Re: envelope-to header
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Vincent, On 12 November 2000 at 06:32:14 GMT +0100 (which was 05:32 where I live) Vincent - D. Ertner wrote and made these points: VDE who creates an envelope-to header? I try to configure a program, VDE which needs this header - but obviously doesn't get one, if I'm VDE sending mail in ... any ideas? Not sure what you mean by this. The SMTP RCPT TO is taken from the "To:" address line. The SMTP FROM envelope is taken from the "From:" address. What is an "envelope-to" header? Is it a special x-header? can you use X-Ray to add it in (I forget the URL but it's in the archive somewhere)? - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] No sense being pessimistic, it probably wouldn't work anyway TB! v1.48 Beta/4 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOg5ywznkJKuSnc2gEQJs5QCg+6eGdoXYAYkMnNVOPDNxw/Az7asAoLT6 Ainm2q2Zz2g9JCofVj+B/yHg =0w9U -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: envelope-to header
At 10:36 12/11/2000, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: Not sure what you mean by this. The SMTP RCPT TO is taken from the "To:" address line. The SMTP FROM envelope is taken from the "From:" address. What is an "envelope-to" header? Is it a special x-header? can you use X-Ray to add it in (I forget the URL but it's in the archive somewhere)? Envelope-To: is often added by the final MTA in the delivery process. It is taken from the final SMTP RCPT TO. Regards, Mike -- Mike Zanker | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northampton | United Kingdom| PGP Public Key available . -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Trying to make a anti-spam filter in The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:08:19 -0800, Ming-Li thoughtfully wrote the following: ML If TB provides a "bozo bin" as Gravity or XNews do, or at allow AB ML entries or filter items to expire after certain days as Agent does, ML filtering spammers directly would be much easier and more practical. The bozo bin principle will work with newsreading because 'bozos' are posters, whose messages you wish not to read. They aren't spammers so they use a fixed address . although mind you there are some professional bozos who tend to change their addresses. ML That's bound to be more often. They haven't done it often because ML they are sending identical messages to a bunch of addresses. Since ML they don't want you to know who else are among the recipients, they ML resort to the BCC trick. With Word (or other word processors), MAPI, ML and mail-merge, sophisticated spammers have begun to use ML personalized spam. Since you're the only recipient of a particular ML message, they don't shy from putting your name in the To field. ML That's why I miss the bozo bin so much. Don't these spammers change their addresses and sources for each spam message that they send? though I'll attempt to do a traceroute on the source and if successful send a complaint to the relevant ISP. ML That's nice, but time is a scarce resource. :( It's really not that bad when I use Neotrace and TB!'s templates. I created a complaint template. I then look in the Kludges and run a trace on the DNS address from which the message originated. 50% of the times I'll find the ISP. I then copy the ISP info from Neotrace, include it in the spam complaint and send the message to them. This all takes about 10-15secs per message. I do other things while Neotrace does its thing so I don't count the traceroute time. - -- A. Curtis Martin | Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Even a hawk is an eagle among crows. " _ TB! v1.48 Beta/4 (S/N CCA4F9B8) Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOg6IqfAXeSHuB5k3EQIFBwCeNsaUcKXZ8fUeJV4RD9/iYJ181j0AoO1e K/TGNXq4o09LFqNjkkNKwriJ =m6HD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: envelope-to header
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 10:36:51 +, Marck D. Pearlstone graced us with these comments: [..] MDP Not sure what you mean by this. The SMTP RCPT TO is taken from the MDP "To:" address line. The SMTP FROM envelope is taken from the MDP "From:" address. What is an "envelope-to" header? Is it a special MDP x-header? can you use X-Ray to add it in (I forget the URL but it's MDP in the archive somewhere)? The link to X-Ray is http://xraysoft.cjb.net/ - -- A. Curtis Martin | Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. " _ TB! v1.48 Beta/4 (S/N CCA4F9B8) Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOg6J3fAXeSHuB5k3EQKS7ACgt/s7URvMNzX0TabQSlfR6jq7C2MAnAmG BUF3g/qn1qeFeW54/YGJFsr/ =rAd7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Trying to make a anti-spam filter in The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi A. Curtis, On Sunday, November 12, 2000 @ 07:10:10 -0500 you wrote the following in regards to Trying to make a "anti-spam filter" in The Bat!: A. Curtis I use Neotrace and TB!'s templates. I created a A. Curtis complaint template. I then look in the Kludges A. Curtis and run a trace on the DNS address from which the A. Curtis message originated. 50% of the times I'll find A. Curtis the ISP. I then copy the ISP info from Neotrace, A. Curtis include it in the spam complaint and send the A. Curtis message to them. This all takes about 10-15secs A. Curtis per message. If this is off topic I will be happy to take this off list but I'd be interested in knowing how to automate a spam response. - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D And TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOg6eEpccVS5MnN+dEQKMIACgoAqywwOkQvKts6zl6VcRJpC73vYAnRxu FzX2LHFj/petPhVXL3M1Ko5V =z9JX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Choose template on the basis of language
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ming-Li, On Saturday, November 11, 2000 @ 19:43:25 -0800, you wrote the following about "Choose template on the basis of language" Ming-Li other useful keyboard shortcuts, and you can find Ming-Li them at: Ming-Li http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt This link is not working for me, Ming-Li. - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D And TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOg6jupccVS5MnN+dEQKdWACfZTuVtA/PoBSH5RRH2FwJGzZ6SYQAn2Ty ipJnMgOTtgf745/1hB6HrSmk =Gjyj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Trying to make a anti-spam filter in The Bat!
