Week of the year

[Mark Partous]

Hello Bats,

Already asked in TBBETA, but then I realised this was perhaps a more
appropriate list...:

Anyone any idea if there is a (plugin)Macro with which one can reproduce the
week of the year? Or must (if possible) this be done with RegEx?

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Re: Week of the year

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Mark,

On Thursday, November 20, 2003 at 20:28 GMT +0100, Mark Partous
pressed random keys until the following was produced:

> Or must (if possible) this be done with RegEx?

As far as I understand it, the plugins can do everything and much more
than a RegExp can.  From the sounds of it, you already have a template
but are looking to simplify it.  Is that correct?

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Re: Week of the year

[Carsten Thönges]

* Mark Partous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Saturday, November 22, 2003, 12:10:25 AM, you wrote:

>>> I don't know if there are any other...
>> No yet, But I'll send code to Andrey for next verion's update

> Do you mean code for "Week of the year"?

... and don't forget that there is more than one definition for
»week of the year«. :-/

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Re: Week of the year

[Heinz Hombergs]

On Saturday, November 22, 2003, 21:26:23 (+0500 GMT) Alexander Leschinsky wrote:

> I know only one - number of week is number of week, and 1.01 always
> start 1-st week

That's not correct. There is an ISO definition.
The week with at last 4 days of the new year are the first week of
this year. So all weeks where the 01.01 between monday and thursday
are the first week of the year. And some years have not 52 weeks, they
have 53 weeks. ;)

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Re: Week of the year

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Alexander,

On Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 9:26:23 PM you [AL] wrote (at least
in part):

CT>> ... and don't forget that there is more than one definition for
CT>> »week of the year«. :-/
AL> I know only one - number of week is number of week,

That's correct.

AL> and 1.01 always start 1-st week

No. The week that fells January 1st into is first week of the year
(week starting with monday).

>>Today is 327-th day, 48-th week of year 2003

Over here it's 47-th week of the year 2003 A.D.
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Re: Week of the year

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Alexander,

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:26:23 +0500GMT (22-11-03, 21:26 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

CT>> ... and don't forget that there is more than one definition for
CT>> »week of the year«. :-/
AL> I know only one - number of week is number of week, and 1.01 always
AL> start 1-st week

I read this as should the first of January always start the first
week. According to ISO-8601 this is not true.
When a week has days from different years, the week is counted for the
year that has most days (at least four) in that week, this means that
the week number is computed by counting thursdays.

>>Today is 327-th day, 48-th week of year 2003

You wrote your message on Sunday, so it is the 327th day. However it's
week 47, I don't where you go amiss, but according to ISO-8601 the
week starts at Monday and ends with a Sunday.

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Re: Week of the year

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Ingrid,

On Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 12:34:03 AM you [PP] wrote (at least
in part):

PP> The week that fells
  ^
  I shouldn't drink and d^hwrite :-/

"falls", like "to fall" I intended to express :-/
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Re: Week of the year

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Alexander!

On Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 1:33:33 AM you wrote:

> But 1-st January _is_ in week number 1?

No. As has been pointed out there are at least two different
definitions:

1. The week with the first of January in it is Week 1.

2. ISO says, the first week containing at least four January days is
the first week of the year.

The second def - now standard - allows the 1st, 2nd and 3rd January to
be in the 53rd week of the year, hence the last days of the year
before.




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Re: Week of the year

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Alexander,

On Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 4:33:07 PM you [AL] wrote (at least in
part):

DH>> The second def - now standard - allows the 1st, 2nd and 3rd January to
DH>> be in the 53rd week of the year, hence the last days of the year
DH>> before.
AL> But according ISO, 1-st Jan 2003 was in week 1, thus - I can't grok, why
AL> current week must be 47-th

Take a calendar (even Windows build in calendar will do it) and count
weeks. One by one. You'll end up at 47 when you hit current week. I
just did.
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Re: Week of the year

[Mark Wieder]

Mark-

Sunday, November 23, 2003, 2:33:12 PM, you wrote:

MP> Seems I started something off. I hadn't thought of the possible

Nontheless, my thanks for starting this off. I never thought there
would end up being a 53rd week in the year, or that 1 January could
end up being in anything other than the first week. Fascinating stuff.
And I *have* done a fair amount of calendar calculations for different
system conversions, lunar cycles, etc.

