Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-31 Thread MAU
Hello MAU,

 I thought about submitting a feature request to change the To column to
 show/display _only_ the To field, but I'd like to hear some comment from
 you first.

I finally submitted the wish if you'd care to support it.

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5275

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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-31 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:05:55 +0100 GMT (01/11/2005, 02:05 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

M I finally submitted the wish if you'd care to support it.

M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5275

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Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread MAU
Hello all,

I don't know if you all are fully aware of how the 'To' column in the
message list works. I was, but I tend to forget. It is not new to this
last release, AFAIK it has always been like that (at least it is so in
good old 3.02.10)

The 'To' column, if wide enough, displays the name/address(es) of the
To: field *plus* the name(s)/address(es) of the Cc: field if there are
any. This, adding the Cc names, is what I have come to the conclusion
that should not be that way, for three reasons:

A.- I doubt that most TB users are aware of it.

B.- I doubt that most users, if aware, will need and make the To column
wide enough to see more than one name/address or so.

C.- To me, this is the most important. It is misleading when using the
'Alt+click' filtering on the To column.

Let's see an example. Assume you have a folder that includes the
following three messages:

 1.- Message To: A
 2.- Message To: A and CC: B, C
 3.- Message To: A and CC: B, D

What happens when you Alt+click on To column of message 1? Right, only
message 1 is displayed. Same for messages 2 and 3, only 2 or 3 will be
displayed respectively.

And this is what was driving me nuts last night when I was Alt+clicking
in my Sent Mail folder to find some messages. I am quite sure that most
people would expect that, whether alt+clicking on 1, 2 or 3 in the
example, the three messages would be displayed. Specially if the To
column is not set wide enough to see that there is more than one
name/address displayed.

Don't you think this issue may be at least misleading and/or annoying?

I thought about submitting a feature request to change the To column to
show/display _only_ the To field, but I'd like to hear some comment from
you first.

TIA.

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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread Curtis

MAU wrote:


I thought about submitting a feature request to change the To column to
show/display _only_ the To field, but I'd like to hear some comment from
you first.


No comment other than that I agree with you entirely. :)

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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread MAU
Hello Curtis,

 No comment other than that I agree with you entirely. :)

Thanks mate. Now let's wait and see if there if there is anyone else
with us or fully against.

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Re[2]: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread Vili
 No comment other than that I agree with you entirely. :)
 Thanks mate. Now let's wait and see if there if there is anyone else
 with us or fully against.

:) I dont think anyone could find reasons to be against you... The
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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU,

On 27-10-2005 11:44, you [M] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
M I thought about submitting a feature request to change the To column
M to show/display _only_ the To field, but I'd like to hear some
M comment from you first.

The elegant solution (IMO) would be to quick search the contents based
on what is _visible_, i.e. if CC is shown, then it's the full string -
if just To is shown, then... you get the idea... :-)

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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili,

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:31:07 +0200 GMT (27/10/2005, 18:31 +0700 GMT),
Vili wrote:

 No comment other than that I agree with you entirely. :)
 Thanks mate. Now let's wait and see if there if there is anyone else
 with us or fully against.

V :) I dont think anyone could find reasons to be against you... The
V wish is logical.

If this wish is implemented, I will have one additional one: there
should be a CC and BCC column to chose from. Right now, when I
right-click on the column header, I can only choose that communal TO
column.

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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread MAU
Hello Vili,

 Message 4., TO: B

 When  you Alt+click on message 4, that should bring up messages 2,3,4.

Absolutely not, this is not what I am proposing. Alt+clicking on 4
should only bring up 4.

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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Thomas Fernandez wrote on 27/10/2005 at 22:36:25 +1100 
subject Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field? :

 Hello Vili,

 On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:31:07 +0200 GMT (27/10/2005, 18:31 +0700 GMT),
 Vili wrote:

 No comment other than that I agree with you entirely. :)
 Thanks mate. Now let's wait and see if there if there is anyone else
 with us or fully against.

V :) I dont think anyone could find reasons to be against you... The
V wish is logical.

 If this wish is implemented, I will have one additional one: there
 should be a CC and BCC column to chose from. Right now, when I
 right-click on the column header, I can only choose that communal TO
 column.

I agree with both the changed Alt+click behaviour and the additional
CC and BCC columns

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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread Stuart Hemming
I've only recently discovered alt-click, but for the reasons you state
regarding it, I agree.

