Re: PGP encrypting off after saving in Draft
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote... I'v encountered, that if I write message with PGP Encrypt when completed option ON and save it into Draft then after opening it again for further editing Encrypt when completed option is OFF already This is a many times requested thing. It happens with sign on complete as well. It appears they don't store any of the encryption options when it comes to drafts. Wish they'd fix that. Dear fellow! I DON'T NEED messages to be ENCRYPTED (SIGNED) when placing into Draft ! You miss-understood what I said. No need to yell ;) I mean they don't store what you had your message set to, as you have pointed out. It's been like that for at least over a year I guess, I couldn't count any earlier, because that's how long I've been using it [TheBat]. I NEED, that TB2 DON'T FORGET state of Options Encrypt when completed (Sign when completed) Right... we all do... as I said, it's something that has been requested before. I was just informing you of that. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Reward for a job well done: more work. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP2fwtiuD6BT4/R9zEQKBrACeLBcJc+S0G+efVN2E9jh7AsIxYIwAoNTJ NxpRf1D5MH6jY+/dJdNgN0md =9hTC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: logging 'selective download' ?
Hi Rob, Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 10:52:53 PM, you wrote: is there a way to see which messages where killed on the server using the Sorting Office ?? Try to use Spampal and it's logfile plugin. This way you'll get a nice logfile of all mail(headers) processed. This log includes the mail which killed directly on the server. -- Cheers, Peter Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
Are there ANY plug-ins at all that work with TB (especially anti-spam plug ins)? (Bayesit cannot count as it locks up TB from starting at all!) What plug-ins of ANY KIND (anti-spam or otherwise) is ANYONE actually using for the BAT? I think I'd prefer an anti-spam plug-in to a proxy, spam-interceptor type program so that less resources are running on my PC. Is that sound logic? *or* I suppose 'bad' plug ins (aka Bayesit) just as likely to cause me trouble as a hog-gy program ever would! No? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Junk plug-in
Guten Tag Rich Gregory, Am Mittwoch, 17. September 2003 um 07:37 schrieben Sie: R What else are batters using for a junk filter plug-in? - POPFile (http://popfile.sourceforge.net) I looked. Not really a plug-in. It runs outside of TB. Anyone else? I use the Bayesit TB plugin from Alexey N. Vinogradov, and it selects here 99 % from all my SPAM, usually about 80 spammails a day. I'm using SPAMPAL too, but those spammails are coming nevertheless. A few mails are processed too as spam which aren't but you can train the plugin by using the TB option 'mark as NOT junk'. It should be available at: http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04em.zip -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Gunivortus Goos Dinner: Dead chicken parts and some stuff from the ground Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: When can i usae specials-mark as junk
Hi Rene, on 16/9/03 you wrote: CT Please note that the specials only work if there is an anti CT spam plugin active in the bat ( options / preferences / anti spam CT ...) Does that include Bayesit? There is no info in the help file about the 'mark as junk' setting. -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developed nations constitute only 20% of the world's population, yet consume 86% of the world's goods. (source: UNHDR 2000/2001) Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Junk plug-in
R What else are batters using for a junk filter plug-in? I use the Bayesit TB plugin from Alexey N. Vinogradov, and it selects here 99 % from all my SPAM, usually about 80 spammails a day. It seems MANY batters *are* successfully using Bayesit as a plug-in. I (and at least 1 other batter) have seen our bats not starting until we either reinstall TB *or* del/rename the c:\Bayesit directory. (Fully re4peatable procedure.) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Junk plug-in
It seems MANY batters *are* successfully using Bayesit as a plug-in. I (and at least 1 other batter) have seen our bats not starting until we either reinstall TB *or* del/rename the c:\Bayesit directory. (Fully re4peatable procedure.) I had some problems too in the beginning, one of them was the c:\Bayesit directory. After I used c:\Program Files\Bayesit it ran. But don't ask me why! :-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen, Gunivortus Goos ... Look at the world through DOS eyes! Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How is this possible
ON Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 1:24:28 AM, you wrote: RO Because the To: header isn't (shouldn't be) used for routing. You can RO put in your To: header what you like or don't use it at all. The RO destination for a message gets transferred via the so called 'smtp RO envelope' and it doesn't get saved in the message. Hi Roelof, The so called 'smtp envelope' is initially uild from the info the sender provides in the To field. Or do you know a way to send an email without a to: field ? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Talking to a golf ball won't do you any good unless you do it while your opponent is teeing off. Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message ID
Hello Thomas, 1.) I can get a free unique FQDN to be used for mid's only. How do I tell TB to use that FQDN instead of the domail of the email address? If you haven't done so, create an account to be used for usenet. I also suggest an specific folder for each newsgroup you are subscribed too. On the account Properties/General include an e-mail address using your unique FQDN. This is what will be used for generating MIDs. Then, in the Properties of each folder for each newsgroup, include the real e-mail address you want to use in the Identity tab. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62r Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: someone use v2 on NT4?
