Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[NetVicious]

Hi!

This morning I opened TB! and I got this AV

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The Bat!
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Access violation at address 00764FF2 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
.
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Aceptar   
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It  seems  I  opened  TB  and  I clicked very fast on a message in the
message  list  or in the message list header *before* TB! finished the
update of the message count of the folders.


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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Marek,

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 you wrote in 

MM> and new Microed will be not announced?

SoonIhopebecausethespacebardoesn'twork!:-(

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Volker Ahrendt]

·---·-Date---·
| Q&A  [1] | 2008-01-22 |
·---··
[Reply to: »Uwe Steinfeld« · 2008-01-21 · 23:39 h (CET)]

Hello, Uwe!

>> I noticed that links show up with a much smaller font even though I
>> have not changed anything.

> Confirmed -- but only in MicroEd.

Fixed in 4.0.0.14.

Cheers!
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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Volker Ahrendt]

·---·-Date---·
| Q&A  [1] | 2008-01-22 |
·---··
[Reply to: »Volker Ahrendt« · 2008-01-22 · 17:26 h (CET)]

>> (And I just noticed a peculiarity with MicroEd: when you paste
>> something, the pasted text stays selected, so you have to press an
>> arrow key first before you can resume typing (if you don't want to
>> loose the thing you pasted).

> Confirmed!

Fixed in 4.0.0.14.

Cheers!
VA

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Re[2]: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Valerye Bostan]

Hello, Zygmunt!

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, at 19:01:43 [GMT +0100] (which was 20:01 where I
live) you wrote:

> [+] some hints may have "Press F1 ..." addition.



ZW> Yes, I know it, but please don't give too many decorations in the
ZW> window elements. I translate TB! interface myself and have added some
ZW> hints after discussion with the users. Pressing F1 to obtain the
ZW> context help is known operation as well, so reminding this possibility
ZW> by "Press F1..." hint is rather unnecessary.

It's different (new) functionality!
The specific help topic will be given for item which has the Hint Window
active. This may happen if hinted control has it's own help context id.

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Volker Ahrendt]

·---·-Date---·
| Q&A <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1] | 2008-01-22 |
·---··
[Reply to: »Jernej Simončič« · 2008-01-22 · 10:39 h (CET)]

Hello, Jernej!

> (And I just noticed a peculiarity with MicroEd: when you paste
> something, the pasted text stays selected, so you have to press an
> arrow key first before you can resume typing (if you don't want to
> loose the thing you pasted).

Confirmed!

Cheers!
VA

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, at 10:41:35 [GMT +0100] (which was 10:41 where I
live) Jernej Simoncic wrote:

>> Confirmed, though it looks nice ;-)

> Not to me - at first I thought the editor was disabled (since disabled
> edit controls usually get this background color).

Apart from the confirmation I was not serious ;-)

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Re[2]: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Valerye Bostan]

Hello, Zygmunt!

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, at 23:45:36 [GMT +0100] (which was 0:45 where I
live) you wrote:

ZW> Additionally, Maxim announced this:

>>> [+] some hints may have "Press F1 ..." addition.

ZW> Fpr me, using strings from menu items as hint texts (as it is done in
ZW> editor status bar) is unnecessary. The translator should have free
ZW> choice to insert hints on window elements.

Agreed, for the Status Bar it really does nothing, it's only a design demo
for all hints related to controls having meaningful HelpContext.
So in the future such hints will define temporary F1-Key context
change (while hint window is active). Pressing F1 will give you a help
page related to the hint parent control.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Peter,

Tuesday, January 22, 2008, 9:27:39, you wrote:

>>The same thing. Fail on the first try directly after starting TB, success on
>>all following mail retrievals.
Thank you, the host name didn't matter, we have found and fixed this problem.

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Jernej Simončič]

On Tuesday, January 22, 2008, 1:27:01, Henk M. de Bruijn wrote:

> Confirmed, though it looks nice ;-)

Not to me - at first I thought the editor was disabled (since disabled
edit controls usually get this background color).

