Re[3]: HTML still needs some work
Saturday, April 19, 2008, 7:20:00 AM, you wrote: It seems a shame to dumb down a computer user to the level of a TV watcher. When that happens we'll all be in _big_ trouble! As another computer professional, I understand the feeling. However, it has already happened and will continue to happen. There's nothing you can do about it. -- The road goes on forever and the party never ends. REK, Jr. Dan Lester, Boise, ID Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: HTML Rendering is incorrect
Het was woensdag 16 januari 2008 om 15:25 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'HTML Rendering is incorrect' : Hallo Stuart, My screenshot is from 4.0.0.11 too. If I go to the folder where the message is located I still see the strange layout. SC Is it possible you have disallowed some of the links in the URL SC manager? shouldn't that manager be accessible through right-clicking the html-tab? Another thing, actually _where_ can I find the url-manager? -- Groeten, Cees :snowrub: If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you. __ The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3, v.3244 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03
3/8/2007 4:45 PM Hi Vili, On 3/8/2007 Vili wrote: V This is how it should be done. A real cutie! -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.95.06 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03
Hello Paul, The US Dept. of Defense has banned HTML and Microsoft email clients and for good reason. Where is news about it? DoE should do the same :)) Our secretaries send ENORMOUS files just to say: Ok. It's like a tournament for them in the Who can waste the most bandwidth category. Don't you even suggest that we turn TB into the same crap. Being in business is _no_ excuse for adulterating TB! If you want to jump in the lake and drown, do it. Don't take anyone else with you. History proves 80% of the people are wrong 80% of the time. I want to remain with the 20%. : That was a very harsh comment, you must have listened the Michael Savage show :)) I am on both sides of this discussion and by selling TB! also I can see customer wishes. What you talk about would be viable IF Ritlabs would be a nonprofit agency. Then they could go for the best for the mankind email client. Unfortunately, they have to feed their family, too. As us. They just have to go with the flow sometimes. See the HTML editor. Nobody can prove me why HTML mail MUST be used in business. There is just no reason for it. Any formatted data can be send as attach. But people are being brainwashed everyday, children coming out of US schools with lots of medals and cups (getting those for e.g. standing in a straight line before lunch... I am serious), not hearing anything else, but only good job, fantastic work, marvellous behavior etc. even the laziest, most stupid children. They will be adults. So, this is your market. What can you sell them? Email client that is easy to use, no need to think, everything is taken care of. Reading manuals, help??? Come on... I dont think, that TB! would turn into trash if it would support external HTML editors. You would not use it, I would not use it. But I dont use IMAP neither. (PS: I described the US market as this is the biggest, most influencing one for any product... As I am from Hungary, and hope that US people dont think, it is an offense. Those are my observations. In Hungary, we have more and more similar problems now that US has... Stupid ministers, lying prime minister, etc. But at least -so far- we are realistic in education.) P2.: Paul, you helped me not once over the years, last time just recently. I hope, you neither will take this mail as offense, or something. It is just like a scientific conversation for me, where we even cut each other throats over scientific facts/observations, but when it is over, we are buddies and go drink a beer. I think, that is called profession. If I would keep my mouth shut because I respect you, but have different opinion, that would be called prostitution. -- Vili Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: HTML and The Bat
Hello Vili, Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 12:40:28 PM, you wrote: Maybe, I am just an outsider, but should not have some standards for HTML? I think there are plenty of standards. (Likely too many) I also think that Ritlabs is looking into it. 9Val asked for examples the other day and I have now submitted two examples of where HTML differs from TB to other viewers. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.09 Qigong (Beta) On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current beta is 3.70.09 'Qigong' | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: html whitelist wish
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PVN Agreed. Gee-whiz functionality at the expense of privacy and PVN security is too high of a price for me to pay. I do object to PVN others taking risks if doing so has an impact on others. PVN Irresponsibility begins as soon we allow our actions to PVN negatively affect someone else. If it's something you can switch on or off then you're in no more danger than being alive. I'm sure you manage to get a better justification! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias WordPerfect and MegaMail, what a pair!! Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: html whitelist wish
Hello Goncalo, Sunday, February 27, 2005, 10:51:37 AM, you wrote: In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I disagree. It's vulnerable because MS was unable to anticipate the misuse of the technology they were providing. Now they made it more secure (not perfectly secure) without cutting down the functionality that people had. snipped Power comes at a cost. It's not acceptable to have limits because some people just don't know any better. The car makers don't put speed limits in their cars because they might be bought by some lame driver that may kill himself. LG Now granted. IE made their primary mistake because everything was LG on by default. But my point is that Microsoft gave the users LG what they wanted without ever trying to tell them why it was LG risky. The internet used to be a wonderful place, now you have to LG check, double-check and triple check just about everything you do. LG Popups were a great idea at first. A nice way to display LG information without disrupting the flow of the visitors browsing LG of their main site. Now we have a whole box of bandaids to prevent LG popups. MS didn't realize how their technology could be misused... snipped Firstly, speed limits in cars is a weak argument. People know their cars can go faster, they don't often know where security exploits are in any operating system. And, your retort about Microsoft not knowing how their technology could be misused is also fairly weak. When MS tied the browser to the operating system (Windows), it was a reaction to their marketing goals of tying the personal computer to the web--strictly networking. The reasons why their technology can be misused is that the OS and IE are joined to such a degree that MS, in a court deposition, said they couldn't be separated without losing the OS integrity. This, then is the rub. But then you could say if the browsers gain popularity, then they too will be exploited. Yes, if they do it's because of the holes in the OS... poor coding to rush a product to market. That Bill came out a year or so back and said he is making security a priority begs the question, why now? --why not years ago? And to bring this back to on-topic... designing a HTML interface to TB! means making certain the doors between the client and os are locked securely and then give the key to the user. Dennis -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Dennis Hays / HaysDesign http://www.haysdesign.com Sent on Sunday, February 27, 2005 at 11:26 AM USA Eastern -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. ICQ: 200045507 / AIM: edennishays yahoo: dennishays / Jabber: dennishays Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: html whitelist wish