Hello Mark, MW You might think about updating your OS. Windows NT4 support is being MW phased out by Microsoft, and as of 1 January 2005 you won't even be MW able to get online fixes or support.NT4 is no longer available for MW sale through any Microsoft channel. But in most companies they will not upgrade there machines until it is absolutely nececery. Many copanies even dont upgraded patches or service packs. Wy should they? It only cost time and money... Meaning that NT will be still alive for a long time... -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message ID
Hello MAU, On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 09:53:35 +0200 GMT (17/09/2003, 14:53 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: 1.) I can get a free unique FQDN to be used for mid's only. How do I tell TB to use that FQDN instead of the domail of the email address? If you haven't done so, create an account to be used for usenet. I also suggest an specific folder for each newsgroup you are subscribed too. I have done that. On the account Properties/General include an e-mail address using your unique FQDN. This is what will be used for generating MIDs. Then, in the Properties of each folder for each newsgroup, include the real e-mail address you want to use in the Identity tab. That's a good work-around, thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Beim Roten Kreuz widmen sich Maenner und Frauen der Liebe. Manche tun es umsonst, andere bekommen es bezahlt. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
G'day Urban, Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 8:49:03 AM, you wrote: U Tuesday, September 16, 2003, myob wrote: SmartBat. [A word not in the dictionary, I see.] U Wow, I just discovered... U Neither is the word synchronise (in the Tools menu) U The word synchronize, however, seems to be correct. I guess that depends on whether you use an English dictionary as used in most of the English speaking world, or an American one. SmartBat is of course a trade name so unlikely to appear in either version. -- Regards, Bob The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Hi Urban, @17-Sep-2003, 00:49 +0200 (23:49 UK time) Urban [U] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to myob: U Tuesday, September 16, 2003, myob wrote: SmartBat. [A word not in the dictionary, I see.] U Wow, I just discovered... Neither is the word synchronise (in the U Tools menu) The word synchronize, however, seems to be correct. Synchronise is British English. Synchronize is the American spelling, now also adopted in British English as an alternative spelling. TB, being an effectively European product uses standard British English spellings throughout. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Message create date
Hello Jack, Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 8:20:54 PM, you wrote: JM Mark, are you (or anyone else) aware of any program that will take the JM output from, say, TB's address book file and then let you PRINT it out JM in various common (or even custom) Address Book formats, e.g., the JM Franklin Organizer, DayTimer, etc? JM It must be able to pick up all of TB's data segments, including the JM miscellaneous data that I currently list under Other. Sorry, no, I can't help you with any ready made program. Perhaps there will be some applications that can do what you want to do, but I guess it'll be custom work. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:logging 'selective download' ?