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Jernej Simončič]

On Tuesday, January 22, 2008, 0:32:11, Peter Gannushkin wrote:

> Also, the status line doesn't handle any mouse clicks anymore.
> Actually, the same is true to the main window.

Not to mention that the status line (and a few other GUI elements)
still clash badly with my colour scheme.

(And I just noticed a peculiarity with MicroEd: when you paste
something, the pasted text stays selected, so you have to press an
arrow key first before you can resume typing (if you don't want to
loose the thing you pasted).

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Peter Gannushkin]

Hello Stefan,

PG>> I hoped that new MicroEd will handle spaces at the end of the
PG>> line correctly, but it didn't happen. Guess we'll still see a lot
PG>> of problems with signature delimiters.

ST> It actually does. Check the option "Preserve trailing spaces". Also,
ST> now it's possible to see where your signature starts right in the
ST> editor (if you didn't set it to the same colour/style as the default
ST> text, of course).

I did look at the options under MicroEd since it is MicroEd specific, but it 
was not there. So it is under general editor options and it works. What doesn't 
work is persistent selection / overwrite selection: regardless of the settings 
the text is always selected after it was inserted from the clipboard.

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Kertész Vilmos]

> [-] The memory occupied by viewed messages was not released
> properly. While wandering across messages, the memory
> consumption was raising, which might cause unpleasant results (like
> excessive disk swapping) when running The Bat!
> continuously during a few days.

Way to go :)

Ok, when can we get a Voyager version of it? :)

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[George Mitchell]

Marek Mikus wrote:

MM> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

With the new MicroEd, if I have Auto-Format enabled space characters
between words are ignored.

Likethis,forexample.

And with Auto-Format off and Auto-Wrap on, the wrapping gets really 
weird if I go back and insert text in a paragraph.  It'll start 
wrapping individual words onto separate lines.

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Re[2]: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Paul Van Noord]

1/21/2008  8:27 PM

Hi Henk,

On 1/21/2008 Henk M. de Bruijn wrote:

HMdB> Testing "Preserve trailing spaces"

Works.

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Rick Grunwald]

> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, at 02:09:06 [GMT +0200] (which was 1:09 where I
> live) Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

>> It actually does. Check the option "Preserve trailing spaces". Also,
>> now it's possible to see where your signature starts right in the
>> editor (if you didn't set it to the same colour/style as the default
>> text, of course).

> Testing "Preserve trailing spaces"

Your sig came through correctly


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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, at 02:09:06 [GMT +0200] (which was 1:09 where I
live) Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

> It actually does. Check the option "Preserve trailing spaces". Also,
> now it's possible to see where your signature starts right in the
> editor (if you didn't set it to the same colour/style as the default
> text, of course).

Testing "Preserve trailing spaces"

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stefan,

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:37:08 +0200 GMT (22/01/2008, 06:37 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

MM>> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

ST> Well, the special announcement will be made when we release the
ST> actual BETA :-)

ST> You see, there are some problems with fonts, spell checker cannot
ST> be activated...

Let me know about the fonts... there is no need for me to download .13
if it displays all mails in the font set in the RTV and I have no
access  to the PTV.

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Marek,

MM> do You plan to remove Windows editor?

In a post-4.0 version, yes. As soon as we make it possible to use
"soft" line breaks in MicroEd (not a big problem, but we just don't
want to go into it before the release) Windows Editor will be removed.

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, at 00:17:41 [GMT +0100] (which was 0:17 where I
live) Jernej Simoncic wrote:

> Background color of MicroEd is wrong in this version - it appears to
> use button (3D) background color instead of window background.

Confirmed, though it looks nice ;-)

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, January 22, 2008, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

> Hello Peter,

PG>> I hoped that new MicroEd will handle spaces at the end of the
PG>> line correctly, but it didn't happen. Guess we'll still see a lot
PG>> of problems with signature delimiters.

