Re: A feature with Win 2000 amd eml files
Hi David, On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:44:47 +GMT (16/11/2000, 15:44 +0800GMT), David Elliott wrote: DE It keeps an associating the eml files with OutLook Express. Just about DE every time I start The Bat! I have to associate the files. DE I want keep the files attached to The bat! Open Windows Explorer and look around in the menus. Somewhere there is a submenu item which lets you chose and change file associations. Find ".eml" and see that it is associated with OE - you can change this to TB accordingly. Once you have found this submenu item, please advise me where it is, as I also have a wrong file association on my box (my mistake), but since all my menus and submenus are in Chinese, I don't know where this [adjective censored] menu item is. :-( PS: This reply applies to Win98. I have no idea whether it is the same in W2K. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.47 Halloween Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Avoiding download for particular e-mails
Can I configure TheBat that e-mail with certain sender address (or words in body of message) do not download at all? Can I configure TheBat that it removes that messages immeadiately on server of my ISP? Thanks. Best regards, epp __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: A feature with Win 2000 amd eml files
Hi Thomas, Once you have found this submenu item, please advise me where it is, as I also have a wrong file association on my box (my mistake), but since all my menus and submenus are in Chinese, I don't know where this [adjective censored] menu item is. :-( Why do you use a Chinese OS it you can't read it?! :-) PS: This reply applies to Win98. I have no idea whether it is the same in W2K. Win2k: Windows Explorer - Tools - Folder Options - File Types In Win98 (long time no use...) I think it's under "View" at the bottom, which is probably the third menu from the left in the Win-Explorer. But I am not sure. Greetings, Alexander -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Avoiding download for particular e-mails
Hi epp, On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:04:52 +0100GMT (16/11/2000, 01:04 +0800GMT), epp wrote: e Can I configure TheBat that e-mail with certain sender address (or words in e body of message) do not download at all? Can I configure TheBat that e it removes that messages immeadiately on server of my ISP? Yes. Check out Account / Sorting Office / Selective Download. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.47 Halloween Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: A feature with Win 2000 amd eml files
Hi Alexander, On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:43:28 +0100GMT (16/11/2000, 16:43 +0800GMT), Alexander Levenetz wrote: AL Why do you use a Chinese OS it you can't read it?! :-) Good question: when I arrived in Taiwan, they proudly presented this brand-new PC to me, with Windows pre-installed. Little did they think that there are people out there in world who cannot read Chinese... This is the true reason. They simply didn't think of installing an English version. I have since been trying to get an English Win98, but so far they have come up with an English Win95, a Spanish Win98,... I have been here only 20 months, so there is still hope. ;-) AL In Win98 (long time no use...) I think it's under "View" at the AL bottom, which is probably the third menu from the left in the AL Win-Explorer. But I am not sure. You get full points for this, it worked fine, and thanks to you! -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.47 Halloween Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Archiving Question
On 16-11-2000 at 07:44:00GMT GMT (which was 7:44 where I live) Kevin Tea wrote regarding the subject of "Archiving Question" The more I delve into The Bat! The more I'm impressed by the superior functionality it has. It's a bit daunting at first, but well worth the effort to persevere. Hello Kevin, How true! As I said before: you have to learn the "language" before realising what a great software this is (yes it has it's share of idiosyncrasies). Regards -- Manfred Ell using TheBat 1.48 Beta/6 on Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Archiving Question
On 15-11-2000 at 14:29:54GMT -0800 (which was 22:29 where I live) Januk Aggarwal wrote regarding the subject of "Archiving Question" Here's what I do, I have two list folders, TBUDL and TBUDLArchive. I have one incoming filter to put everything into the TBUDL folder. I then use read filters to move the messages into the Archive folder. Hello Januk, This works great if I read the messages and they are marked read automatically, but if I mark the messages read manually the filter doesn't work and the messages don't move to the destination folder. Bug or feature? And how can I get it working? Regards -- Manfred Ell using TheBat 1.48 Beta/6 on Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Archiving Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16 November, 2000, 6:50 AM, I saw Manfred's comments made on Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:39:56 +, and thought I'd add my $0.02 worth: Here's what I do, I have two list folders, TBUDL and TBUDLArchive. I have one incoming filter to put everything into the TBUDL folder. I then use read filters to move the messages into the Archive folder. ME This works great if I read the messages and they are marked read ME automatically, but if I mark the messages read manually the filter ME doesn't work and the messages don't move to the destination folder. ME Bug or feature? And how can I get it working? I don't know what to say for sure. I guess it's more a bug than not. - -- A. Curtis Martin | Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Get the facts first - you can distort them later! " _ TB! v1.48 Beta/6 (S/N CCA4F9B8) | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOhPKWfAXeSHuB5k3EQIdzACgiTi5NJxigBm2Wlh11zTGgWfz+MsAoOlG t1WSGgGkp9gyMAWzw3Q8L/AZ =yDNY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Questions about spellchecker and trash
