Re: Log File

2002-05-26 Thread Thomas F

Hello Mike,

On Sat, 25 May 2002 22:50:53 -0700 GMT (26/05/02, 12:50 +0700 GMT),
Mike Dillinger wrote:

MD> I had a problem where I was trying to send a message and my SMTP server was
MD> rejecting my connection. The Bat! told me to check the log file.  I thought
MD> it was referring to the account.log file associated with the account, but
MD> the account.log file told me to also check the logfile.  So the question is:
MD> What log file do I need to look at?

Main menu: Account / View Log (shft-ctrl-A).

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Re[2]: Log File

2002-05-26 Thread Carren Stuart

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On Sunday, 26 May 2002 at 7:35 p.m. Thomas wrote: 

TF> Main menu: Account / View Log (shft-ctrl-A).

Actually, I think Mike is meaning something else :-)

I have found the same thing he has on occasions. When checking the log
as you have described above, there is often another message there
saying "Some messages were not sent - check log for details" I too,
have wondered exactly what that refers to.



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[regex-tutorial]: Part 3

2002-05-26 Thread Gerd Ewald

Hi everyone,

this is the third part, which was the most difficult to translate. Ask
Marck, without him it wouldn't be like that. Thank you again, Marck
:-) There are some very long regular expressions in this part. They
might be wrapped due to layout reasons. Sorry for that!

The fourth part will be delayed because I won't be at home for a week
and no chance to work on part 4. So, sorry for that, but you have to be
patient. Anyway, I think part 3 is quite difficult and you will need
some time to work through.

Good luck.

===Start

5. Special Elements  - Part 1

Everything we've had so far hasn't been too difficult. But this
chapter is heavy stuff. Please, do me a favour: read this chapter
carefully. Be patient! Try everything with the regex tester; get
familiar with the elements in this chapter: they are the essential for
creating proper regex. Although this may be a bit more complicated
than the chapters before, it is certainly more interesting ;-)

5.1 Quantifier

We already know to define patterns for matching single characters,
groups of characters, character classes or ranges of characters. We
can use alternatives in our search patterns. But something of
absolutely vital interest is missing - the ability to define
repetitions.

You remember the example that was a regex to search for the European
formatted date:

"\d\d\.\d\d\.\d\d\d\d"

For every single digit we wrote "\d". Isn't there another way, much
simpler than repeating the metacharacter as often as the regex wants
to find the character? Yes, there is! There are quantifiers!

+ * ? are the most important quantifiers. 


The "+"-character means that the character preceding the plus-sign has
to appear at least once at the specific point of the string. "fo+l"
matches 'fool', 'fol' and 'fol'. "Re:\s+", for example, means that
at least one whitespace has to follow 'Re:' to be matched.

I hear some of you experts: yes, the usage of quantifiers is not only
restricted to characters. You can use them to repeat metacharacters,
character classes and some other elements we are yet to learn. ;-)

The star "*" represents any number of occurrences of the preceding
character at the specific point in the string. 'Any' really means
'any', even if the character doesn't appear at all. Ooops, what's the
use of that?

Well, let's have a look at the following example:  "Re:\s*\w+" 

Huh, that already looks as cryptic as those regex the experts use .
What does this regex mean?

Search for a 'Re' followed by a colon. Then any number of whitespace
characters may appear - even no spaces at all. What for? In proper
subject lines there should be a space. But imagine we would like to
match any subject string even if someone modified it manually and
deleted the space. We have to tell the regex that there might or might
not be a space. Anyway, both possibilities should be found. This can
be done with the star as quantifier. Well, finally, there has to be at
least one alphanumeric character.

Caution: the meaning of this quantifier is sometimes misinterpreted.
Look at the following task: a regex has to be defined that matches
only lines of a string with only digits in it. One solution I saw was:
"^[0-9]*$"

But this regex matches void lines as well; the star stands for 'no
digit' as well as for 'any digit'. So the regex machine returns TRUE
when no digit is in a line. If you want to make sure that there is at
least one digit in a line you have to use the plus-sign: "^[0-9]+$".

The question mark means that the preceding character may appear once
or not at all at the specific point of the string. A bit like the star
only that the number of occurrence has the maximum '1'. "h..?s"
matches 'hers', 'hips' and 'his' or 'has'. Within 'house' it matches
'hous'; within 'hose' it matches 'hos'.

There is another way to define repetitions: "{x,y}" This is a way to
explicitly define how many repetitions of the preceding characters you
want. In this formula 'x' denotes the minimum number and 'y' the
maximum number necessary for the preceding character. "\d{2,4}" means
that only two to four digits in a row are matched.

If you omit the second number 'y' but leave the comma in the curly
brackets "{x,}", then there is no upper limit and the minimum is
x-times the preceding character. "\w{3,}" matches any string with at
least three word-characters.