Hi Peter, on Wed, 17 Sep 2003, at 08:07:30 local time (GMT +0200), you wrote: PA Try to use Spampal and it's logfile plugin. it's not Spam i'm after, but bounces from Postmasters Mail-daemons all over the world after some lowlife used my account (just the name, i was not hacked or anything) with random usernames to do a spam-run :-( so i made a .txt file with all the Subject:-lines (like Undeliverable etc. in several languages) that are used in bounce-messages and use that in my Selective Download as 'signal strings'. for the moment i'm using Magic Mail Monitor (mmm3.sourceforge.net) which _does_ log the deletions. -- Rob using The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 ~ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How is this possible
Hallo Gerard, On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 09:31:36 +0200GMT (17-9-03, 9:31 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO Because the To: header isn't (shouldn't be) used for routing. You can RO put in your To: header what you like or don't use it at all. The RO destination for a message gets transferred via the so called 'smtp RO envelope' and it doesn't get saved in the message. G The so called 'smtp envelope' is initially uild from the info the G sender provides in the To field. Or do you know a way to send an G email without a to: field ? Sure. Create a message without a To: header, but with a BCC: Actually that's something that's recently being discussed and done on TBOT. Apart from that, there's no reason at all for messages to be sent from the address mentioned in the From: header or to be sent to the address mentioned in the To: header. An example of the latter is this message: I'm putting [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: header and that's where it goes, but afterwards it's being send to you, me and some more. That re-addressing is done solely by means of the smtp-envelope, after all the To: header remains the same. And there's no relaying mta that thinks the To: header should be altered. (Some insert one when it's missing, but altering is never done.) I realise that TB can't send a message without addressing it to the address in the To: header, but that's because TB is written as a normal e-mail client and not as something that does silly tricks. But it's rather easy for me to write a simple script for my mail server that creates a message with a valid To: header while the message itself is being send to somewhere else. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
Hi, Rich Gregory wrote: Are there ANY plug-ins at all that work with TB (especially anti-spam plug ins)? (Bayesit cannot count as it locks up TB from starting at all!) I'm not using any since K9 works fine for me, but I found these two plug-ins mentioned on a German TB! resource site I visit once in a while: NetPlug Spam Beta 2 http://home.arcor.de/thebat/download/netPlug_beta0_2.zip Vampire X 160-02-04 http://home.arcor.de/thebat/download/vampirex.exe What plug-ins of ANY KIND (anti-spam or otherwise) is ANYONE actually using for the BAT? I use the AVG Anti-Virus plugin. Nothing else so far. Antje Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- | Antje Lehmann | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
On Wednesday, 17 September 2003, Rich Gregory wrote: RG What plug-ins of ANY KIND (anti-spam or otherwise) is ANYONE RG actually using for the BAT? I use the AVG anti-virus plugin. At this stage I'm not interested in anti-spam plugins, as POPFile is more useful (classifies more than just spam). -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Cannot find a quick template list Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML Mail selective image display?
Hi all, like most of you I normally don't like getting dubious HTML mails and am therefore happy that TB! doesn't display images that are not embedded in the message but linked to some external servers. Obviously that's very useful when spammers send images of lonely housewives or whatever ;-)) But: there are some exceptions, for instance the Daily Dilbert Mail. I have to open the HTML attachment seperately and view it in my browser every time I want to see what's in it, meaning every day the same annoying procedure... Is there any chance that one has the possibility to select certain originating addresses one can trust so that TB! shows these images right away in the HTML viewer? If not, that would be a feature I'd wish for... what do you think? Antje Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- | Antje Lehmann | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: logging 'selective download' ?
Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 9:52:53 PM, Rob wrote: R is there a way to see which messages where killed on the server using the R Sorting Office ?? R i'm pretty sure i'm deleting all the wrong stuff, but it would be nice to R check - even afterwards ;-) Use the Account menu » View Log option.. it tells you what message has been processed and by what filter etc... -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 5:11:33 PM, Thomas wrote: TF And why oh why, if TB does recognise it as an URL, is it not TF highlighted so that we can just click on it? Now _that_ must be a question for the devs methinks Thomas...? ;-) -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
Hello Tim On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, you wrote I use the AVG anti-virus plugin. At this stage I'm not interested in anti-spam plugins, as POPFile is more useful (classifies more than just spam). I notice that the website does not mention TheBat! Is Popfile compatible with TB!? I am using K9 and assume Popfile uses similar settings, but perhaps offers more options. K9 works well with TB!. Elaine We are so vain that we even care for the opinion of those we don't care for. --Marie Ebner von Eschenbach Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 4:24:51 PM, MAU wrote: M I'm not old I'm just 60 :-(( Not at all _old_ Miguel... just older than you used to be.. !!! ;-) -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 4:27:10 PM, MAU wrote: M Smell fish in a garden? Hm, that cat! ;-) Probably one of those _really big_ black ones we have around here heading for TBOT in a hurry... am _really_ pushing my luck here!!! ;-) -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Mail selective image display?