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PVN On 2/25/2005 Dennis Hays wrote: DH What we all have in common, on this list, are the reasons we DH originally came to TB! And, from a marketing point of view, these DH have to be respected. I don't think most of us looked at this DH product because of its fine HTML viewer. PVN 2/25/2005 2:27 PM PVN Hi Dennis, PVN How true! Because of that it's just fine to keep the lame html support. Is that it? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias The plural of half is whole Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: html whitelist wish
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PVN On 2/25/2005 David Calvarese wrote: DC We just want the option to be able to click a button and have it DC display them if we want it too. And possibly being able to tag an DC address in the address book to 'Display Remote Images' or even DC 'Trust HTML email from people in your address book', though both DC of those have dangers to them. PVN 2/25/2005 4:16 PM PVN Hi David, PVN You already have the button to click...it's called an icon that PVN shows on the left side of the message display. It doesn't work very well when you need to reply to the message. Where is the moderator now? PVN -- PVN Take Care, PVN Paul PVN The Bat! v.3.0.2.10 on Win2k SP4 PVN PVN Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: PVN http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html PVN IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - PVN http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/ -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Why think when Rush Limbaugh wants to do it for you? Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: html whitelist wish
On 2/26/2005 NetVicious wrote: The problem here it's this: N Spammer A sends a spam-mail to you with the from email as N [EMAIL PROTECTED] In your TB! you have this address in the N whitelist of downloading images. N The mail has a transparent image from a php file with a serial number N linked in a database with your mail. N Now the spammer knows you email account it's readed, and you hace N read the spam mail. N The perfect option will be a button or something to load the images of N the current mail. And this should be made manually every time. 2/26/2005 11:12 AM Hi NetVicious, YES, YES.., YES..., Y E S !! ¡muy BUENO! -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.0.2.10 on Win2k SP4 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: html whitelist wish
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PVN Hi David, PVN I have never been challenged to reply to an HTML message. What is the PVN problem? Then you should try it first and argue with us after it! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias . This tagline is SHAREWARE! To register, send me $10 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: html whitelist wish
Hello NetVicious, Sunday, February 27, 2005, 12:07:09 AM, you wrote: N The problem here it's this: N Spammer A sends a spam-mail to you with the from email as N [EMAIL PROTECTED] In your TB! you have this address in the N whitelist of downloading images. N The mail has a transparent image from a php file with a serial number N linked in a database with your mail. N Now the spammer knows you email account it's readed, and you hace N read the spam mail. I don't think this is a real problem. TB can use a url whitelist to accept the image coming from trusted website and refuse others. -- Best regards, Ming Changmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Translator of Chinese The Bat! Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 Windows 2000 Advanced Server (v5.0.2195, Service Pack 4) Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: html whitelist wish
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : RP HTML I only use very rarely for special circumstances. As it is RP installed now it is adequate for everything except graphics and as RP others have pointed out there is a very simple work around for RP viewing them. Putting this capability into TB should IMHO be well RP down the list of priorities. That's not true. I have all sort of problems with HTML messages created with MS Outlook that make the use of TB! a big problem and wastes me a lot of time. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias It's Kinda Like A Symbiosis, But More Expensive... Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: html whitelist wish
Friday, February 25, 2005, 4:41:07 AM, you wrote: Amen! Very well put and expresses my opinion exactly! If formatting is necessary, create a PDF and send as an attachment. I work with people all around the world and TB is a primary tool to maintain their ability to exist in their conditions without harassment or threat to their lives. Please Maxim do not corrupt TB with the same junk as Outlook/OE and the wannabes like Thunderbird. I too hope that The Bat will continue to stay true to its original principles and design. I must confess, however, I'm worried. I am waiting for the latest release of the new beta to really understand where the changes in development, reduction in bugs and stability of the product are going. I realize a deep alpha was released earlier this week. However, I want to wait until the BETA comes out to better understand the changes. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Principal, The Desk Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: html
On Wednesday, August 29, 2001, 1:43:06 PM, -=/ Cees /=- wrote: DH Go to Options/Preferences/General and disable Show HTML DH automatically. Great! I never noticed that option... that really does a neat trick! DH Then go to Options/Preferences/Viewer and choose the DH PTV as standard viewer. This of course I already knew. I like the rich text viewer, without the HTML messages. I have it set so that the message displays in comic sans, and the quotes in arial, and find it much easier on the eyes than the PTV fixed width fonts. Right now, I have HTML showing automatically since it seems to be part of the drill for beta testing, but I often have to switch away from the HTML to read the messages, because of long lines all the way across the screen. I know for me reading the rich text viewer is easier, because of the contrast with the fixed width I'm looking at while composing messages. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