...and surprisingly enough, it's still all OT.

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Re: Week of the year

[Guy Platt]

Interesting thread this. Made me realise that it would be nice to have 
TclockEx show the week of the year. Here in Sweden everyone makes plans 
based on the WOTY.

Does anyone have a freeware / shareware utility which could replace 
TclockEx  and display WOTY?

Mark Partous penned the following on 11/23/2003 11:33 PM:

Seems I started something off. I hadn't thought of the possible
interpretations of what is the first week of the year. I see the number in my
TclockEx, or on my calendar, and that's about it. 
 



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Re: Week of the year

[Guy Platt]

Scratch that ... I found the option in TclockEx to display the week :)

Guy Platt penned the following on 11/26/2003 10:19 PM:

Interesting thread this. Made me realise that it would be nice to have 
TclockEx show the week of the year. Here in Sweden everyone makes 
plans based on the WOTY.

Does anyone have a freeware / shareware utility which could replace 
TclockEx  and display WOTY?



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Re[2]: Week of the year

[Mark Partous]

Hello Januk,

Thursday, November 20, 2003, 9:12:31 PM, you wrote:

JA> As far as I understand it, the plugins can do everything and much more
JA> than a RegExp can.  From the sounds of it, you already have a template
JA> but are looking to simplify it.  Is that correct?

Ehm...No...
Every week I'm sending some sort of agenda. I've made a QT and wanted to be
able to automatically add the week's number in the subject with
%SUBJECT="Agenda, for week .. in .pdf and .txt format"%-

The only plugins that are installed are MyMacros 1.07 an ajs Macros 0.6/5.6
I don't know if there are any other...

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Re[3]: Week of the year

[Alexander Leschinsky]

Hello Mark,

   On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:40:09 +0100 (21.11.2003 02:40 my local time)
   you wrote about "Week of the year"
   at least in part:

MP> I don't know if there are any other...
No yet, But I'll send code to Andrey for next verion's update
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Re[4]: Week of the year

[Mark Partous]

Hello Alexander,

Saturday, November 22, 2003, 12:10:25 AM, you wrote:

MP>> I don't know if there are any other...
AL> No yet, But I'll send code to Andrey for next verion's update

Do you mean code for "Week of the year"?

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Re[5]: Week of the year

[Alexander Leschinsky]

Hello Mark,

   On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:55:37 +0100 (22.11.2003 17:55 my local time)
   you wrote about "Week of the year"
   at least in part:

MP> Do you mean code for "Week of the year"?
Yes, really I wrote two macros - WeekOfYear and DayOfYear and prepared
(while they aren't added to MyMacros) separate plugin

AnotherMacros available on request
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Re[2]: Week of the year

[Alexander Leschinsky]

Hello Carsten,

   On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:26:48 +0100 (22.11.2003 18:26 my local time)
   you wrote about "Week of the year"
   at least in part:

CT> ... and don't forget that there is more than one definition for
CT> »week of the year«. :-/
I know only one - number of week is number of week, and 1.01 always
start 1-st week

>Today is 327-th day, 48-th week of year 2003

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Re[3]: Week of the year

[Peter Ouwehand]

Hello Alexander Leschinsky,

on Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:26:23 +0500 (2003-11-22 21:26:23 in .nl) in the
message with reference 
you wrote (at least in part):

AL> I know only one - number of week is number of week, and 1.01 always
AL> start 1-st week

ISO-8601 download links on:
http://www.astroclark.freeserve.co.uk/iso8601/index.htm