On Sunday, November 12, 2000, 4:10:10 AM, A. wrote: ML If TB provides a "bozo bin" as Gravity or XNews do, or at allow ML AB entries or filter items to expire after certain days as ML Agent does, filtering spammers directly would be much easier ML and more practical. The bozo bin principle will work with newsreading because 'bozos' are posters, whose messages you wish not to read. They aren't spammers so they use a fixed address . although mind you there are some professional bozos who tend to change their addresses. I want a bozo bin exactly because spammers (email or newsgrouop ones alike) change their addresses often, for a well-implemented bozo bin lets you decide when a blocked/killed address should expire. With TB's address book, we can use the group feature to create a bozo bin for ourselves, but address added to it won't expire. This isn't very useful and would eventually slow down the system since it's checking against a long list of spammer addresses that's no longer in use. ML With Word (or other word processors), MAPI, and mail-merge, ML sophisticated spammers have begun to use personalized spam. ML Since you're the only recipient of a particular message, they ML don't shy from putting your name in the To field. That's why I ML miss the bozo bin so much. Don't these spammers change their addresses and sources for each spam message that they send? They do, but they may not be changing that often. That's why an expiration period is important. It's really not that bad when I use Neotrace and TB!'s templates. I created a complaint template. I then look in the Kludges and run a trace on the DNS address from which the message originated. 50% of the times I'll find the ISP. I then copy the ISP info from Neotrace, include it in the spam complaint and send the message to them. This all takes about 10-15secs per message. I do other things while Neotrace does its thing so I don't count the traceroute time. All I have to do is just forward the spam message to our Anti-Spam Team, and they'll do the tracing and filing complaints. If complaints don't work, they can block it. Nice, isn't it? :) -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Choose template on the basis of language
On Sunday, November 12, 2000, 6:05:35 AM, Jan wrote: Ming-Li other useful keyboard shortcuts, and you can find them Ming-Li at: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt This link is not working for me, Ming-Li. Really? Just tried, and it works. Or try this: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/ which is the FAQ site. You'll find the shortcut list there. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Trying to make a anti-spam filter in The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12 November, 2000, 10:24 AM, I saw Ming-Li's comments made on Sun, 12 Nov 2000 06:57:33 -0800, and thought I'd add my $0.02 worth: ML I want a bozo bin exactly because spammers (email or newsgrouop ones ML alike) change their addresses often, for a well-implemented bozo bin ML lets you decide when a blocked/killed address should expire. [..] Aaahh! That, I didn't know. :-) ML They do, but they may not be changing that often. That's why an ML expiration period is important. True. ML All I have to do is just forward the spam message to our Anti-Spam ML Team, and they'll do the tracing and filing complaints. If ML complaints don't work, they can block it. Nice, isn't it? :) Yeah. I wish I had such a team to forward my tons of spam to. It would appear that my ISP doesn't implement any antispam measures. I really get a lot. Up to 6 spam messages per day. - -- A. Curtis Martin | Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "A pessimist is never disappointed. " _ TB! v1.48 Beta/4 (S/N CCA4F9B8) | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOg62pvAXeSHuB5k3EQKWmACbB15OTO2P4RnWQtQsAM0azNl6qw4AnAz2 0otiMSjVpNTX3K3Mot0BZIgq =MBvp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Choose template on the basis of language
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ming-Li, On Sunday, November 12, 2000 @ 06:45:36 -0800, you wrote the following about "Choose template on the basis of language" Ming-Li http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt This link is not working for me, Ming-Li. Ming-Li Really? Just tried, and it works. Or try this: Ming-Li http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/ Apologies, Ming-Li. My new anti-virus program was blocking the browser. Your original link works just fine. - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D And TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOg65UpccVS5MnN+dEQLdnwCgkKggbbVR0cHljm+89zc3lfvWN80AnigY e6rsGGZuvkcRUpoPGhQVVzSm =buRF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: macro dumping *just* eGroups ads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hi Marck,
On Friday, November 10, 2000 @ 14:15:01 + you
wrote the following in regards to macro dumping
*just* eGroups ads:
Marck [...] This is the wrong macro. [...] Your situation
Marck is the opposite - banner ads and no PGP. You should
Marck be using the macro which precedes it on the page as
Marck follows:
Marck %quotes="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(^-BEGIN PGP
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP
SIGNATURE.*s?\n|-+\s*eGroups.*~-~.*-*_-)|\z)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""%SUBPATT=""3"""
Sorry not to have responded sooner, Marck as it
appears your email slipped by me for some reason
yet tbd. Yes, thank you, I was definitely using
the wrong macro while the correct macro cleans
things up perfectly.
