Re: REGEXP-Definitions (was: Templates)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Januk Aggarwal ! On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 22:18:28 -0800 GMT your local time, which was 27.01.2001, 07:18 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote: Perhaps you should try to tackle something a little easier first. Haha, I started with regex using your example of date-conversion /DD/MM into MMDD from beginning of January. It doesn't matter with what you start: all regex are difficult the first time [SETPATTREGEXP explanation] JR %REGEXPBLINDMATCH That tells TB what text to look at using the regular expression defined by %SETPATTREGEXP CMIIW, as far as I understood the thing %REGEXPBLINDMATCH is used for replacement with SUBPATT of the matching text and %REGEXPMATCH is used to replace with the whole matching text ?? Am I right? - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.49c PGP-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - Erwerbsregel #8 Nur ein Narr verpasst eine gute Gelegenheit. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for authentication purposes ! Gerd Ewald iQA/AwUBOnKRKUy/sHrVbGGHEQIchgCglej6S95215FlLN9qx33ILTMGOlAAoMX5 QY3TtOQRFAmdYZZEur45IOyq =DHBI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Old Bat bug!
Hi Bat Fans, The focus in my message list pane shifts unexpectedly to the right from time to time, and then thinks that this is the default setting. I seem to remember reading about this here many months ago, and a promise it would be fixed "real soon now" If I have a look at another folder, then back to the offending folder, this problems sometimes seems to be fixed for a while - sometimes not. What is the latest in fixing this bug? BTW, what is the macro to reveal my Bat! serial number in the sig. below? -- TIA Regards, John Phillips Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.49 Windows 98 Build A If Ayn Rand was so smart, how come she couldn't spell? -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering/Sorting Forwarded and Redirected Messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Abigail, On 27 January 2001 at 20:55:43 -0800 (which was 04:55 where I live) Abigail Marshall wrote and made these points: AM Ideally, I would want it to be that when I forward a message, the AM original is sent to a subfolder that says "forwarded messages" - in AM turn, the subfolder properties would be set to automatically delete AM messages after a certain time frame. Well, how about this idea. It sounds to me like there are a finite number of regular destinations for forward / redirect. How about setting up a manual filter for each, each filter having its own hotkey. These manual filters can redirect, forward with a specific template, move, delete, do whatever you want in the "Action" section. Just press the requisite hotkey and you're done. Would that help? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOnKnnjnkJKuSnc2gEQJwlACg6r24z3Giu1W6fTjgn7rRsgIAUOcAoLKs lToTh1nqOxnFcGDw2MbfNtkN =AYjO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering Bug (or feature?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, On 25 January 2001 at 06:47:54 +1100 (which was 19:47 where I live) John Phillips wrote and made these points: JP When I receive mail by Bat!, it is sometimes filtered with "Re:" JP first, then the first message somewhere lower down in the thread. JP I have tried various "filter by / view by" combinations. JP How can I fix this? I always view my mail sorted by Received time (descending) and threaded by reference. This method will have the least failures, I think. If you have incoming mail that is subject to random delays then Created time (desc) may be a better sort order with the caveat that you are at the mercy of the originator's clock accuracy. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOnKq+TnkJKuSnc2gEQLaWgCfSp90pPR55ijxE83Pevupi+Lo3kEAn2gR bxYbZ3JOu67ISFZcVWxDyPdB =wsnV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Old Bat bug!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, On 27 January 2001 at 21:26:38 +1100 (which was 10:26 where I live) John Phillips wrote and made these points: JP The focus in my message list pane shifts unexpectedly to the right JP from time to time, and then thinks that this is the default JP setting. JP I seem to remember reading about this here many months ago, and a JP promise it would be fixed "real soon now" JP If I have a look at another folder, then back to the offending JP folder, this problems sometimes seems to be fixed for a while - JP sometimes not. It's about the columns selected for display being too wide for the window and the focus moving to a column which is not fully on screen. When this happens, the screen scrolls sideways to accommodate it. The "fixed for a while" phenomenon is about selecting a different column while in the other folder and which folders have what columns on show at what widths. JP What is the latest in fixing this bug? AFAIAC it is not a bug. It is by design. To "fix" it you have to change your column layout, reducing the width of some columns