The Mathematics of the ISO 8601 Calendar on:
http://www.phys.uu.nl/~vgent/calendar/isocalendar.htm

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Re[2]: Week of the year

[Alexander Leschinsky]

Hello Roelof,

   On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:44:40 +0100 (23.11.2003 04:44 my local time)
   you wrote about "Week of the year"
   at least in part:

RO> I read this as should the first of January always start the first
RO> week. According to ISO-8601 this is not true.
Okay, okay

I can add %ISOWEEKOFYEAR for purists


RO> You wrote your message on Sunday, so it is the 327th day. However it's
RO> week 47, I don't where you go amiss, but according to ISO-8601 the
RO> week starts at Monday and ends with a Sunday.
Well, but

%WEEKOFYEAR("1.1.2005")   1
%WEEKOFYEAR("1.1.2003")   1

Is it true for

Third day
and
Thigh day
of the week for 1-st January?
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Re[2]: Week of the year

[Alexander Leschinsky]

Hello Peter,

   On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:34:03 +0100 (23.11.2003 04:34 my local time)
   you wrote about "Week of the year"
   at least in part:

PP> No. The week that fells January 1st into is first week of the year
PP> (week starting with monday).
But 1-st January _is_ in week number 1?

>>>Today is 327-th day, 48-th week of year 2003

PP> Over here it's 47-th week of the year 2003 A.D.
Why???
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Re[2]: Week of the year

[Alexander Leschinsky]

Hello Heinz,

   On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:33:39 +0100 (23.11.2003 04:33 my local time)
   you wrote about "Week of the year"
   at least in part:

HH> So all weeks where the 01.01 between monday and thursday are the
HH> first week of the year.
But what is the number of week for 01 Jan after Thursday?

%WEEKOFYEAR("31.12.2005")
%WEEKOFYEAR("31.12.2003")

produce now
1
53

in my code now, %WEEKOFYEAR("1.1.2006") - 1

52
52
53
53
53
53

for
%WEEKOFYEAR("26.12.2003")
%WEEKOFYEAR("27.12.2003")
%WEEKOFYEAR("28.12.2003")
%WEEKOFYEAR("29.12.2003")
%WEEKOFYEAR("30.12.2003")
%WEEKOFYEAR("31.12.2003")

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Re[4]: Week of the year

[Alexander Leschinsky]

Hello Peter,

   On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:42:04 +0100 (23.11.2003 05:42 my local time)
   you wrote about "Week of the year"
   at least in part:

PO> The Mathematics of the ISO 8601 Calendar
Good, I'll implement ISOWeek on this base
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Re[2]: Week of the year

[Alexander Leschinsky]

Hello Dierk,

   On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:41:36 +0100 (23.11.2003 13:41 my local time)
   you wrote about "Week of the year"
   at least in part:

DH> The second def - now standard - allows the 1st, 2nd and 3rd January to
DH> be in the 53rd week of the year, hence the last days of the year
DH> before.
But according ISO, 1-st Jan 2003 was in week 1, thus - I can't grok, why
current week must be 47-th

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Re[2]: Week of the year

[Mark Partous]

Hello Carsten,

Saturday, November 22, 2003, 2:26:48 PM, you wrote:


>> Do you mean code for "Week of the year"?

CT> ... and don't forget that there is more than one definition for
CT> »week of the year«. :-/

Seems I started something off. I hadn't thought of the possible
interpretations of what is the first week of the year. I see the number in my
TclockEx, or on my calendar, and that's about it. No questions occured in my
head as far as the WOTY was concerned.

I thought you were referring to other era's (arab/hebrew/chinese/...), not to
mention a "week of the year" as in "car of the year" :-)


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Mod: Top posting (was: Week of the year)

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Guy,

@26-Nov-2003, 22:19 +0100 (26-Nov 21:19 UK time) Guy Platt said:

> Does anyone have a freeware / shareware utility which could
> replace TclockEx  and display WOTY?


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