Hello Antje On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, you wrote Is there any chance that one has the possibility to select certain originating addresses one can trust so that TB! shows these images right away in the HTML viewer? If not, that would be a feature I'd wish for... what do you think? Antje I think the whole thing is pretty half-way. I actually went to OE and set it up yesterday to take a look again at what it does with HTML. It certainly is superior to half-doing something. I feel sad that something I left in 2001 appears to again hold some fatal attraction (especially after just paying for the upgrade). Elaine When they discover the center of the universe, a lot of people will be disappointed to discover they are not it. --Bernard Bailey Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
Hello Tim, ...as POPFile is more useful (classifies more than just spam). Right! For example I use it to classify messages by language (Spanish, English) so may reply templates can 'automagically' set the proper language and spell checker for the reply. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
On Wednesday, 17 September 2003, ETM wrote: E I notice that the website does not mention TheBat! Is Popfile E compatible with TB!? It is compatible with TB, but (as you may guess from the name) it is only compatible with POP, not IMAP. I found it very easy to set up with TB; if you have trouble, just ask me for help. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v. 2 IMAP freezes program
Hi Sean, Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A what's the variable name for that string? Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Kind regards -- Benjamin Schulz There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary and those who don't. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How is this possible
ON Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 11:52:38 AM, you wrote: RO Sure. Create a message without a To: header, but with a BCC: Actually RO that's something that's recently being discussed and done on TBOT. RO Apart from that, there's no reason at all for messages to be sent from RO the address mentioned in the From: header or to be sent to the address RO mentioned in the To: header. An example of the latter is this RO message: I'm putting [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: header and RO that's where it goes, but afterwards it's being send to you, me and RO some more. That re-addressing is done solely by means of the RO smtp-envelope, after all the To: header remains the same. And there's RO no relaying mta that thinks the To: header should be altered. (Some RO insert one when it's missing, but altering is never done.) Roelof, Your right of course and I can even do that by altering the email info while it is on my mailserver, after it has been pre-processed for sending. It is that the TB! will not let you send an email without a To: address. Just for fun I could try to see what the minimal info is. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= One lesson you better learn if you want to be in politics is that you never go out on a golf curse and beat the President. Lyndon B. Johnson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Hi Thomas, on Tue, 16 Sep 2003 23:11:33 +0700GMT (16.09.03, 18:11 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : TF And why oh why, if TB does recognise it as an URL, is it not TF highlighted so that we can just click on it? TB! only recognises it as a URL when there are no square brackets. When you include the brackets in the highlighting, no URL option... -- Cheers Peter Never try to outstubborn a cat. Winamp currently playing: Motorhead - Ace Of Spades Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: VFTester
Hello Thomas, On Monday, September 15, 2003 you wrote: No, there wasn't. If you want to know what VFTester is, please ask on the beta list. It hasn't been mentioned there either, but it looks like some new kind of feature is coming up. :-) Nah, it's been here since 1.63 betas, when new message preview was introduced... -- / Krzysztof Trybowski pgp 0xE0F7733B /--/ To get my pgp key, put / / www.thebat.i.krakow.pl uin 4350719 /--/ send_key in subject. /_ Using The Bat! 2.00.6 [reg] under Windows XP 5.1 build 2600. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: When can i usae specials-mark as junk
Hi All, thanks to Gunivortus i have foud a plugin that works. -- Best regards, Gerritmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.00.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: logging 'selective download' ?
Hi Rob, Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 11:33:36 AM, you wrote: it's not Spam i'm after, but bounces from Postmasters Mail-daemons ... ... for the moment i'm using Magic Mail Monitor (mmm3.sourceforge.net) which _does_ log the deletions. I didn't now mmm, it seems you may have found a faster soultion! Logging in Spampal is really just a (nice) side-effect. And fortunately ony one of my accounts needs automatic spam-detection ... -- Best regards, Peter Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
Hi Rich, You can try spampal. It's a freeware and has lots of plugins. It can be found at http://www.spampal.org/ -- Best regards, drifthat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: newbie here, 3 questions