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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello MAU,

 The 'To' column, if wide enough, displays the name/address(es) of the
 To: field *plus* the name(s)/address(es) of the Cc: field if there are
 any. This, adding the Cc names, is what I have come to the conclusion
 that should not be that way [...]

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Re[2]: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread Vili
Hello MAU,

 Message 4., TO: B
 When  you Alt+click on message 4, that should bring up messages 2,3,4.
 Absolutely not, this is not what I am proposing. Alt+clicking on 4
 should only bring up 4.

Ok. We then need Ctrl+Alt+click to bring up messages 2,3,4. Sometimes
you would like to see all mails that you send to a person, even he's
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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread MAU
Hello Vili,

 Message 4., TO: B
 When  you Alt+click on message 4, that should bring up messages 2,3,4.
 Absolutely not, this is not what I am proposing. Alt+clicking on 4
 should only bring up 4.

 Ok. We then need Ctrl+Alt+click to bring up messages 2,3,4. Sometimes
 you would like to see all mails that you send to a person, even he's
 in the CC or BCC field.

Please don't anyone misunderstand what I am suggesting. I am not asking
to change anything about the way Alt+click filtering works, not at all.
What I am asking for is that the *To column* displays *only* the To
field. Otherwise, the column should be named 'Recipient(s)' and not
'To'.

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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread MAU
Hello Peter,

 The elegant solution (IMO) would be to quick search the contents based
 on what is _visible_, i.e. if CC is shown, then it's the full string -
 if just To is shown, then... you get the idea... :-)

I don't think it is a question of elegance or not. As I have just
written in a reply to Vili, I am not suggesting to change the way
Alt+click filtering works. All I am suggesting is that the contents
(display) of the To column is/displays the To field.

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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart,

 I've only recently discovered alt-click, but for the reasons you state
 regarding it, I agree.

Thanks. I'll be logging a Wishlist item later today.

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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread MAU
Hello Martin,

 The 'To' column, if wide enough, displays the name/address(es) of the
 To: field *plus* the name(s)/address(es) of the Cc: field if there are
 any. This, adding the Cc names, is what I have come to the conclusion
 that should not be that way [...]

 I support that wish.


And, to make it clear to those who may have misunderstood, that is
exactly my wish. To change what the To column displays, nothing to do
with changing the Alt+click filtering or any of the *many* other search
capabilities of TB  like Message Finder, Quick Search, Message Tabs,
Virtual Folders, Alt+click filtering, View/Display/... and
View/Display/Advanced filtering, etc.

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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread MAU
Hello Hendrik,

 I agree with both the changed Alt+click behaviour

As I have written in some other messages in this thread, I am not
suggesting to change the Alt+click behaviour, I am suggesting to change
the contents/display of the To column.

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Re[2]: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread Vili
Hello MAU,

 Message 4., TO: B
 When  you Alt+click on message 4, that should bring up messages 2,3,4.
 Absolutely not, this is not what I am proposing. Alt+clicking on 4
 should only bring up 4.
 Ok. We then need Ctrl+Alt+click to bring up messages 2,3,4. Sometimes
 you would like to see all mails that you send to a person, even he's
 in the CC or BCC field.
 Please don't anyone misunderstand what I am suggesting. I am not asking
 to change anything about the way Alt+click filtering works, not at all.
 What I am asking for is that the *To column* displays *only* the To
 field. Otherwise, the column should be named 'Recipient(s)' and not
 'To'.

I see. Then the best solution is to have CC and BCC fields. That would
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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU,

On 27-10-2005 15:58, you [M] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
M I don't think it is a question of elegance or not. As I have just
M written in a reply to Vili, I am not suggesting to change the way
M Alt+click filtering works. All I am suggesting is that the contents
M (display) of the To column is/displays the To field.

We, since they're maybe about to mess around with the To field, I rather
they didn't (OK, maybe it needs to be renamed in that case) but would
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Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?

2005-10-27 Thread MAU
Hello Peter,

 We, since they're maybe about to mess around with the To field, I rather
 they didn't (OK, maybe it needs to be renamed in that case) but would
 prefer they changed how ALT-click works.

The To column, it is the To /column/ they would have to mess around, not
the /field/.

And I'd rather they don't mess around with Atl+click. It works just fine
the way it does now. So maybe renaming the To column is the way to go.

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