> It actually does. Check the option "Preserve trailing spaces". Also,
> now it's possible to see where your signature starts right in the
> editor (if you didn't set it to the same colour/style as the default
> text, of course).

do You plan to remove Windows editor?

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, at 23:44:03 [GMT +0200] (which was 22:44 where I
live) Maxim Masiutin wrote:

> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40013.rar

> What's new in 4.0.0.13 since 4.0.0.12:

...<*snipped*>

Up and running, sorry for stepping in so late. Backup works btw ;-)

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Peter,

PG> I hoped that new MicroEd will handle spaces at the end of the
PG> line correctly, but it didn't happen. Guess we'll still see a lot
PG> of problems with signature delimiters.

It actually does. Check the option "Preserve trailing spaces". Also,
now it's possible to see where your signature starts right in the
editor (if you didn't set it to the same colour/style as the default
text, of course).


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Re: Spellchecking do not work (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Peter Gannushkin]

Hello Marek,

>> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at
>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40013.rar

>> What's new in 4.0.0.13 since 4.0.0.12:

MM> there is no spellchecking even I select any language in context menu.

To be precise there is no spell checking in MicroEd. Windows editor works fine 
with CSAPI.

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, January 22, 2008, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

MM>> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

> Well, the special announcement will be made when we release the actual BETA
> :-)

great, but testers should know, new componnent is up already and something could
be broken

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, January 22, 2008, Peter Gannushkin wrote:

> Also, the status line doesn't handle any mouse clicks anymore. Actually,
> the same is true to the main window.

this is not fixed yet, I miss it too, mainly in editor now

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Peter Gannushkin]

Hello Marek,

>> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at
>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40013.rar

>> What's new in 4.0.0.13 since 4.0.0.12:

MM> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

I hoped that new MicroEd will handle spaces at the end of the line correctly, 
but it didn't happen. Guess we'll still see a lot of problems with signature 
delimiters.

Also, the status line doesn't handle any mouse clicks anymore. Actually, the 
same is true to the main window.

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Marek,

MM> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

Well, the special announcement will be made when we release the actual BETA
:-)

You see, there are some problems with fonts, spell checker cannot be
activated...

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Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Bob Riley]

Hi Miroslav,

Monday, January 21, 2008, 3:30:26 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Maxim,
>  
>> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at

> message preview » right click » use plain text viewer

> ---
> The Bat!
> ---
> List index out of bounds (0)
> ---
> OK   
> ---

I got the same thing.  Had to use ctr-alt-del to exit TB.  When it restarted, it
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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Jernej Simončič]

On Monday, January 21, 2008, 22:44:03, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40013.rar

Background color of MicroEd is wrong in this version - it appears to
use button (3D) background color instead of window background.

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Monday, January 21, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

>>>When hitting F2 on that account directly after that, it is able to connect:

> Do you have "Secure to regular port" or "Secure to dedicated port"? What
> is the host hame for this account? What happens if you only click to
> check mail for this account without checking other accounts?

no TLS here, because I am behind VPN:

allways first connect is no established, second and next are OK

 22.1.2008, 00:04:47: FETCH - receiving mail messages
!22.1.2008, 00:04:47: FETCH - Could not connect to the server

 22.1.2008, 00:05:41: FETCH - receiving mail messages
 22.1.2008, 00:05:41: FETCH - connected to POP3 server

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Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Marek,

Monday, January 21, 2008, 0:34:41, you wrote:

>>there is no spellchecking even I select any language in context menu.
That's right. Unfortunately, this ALPHA has no spellchecking yet.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Peter,

Monday, January 21, 2008, 0:16:31, you wrote:

>>This version gives me (on Alt+F2) this one almost every time:

>> 21.01.2008, 23:12:03: FETCH - receiving mail messages
>>!21.01.2008, 23:12:03: FETCH - Could not connect to the server

>>When hitting F2 on that account directly after that, it is able to connect:

Do you have "Secure to regular port" or "Secure to dedicated port"? What is the 
host hame for this account? What happens if you only click to check mail for 
this account without checking other accounts?