Hi Thomas, Full DBCS support has been promised for the near future. It sound great! :-) Squares usually appear over here when the font type does not support the character used. Try changing the font for the HTML viewer in Options / Preferences / Viewer / Viewer. The latter should say HTML Viewer instead of just Viewer, BTW. I've changed the font, but it doesn't work. -- Best regards, drifthat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: someone use v2 on NT4?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Wilfried, Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 8:49:53 AM, you wrote: WM Hello Mark, MW You might think about updating your OS. Windows NT4 support is being MW phased out by Microsoft, and as of 1 January 2005 you won't even be MW able to get online fixes or support.NT4 is no longer available for MW sale through any Microsoft channel. WM But in most companies they will not upgrade there machines until it is WM absolutely nececery. Many copanies even dont upgraded patches or service WM packs. Wy should they? It only cost time and money... Do these companies leave their doors open when they go home at night too? May just as well. Not addressing security vulnerabilities is rather short sighted, foolhardy, and potentially _very_ expensive. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2hW2Vv+PP8p0/caEQL/jACeMAGg7MJ121dsoxDH5jLOcpw/VEcAn2n0 IavpPvuXtozmoEGCPX9MYBt+ =VVmL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 6:48:26 AM, ETM wrote: E I notice that the website does not mention TheBat! Is Popfile E compatible with TB!? I am using K9 and assume Popfile uses similar E settings, but perhaps offers more options. K9 works well with TB!. I can't compare it with K9, since I haven't used K9, but yes, Popfile is compatible with TB (and any other pop email client, since it sits between the server the client - an advantage to *not* being a plug-in). Popfile works very well ime (I also use it to sort more than spam). -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:44:01 AM (GMT -05:00) RE: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins? Greetings ETM, On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 6:48:26 AM, you wrote: ETM I notice that the website does not mention TheBat! Is Popfile ETM compatible with TB!? I am using K9 and assume Popfile uses ETM similar settings, but perhaps offers more options. K9 works well ETM with TB!. POPFile is an e-mail proxy. It layers itself between The_Bat! and your pop server. POP(3) server Popfile The_Bat! Popfile connects to your e-mail server and gets your mail and processes it. The_Bat! connects to Popfile and further downloads the e-mail from Popfile as a standing proxy. Anyway ... Simplistic explanation and I hope you understand it. Doesn't do IMAP though so ... - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. This website may not be idiot proof, but at least it's dimwit resistant. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP2hmNbwi09Hs/j+VEQKZwgCfZTUAKbFUN3NntgjOB62JMrwf7zsAn0/I GgMGuEPCo07Qw0M4N68HQ9rx =th/6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: test - pls ignore
Hello Marck, Friday, September 5, 2003, 5:46:58 AM, you wrote: MDP Reply by PM as well as to list. KR Sorry, I have received only 2 messages from the list yesterday, KR and none today. I hope this has nothing to do with V2! MDP It doesn't, but it may have something to do with myrealbox delays or MDP even bouncing at the myrealbox end. Thanks. I tried a few test messages to my myrealbox address and realised that's where the problem was. I have not received your PM at that address yet. Anyway, I have now moved by sub to this one and all seems well. -- Best regards, Kittyboymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
Hello DG On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, you wrote Popfile connects to your e-mail server and gets your mail and processes it. The_Bat! connects to Popfile and further downloads the e-mail from Popfile as a standing proxy. Anyway ... Simplistic explanation and I hope you understand it. Doesn't do IMAP though so ... Thanks, DG and others who have responded. I already am using K9 which operates in the same fashion. However, I had the impression that perhaps Popfile might do more. The decision comes down to whether I want to train another puppy. Elaine It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail. --Gore Vidal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodic mail checking annoyance
Hello Pixie, Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 7:08:18 AM, you wrote: P I'm game. My current 'wishlist' however is dominated by more P conventional items like worthy documentation and bug fixes. moderator This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Christian. Please trim replies to context. Try to cut out as much of the original text as possible in your replies so that your response is targeted to specific items in the message you are replying to. You don't necessarily need four layers of quoted material to respond to the last comment made. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text, and/or the PGP signature. We have list archives for the purposes of being able to go back to view the entire thread contents. Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v. 2 IMAP freezes program
Hello Benjamin, Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 5:38:38 AM, you wrote: BS what's the variable name for that string? Using The Bat! %THEBATVERSION under %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Anne, Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 3:43:10 PM, you wrote: A Not at all _old_ Miguel... just older than you used to be.. !!! ;-) moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Anne. This thread is moving into the Off-Topic realm. Please continue this on TBOT (this message has been CC'd to the TBOT list to maintain threading.) You can subscribe to TBOT by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP and attached files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sean, On Wednesday, September 17, 2003 at 07:43 (+1000 GMT), Sean Stark [SS] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: SS But then the recipient (who is using Outlook-2000) gets an email SS that has has a completely empty body and 2 attachments. (called SS ATT31902.ATT, and ATT31903.ATT). Outlook doesn't support pgp/mime. I've experimented with it and found the only way to get Outlook to work with pgp/mime is to use GPGrelay. Then all is well. This would require the recipient having both GPGrelay and GnuPG installed. Another alternative is sending pgp messages signed/encrypted in-line. Any attached files would have to be encrypted manually, which is rather cumbersome. - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.00.6 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/aHDtRbTFvUNHmLkRApyBAKCUGK07A3mSgGo4ogFquZFPKRLdXwCgoyvR W3sh8Z9qYgNXoQ3p3QmptdQ= =JzJL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Mail selective image display?