Hello TBat Friends, can anybody help with two questions? They are no "life and death" matters, but I'm curious. 1) Spell checking: I use the spell checker quite a lot and I'd like to split my dictionary across several files. I.e. would like to store common language and some Abbreviations separate from the rest of my dictionary. The point is, I can do this, but TB! does not remember my .dic files between sessions. Every time I start TB! only the any_lng.dic file is in the List of Dictionaries. I have to add my own .dic files every time manually. Is there a way to make TB! remember my Files? 2) Trash folder: every time I move unread messages into the Trash Folder these messages are automatically marked as read. Is this intended behavior? If it is so, then why is there an extra glyph for the trash folder when it contains unread mail? Best regards -- Hendrik Thaer Using TheBat 1.47 Halloween Edition under Windows 98 4.10 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
How to reply with an email
Hello TBUDL, How can I reply with a preset email message, like a stationary in Eudora? -- Best regards, syv mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to reply with an email
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:57:50 -0800, syv graced us with these comments: s How can I reply with a preset email message, like a s stationary in Eudora? Oh definitely. TB! is where it's at for that sort of thing. :=) I invite you to read a document on this very topic in the TB! FAQ pages. http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html - -- A. Curtis Martin | Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "If it's stupid and works, then it ain't stupid " _ TB! v1.48 Beta/6 (S/N CCA4F9B8) | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOhQyg/AXeSHuB5k3EQJkxQCdFDfHCxQaF+DkfFse5K6i0nF7wzAAoPNd IsK3OwY0TJZrif4PHbeYHSqM =HM5+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: A feature with Win 2000 amd eml files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, On 16 November 2000 at 16:56:23 GMT +0800 Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about "A feature with Win 2000 amd eml files" and made these points: AL In Win98 (long time no use...) I think it's under "View" at the AL bottom, which is probably the third menu from the left in the AL Win-Explorer. But I am not sure. TF You get full points for this, it worked fine, and thanks to you! I have tried this more than once. This is as well as making sure that The Bat! is my default email client in IE. I have also exported the correct key from the registry and reloaded it. The only work around that I can think is to set up a batch file to first import the key into the registry and then start up the bat. - -- Regards, David | David Elliott | Software Engineer | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | To get my key: http://www.web-work.org.uk/certs/0x650F4534.txt | | A grajuate uv outcum bassed edukashun rote this tag line. | | For address, send a SASE to. | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOhQyxvmK8eZlD0U0EQIBGgCgtUVUN5UPoxH8O8kaWuelaGrldwgAn35y Xq9KM5Vl/RjpW1ZALqSu/Psd =f7XL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
Hi Doug, Wednesday, November 15, 2000, 11:38:47 PM, you wrote: ... I've used Becky and Calypso and become dependent upon the ability to edit the text and subject line of old messages. ... I like The Bat -- is there any chance it might get this facility sometime? Try this: 1. mark the message 2. select Tools - Export Messages - UNIX Mailbox 3. save your message to whatever name and place you choose, just remember filename and the directory you store it in (you will need to know it in the next step) 4. open this file in the editor of your choice, edit it as much as you like and save it. (Again remember the filename and its directory) 5. In TB! select Tools - Import Messages - From UNIX Mailboxes ... and choose the file you saved in step 4 6. You will find the (changed) email as new message in the very folder you had marked in the moment you imported the message in step 5 -- Hope it helps, Peter -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Constant Re-Downloading of old messages
I have a copy of The Bat 1.47 which has the same sickness that every version of the Bat I've ever used has had. If I leave copies of my mail on the server at work, a Qmail / Linux machine, The Bat re-downloads the old messagessometimes every week or so, sometimes, as today, every five minutes. This is gradually driving me crazy. I need to leave the messages on the server; how do I stop The Bat from pulling them over again? Tony -- Tony A.T. Mendina "Some ignorance is acute; all stupidity, however, is chronic." Homepage: http://www.mendina.com PGP Keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Get_Keys" -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: A feature with Win 2000 amd eml files