If you omit not only the second number but the comma as well "{x}",
then this means the exact number of appearances of the preceding
character. "\d{6}" matches exactly six digits. This quantifier gives
us a new way to write our regex that matches European formatted dates
: "\d{2}\.\d{2}\.\d{4}"

The three quantifiers I introduced at the beginning of this chapter
are simply special ways to write one of the following regex:
{0,1} = ?
{1,} = +
{0,} = *

Before I can tell you more about quantifiers and what has to be kept
in mind when using them, I have to introduce parentheses (round
brackets) as a grouping device.


5.2 Grouping of Elements,

Re: Log File

2002-05-26 Thread Thomas F

Hello Carren,

On Sun, 26 May 2002 20:03:01 +1200 GMT (26/05/02, 15:03 +0700 GMT),
Carren Stuart wrote:

CS> I have found the same thing he has on occasions. When checking the log
CS> as you have described above, there is often another message there
CS> saying "Some messages were not sent - check log for details" I too,
CS> have wondered exactly what that refers to.

It does refer to the log I described, I believe. You see, only one
line is visible in the log panel (the status line at the bottom,
toggle on/off with shft-crtl-L or in the main window at View / Log
Panel). The above error message should be visible in this log panel.
When you see it, you know you should open the complete log.

This is the way I understand it.

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Re: Version chaos

2002-05-26 Thread Gerard


ON Saturday, May 25, 2002, 4:15:42 PM, you wrote:


LT> In the middle of this I migrated from an NT4 machine to a Win3kPro
LT> machine, but that had no positive effect either. ^

Hi Lynn,
I found your problem, your ahead of time ;-)

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Re: Version chaos

2002-05-26 Thread sandy



> Had a strange experience a few days ago when I was surfing with Opera
> and I checked my mail in TB! at the same time

> I went back to Opera and my skin had disappeared (on Opera, not my own
> - LOL) and then a few minutes later I went to access my bookmarks and
> they were all gone. They were still in the Opera folder but not
> recognized.

Hi Dave,

I  was  running running Opera and The Bat at the same time and my skin
and bookmarks also disappeared. Last night I downloaded Opera 6.02 and
it's  ok
I  can't  seem  to  find my bookmarks (any hints how to find
them?)


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The Bat! - in portuguese

2002-05-26 Thread Philippe Landau

hello, may i translate theBat into brazilian portuguese ?

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Re: Version chaos

2002-05-26 Thread Dave Conroy

Hi Sandy,

Sunday, May 26, 2002, 5:56:01 PM, you wrote:

s> I  was  running running Opera and The Bat at the same time and my
s> skin and bookmarks also disappeared. Last night I downloaded Opera
s> 6.02 and it's  ok. I  can't  seem  to  find my bookmarks (any hints
s> how to find them?)

If you've reinstalled O6.02 over your old installation then I doubt if
you've replaced the original bookmarks file. You will need to import
it back into O. The file to import is Opera6.adr

If you've done an uninstall and then a fresh install, then you've
lost it I guess :-(
 
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Re[2]: Version chaos

2002-05-26 Thread John Thomas

s> I  can't  seem  to  find my bookmarks (any hints how to find
s> them?)


Look for *.ADR files in your Opera directory.  I had the same problem.
For some reason Opera stopped using my opera5.adr file and suddenly
started using an opera6.adr file.  When I renamed 5 to 6, everything
was fine, or was it the other way around.  Make backup copies first.
The bigger file is the one you need.  The file used is defined in an
INI file.

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Filtering using AND

2002-05-26 Thread Jon Lawrance

I am trying to create a filter that searches for certain characters in
the Subject line. I'm doing this so I cut down on the spam.

I want to search for something like:

Ä AND Æ AND ë

By doing so - and with a few variations on this - I figure I could cut
down on the unreadable spam stuff. I have already gotten rid of some
of the foreign language ones by using character sets but I still have
some left over.

How do I set up the AND statement in the filters?


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Re: Version chaos

2002-05-26 Thread sandy



> If you've reinstalled O6.02 over your old installation then I doubt if
> you've replaced the original bookmarks file. You will need to import
> it back into O. The file to import is Opera6.adr

> If you've done an uninstall and then a fresh install, then you've
> lost it I guess :-(
 
> With best wishes,


Dave,

Thanks so much I found my bookmarks and imported them.


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Re: Filtering using AND

2002-05-26 Thread Jernej Simončič

Hello Jon,
 
26. maj 2002, 21:44:12, you wrote:

JL> How do I set up the AND statement in the filters?

Simple: X&y&z

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Re: Filtering using AND

2002-05-26 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, May 26, 2002, 8:44:12 PM, Jon Lawrance wrote:

> How do I set up the AND statement in the filters?