-- 
Best regards,
Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Marek,

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 you wrote in 

MM> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-

Soo I hope because it doesn't work well in .13 so I'm back with 12.

Use F4 to quote text in a reply and the space bar doesn't work. Also,
hitting enter at the end of a quote to start a new reply paragraph
doesn't work. It just continues on with quotes.

Both work fine if writing in a new message though.

-- 
Regards,
Richard

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Monday, January 21, 2008, Peter Hampf wrote:

MM>> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at

> with previous alphas I had the problem when getting mail for all accounts
> that TB generated the "Access violation at address 7C928FEA in module
> 'ntdll.dll'" for one account (almost the same one).

> This version gives me (on Alt+F2) this one almost every time:

>  21.01.2008, 23:12:03: FETCH - receiving mail messages
> !21.01.2008, 23:12:03: FETCH - Could not connect to the server


confirm, first connection can not be established, second and all next
connections are established correctly.

-- 

Bye

Marek Mikus
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Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
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2.7.1.5

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Marek,
  A reminder of what Marek Mikus typed on:
  Monday, January 21, 2008 at 23:26:05 GMT +0100

>> What's new in 4.0.0.13 since 4.0.0.12:

MM> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

I am looking, but I am not finding anything new.

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 Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Using The Bat! v4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)
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Re: Spellchecking do not work (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Miroslav Florensen]

Hello Marek,

> there is no spellchecking even I select any language in context menu.

confirmed

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Uwe Steinfeld]

Hello Ian,

On 2008-01-21 you wrote:

> I noticed that links show up with a much smaller font even though I
> have not changed anything.

Confirmed -- but only in MicroEd.


-- 
Regards,
Uwe

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Monday, January 21, 2008, Cees wrote:

> the previous versions :S
>   You mean options to left/right align, justify or center the text?
>   Or was this already there :blush

no, there is a new component in editor window, some features do not work now, 
but check preferences
for new options or check Find/Replace text dialogs.

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Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)
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2.7.1.5
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Re: Spellchecking do not work (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Marek,
  A reminder of what Marek Mikus typed on:
  Monday, January 21, 2008 at 23:34:41 GMT +0100

MM> Hello all,
MM> Monday, January 21, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

>> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at
>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40013.rar

>> What's new in 4.0.0.13 since 4.0.0.12:

MM> there is no spellchecking even I select any language in context menu.

Confirmed.

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 Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Using The Bat! v4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)
 On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600



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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Monday, January 21, 2008, Miroslav Florensen wrote:

>> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at

> message preview » right click » use plain text viewer

> ---
> The Bat!
> ---
> List index out of bounds (0)
> ---
> OK   
> ---

confirmed

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Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)
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Spellchecking do not work (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Monday, January 21, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40013.rar

> What's new in 4.0.0.13 since 4.0.0.12:

there is no spellchecking even I select any language in context menu.

-- 

Bye

Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 
2.7.1.5

Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM


 




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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Cees]

Het was maandag 21 januari 2008 om 23:26 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'MicroEd 
(Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))' :

Hallo Marek,

>> What's new in 4.0.0.13 since 4.0.0.12:
MM> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

  :bork:
  
  forgot to check with the previous versions :S
  You mean options to left/right align, justify or center the text?
  Or was this already there :blush:

-- 
Groeten,
  Cees
:snowrub:
If most car accidents occur within five miles of home, why doesn't everyone 
just move 10 miles away?
______________
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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Miroslav Florensen]

Hello Maxim,
 
> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at

message preview » right click » use plain text viewer

---
The Bat!
---
List index out of bounds (0)
---
OK   
---

-- 
Best regards
Miroslav
 
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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Rick Grunwald]

> A bit of a show stopper. I cannot send this message other than by
> closing the message editor where I am asked if I want to keep the
> autosaved message. Then I have to open the Outbox, turn off the draft
> setting and send from the account!