Hi David, [file association] I have tried this more than once. This is as well as making sure that The Bat! is my default email client in IE. Then it's most definitely a problem with OE (surprise, surprise) and therefore probably subject to flames on this list ;-) - I'll risk it anyway :-). I've never used OE but: did you create any account with it? If so, it makes itself (obviously) the default email-client over and over again. Ok, what you'll need to find is probably located under Extras - Options - General (I don't have OE), check there for the option to make OE the default client - and disable it if you haven't done so already... Make TB your default client under IE and in the TB settings. Then you may want to reboot to check whether OE has given up being an annoyance par excellence. HTH Alexander -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Avoiding download for particular e-mails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello The Bat! List, On Thursday, November 16, 2000, 8:51:05 AM, I received: e Can I configure TheBat that e-mail with certain sender address (or words in e body of message) do not download at all? Can I configure TheBat that e it removes that messages immeadiately on server of my ISP? TF Yes. Check out Account / Sorting Office / Selective Download. ... be very careful if you use regular expressions. You could do as I did and delete *all* you mail without even realising it. :o( - -- Best regards, Paulmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [The Bat! 1.48 Beta/6] [PGP Key ID: 0x3A11C042] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOhRIhCDffic6EcBCEQL6+QCgikghqjWzhTHMuE5NWK9chQ5kz64AoJ7Q vOT3EYO31fz04h1GEZAmYjwd =ogAf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Received time
Hi A., Wednesday, November 15, 2000, 5:07:05 PM, you wrote: Why not post a sample RFC header for one of the German messages. We could examine it and tell if there's an inordinate delay with respect to its reaching your local mail server. Of course, now I can't find any of the German messages that did this. All of the current ones behave normally. Here is one of several US mails that claim to have been received the day before they were created, though. Maybe you can explain what is going on with those? X-NAV-TimeoutProtection0: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection1: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection2: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection3: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection4: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection5: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection6: X Received: from ei.egroups.com (ei.egroups.com [208.50.99.235]) by eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA20192 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:26:04 -0800 (PST) X-eGroups-Return: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [10.1.4.52] by ei.egroups.com with NNFMP; 15 Nov 2000 21:25:57 - X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (EGP: mail-6_2_1); 15 Nov 2000 21:25:56 - Received: (qmail 26542 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2000 21:25:55 - Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Nov 2000 21:25:55 - Received: from unknown (HELO newsguy.com) (209.155.56.71) by mta2 with SMTP; 15 Nov 2000 21:25:54 - Received: from oemcomputer (gateway.tjsl.edu [207.110.24.129]) by newsguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) with SMTP id eAFLPgm31755 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:25:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: 003901c05014$510935e0$7602a8c0@oemcomputer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-eGroups-From: "Dawn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Dawn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:29:19 -0800 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SG1HC] FIC: Mightier than the Sword 1/1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 17af09c6dca1068cf80fe264d95533a3 *** -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/4 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
Thanks, but right now I can click on Edit Message in Calypso, edit the message/subject line, and then click on the disc icon to save it (having clicked on remove rich text (HTML) if it wasn't plain text). That's a lot easier! Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Received time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:01:10 -0800, Susanne thoughtfully wrote the following: S Of course, now I can't find any of the German messages that did S this. All of the current ones behave normally. S Here is one of several US mails that claim to have been received S the day before they were created, though. S Maybe you can explain what is going on with those? [ headers snipped ] Well there are two important header lines there: a) Received: from ei.egroups.com (ei.egroups.com [208.50.99.235]) by eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA20192 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:26:04 -0800 (PST) ^ This is the time your local server received the message. b) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:29:19 -0800 ^ This is the message creation time as usually defined by the senders e-mail client. The message took 3 minutes and 15 seconds to reach you which is very reasonable. However, the senders creation time is one day ahead of the servers receive time. Somebodies time is erroneous and guess which one I think it is the senders of course. :=) You need to ask the sender of this message to check and adjust their PC Clocks date. The time is most likely OK. - -- A. Curtis Martin | Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "On a scale of 1 to 10, 4 is about 7. " _ TB! v1.48 Beta/6 (S/N CCA4F9B8) | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOhRV5/AXeSHuB5k3EQJoLQCg3DjDd/vllSmdozrXaM9Luvi8zL8An2mh yJouBwJDr5Jd8oOHqXzgz1+X =uS2n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:14:20 +, Doug Weller wrote these comments about 'Editing received messages': DW Thanks, but right now I can click on Edit Message in Calypso, edit the DW message/subject line, and then click on the disc DW icon to save it (having clicked on remove rich text (HTML) if it wasn't DW plain text). DW That's a lot easier! You only need to do that export - edit - import routine if you wish to preserve the message headers. If not, you can drag and drop the messaage to the outbox, open the message from there, edit it and then replace it in the folder you dragged it from. - -- A. Curtis Martin | Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Flying saucers are real, the Air Force doesn't exist. " _ TB! v1.48 Beta/6 (S/N CCA4F9B8) | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOhRWl/AXeSHuB5k3EQLIwgCg9EoPfp3g3PFLBjxCpEYN/hrm374AoPx1 4sP39d6oXpINLqbvnQcMYedH =OJnW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Constant Re-Downloading of old messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16 November, 2000, 4:51 PM, I saw Tony's comments made on Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:54:57 -0600, and thought I'd add my $0.02 worth: TATM I have a copy of The Bat 1.47 which has the same sickness that every TATM version of the Bat I've ever used has had. TATM If I leave copies of my mail on the server at work, a Qmail / Linux TATM machine, The Bat re-downloads the old messagessometimes every week TATM or so, sometimes, as today, every five minutes. TATM This is gradually driving me crazy. I need to leave the messages on TATM the server; how do I stop The Bat from pulling them over again? The Bat! will leave messages on the server and not re-download previously downloaded messages depending on the mail server software. I have no problem whatsoever with TB! re-downloading messages, even though I leave all my messages on the server. The problem seems to lie with the mail server. - -- A. Curtis Martin | Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Do not fear death so much but rather the inadequate life. " _ TB! v1.48 Beta/6 (S/N CCA4F9B8) | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOhRXXvAXeSHuB5k3EQJmugCfdaKZ4RXrK+FL67A/GjntaWJ5TToAoItO AzYNaDr8NF7z/SrXuDIiaJMp =K8fh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Received time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:47:19 -0500, A . Curtis Martin contributed this to the collective wisdom of the human race: ACM The message took 3 minutes and 15 seconds to reach you which is very ACM reasonable. This is wrong ... sorry. :=) Your local mail servers received time is: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:26:04 -0800 (PST) While the senders creation time is: Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:29:19 -0800 The times are completely out of whack, because the creation time is ahead of your local mail server received time in all respects, ie., both date and time. He needs to set both his PC Clock date and time. - -- A. Curtis Martin | Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now. " _ TB! v1.48 Beta/6 (S/N CCA4F9B8) | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOhRZKvAXeSHuB5k3EQK5sACdEv+1YuCmmBi6+ORTaF6PePFRtKIAoLSN d/X+X/7nOeS2OGBwXT34Q4yR =Stk4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Received time
Hi A. Curtis Martin, Thursday, November 16, 2000, 1:47:19 PM, you wrote: However, the senders creation time is one day ahead of the servers receive time. Somebodies time is erroneous and guess which one I think it is the senders of course. :=) You need to ask the sender of this message to check and adjust their PC Clocks date. The time is most likely OK. Thanks for checking this out for me. I have a few more messages like this, but I assume it's probably the other person's computer settings causing the problem there, also. I'll just go with sorting by time received and display the created column. -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/4 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Doug, On 16 November 2000 at 21:14:20 + (which was 21:14 where I live) Doug Weller wrote and made these points: DW Thanks, but right now I can click on Edit Message in Calypso, edit DW the message/subject line, and then click on the disc icon to save DW it (having clicked on remove rich text (HTML) if it wasn't plain DW text). DW That's a lot