or omitting some columns completely so that scrolling is avoided. Having said that, when you expand threads, the subject column gets wider and wider until the same horizontal scroll kicks in again. JP BTW, what is the macro to reveal my Bat! serial number in the sig. JP below? %THEBATSERIALNUMBER - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOnKxNTnkJKuSnc2gEQL2BQCgxdIlDaqiNQjasbQwa3fyQy/N5/4AnRfz Rhi/2Uzut9MT+34qLVYDltQb =Kw02 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Moving Folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 22:14:45 -0800, Januk graced us with these comments: AM Focus on the message list. Hit CTRLA, then CTRLv; select the AM target folder and go. JA Just add CTRL* before CTRLA so you expand all threads first. JA Otherwise you get the one layer at a time effect. Ooops. Yes, that's right. Thanks for the correction. :=) - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TB(UDL|BETA|TECH)] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49c | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOnK1elfJ62ArBxfiEQKTFACg28aTrSV3Uqa6tH/NkaTaCYOBS40AnjRP vGsaoqNpgYqQi8e1bHPlqFRv =l3+k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering/Sorting Forwarded and Redirected Messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:49:02 +, Marck contributed this to our collective wisdom: AM Ideally, I would want it to be that when I forward a message, the AM original is sent to a subfolder that says "forwarded messages" - AM in turn, the subfolder properties would be set to automatically AM delete messages after a certain time frame. MDP Well, how about this idea. It sounds to me like there are a MDP finite number of regular destinations for forward / MDP redirect. How about setting up a manual filter for each, MDP each filter having its own hotkey. That's a good idea. A single manual filter should do it if a hot key is being used. You can disable the 'check the selected message against this rule' option so that the filter rules actions are applied to *any* message when you hit the hot key. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TB(UDL|BETA|TECH)] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49c | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOnK4VFfJ62ArBxfiEQKZ4ACeL9vxjLsNalLQP/pbk3ee/igDBtQAoPzO ZmMFKMOMYnfZpVhvaUzIgAZl =dUfS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Using a template to strip
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Januk Aggarwal ! On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 22:51:34 -0800 GMT your local time, which was 27.01.2001, 07:51 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote: PMFJI, I have a question concerning your regex. As I told in one of my postings earlier I started to learn regex. So there are some questions every now and then. Sorry for that! I divided your regex in parts, which I can and can not explain. regexp %SETPATTREGEXP= "(?is) What does this mean? Is the meaning of "?" in brackets different? Isn't this SubPatt1 by definition? .* find any character, occurrence 0-infinity (^Credit\s*Card.*?$) Find any word starting with "Credit", followed by 0-inf. whitespaces, followed by the word "Card", followed by any character, occurrence 0-inf. Again the "?" which normally means 0-1 occurrence of the character, but this doesn't make sense here to me. Definition of ?All is stored in a SubPatt . .*payment\s*of\s* This could be explained as the last paragraph; I omit this. (.*?\n) Here we are again: "?". At least: it has to be followed by a newline to be matched. "%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%TEXT"%SUBPATT="1"%SUBPATT="2" Well, obviously the first bracket-pair does not give value for the first SubPatt. So it has to have a different meaning. Could you give me a hint? TIA. If this is too special for this mailing-list (maybe this belongs to TB-Techie), please let me know. Thanks ! - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.49c PGP-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - I asked Mom if I was a gifted child... she said they certainly wouldn't have paid for me. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for authentication purposes ! Gerd Ewald iQA/AwUBOnKvk0y/sHrVbGGHEQIIPQCaA1njz+ZaIYFsbmqedXoSIq4QhsEAoO20 Rwere4vlPb7TejH5xnIhoy2W =90Yn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Using a template to strip
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:22:46 +0100, Gerd wrote these words of wisdom: ...snip... GE If this is too special for this mailing-list (maybe this belongs GE to TB-Techie), please let me know. Thanks ! Aaah! You took the words out of my mouth. Yes, please move this discussion to TBTECH. It was created for just this sort of thing. Thanks. :=) - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TB(UDL|BETA|TECH)] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49c | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOnK/HFfJ62ArBxfiEQKrMACg+PI0mydZvuE5rb1cqGWVgm8ZbkwAmQHK b9bOdBO38ubHBUsOgOqIH2FB =73SW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers
Hi there Douglas, Going back 06:22 27.01.2001. when you uttered the following thoughts: Don't use the above. Use only the following. Nope, sorry, you're wrong. SMTP AUTH is what he wants to use, and what he set in his GMX properties on the web site. GMX supports it: gatekeeper:~ # telnet mail.gmx.net 25 Trying 194.221.183.20... Connected to mail.gmx.net. Escape character is '^]'. 220 GMX Mailservices ESMTP EHLO pp 250-GMX Mailservices 250-AUTH=LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN 250-PIPELINING 250 8BITMIME QUIT 221 GMX Mailservices Connection closed by foreign host. gatekeeper:~ # Cheers, Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Enough research will tend to support your theory. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Moving Folders
Hello Januk, On Saturday, January 27, 2001 22:14:45 [ -0800 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Moving Folders': Januk Just add CTRL* before CTRLA so you expand all threads first. Januk Otherwise you get the one layer at a time effect. Because of this I discovered I had re-assigned CTRL-A to another use. Its now back where it belongs. Double thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers
Hello Douglas, On Saturday, January 27, 2001 23:22:48 [ -0600 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers': JR POP.GMX.co.uk JR MAIL.GMX.co.uk Douglas Both are correct. JR Authentication: Douglas Use only the following. JR Use POP before SMTP authentication Douglas I forgot to mention that the user should be the number you Douglas received (remember that you need use pop before smtp). Thanks, Douglas. Appreciate the help. I tried everything everyone suggested without success. From the gitgo I was able to retrieve msgs but never once able to access the GMX SMTP server. I've un-subscribed from GMX. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Johannes, On 27 January 2001 at 14:13:39 +0100 (which was 13:13 where I live) Johannes Posel wrote and made these points: This one is getting very techy ... please can you move any responses to TBTECH. JP Hi there Douglas, JP Going back 06:22 27.01.2001. when you uttered the following thoughts: Don't use the above. Use only the following. JP Nope, sorry, you're wrong. SMTP AUTH is what he wants to use, and what JP he set in his GMX properties on the web site. GMX supports it: JP gatekeeper:~ # telnet mail.gmx.net 25 JP Trying 194.221.183.20... JP Connected to mail.gmx.net. JP Escape character is '^]'. JP 220 GMX Mailservices ESMTP JP EHLO pp JP 250-GMX Mailservices JP 250-AUTH=LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN JP 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN JP 250-PIPELINING JP 250 8BITMIME JP QUIT JP 221 GMX Mailservices JP Connection closed by foreign host. JP gatekeeper:~ # JP Cheers, JP Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOnLXOjnkJKuSnc2gEQJCLQCcCMuBwVImAF7kEv65X5XiBWNv66cAoNlx 9UPRZQx/lIW0kxHfsSEXVmvT =93od -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
TB! v1.49 - Hot Key Assignments
Hello TBUDListers. Does anyone know if it is possible to assign a hot key combination to to call a Quick Template? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re:TB! v1.49 - Hot Key Assignments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jan, Saturday, January 27, 2001, 9:35:24 AM, you wrote: JR Does anyone know if it is possible to assign a hot key combination to JR to call a Quick Template? As far as I know, the only "hot key combination" to call up a quick template is to press the Control + Space bar combination while the cursor is positioned in from of the quick template name. Then, TB! automatically expands your message with the entire template. That's all I know, sorry. - -- - - Gerrymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Running The Bat! v1.49c (Personal) on Windows 98 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Digitally Signed. - My PGP key ID is: 0x57F28ABC iQA/AwUBOnLjuBalOqMy8yvQEQJ/dACfQxOfYG8BJslhU38RkQgF1Rnbn+cAnAg1 HSAPcjqdpqBH3bnFkE8N78cx =XPF9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re:%TOFNAME for more then one address
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Shahar Saturday, January 27, 2001, 7:44:56 AM, you wrote: SS Hi %TOFNAME. SS I usually send messages to my favorites by choosing them from the SS little arrow near the "New message" button. SS When I choose only one recipient the macro works fine but when I have SS in the To field more then one address, the Macro show only the first SS one. SS What can I do in order to see all my recipients names in the beginning SS of the message ? I would be very interested to learn how to do this as well! Le me know if you find out how and I will do the same. Can anyone else in this list give us a hand? - -- Best regards, - - Gerrymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Running The Bat! v1.49c(Personal) on Windows 98 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Digitally Signed. - My PGP key ID is: 0x57F28ABC iQA/AwUBOnLqpBalOqMy8yvQEQJvtACeImSDB7+5PhuLvEyIO5T3sklyYbQAoNnE tH9CDhU7oPyKs05jQ8P5/2XB =3krQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Bat Bug - temp files?
