Re[2]: Filter (Regular Expression) Me and "Only" ME
Friday, February 7, 2003, 11:07:21 AM, you wrote: >Maybe theBat could improve its filters by implementing something like >SpamPal into theBat. I would rather they bought a special license from the guy that did JBMail, and use it as a plugin..just the logic parts that include 'pattern matching' of certain lines in the header, for 'black' and 'white' pattern matching and also black and white lists, which work like a check and cover for each other. The pattern matching cleans up what the list can't 'read' together the system is 100% reliable. Don't forget to put "Big5" in your blacklist to catch 99% of the Asian spam. I don't think it would be much of an addition to the size of TB as the whole program (without it's .ini file) is just over 100/Kb. It has the advantage of listing all one's mails on the remote server, and in the process highlighting everything it sees that isn't in your 'whitelist' and so then you just have a look and make sure your son-in-law's brother (the one with the hotmail.com address) is not listed among the spammers; then hit the delete key, and hundreds of unwanted junk joins the ether in seconds; download what's left to TB. C.K. - TB 1.63/Beta5 on win98se Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBTECH" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter (Regular Expression) Me and "Only" ME
This morning after I checked my mail, I noticed that this filter zapped 53 pieces of spam! (I have a folder just for this filter) The bats filters are fast, I've noticed that theBat can filter spam just a quick as the go-between spam filters. I liked SpamPal, but thats just one more piece of software that I'll have to figure out and tweak. Maybe theBat could improve its filters by implementing something like SpamPal into theBat. -- Best Regards, ~John - - - Peter Palmreuther wrote - - - >>> (.+@.+[,;].*[EMAIL PROTECTED])|([EMAIL PROTECTED]*[,;].+@.+) - - - End of Peter Palmreuther's message - - - Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBTECH" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter (Regular Expression) Me and "Only" ME
Thursday, February 6, 2003, 8:55:23 AM, you wrote: > Thanks Peter! This seems to do the trick. Regular expressions are tricky to write and revealing in their complexity as to who's good at them and who's not and why that is. There's a 'strong' community of posters here that take a keen interest in the power of regex and all it can do but for spam why have to download all that (sometimes hundreds of messages, some with attachments) before one's well crafted regex filters can do their job? Why not be able to use TB as a 'viewer' of the remote server and zap the spam there, before getting the mail you want? I know however, if you are hosting your own domain and the spam was coming to 'your' server then of course what's already in your house so to speak regex filters would be the way to deal with it. I don't think, however this is the way it is for the majority of TB users. If I had the best regex for all spam possibilities, I would still be waiting a long time to download this crap (as it were) before the regex(s) filters could do their work. This is just more aggravation to an already slow Internet connection. I use a small program to display the headers which by it's methods, highlight the spam so it can be deleted with one click; This, for even hundreds of unwanted messages, can be accomplished in under a minute with a typical modem connection. After that I bring up TB hit F2 and download the stuff I want. This is the way I deal with spam. C.K. - TB 1.63/Beta5 on win98se Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBTECH" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter (Regular Expression) Me and "Only" ME
Hi ~John, On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:55:23 -0600 ~John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Give this a try: >> >> (.+@.+[,;].*[EMAIL PROTECTED])|([EMAIL PROTECTED]*[,;].+@.+) >> >> Location: Recipient >> Presence: Yes >> Regular Expression: Yes > Thanks Peter! > This seems to do the trick... I knew someone could figure this out, I > was about to pull my hair out. > Do you have any other regex filters that you could share with me? I have tons of regular expressions, as I need them on a daily basis ... albeit not for The Bat! but my job :-) Regular expressions are most the time "situation related": name me your problem and there will (probably) be a regular expression. The other way round is seldom the way of luck :-) > I would also recommend this filter to everyone else that are trying to > setup spam filters! I'd recommend a good AntiSpam tool hooked before The Bat! for those wanting to filter spam effectivly. The filters hooking on sender or recipient of a mail have their boundaries. Some earlier, some a little later. A more global anti spam technology is using something like SpamPal or SpamAssassin. The latter catches 98% of spam I get (some are simply to short for being successfully recognized) and 1-2 false positives a week. The false positives only come because I'm to lazy to put those newletters in my white list :-) -- Pit Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBTECH" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter (Regular Expression) Me and "Only" ME
Thanks Peter! This seems to do the trick... I knew someone could figure this out, I was about to pull my hair out. Do you have any other regex filters that you could share with me? thanks again, I really do appreciate your help, as well as the others who tried to help me. I would also recommend this filter to everyone else that are trying to setup spam filters! -- Best Regards, ~John - - - Peter Palmreuther wrote - - - > On Friday, February 6, 1998 at 4:27:39 AM you [~] wrote (at least in > part): >>> I created this "Only Me" filter: >>> >>> Move to "Not to me" folder >>> ", [EMAIL PROTECTED]"|"[EMAIL PROTECTED]," >>> Location : Recipient >>> Presence : Yes >>> ~>> Crap! I doesn't work either I still need help. > Give this a try: > (.+@.+[,;].*[EMAIL PROTECTED])|([EMAIL PROTECTED]*[,;].+@.+) > Location: Recipient > Presence: Yes > Regular Expression: Yes > Untested, but could work. > Your expression missed the fact your address could be in angel > brackets and there don't need to be a space between comma and your > address. Additionally a semicolon could be used as delimiter. > The expression above checks for a "seems to be an e-mail-address" > either before or behind your own address, delimited by a comma or > semicolon. Quite far from being perfect, but might help as a first > step. - - - End of Peter Palmreuther's message - - - Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBTECH" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter (Regular Expression) Me and "Only" ME