On the first tab of the filter (the Rule tab), click on [Add]. This
adds an additional line to your filter, which is used an as AND
statement. The Alternate tab allows you to define OR statements

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Re: Version chaos

2002-05-26 Thread sandy



> Look for *.ADR files in your Opera directory.  I had the same problem.
> For some reason Opera stopped using my opera5.adr file and suddenly
> started using an opera6.adr file.  When I renamed 5 to 6, everything
> was fine, or was it the other way around.  Make backup copies first.
> The bigger file is the one you need.  The file used is defined in an
> INI file.


Thanks. I found them and imported the bookmarks.


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Alt CTRL drag

2002-05-26 Thread Adam


I know I can Alt CTRL drag one mailbox into a folder.  But would be more
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Display glitches in "m"

2002-05-26 Thread Peter Fjelsten

TheBat-users,

 I registered TheBat and upgraded to the "m" version. Now I get a lot of
 display glitches as the screen does not redraw properly. I never had
 these problems with the "c" version which I evaluated.

 Anybody else is seeing this?

 I have _not_ changed anything on my system. Graphics card: Matrox G-550
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Re: Display glitches in "m"

2002-05-26 Thread Peter Fjelsten

Replying to myself [P],

On 27-05-2002 01:46, you wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
P>  I registered TheBat and upgraded to the "m" version. Now I get a lot of
P>  display glitches as the screen does not redraw properly. I never had
P>  these problems with the "c" version which I evaluated.

The problem is mainly in the preview pane and only if rich text viewer
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Re[2]: Display glitches in "m"

2002-05-26 Thread Julius S.

Hi there, Peter,

Sunday, May 26, 2002, 7:52:33 PM, you wrote:

PF> Replying to myself [P],

PF> On 27-05-2002 01:46, you wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
P>>  I registered TheBat and upgraded to the "m" version. Now I get a lot of
P>>  display glitches as the screen does not redraw properly. I never had
P>>  these problems with the "c" version which I evaluated.

PF> The problem is mainly in the preview pane and only if rich text viewer
PF> is enabled.


How do we get Rich Text? Help is useless.
Can we also now type in desired Fonts?

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Re: Display glitches in "m"

2002-05-26 Thread Allie C Martin

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JS> How do we get Rich Text?

By going into View/Preferences/Viewer and selecting Rich Text Viewer.

JS> Can we also now type in desired Fonts?

It depends on what you desire. You're still restricted to using fixed
width fonts. If a fixed width font is what you desire then you're OK.
:-) Somehow I don't think this is so ... so I'm sorry to say that
you're still restricted in this regard.

Also, you cannot compose rich text with the editor.

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Re[2]: Display glitches in "m"

2002-05-26 Thread Julius S.

Hi there, Greg and  Allie,

Sunday, May 26, 2002, 10:12:58 PM, you wrote:

GS> Hello Allie,

GS> Sunday, May 26, 2002, 8:56:35 PM, you wrote:

JS>>> How do we get Rich Text?

ACM>> By going into View/Preferences/Viewer and selecting Rich Text Viewer.

GS> Isn't that Options/Preferences/Viewer and selecting Rich Text Viewer?


Yep, Found it  in OPTIONS on my version M too. Turned it on.
Now really confused: If Editor can't permit Rich Text composition , what's point of 
only
Viewer being so enabled??  Groan!!!

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Re[2]: thread view!

2002-05-26 Thread Chris Hall

Monday, 27 May 2002

Hi 8o4q-skup,

On Fri, 24 May 2002, at 07:50:33 [GMT -0600] (which was 1:50 a.m. here
in Eastbourne, N.Z.) you wrote:
8sxc> Hi, Dierk.

8sxc> On Fri, 24 May 2002 15:02:24 +0200 GMT your local time, which was
8sxc> Friday, May 24, 2002, 7:02 AM -0700 GMT here,
8sxc> you wrote:


>> Ok, that worked, but not as expected. Someone wrote that this way all
>> messages with the chosen criterion - regardless of the folder they are
>> in - would be shown. No, I only get those in the folder I am in ...

8sxc>   I think that what they meant was that if you switch to another
8sxc>   folder, messages will be displayed using the same criterion--not all
8sxc>   at once--maybe?

  




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Re: Display glitches in "m"

2002-05-26 Thread Allie C Martin

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JS> Yep, Found it in OPTIONS on my version M too. Turned it on. Now
JS> really confused: If Editor can't permit Rich Text composition ,
JS> what's point of only Viewer being so enabled?? Groan!!!

So that you can read anything sent to you.

Many like myself don't believe in the routine use of HTML mail. Too
much overhead for the benefits in the overwhelming majority of
circumstances. I've seen it abused and misused too much. HTML mail
used in what I consider to be the appropriate context would need a
specialised HTML editor to be composed. Just my opinion though.

Be that as it may, you should soon be able to compose HTML mail. It's
a feature promised for later versions of TB!, i.e., v2.x. 

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