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, Antje Lehmann wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: AL Is there any chance that one has the possibility to select AL certain originating addresses one can trust so that TB! shows AL these images right away in the HTML viewer? Antje, I think your idea is a good one. If you wanted to use a different mail client, you could do something like that now, If you found an e-mail client that was separate from a browser and that had its own internal HTML viewer, you might be able to configure a software firewall to block all Internet activity except what is necessary to send and retrieve e-mail plus also connect with your desired web sites. -- JN Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How is this possible
Hallo Gerard, On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 13:35:42 +0200GMT (17-9-03, 13:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: G It is that the TB! will not let you send an email without a To: address. Yes, it does. TB doesn't whether you enter something in the To field. Enter something in the BCC field and TB will send it away, even if there's nothing as To or CC. As I told you in my previous message, it was something I just did in TBOT. Funny thing was that due to the lacking To: header some ISPs inserted a To: header in the list message. G Just for fun I could try to see what the minimal info is. You could try for TB, I think you can't do without a sender and an addressee, but the latter could be anywhere: To, CC, BCC Or consult RFC2822 -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Mail selective image display?
Hallo Antje, On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 12:39:39 +0200GMT (17-9-03, 12:39 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AL Is there any chance that one has the possibility to select certain AL originating addresses one can trust so that TB! shows these images AL right away in the HTML viewer? First of all, I didn't test this. ;-) Create an incoming filter for your Daily Dilbert Mail that extracts the attached file to disk and let the same filter start an external program, in this case your browser with a parameter that makes it open your attachment. Since 'extract attachment' is lower on the actions tab than 'run external program' there's a possibility that the browser will be called before the file exists. Therefore it might be necessary to do this in two filters (enable 'continue processing with other filters on the 'options tab' of the first filter) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: HTML Mail selective image display?
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, Roelof Otten wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: RO First of all, I didn't test this. ;-) Create an incoming filter RO for your Daily Dilbert Mail that extracts the attached file to RO disk and let the same filter start an external program, in this RO case your browser with a parameter that makes it open your RO attachment. Since 'extract attachment' is lower on the actions tab RO than 'run external program' there's a possibility that the browser RO will be called before the file exists. Therefore it might be RO necessary to do this in two filters (enable 'continue processing RO with other filters on the 'options tab' of the first filter) Roelof, I didn't test your idea either, but it seems like a brilliant approach. If it were packaged in a way to be easily triggered by the user, and also requiring some user confirmation to avoid automated problems, it would be a good feature addition to TB! -- JN Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Wednesday, September 17, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: TB, being an effectively European product uses standard British English spellings throughout. TB is entirely consistent in this. Both the British and the American spellcheckers redlines synchronise here. -- Urban Momentum: What you give a person when they are going away. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Mail selective image display?
Hallo Joseph, On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 10:40:59 -0500GMT (17-9-03, 17:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JN I didn't test your idea either, but it seems like a brilliant JN approach. I think that's a bit too much, but thanks anyhow. ;-) JN If it were packaged in a way to be easily triggered by the user, I thought filters are rather easy to trigger. After all TB's main feature is it's filtering system. (At least that's why I started to use it.) JN and also requiring some user confirmation to avoid automated JN problems, it would be a good feature addition to TB! As another feature it would be bloatware. As far as the user confirmation, that was the part that Antje wanted to skip (or that's how I read the message). After all we're talking about something that can be done already with three mouse clicks (double on the attachment, single on the question whether you'd like to save). Be honest how much more accessible do you want the feature to be? It can be put down to a double click (when you exclude HTML from the dangerous file types) BTW Please don't suggest that TB should be able to access pics anywhere on the internet. Not even as a configurable option. Something like that is no function of an e-mail client. Any code inserted to make such a feature available makes the program more sluggish (because it's bigger), more buggy (there's no such thing as code without errors) and more vulnerable. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Mail selective image display?
Hello Joseph, If it were packaged in a way to be easily triggered by the user, and also requiring some user confirmation to avoid automated problems, it would be a good feature addition to TB! I may have not understood what this whole thread is about but, what is wrong with double clicking on the HTML icon (HTML attachment) to open the message in your default browser? I mean, why set up a number of filters, etc., and then select perhaps a shortcut or hot key to trigger it and finally ending up in opening the HTM message in the browser? As I say, maybe I didn't understand a word of what this thread is all about. But if I did... My goodness! All is needed is a double click! -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Mail selective image display?
