my certs now, so I use them. :)

I didn't expect it to work. It is 4.0.18.4 after all. But I'm happy
to see that Voyager still works well with S/MIME. The verified
timestamp isn't that important, especially not for my use of Voyager.

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp - Voyager

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Maxim,

on  Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:40 +0200GMT (26.03.2008, 10:51 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM>   You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later.

As the option is there in Voyager 4.0.18.4, I'll also try it here.
After all, I updated all my certs now, so I use them. :)

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Thomas,

on  Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:28:16 +0700GMT (26.03.2008, 18:28 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

TF>>> I see you signed this at 23:56 - a minute after you posted the
TF>>> message.

PM>> That was about the time I was connected to he time server, before the
PM>> message was actually signed and sent. In your statement you must
PM>> replace "posted" with "created", then it's ok.

TF> So, WAD. Do you agree?

Yes. But still I don't see a verified timestamp like the one I see
when I verify Maxim's initial message.

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter,

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:25:15 +0100 GMT (27/03/2008, 00:25 +0700 GMT),
Peter Meyns wrote:

PM>>> I see the verification of the sig, but not the verification of the
PM>>> time as in Maxim's message. I'll try it again.

TF>> I see you signed this at 23:56 - a minute after you posted the
TF>> message.

PM> That was about the time I was connected to he time server, before the
PM> message was actually signed and sent. In your statement you must
PM> replace "posted" with "created", then it's ok.

So, WAD. Do you agree?

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Thomas,

on  Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:10:28 +0700GMT (26.03.2008, 18:10 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

TF> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:55:57 +0100 GMT (26/03/2008, 23:55 +0700 GMT),
TF> Peter Meyns wrote:

PM>> I see the verification of the sig, but not the verification of the
PM>> time as in Maxim's message. I'll try it again.

TF> I see you signed this at 23:56 - a minute after you posted the
TF> message.

That was about the time I was connected to he time server, before the
message was actually signed and sent. In your statement you must
replace "posted" with "created", then it's ok.

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter,

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:55:57 +0100 GMT (26/03/2008, 23:55 +0700 GMT),
Peter Meyns wrote:

PM> I see the verification of the sig, but not the verification of the
PM> time as in Maxim's message. I'll try it again.

I see you signed this at 23:56 - a minute after you posted the
message.

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi,

on  Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:05:32 +0100GMT I wrote:

PM> on  Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:42:22 -0400GMT (26.03.2008, 17:42 +0100GMT here),
PM> you wrote:

MM   You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or 
later.
>>> Well, let's see.

V>> Working.

PM> Yes, but only for the signature. Maybe it is because I didn't import
PM> the Certum certificate first. I did now. Let's see.

hmm No. There must be more to it. I hope Max will enlighten me.

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Vili,

on  Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:42:22 -0400GMT (26.03.2008, 17:42 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM>>>   You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or 
later.
>> Well, let's see.

V> Working.

Yes, but only for the signature. Maybe it is because I didn't import
the Certum certificate first. I did now. Let's see.

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Peter,

on  Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:39:58 +0100GMT I wrote:

PM> on  Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:40 +0200GMT (26.03.2008, 10:51 +0100GMT here),
PM> you wrote:

MM>>   You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later.

PM> Well, let's see.

I see the verification of the sig, but not the verification of the
time as in Maxim's message. I'll try it again.

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Peter,

on  Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:39:58 +0100GMT I wrote:

PM> on  Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:40 +0200GMT (26.03.2008, 10:51 +0100GMT here),
PM> you wrote:

MM>>   You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later.

PM> Well, let's see.

I saw a window that a time stamp were being created, but where do I
see the verification in the message?

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Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Maxim,

on  Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:40 +0200GMT (26.03.2008, 10:51 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM>   You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later.

Well, let's see.

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