easier! Now, if I wanted to I could join the Calypso list (using TB) and ask if I can do, say, one of the many things TB does that Calypso cannot. Thank you for sharing with us the one thing Calypso does that TB does not. It has been most entertaining. However, I'm not sure that you'll have convinced the users here that it is a better world. (TB can remove HTML because it already shows the HTML attachment, which can be peeled off by deleting it). There are good reasons that an email client doesn't allow you to change incoming mails easily. For instance, it is this kind of trivialisation that cheapens email as a legitimate record of a communication. I know now that any forwarded message from a Calypso user is as unrepresentative as those I already distrust from Becky users. Thanks for the heads up :-). Sorry if this seems a bit of an aggressive response but your postings here seem to me like a veiled attempt to promote Calypso and that goes against the list policy here. If that was not your intention then please accept my apologies for any offence caused. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Air Pollution is a mist-demeanor TB! v1.48 Beta/6 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOhRdZDnkJKuSnc2gEQKJ3wCgxzutlC99XZMwu823jHOQ748CtH8AoMlU I2d0KIleF/e547fMEZy7VUer =Qu3x -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Received time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Susanne, On 16 November 2000 at 13:01:10 -0800 (which was 21:01 where I live) Susanne wrote and made these points: Why not post a sample RFC header for one of the German messages. We could examine it and tell if there's an inordinate delay with respect to its reaching your local mail server. S Of course, now I can't find any of the German messages that did S this. All of the current ones behave normally. S Here is one of several US mails that claim to have been received S the day before they were created, though. S Maybe you can explain what is going on with those? snip S for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:26:04 -0800 (PST) ^ Time message was received. snip S Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:29:19 -0800 ^^^ The person writing to you has their clock set one day ahead. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Change is inevitable - except from vending machines TB! v1.48 Beta/6 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOhRd6znkJKuSnc2gEQKIYACeLMWGwBb4P7qc9d+WDTnlW7NqT3oAmgLT n0fAWSW0C0JDIIHYOi8gsBzo =sa4J -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
On 16-11-2000 at 22:19:16GMT + (which was 22:19 where I live) Marck D. Pearlstone wrote regarding the subject of "Editing received messages" Now, if I wanted to I could join the Calypso list (using TB) and ask if I can do, say, one of the many things TB does that Calypso cannot. Thank you for sharing with us the one thing Calypso does that TB does not. It has been most entertaining. However, I'm not sure that you'll have convinced the users here that it is a better world. (TB can remove HTML because it already shows the HTML attachment, which can be peeled off by deleting it). There are good reasons that an email client doesn't allow you to change incoming mails easily. For instance, it is this kind of trivialisation that cheapens email as a legitimate record of a communication. I know now that any forwarded message from a Calypso user is as unrepresentative as those I already distrust from Becky users. Thanks for the heads up :-). Sorry if this seems a bit of an aggressive response but your postings here seem to me like a veiled attempt to promote Calypso and that goes against the list policy here. If that was not your intention then please accept my apologies for any offence caused. Hello Marck D., You maybe right on what you say here but I *do* think that your response is a bit harsh even for a moderator of a very specific list. It is a legitimate "petition" to inquire if TheBat does what other emailers do. And changing the email is one of such things. I have requested this myself. There are no 2 equal users. One wants one feature, which the other hates. This is called: democracy And yes I think that Becky has it's nice touches, which I would like to see in TheBat, *because I want to keep TheBat*. Regards -- Manfred Ell using TheBat 1.48 Beta/6 on Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Manfred, On 16 November 2000 at 22:43:36 + (which was 22:43 where I live) Manfred Ell wrote and made these points: ME You maybe right on what you say here but I *do* think that your ME response is a bit harsh even for a moderator of a very specific ME list. Perhaps, but from what you say here, I don't think that you have clearly understood the nature of my response. Thank you for this opportunity to clarify what it meant for the non-native English readers. ME It is a legitimate "petition" to inquire if TheBat does what other ME emailers do. I didn't say it /wasn't/ a legitimate enquiry. Of course it was :-). I didn't respond to the original /enquiry/. I didn't respond to any of the responses to Doug's enquiry either. I was perfectly happy up to that point. I was mildly concerned that Doug posted his original enquiry using Calypso. Then he only replied to one of the responses he had received by promoting Calypso's features, once again using Calypso. Aren't