- --
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D
And TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition
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iQA/AwUBOg6845ccVS5MnN+dEQLlMgCfVGQ+fMR0QN2eH02S7QtDezZ9OJcAnRUz
pPFDtCaniLrpcMnw/43peZIs
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Encryption of .TBB Mailboxes?
Hi, I am curious if there is an option (planned?) in TB that encrypts the mailbox files. The password feature to secure access to a mailbox is well meant, but it is more or less useless if anyone with access to the .tbb files can read those using any ASCII editor. -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Encryption of .TBB Mailboxes?
Hi, I am curious if there is an option (planned?) in TB that encrypts the mailbox files. Good question, I would be interested in that myself. And my additional question is if there is/will be a way to encrypt (only) folders in an account (instead or even in addition of the account)? Thanks, Alexander -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Trying to make a anti-spam filter in The Bat!
Hello Ming-Li, Saturday, November 11, 2000, 9:56:02 PM, you wrote: : M On Saturday, November 11, 2000, 12:30:45 PM, Dean wrote: M Personally, I don't use any spam filter, for I've got very few M so far. :) I believe you'll find there's a reason behind that, the $ fine for spamming a .edu is quite high, much higher than any of us other folks, if memory serves me correct;) M Fine? By whom? I've never heard of that. Could you provide more M information? I would be happy to learn about it. I checked relevant M web sites of our university and couldn't find anything about fining M spammers. In fact, our University Network Security Team says the M last resort is to block traffic from certain IP address or subnet. M We do have a diligent University Anti-Spam Team, though, which M handles spam complaints swiftly. http://www.jmls.edu/cyber/statutes/email/hr4124.html(2) RELIEF FOR INDIVIDUALS- '(A) In an action under this section for violation of subsection (b), relief shall be sought in an action brought by the attorney general of one or more states.Please read on so as to not bore the rest of the folks. http://www.jmls.edu/cyber/statutes/email/caab1629.html http://www.suespammers.org/resources.shtml, http://www.suespammers.org/ca/lawindex.shtml I'm still looking for the specific CA law regarding .edu ... it is burried in with the fax laws and CAUCE. I believe around 1996/7. As I said if memory serves me... I will publish the results, when I have time on TBOT :) Besides, a young inquisitive person such as yourself, if really interested could find it much faster than I The laws came out when I was still at a .edu myself, that is why I remember what little I do. -- Thanks, Dean The Bat1.48 Beta/4 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re:Trying to make a anti-spam filter in The Bat!
Hello Curtis, On 12 November 2000, A . Curtis Martin wrote and made these points on the subject of "Trying to make a "anti-spam filter" in The Bat!": ACM Yeah. I wish I had such a team to forward my tons of spam to. It ACM would appear that my ISP doesn't implement any antispam measures. ACM I really get a lot. Up to 6 spam messages per day. Try http://SpamCop.net. They analyse spams in an expert fashion and report them to the appropriate ISPs within seconds. Great in my opinion. -- Best regards, Assad Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/6 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Encryption of .TBB Mailboxes?
On 12-11-2000 at 22:59, Januk Aggarwal kindly wrote: Alexander Turcic typed: I am curious if there is an option (planned?) in TB that encrypts the mailbox files. No. TB used to use some encryption, but that was very weak, so they removed all encryption. It is now up to the user to get a 3rd party program to encrypt their data. Some other members have said that PGPDisk works well for them. I have not used it myself. I use PGP disk and it works excellently. Previously, I used Securedisk; that also worked fine (but can't co-operate with WinNT, and is restricted to 0,5 GB. Version 1.4d can supposedly manage 2 GB, but I haven't tried it.) - K - -- "The feeling you had when you first played these old computer games as a ten year old down in the basement during the summer, back in the days that you knew it all and while your friends were hanging around at the pool you'd be saving the galaxy!" - Menso on HfH, 1999-10-16 "Oh, eh, thanks for saving the galaxy, by the way. You did a great job, Menso." - Marcel on HfH, 1999-10-16 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Encryption of .TBB Mailboxes?