> Back to .12

Hmmm - I'm not getting that behavior at all

-- 
Rick
If all life is sacred ...
How can Republicans be pro life AND for capital punishment?

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MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Monday, January 21, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40013.rar

> What's new in 4.0.0.13 since 4.0.0.12:

and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

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Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
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Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Cees]

Het was maandag 21 januari 2008 om 23:00 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The 
Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)' :

Hallo Ian,

IAW> Installed OK.

 check!

IAW> A couple of things.

IAW> I noticed that links show up with a much smaller font even though I
IAW> have not changed anything.

 I cannot confirm that. Checked it after receiving your mail, but links are 
the same as they were before (this release).

IAW> The other is the alert advising this is an ALPHA version. I found the
IAW> question might be a little confronting for some.

 People should be aware this is still Alpha and not Beta. There IS a 
difference.

IAW> A bit of a show stopper. I cannot send this message other than by
IAW> closing the message editor where I am asked if I want to keep the
IAW> autosaved message. Then I have to open the Outbox, turn off the draft
IAW> setting and send from the account!

 you got me confused with that one. First message I wrote with this verion 
went like... always.

-- 
Groeten,
  Cees
:snowrub:
Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.
__________________
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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Cees]

Het was maandag 21 januari 2008 om 22:44 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The 
Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)' :

Hallo Maxim,

MM> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at
MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40013.rar

 got it! ;)
 Fires up fluently...
  
___\/___
  o/\o
  
MM> [+] some hints may have "Press F1 ..." addition.

 you got me curious

-- 
Groeten,
  Cees
:snowrub:
De wijze houdt zichzelf op de achtergrond, maar in werkelijkheid staat hij 
vooraan. -  Lao-Tse
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The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA)

[Maxim Masiutin]

The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40013.rar

What's new in 4.0.0.13 since 4.0.0.12:
[*] Adding support of Unicode file names to backup/restore. Please test whether 
backup/restore works as usual (BETA issue).
[+] Exception logging with full call stack added. You can find this 
comprehensive log at "%EMAIL%\thebat_Exceptions.log"
[-] (#235) Connection Center freezez/locks - open Connections don't get 
closed - The Bat! is unable to be shut down clearly 
[-] (#0006278) Connection hangs - Unsent messages lost! 
[-] (#0004512) Cannot stop connecting to server - "delete task" or "abort" is 
broken! 
[-] (#0003311) TB is trying to connect to non-existing server, task in CC can 
be deleted, but TB can't be closed 
[-] (#0003290) Number agreement error in Connection Centre 
[-] (#0002965) Prevent Windows to close session if inet connection is created 
[+] You can now export multiple selected certificates at once to a single 
directory, when using S/MIME internal implementation.
[-] (#0006276) Connection timeout in the account properties was ignored
[-] (#0003311) TB is trying to connect to non-existing server, task in CC can 
be deleted, but TB can't be closed 
[-] (#0006650) Untranslatable confirmation dialog title and buttons when 
replacing all words in editor 
[-] There were a socket leak in IMAP when using "Secure to regular port" 
connection
[-] When The Bat! was configured to not use "Dial-up networking connections" 
(i.e. to use LAN or manual connection), the RASAPI32.DLL was still loaded, 
which was unnecessary waste of resources and the time needed for The Bat! to 
exit.
[-] When there were a socket leak in The Bat!, it could take additionally 3 
seconds to exit The Bat!; no error was given about the leak.
[-] (#0006665) Dialog "View digital signature" not translatable 
[-] (#0006647) The text "You are about to use ALPHA version" it's 
untranslatable 
[-] (#0006612) Strings in URL Download Manager are untranslatable 
[-] The memory occupied by viewed messages was not released properly. While 
wandering across messages, the memory consumption was raising, which might 
cause unpleasant results (like excessive disk swapping) when running The Bat! 
continuously during a few days.
[+] some hints may have "Press F1 ..." addition.




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