you concerned that Doug didn't respond to your agreement that the feature is lacking? Doug's only response was to ridicule the method Peter suggested for achieving the request. That isn't constructive. That's why I was harsh and that's *what* I was harsh about. I wasn't harsh about the request. I wasn't harsh about the feature. ME And changing the email is one of such things. I have requested ME this myself. I know. I have seen the request ;-). I don't agree with it shrug, but that was *not* the harsh element of my post. Have another look at it bearing in mind what I have said here. The section of my response discussing the theory of changing a received mail was purely in the spirit of the debate. Honestly. ME There are no 2 equal users. One wants one feature, which the other ME hates. This is called: democracy Of course. And I have exerted my democratic right to state an opinion on the subject :-). ME And yes I think that Becky has it's nice touches, which I would ME like to see in TheBat, *because I want to keep TheBat*. Exactly. But here's what I think you may have missed: if Doug had shown that he wanted to improve TB, I would not have written as I did. He did *not* seem to be showing that at all. I responded as befits my suspicions and left space to have been wrong about it. BTW: I still believe that am correct about it being intrinsically "wrong" to edit received messages for filing. I also accept that I am probably in the minority in holding that position :-). - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Kids Stuff: A hurricane is a breeze of a bigly size. TB! v1.48 Beta/6 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOhRtUznkJKuSnc2gEQK2YACfX+1zf36Ex77/0exC64oZXSlzflYAnjIL 6SqxgGWCG7qtuo/9OMMNDpho =1K5D -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
On 16-11-2000 at 23:27:15GMT + (which was 23:27 where I live) Marck D. Pearlstone wrote regarding the subject of "Editing received messages" Marck, Perhaps, but from what you say here, I don't think that you have clearly understood the nature of my response. Thank you for this opportunity to clarify what it meant for the non-native English readers. This might be a problem sometimes ;-) I was mildly concerned that Doug posted his original enquiry using Calypso. Then he only replied to one of the responses he had received by promoting Calypso's features, once again using Calypso. Aren't you concerned that Doug didn't respond to your agreement that the feature is lacking? True. And I didn't check what client he was using! Doug's only response was to ridicule the method Peter suggested for achieving the request. That isn't constructive. That's why I was harsh and that's *what* I was harsh about. I wasn't harsh about the request. I wasn't harsh about the feature. True again. ME And changing the email is one of such things. I have requested ME this myself. I know. I have seen the request ;-). I don't agree with it shrug, but that was *not* the harsh element of my post. Have another look at it bearing in mind what I have said here. The section of my response discussing the theory of changing a received mail was purely in the spirit of the debate. Honestly. No offense taken! Thanks for clarifying your point of view, this is good style (and this is why you're a good moderator). ME There are no 2 equal users. One wants one feature, which the other ME hates. This is called: democracy Of course. And I have exerted my democratic right to state an opinion on the subject :-). ME And yes I think that Becky has it's nice touches, which I would ME like to see in TheBat, *because I want to keep TheBat*. Exactly. But here's what I think you may have missed: if Doug had shown that he wanted to improve TB, I would not have written as I did. He did *not* seem to be showing that at all. I responded as befits my suspicions and left space to have been wrong about it. BTW: I still believe that am correct about it being intrinsically "wrong" to edit received messages for filing. I also accept that I am probably in the minority in holding that position :-). No, I think you are generally correct on this. BUT I have had the need to edit one or the other email I have received (business stuff) not to change it's contents but to add some memo stuff to the end of it, like notes from a phone conversation. (e.g. when I sent prices to a client and then change some stuff afterwards I'd like to jot this down on the original email so that I have a record of it). Perhaps there's a better way to do. And for this I have used the feature in Eudora where I come from and I miss it here too. Best Regards -- Manfred Ell using TheBat 1.48 Beta/6 on Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