I noticed there were a very large number of temp files still in my Win/temp dir. It seems TheBat does not delete them when it is done using the temp files. No big deal, but does fill up the drive if it goes on for long. ztrader -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Same messages?
On Thursday, January 25, 2001, 6:13:41 PM, Marck wrote: "Aborted" ... is there a clue there? The server keeps a list of UIDLs for messages left there. I TB seems to keep the list of UIDLs it has seen and grabs any messages with a UIDL which it hasn't seen before. I can see this quite clearly in the server logs. Pardon my ignorance, but what is UIDL? 2. The server didn't record the UIDL because it thought the downloadwas incomplete. I guess it's this part I don't understand. I though the server just keeps a list of all my messages on the server. And since the only way to remove a message from the server is by a command from TB, whether or not a download is complete should not matter, isn't it? 3. TB didn't record the UIDL because it thought the download was incomplete. That's plausible, but then the only dupe I should see is exactly the one a download is aborted. But my impression is when I see dupes, I see lots of them. But I'm not sure. As I said, I'll pay more attention next time. Thanks for your explanation. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.49c | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: OT: Tantrums
On Thursday, January 25, 2001, 10:32:00 AM, Marck wrote: ML BTW, just found that TBTECH is not listed on RIT's support ML page, though it's listed on the FAQ site. Maybe someone should ML remind RIT to update the page. I don't think TBBETA is listed either ... or is it? It is, including both the subscription link and archive link. Same with UDL. We're not actually affiliated with RIT - it's just that the UDL is approved and endorsed. So you mean the other two are neither approved nor endorsed? They don't really know about the TECH list (other than having read about it in this forum). That's why I said maybe they should be notified. I think they should be happy to list it. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.49c | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Old Bat bug!
Marck D. Pearlstone wrote, On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, at 11:29:57 [GMT +] (22:29 Australian Eastern Time,Saturday): It's about the columns selected for display being too wide for the window and the focus moving to a column which is not fully on screen. When this happens, the screen scrolls sideways to accommodate it. The "fixed for a while" phenomenon is about selecting a different column while in the other folder and which folders have what columns on show at what widths. JP What is the latest in fixing this bug? AFAIAC it is not a bug. It is by design. To "fix" it you have to change your column layout, reducing the width of some columns or omitting some columns completely so that scrolling is avoided. Having said that, when you expand threads, the subject column gets wider and wider until the same horizontal scroll kicks in again. Following from this, wouldn't it be logical that the focus swings back to the left if the message thread changes? At least if it did this, this "feature" would be more acceptable IMHO. -- MilliHelen: Amount of beauty required to launch one ship. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %TOFNAME for more then one address
Hello, Saturday, January 27, 2001, 5:50:10 PM, A. Curtis Martin wrote: SS What can I do in order to see all my recipients names in the SS beginning of the message ? I don't know of any way to do this. AFAIK, it cannot be done. How about using a regular expression which filters the recipients' (first) names from the %TOList macro? I tried and failed, but my knowledge on regular expressions is very limited. Maybe someone else would like to try? I move this to TBTECH. David -- David Buntenbroich e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.buntenbroich.de The Bat! 1.49c on Windows NT 5 0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Same messages?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ming-Li, On 27 January 2001 at 09:42:08 -0800 (which was 17:42 where I live) Ming-Li wrote and made these points: ML Pardon my ignorance, but what is UIDL? Unique IDentifier List, a list of Unique Message Identifiers kept by the POP3 server. Server and clients alike use these IDs to synchronize between seen and unseen messages under POP3. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOnMYDjnkJKuSnc2gEQJrHACggfhPPzkQoRHV3ePaR1+jtfkAGdEAn3VR ohbPLNvqx9utnFqRVyutwCfC =JpDW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! v1.49 - proper no addressee filter