Hello Roelof, On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 18:21:33 +0200 GMT (17/09/2003, 23:21 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: JN and also requiring some user confirmation to avoid automated JN problems, it would be a good feature addition to TB! As another feature it would be bloatware. As far as the user confirmation, that was the part that Antje wanted to skip (or that's how I read the message). I think it would be a good idea to enable downloading pictures from trusted sites. I am a frequent flying on several airlines, and they send interesting offers by way of newsletters. That's once a month, so I don't complain. Daily Gilberts is another matter, though. ;-) BTW Please don't suggest that TB should be able to access pics anywhere on the internet. Not even as a configurable option. I do. Based on a list of trusted sites. There you go. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are (usually) unnecessary. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Hello Anne, On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 22:39:06 +0100 GMT (17/09/2003, 04:39 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: TF And why oh why, if TB does recognise it as an URL, is it not TF highlighted so that we can just click on it? Now _that_ must be a question for the devs methinks Thomas...? ;-) Yes. Bug report or wishlist item? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When your dad is mad and asks you, 'Do I look stupid?' don't answer. - Hannah, age 9 Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Hi Urban, @17-Sep-2003, 12:17 +0200 (11:17 UK time) Urban [U] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: TB, being an effectively European product uses standard British English spellings throughout. U TB is entirely consistent in this. Both the British and the U American spellcheckers redlines synchronise here. Yes, but the CSAPI British dictionary is more accurate and correctly redlines synchrinize (and why are you arguing British spelling with an Englishman?). -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: someone use v2 on NT4?
Wilfried- Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 12:49:53 AM, you wrote: WM But in most companies they will not upgrade there machines until it is WM absolutely nececery. Many copanies even dont upgraded patches or service WM packs. Wy should they? It only cost time and money... WM Meaning that NT will be still alive for a long time... YMMV, but when it comes down to program x doesn't work with my OS and you *need* program x to work, I would say it's time to look into upgrading. For what it's worth, Windows 2000 is NT5. I'm not saying you should change your OS just because a new one is out there (remember WinME?), but I *am* saying that I think it's unreasonable to expect every software developer to support older operating systems explicitly when even MS no longer does. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
@17-Sep-2003, 18:24 Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Urban: MDP correctly redlines synchrinize ... ... and synchronize (d'oh!). -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: HTML Mail selective image display?
Hi Miguel, As I say, maybe I didn't understand a word of what this thread is all about. But if I did... My goodness! All is needed is a double click! I know, I know... but I'm a lazy person, you know ;-))) And I simply thought there might be a way for me to not have to open the browser every time. Since I use Mozilla on a slow computer, it takes a while to open and load the mail. And it's not only Daily Dilbert, that was just to give you an example. I receive lots of mails with HTML content that I would like to be able to view within TB! and it won't do that. I understand the purpose of that, as I already said, and it's actually a feature that gives you more security. But if it was a selective one in the way I explained I'd be even more happy about it. :-) Antje Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- | Antje Lehmann | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: HTML Mail selective image display?
Hi, Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Joseph, On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 10:40:59 -0500GMT (17-9-03, 17:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JN I didn't test your idea either, but it seems like a brilliant JN approach. I think that's a bit too much, but thanks anyhow. ;-) JN If it were packaged in a way to be easily triggered by the user, I thought filters are rather easy to trigger. After all TB's main feature is it's filtering system. (At least that's why I started to use it.) JN and also requiring some user confirmation to avoid automated JN problems, it would be a good feature addition to TB! As another feature it would be bloatware. As far as the user confirmation, that was the part that Antje wanted to skip (or that's how I read the message). Well, only if I had to confirm every time... as a once-and-for-all-solution, it would be fine with me. But: BTW Please don't suggest that TB should be able to access pics anywhere on the internet. Not even as a configurable option. Something like that is no function of an e-mail client. Any code inserted to make such a feature available makes the program more sluggish (because it's bigger), more buggy (there's no such thing as code without errors) and more vulnerable. I understand now that there are different opinions on this issue, and that's what I wanted to know when I asked what you thought about it. Antje Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- | Antje Lehmann | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: HTML Mail selective image display?