Hello Manfred, On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 at 00:01:29 GMT + (which was 4:01 PM where I live) witnesses say Manfred Ell typed: BUT I have had the need to edit one or the other email I have received (business stuff) not to change it's contents but to add some memo stuff to the end of it, like notes from a phone conversation. (e.g. when I sent prices to a client and then change some stuff afterwards I'd like to jot this down on the original email so that I have a record of it). Perhaps there's a better way to do. And for this I have used the feature in Eudora where I come from and I miss it here too. Have you tried TB's Memo feature? View - Memo Auto-View. Be sure to back up your index files regularly if you do this though... -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/6 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:27:15 +, Marck D. Pearlstone contributed this to the collective wisdom of the human race: [...] ME There are no 2 equal users. One wants one feature, which the other ME hates. This is called: democracy MDP Of course. And I have exerted my democratic right to state an opinion MDP on the subject :-). It's difficult to mix what is your opinion with a 'moderatorial' reprimand or warning. The whole message tends to be taken as being 'moderatorial' in nature. :=) [..] MDP BTW: I still believe that am correct about it being intrinsically MDP "wrong" to edit received messages for filing. I also accept that I am MDP probably in the minority in holding that position :-). ssshhh I have a folder called 'List Gems'. If I see a very informative message posted, I copy it to my 'List Gems' folder. If the subject is totally off-base with the content, I used to give it a nudge in the right direction by modifying it. It makes it easier for me to tell what each message gem is about. :=) The same goes for my shareware registrations. I register a LOT of software, being a software freak and all. :=))) I used to change the subjects to help me know which registration info is for which software. / :=) After all that's said, I have recently stopped doing all that since the introduction of memo's. I do agree with Marck's concern and memo's have provided a nice, perhaps superior means of describing what the message is about without interfering with it's content. - -- A. Curtis Martin | Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Patience is a virtue, it's just not one of my better virtues " _ TB! v1.48 Beta/6 (S/N CCA4F9B8) | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOhR5D/AXeSHuB5k3EQJRgQCg5y47TZToKF5tgBmnc18XP/s3z/QAn2Gg 0BMJMA5CpCTr4tPH+IkaM11X =Zd3T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, at 23:27:15 [GMT +], Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: MDP BTW: I still believe that am correct about it being intrinsically MDP "wrong" to edit received messages for filing. I also accept that I am MDP probably in the minority in holding that position :-). I completely agree that editing received messages leaves them tainted and untrustworthy. I would like to request that this never be done to TB. - -- Mike Yetto [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-mailed using The Bat! v1.47 Halloween Edition running on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOhR6Vtkz/SR3Uv4yEQLHfgCg4z/wqCRtFa0ve0cMpnLx1LeKNhIAnRiq iyOY79SV4fZUgTDfUh8IZM8E =++nC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Editing received messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Manfred, On Thursday, November 16, 2000 @ 00:01:29 +, you wrote the following about "Editing received messages" Manfred [...] BUT I have had the need to edit one or the Manfred other email I have received (business stuff) not to Manfred change it's contents but to add some memo stuff to Manfred the end of it, like notes from a phone Manfred conversation. (e.g. when I sent prices to a client Manfred and then change some stuff afterwards I'd like to Manfred jot this down on the original email so that I have Manfred a record of it). Perhaps there's a better way to Manfred do. And for this I have used the feature in Eudora Manfred where I come from and I miss it here too. [...] I have sort of been following this thread. Wouldn't TB!'s memo function (CTRL-SHFT-I) help you in this matter? - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D And TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOhR8hJccVS5MnN+dEQJxuwCeJjEaIQZOAl0bWVuDA2dpiaqAoLAAoLH0 FbHtSNdaCbvwJY1dLyTjL5Id =5iFW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi A, On 17 November 2000 at 19:17:19 -0500 (which was 00:17 where I live) A . Curtis Martin wrote and made these points: MDP Of course. And I have exerted my democratic right to state an MDP opinion on the subject :-). ACM It's difficult to mix what is your opinion with a 'moderatorial' ACM reprimand or warning. The whole message tends to be taken as ACM being 'moderatorial' in nature. :=) Agreed. I usually tried to avoid doing that where I can. This was one in which I could not. ACM After all that's said, I have recently stopped doing all that ACM since the introduction of memo's. I do agree with Marck's concern ACM and memo's have provided a nice, perhaps superior means of ACM describing what the message is about without interfering with ACM it's content. To be fair, I don't mind it that much. I prefer the "drag it to the outbox, edit and replace it" method of changing a message because at least it also changes the "received" time of the message from that of the original. This method disconnects the new version of the message from any pretence of being a true record of the original. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Headline - Air Head Fired TB! v1.48 Beta/6 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOhR9CznkJKuSnc2gEQKBlgCfeLgrnrA+8VLVX3XcMqh9z8Q9Ui4AoNym FBJd5WfkEBaxwloBUd0BPnqO =b0OE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Selected quote with Reply to All