Hello OK3, On Wednesday, January 24, 2001 19:14:08 [ +0400 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'TB! v1.49 - proper "no addressee" filter': OK3 String Location Presence OK3 --- OK3 ^To:KludgesNo OK3 Having Regular expressions on. Placed near the bottom of my SPAM filters, this setting seems to be working: String Location Presence -- ^To: Kludgesno my email add 1 or 2Kludgesyes Regular expressions on -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! v1.49 - proper no addressee filter
Hello David, Thanks for your suggestion. On Wednesday, January 24, 2001 16:13:16 [ +0100 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'TB! v1.49 - proper "no addressee" filter': David Strings Location Presence David @Recipient No This may, in fact work, but I've found that working with kludges is more precise. I've posted what seems to be working for me now. One of the gurus on this list may have a better way but without their input that is what I'm now using. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Same messages?
Hello Marck D. Pearlstone, On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 at 02:13:41 GMT +(which was 1/28/2001 9:13 AM where you think I live) you told to the list : ML ... usually (if not all) right after there was an aborted session. ML Since it's midday, TB shouldn't try to delete anything, and ML shouldn't have any problem remembering what's downloaded even if a ML POP session is aborted. MDP "Aborted" ... is there a clue there? The server keeps a list of UIDLs MDP for messages left there. I TB seems to keep the list of UIDLs it has MDP seen and grabs any messages with a UIDL which it hasn't seen before. I MDP can see this quite clearly in the server logs. MDP If you get a duplicate message it may be because: MDP 1. TB didn't record the UIDL when it got the message first time for no MDPreason. MDP 2. The server didn't record the UIDL because it thought the download MDPwas incomplete. MDP 3. TB didn't record the UIDL because it thought the download was MDPincomplete. MDP 4. The message got double relayed in the ISP server hive. (unlikely) MDP Option one and four both seem equally unlikely. There are MDP probably other possible reasons for UIDLs going missing, but I MDP can't think of them right now. There is: i.e. TB! on normal mode only maintain his own UIDL.DAT only (not sync with POPServer's UIDL.DAT). If you activate Leave message on Server, TB! UIDL.DAT sync with POPServer's UIDL.DAT (you may see on your MDaemon logs, TB! not issue UIDL command on normal mode, while issue UIDL and TOP command in Leave Message on Server mode). I talk to Stefan long time ago about this on TBBETA list. IMHO, there are some advantage/disadvantage using this approach : - TB! will minimize duplicate messages even if the POPServer not support UIDL (Pros) - You will get duplicate messages when you change from Leave Message on Server to Normal Mode or if you abort/cancel mail retrieval. Some POPServer having facility to Delete successful message download without waiting QUIT command confirmation, this feature called "asynchronous Mode" (QPOP, Cubic Circle have this feature as default while on MDaemon, Mercury you may active/deactive this feature). The current TB! approach will work better perfect if our POPServer support this feature. Some folks on UseNet ( I am now in the hot discussion about this on other list), mentioned that the current TB! approach much better than UIDL mechanism. It will help much for Dial Up users who have limited bandwith (low speed connection). IMHO, I have different opinion about this, for some reason : 1. Fact : not all ISP POPServer support Async. Mode (this is not RFC compliance though, and it's hard to force our ISP to support this feature due his Customer not only TB! or others Mailer that work like TB!G). 2. POPServer not only serve a little user/traffic or we only have a few messages on POPmailbox, there is an occasion POPServer very busy, on that case the POPServer will delay the deletion when the time permitted (he only make something like Watermark that those messages will delete ASAP). I prefer, if possible, TB! will have this approach : 1. Make UIDL Synchronization with POPServer's UIDL (IIRC Eudora have this option through changing his *.ini file). 2. Maintain previous UIDL.DAT (from last POP session), and re issue DELE command while skipping match UIDL (this work just like MDaemon DomainPOP engine). -- Best regards, - Syafril - ..Opinion expressed are only mine * Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL : http://www.dutaint.co.id * Created : Sunday, January 28, 2001, 1:54:48 AM GMT +0700 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Old Bat bug!