Hello ~John, On Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:35:20 -0600 you wrote: > Now I can safely say that I am close to spam free, while only using > theBat! filters! I am sure you must have a reason to have your date set to 5 years ago. With this, my systems regards all your messages as SPAM. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBTECH" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter (Regular Expression) Me and "Only" ME
Hello ~John, On Friday, February 6, 1998 at 4:27:39 AM you [~] wrote (at least in part): >> I created this "Only Me" filter: >> >> Move to "Not to me" folder >> ", [EMAIL PROTECTED]"|"[EMAIL PROTECTED]," >> Location : Recipient >> Presence : Yes >> ~> Crap! I doesn't work either I still need help. Give this a try: (.+@.+[,;].*[EMAIL PROTECTED])|([EMAIL PROTECTED]*[,;].+@.+) Location: Recipient Presence: Yes Regular Expression: Yes Untested, but could work. Your expression missed the fact your address could be in angel brackets and there don't need to be a space between comma and your address. Additionally a semicolon could be used as delimiter. The expression above checks for a "seems to be an e-mail-address" either before or behind your own address, delimited by a comma or semicolon. Quite far from being perfect, but might help as a first step. -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Adolescence is that period of time between puberty and adultery. Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBTECH" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter (Regular Expression) Me and "Only" ME
Crap! I doesn't work either I still need help. -- Best Regards, ~John - - - ~John wrote - - - > I did it! I did it! > Here is how I done it, I was trying too hard. > I created this "Only Me" filter: > > Move to "Not to me" folder > ", [EMAIL PROTECTED]"|"[EMAIL PROTECTED]," > Location : Recipient > Presence : Yes > > and placed it last in the list, I moved my "Known" filter to directly > above my "Only Me" filter, and unchecked the "continue to process" > check box, so that ones from my address book can place my address in a > string with others, but no one else can. > Now I can safely say that I am close to spam free, while only using > theBat! filters! > -- > Best Regards, > ~John > - - - ~John wrote - - - >> I have been getting allot of Spam here lately that is addressed to me >> along with several random or generated e-mail addresses. >> So my question is, how do I create a filter that will "trash" any >> e-mail to me [in either the To: or CC:] that has my address >> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) listed with *any* other e-mail address. >> This is tricky, because the filter has to catch the e-mail whether or >> not my e-mail address is listed first,last, or in the middle. >> So In other words I want the filter to allow mail to my inbox that is >> addressed to me and *only* me. Other e-mail, such as lists will be >> filtered to the appropriate folder prior to this filter, so that I >> won't miss any list mail. >> (I'm CC'ing this to TBTECH just in case its too complicated for TBUDL) >> But I'm hoping someone, somewhere can tell me how to do this, I think >> it would be a helpful filter for everyone as well. >> -- >> Best Regards, >> ~John >> Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows 98 4.10 Build A >> Programs running in the background: >> Grisoft AVG:6.0.449 Database:251 (last updated 1/27/03) >> ZoneAlarm ... > - - - End of ~John's message - - - - - - End of ~John's message - - - Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBTECH" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter (Regular Expression) Me and "Only" ME
I did it! I did it! Here is how I done it, I was trying too hard. I created this "Only Me" filter: Move to "Not to me" folder ", [EMAIL PROTECTED]"|"[EMAIL PROTECTED]," Location : Recipient Presence : Yes and placed it last in the list, I moved my "Known" filter to directly above my "Only Me" filter, and unchecked the "continue to process" check box, so that ones from my address book can place my address in a string with others, but no one else can. Now I can safely say that I am close to spam free, while only using theBat! filters! -- Best Regards, ~John - - - ~John wrote - - - > I have been getting allot of Spam here lately that is addressed to me > along with several random or generated e-mail addresses. > So my question is, how do I create a filter that will "trash" any > e-mail to me [in either the To: or CC:] that has my address > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) listed with *any* other e-mail address. > This is tricky, because the filter has to catch the e-mail whether or > not my e-mail address is listed first,last, or in the middle. > So In other words I want the filter to allow mail to my inbox that is > addressed to me and *only* me. Other e-mail, such as lists will be > filtered to the appropriate folder prior to this filter, so that I > won't miss any list mail. > (I'm CC'ing this to TBTECH just in case its too complicated for TBUDL) > But I'm hoping someone, somewhere can tell me how to do this, I think > it would be a helpful filter for everyone as well. > -- > Best Regards, > ~John > Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows 98 4.10 Build A > Programs running in the background: > Grisoft AVG:6.0.449 Database:251 (last updated 1/27/03) > ZoneAlarm ... - - - End of ~John's message - - - Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBTECH" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter (Regular Expression) Me and "Only" ME
I have been getting allot of Spam here lately that is addressed to me along with several random or generated e-mail addresses. So my question is, how do I create a filter that will "trash" any e-mail to me [in either the To: or CC:] that has my address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) listed with *any* other e-mail address. This is tricky, because the filter has to catch the e-mail whether or not my e-mail address is listed first,last, or in the middle. So In other words I want the filter to allow mail to my inbox that is addressed to me and *only* me. Other e-mail, such as lists will be filtered to the appropriate folder prior to this filter, so that I won't miss any list mail. (I'm CC'ing this to TBTECH just in case its too complicated for TBUDL) But I'm hoping someone, somewhere can tell me how to do this, I think it would be a helpful filter for everyone as well. -- Best Regards, ~John Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Programs running in the background: Grisoft AVG:6.0.449 Database:251 (last updated 1/27/03) ZoneAlarm ... Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBTECH" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