On 12-11-2000 at 23:24:22GMT +0100 (which was 22:24 where I live) Karin Spaink wrote regarding the subject of " Encryption of .TBB Mailboxes? " On 12-11-2000 at 22:59, Januk Aggarwal kindly wrote: Alexander Turcic typed: I am curious if there is an option (planned?) in TB that encrypts the mailbox files. No. TB used to use some encryption, but that was very weak, so they removed all encryption. It is now up to the user to get a 3rd party program to encrypt their data. Some other members have said that PGPDisk works well for them. I have not used it myself. I use PGP disk and it works excellently. Previously, I used Securedisk; that also worked fine (but can't co-operate with WinNT, and is restricted to 0,5 GB. Version 1.4d can supposedly manage 2 GB, but I haven't tried it.) - K - Hello Karin, I can heartily recommend BestCrypt. It works perfectly in Win95/98/NT/2000 and Linux. http://www.jetico.sci.fi/ Regards -- Manfred Ell using TheBat 1.48 Beta/6 on Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Encryption of .TBB Mailboxes?
Hi Alexander, Sunday, November 12, 2000, 4:24:59 PM, you wrote: AT I am curious if there is an option (planned?) in TB that encrypts the AT mailbox files. AT The password feature to secure access to a mailbox is well meant, but AT it is more or less useless if anyone with access to the .tbb files can AT read those using any ASCII editor. Better to stick to plain text Unix style mail boxes, at least if things go wrong you have a reasonable chance of recovering your mail, if an encrypted M$ style mail box gets corrupted you lose the lot. If someone has access to your PC there is no *real* security with any system. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/6 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Sorting by Subject AND Date
Hello TBUDL, I've only been using The Bat! for about 3 weeks now and I've been looking in the Help file and I have looking under Dates and Sorting in the FAQ but I can't seem to find any reference if you can sort the messages in your individual mail folders by first the Subject and second by Date. This way on some of my mailing lists the original email message would stay at the top of the thread not somewhere in the middle. -- Thanks, Lynn mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Sorting by Subject AND Date
Hi Lynn, On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 23:24:15 -0600GMT (13/11/2000, 13:24 +0800GMT), Lynn Kucera wrote: LK I've only been using The Bat! for about 3 weeks now and I've been LK looking in the Help file and I have looking under Dates and Sorting in LK the FAQ but I can't seem to find any reference if you can sort the LK messages in your individual mail folders by first the Subject and LK second by Date. This way on some of my mailing lists the original LK email message would stay at the top of the thread not somewhere in the LK middle. If you only sort by subject, wouldn't the mails with the same subject automatically be sorted in the order they arrived? Another way you might want to try is threading by subject. In the message list menu, use View / View Threads by... Depending on whether the members of the mailing lists use a decnet email client, threading by reference might even be better than by subject. Try it out. HTH. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.47 Halloween Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Encryption of .TBB Mailboxes?
Hello Januk, Sunday, November 12, 2000, 10:59:40 PM, you wrote: JA No. TB used to use some encryption, but that was very weak, so they JA removed all encryption. It is now up to the user to get a 3rd party JA program to encrypt their data. Some other members have said that JA PGPDisk works well for them. I have not used it myself. Well, I don't think that this is the appropriate solution. I am myself a cryptology freak and it is more than easy to implement a secure block cipher in CBC mode like Rijndael or Serpent. Dr. Brian Gladman published optimized implementation sources as public domain on his page (www.http://www.btinternet.com/~brian.gladman/cryptography_technology/) I find it a bit drastic to install something like PGPDisk (with all its drivers) just to encrypt a few mail files. JA That's exactly right. It is not meant to be any more secure than the JA Windows password you enter on Win9x. It is very easy to work around. JA The password is only meant to keep casual peepers away, such as JA coworkers while you're on a coffee break. Uhm, sorry I have to disagree. It is true that you can break the Win9x password with relatively little effort, but only because MS did a bad job in implementing a good (RC4) cipher. .pwl files where well suited for a known-plaintext attack as the 20 first bytes are completely predictable. RC4 is a stream cipher, it generates a long pseudo random stream that it uses to XOR the data byte by byte. This isn't necessarily weak encryption if you don't use the same stream twice: however Win9x does, every resource is XORed with the same pseudo random stream. What's more the 20 first bytes is easy to guess. JA moderator nag sent by Marck D. Pearlstone on November 10, 2000? It JA isn't in the archives yet, but I can send you a copy off list if you JA like. well sorry, next time I got that right :) So please, makers of TB, I know you have a lot on the users' wish list, but implementing encryption of the mail files should go fairly quick. -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