Marck, On Saturday, January 27, 2001, 3:29:57 AM, you wrote: MDP Having said that, when you expand threads, the subject MDP column gets wider and wider until the same horizontal scroll MDP kicks in again. I have noticed this behaviour as well and thought it was rather bizarre that The Bat! would widen the subject field on it's own volition. I would rather expect that I would set it at the width I prefer and The Bat! would leave it alone. -- -=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Using a template to strip
Hello Josh, Historians believe that Sat, 27 Jan 2001 at 13:12:52 GMT -0800 was when, Josh Rogers [JR] typed the following: JR Could someone translate this to psuedocode to help me understand it. Did you see Gerd Ewald's message? He broke it down into it's components, I answered him on TBTECH. If you are not subscribed to that list, let me know and I'll forward the message to you off-list. JR Am I close? JR Look for "(?is).*(^Credit\s*Card.*?$).*payment\s*of\s*(.*?\n)" (I don't JR understand this string altogether) within string "%TEXT" (which is the text JR of the original message w/out headers) Yup. Read Gerd's message to understand the string. JR I haven't the foggiest what %SUBPATT="1" and "2" is for though... We don't want the whole pattern, we only want the important parts. These parts are stored in subpatterns. The above macros access just those patterns. See the help file under - Contents - Regular Expressions - Regular Expressions Syntax (Advanced) - Subpatterns JR Also, is regexp/regexp tags necessary? No, I just use them so that the regexp is clearly delineated from the rest of the message. You can ignore them completely. JR When are they necessary? Never. snip -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I was the next door kid's imaginary friend. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Old Bat bug!
Hi Marck, Historians believe that Sat, 27 Jan 2001 at 11:29:57 GMT + was when, Marck D. Pearlstone [MP] typed the following: MP It's about the columns selected for display being too wide for the MP window and the focus moving to a column which is not fully on screen. MP When this happens, the screen scrolls sideways to accommodate it. The MP "fixed for a while" phenomenon is about selecting a different column MP while in the other folder and which folders have what columns on show MP at what widths. Note that you can use the scroll bar or ALTLeft Arrow to get back. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Ok, who is General Relativity, and what did he do with Sir Newton? -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %TOFNAME for more then one address
Hello David, Historians believe that Sat, 27 Jan 2001 at 19:19:32 GMT +0100 was when, David Buntenbroich [DB] typed the following: DB How about using a regular expression which filters the recipients' DB (first) names from the %TOList macro? You can do that, but you have to set some maximum number of names. In this case, that would probably be a bad political move. DB I tried and failed, but my knowledge on regular expressions is very DB limited. Maybe someone else would like to try? Once you get started, this type of pattern is fairly simple, but I'm not sure this is the best option. If the recipient list tends to be 5 or more, this expression will become very unwieldy. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I should probably engage that largish, grey organ lurking inside of my skull a bit more often. I think it's called a brain. -- Simon -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Old Bat bug!
Elden Fenison wrote, On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, at 13:31:09 [GMT -0800] (08:31 Australian Eastern Time,Sunday): Marck, On Saturday, January 27, 2001, 3:29:57 AM, you wrote: MDP Having said that, when you expand threads, the subject MDP column gets wider and wider until the same horizontal scroll MDP kicks in again. I have noticed this behaviour as well and thought it was rather bizarre that The Bat! would widen the subject field on it's own volition. I would rather expect that I would set it at the width I prefer and The Bat! would leave it alone. Agreed. What I find most annoying about this behaviour is when a new post arrives to a long thread and the view goes to the right. What the hell is the thread / post about before I read it. I believe The Bat! developers should look at this and correct this problem, ASAP, puleeze? -- Don't mess with me. You know how I get -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Old Bat bug!