Since having spotted the message on this list about being able to select a block of text when reading a message, pressing F4, and replying with just the selected text quoted, that has become one of my favorite shortcuts. I have been looking for the equivalent function for Reply To All. But I haven't been able to find one. Anyone know if this is possible? Thanks. Clif -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16 November, 2000, 7:43 PM, I saw Marck's comments made on Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:34:19 +, and thought I'd add my $0.02 worth: MDP To be fair, I don't mind it that much. I prefer the "drag it to the MDP outbox, edit and replace it" method of changing a message because MDP at least it also changes the "received" time of the message from MDP that of the original. This method disconnects the new version of MDP the message from any pretence of being a true record of the MDP original. I do prefer dragging the message to the outbox and modifying it there. It messes up the headers and more or less totally invalidates the message as you said. :=) - -- A. Curtis Martin | Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Reality is an obstacle to hallucination. " _ TB! v1.48 Beta/6 (S/N CCA4F9B8) | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOhR/lfAXeSHuB5k3EQIwoACgo37VB4WKAo++6STAMIMdmQDi458An3HQ A1YqMTki7grT0tjZTYESykVX =KioN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:22:39 -0500, Mike Yetto graced us with these comments: MY I completely agree that editing received messages leaves them tainted MY and untrustworthy. I would like to request that this never be done to MY TB. I tend to agree here. There are two ways of modifying received messages using TB! as it is. They're a tad more tedious than what Becky and Calypso provide, but this should be the case since making it easy for the passing user encourages the practice rather than discourage it. Incoming messages shouldn't be modified ..but .. if you must do it, it can be done. :=) - -- A. Curtis Martin | Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Have it OUR way. Yours is IRRELEVANT. At BORGerKing. " _ TB! v1.48 Beta/6 (S/N CCA4F9B8) | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOhR/K/AXeSHuB5k3EQLgtgCeKqQ5BTwmbI/8mCQs8wDkmihhBj8Anizf UtkcdPYvn1lLKCoNKc9nOJdZ =gmJY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Selected quote with Reply to All
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:34:50 -0800, Clif Oliver graced us with these comments: CO Since having spotted the message on this list about being able to CO select a block of text when reading a message, pressing F4, and CO replying with just the selected text quoted, that has become one of my CO favorite shortcuts. CO I have been looking for the equivalent function for Reply To All. But CO I haven't been able to find one. CO Anyone know if this is possible? No, it's presently not possible. Another way to reply to only quoted material is to hold down the shift key while pressing the reply button. I do ardently hope that the developers will make this shift operator work with the reply-to-all button as well. - -- A. Curtis Martin | Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "A single fact can spoil a good argument. " _ TB! v1.48 Beta/6 (S/N CCA4F9B8) | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOhSAJfAXeSHuB5k3EQIwCACgmde+8PNeIr7RvPVTTwu1TJa0Oz8AoOwv OKDnsluLJxMAZvmL6+EWe3eL =xu7X -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
On 16-11-2000 at 22:50, A. Curtis Martin kindly wrote: On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:14:20 +, Doug Weller wrote: DW Thanks, but right now I can click on Edit Message in Calypso, edit the DW message/subject line, and then click on the disc DW icon to save it (having clicked on remove rich text (HTML) if it wasn't DW plain text). You only need to do that export - edit - import routine if you wish to preserve the message headers. If not, you can drag and drop the messaage to the outbox, open the message from there, edit it and then replace it in the folder you dragged it from. But that will change the message-id, which is something you don't always want. Doug, if the only thing that you want to get rid of is the html, there often is an easier solution within TB: When you open a html-message, you'll often (not always) see small tabs at the end of the message. Click on the first tab and you'll get the cleared body with an attachment on the left side of the body itself, in the shape of a netscape / explorer icon. You can right-click the icon and delete it. Voilà: the message is permently cleared of html. - K - -- Censors tend to do what only psychotics do. They confuse reality with illusion. - David Cronenberg in an interview -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: A feature with Win 2000 amd eml files
Hi David, On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:17:26 +GMT (17/11/2000, 03:17 +0800GMT), David Elliott wrote: DE I have also exported the correct key from the registry and reloaded DE it. The only work around that I can think is to set up a batch file to DE first import the key into the registry and then start up the bat. I don't get it - you need to import a registry key every time you start up TB? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.47 Halloween Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