Januk Aggarwal wrote, On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, at 13:40:41 [GMT -0800] (08:40 Australian Eastern Time,Sunday): Hi Marck, Historians believe that Sat, 27 Jan 2001 at 11:29:57 GMT + was when, Marck D. Pearlstone [MP] typed the following: snipped Note that you can use the scroll bar or ALTLeft Arrow to get back. That is not the point. You -shouldn't- have to. And this is not permanent for the next mail in the pane. -- Yes, I know I'm off topic. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Old Bat bug!
Hello John, Historians believe that Sun, 28 Jan 2001 at 09:24:10 GMT +1100 was when, John Phillips [JP] typed the following: Note that you can use the scroll bar or ALTLeft Arrow to get back. JP That is not the point. You suggested that you can *not* get the view back reliably. That is not true. I merely pointed out how do to get back from the action of auto-scroll. JP You -shouldn't- have to. Why not? The feature is this: If a column is partially off-screen, and you click on that column, then the view scrolls over so you can see the full column. What else is TB supposed to assume? You clicked on that specific column, so presumably you want to see the information contained in that column. To avoid the auto-scroll, click on any *fully* visible column. Once you know that this feature exists, this isn't hard. JP And this is not permanent for the next mail in the pane. Yes it is. See above. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I should probably engage that largish, grey organ lurking inside of my skull a bit more often. I think it's called a brain. -- Simon -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Books to learn regular expressions?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, Can anyone recommend a good book to learn regular expressions? I think someone in this forum recommend the book from O'Reilly. Which books comes closest to the syntax used for TB!? Thanks! - -- Best regards, - - Gerry Doyon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Digitally Signed. - My PGP key ID is: 0x57F28ABC iQA/AwUBOnOJMBalOqMy8yvQEQKauACg1lXS3M/t9JyF4eNOiif8pgR4smMAn036 D9b0EOtMDCuZsCWIkimpl5ls =qduW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Books to learn regular expressions?
Hello Gerry, (GD == "Gerry Doyon") [EMAIL PROTECTED] inscribed: GD Can anyone recommend a good book to learn regular expressions? I GD think someone in this forum recommend the book from O'Reilly. I had O'Reilly's _Mastering Regular Expressions_ (Owl book) for over a year, but I've only read half of it. If I, a.k.a. Regular Expression Gotcha Victim, had to recommend one, that one would be it. -- ... Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-KeyID: 0xE4D0C7C8 Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer Tel: 864.227.0750 http://www.fusionwerks.com/ Fax: 864.942.7249 ... TB! 1.49c, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Old Bat bug!
Januk Aggarwal wrote, On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, at 15:11:43 [GMT -0800] (10:11 Australian Eastern Time,Sunday): Hello John, Historians believe that Sun, 28 Jan 2001 at 09:24:10 GMT +1100 was when, John Phillips [JP] typed the following: Note that you can use the scroll bar or ALTLeft Arrow to get back. JP That is not the point. You suggested that you can *not* get the view back reliably. That is not true. I merely pointed out how do to get back from the action of auto-scroll. JP You -shouldn't- have to. Why not? The feature is this: If a column is partially off-screen, and you click on that column, then the view scrolls over so you can see the full column. What else is TB supposed to assume? You clicked on that specific column, so presumably you want to see the information contained in that column. Sorry, where did I say that I clicked on the column. I did not do this. AFAIK, all other mail clients treat this matter, IMHO - "correctly". Bat! should conform to the standard (at least in this matter). To avoid the auto-scroll, click on any *fully* visible column. Once you know that this feature exists, this isn't hard. No problem at present but will give it a try, but, at the risk of beating a dead horse, and I think there are plenty who will agree with me, why should I have to? Why can't Bat! conform to the accepted standard; i.e. view always to left of pane? Is this so hard to do? Maybe pedantic ones like me could have a choice? JP And this is not permanent for the next mail in the pane. Yes it is. See above. See above. -- I've plummeted to my death and I can't get up. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