Hi Roelof, First of all, I didn't test this. ;-) Create an incoming filter for your Daily Dilbert Mail that extracts the attached file to disk and let the same filter start an external program, in this case your browser with a parameter that makes it open your attachment. Since 'extract attachment' is lower on the actions tab than 'run external program' there's a possibility that the browser will be called before the file exists. Therefore it might be necessary to do this in two filters (enable 'continue processing with other filters on the 'options tab' of the first filter) Thanks Roelof, this way I could be able to autmate the viewing process. I'll try it out! Antje Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- | Antje Lehmann | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Mail selective image display?
Hello Roelof, BTW Please don't suggest that TB should be able to access pics anywhere on the internet. Not even as a configurable option. Something like that is no function of an e-mail client. Fully agree. Many people around the world still use dial-up connections, the connect, download e-mail and disconnect and read it off-line. It is stupid if to read/view a particular message you have to connect again. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
CSAPI dictionary (was: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Hello Marck, Yes, but the CSAPI British dictionary... This reminds me that I could never get CSAPI dictionaries to work in my PC. TB doesn't even find them. Do you have any idea why this may be or any way to force TB to find them? TIA. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: When can i usae specials-mark as junk
Hello David Boggon, On Wednesday, September 17, 2003 , at 07:35:42[GMT +0100] (which was 08:35 where I live) David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: When can i usae specials-mark as junk CT Please note that the specials only work if there is an anti CT spam plugin active in the bat ( options / preferences / anti spam CT ...) DB Does that include Bayesit? There is no info in the help file about the DB 'mark as junk' setting. Apparantly is does include Bayesit (available at http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04em.zip ) this is indeed a plugin and can be trained with the bat brgds rene Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Resend with Edit
Hi Batters, Is there a way to resend an email that has already been sent (shift-f6), with the ability to edit it first? -- Best regards, Christopher Brown Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Resend with Edit
Hallo Christopher, On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 13:41:43 -0500GMT (17-9-03, 20:41 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CB Is there a way to resend an email that has already been sent CB (shift-f6), with the ability to edit it first? Yes. Move (or copy) it to your Outbox. There you can edit (and send) it again. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Resend with Edit
Hello Christopher, Is there a way to resend an email that has already been sent (shift-f6), with the ability to edit it first? No, don't use Re-Send (Shift+F6). Move the message to Outbox and then open it (Ctrl+M or double click), edit it and send. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Mail selective image display?
Hello Antje, Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 11:57:24 AM, you wrote: AL I understand now that there are different opinions on this issue, AL and that's what I wanted to know when I asked what you thought AL about it. moderator This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Christian. Please trim replies to context. Try to cut out as much of the original text as possible in your replies so that your response is targeted to specific items in the message you are replying to. You don't necessarily need four layers of quoted material to respond to the last comment made. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text, and/or the PGP signature. We have list archives for the purposes of being able to go back to view the entire thread contents. Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Carsten, However, I have noticed that direct replies to one's messages have the MSID of the replied-to message last under references - now I only need some RegEx to hit on only messages where my MSID is the last in the string of references. I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already? ((?:\nReferences:[^\n]*?)(?:\n\s[^\n]*?)*(@immer-international\.de\s*\n[\S\n])) Search in Kludges and replace [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your FQDN (»adr\.dk«). Didn't test this till today. Works a treat! Thanks :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Mail selective image display?
Hallo Leif, On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 13:16:53 -0600GMT (17-9-03, 21:16 +0200, where I live), you wrote: LG Hello Antje, LG this reply. Please don't feel singled out Christian. Who's Christian and why should he feel singled out? ;-) You're using TB and that's a great program to 'personalise' messages with macros. If you'd replace Christian in your QT with %ToFName you'd save yourself from singling out the wrong people. g,dr -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Thread Jumping
In the folder pane, it is possible to navigate to the top of the current thread of folders [using the - left arrow], and the same keystroke will then collapse the thread. It makes collapsing things and conserving display space quite simple. However, in the message list, keying left does nothing of the sort. Is there a keystroke that will do this that I am unaware of? If not, is there anyone else who would like this functionality? I often find myself wanting to collapse threads in this manner but can't without manually navigating to the top of the thread and collapsing from there. Thanks . . . -- | Peace, Be well | Allen | http://jarday.com | http://theprawn.com | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.6 | with Anti-Spam Plugin BayesIt! .4em | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI dictionary (was: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Hi Mau, @17-Sep-2003, 20:21 +0200 (19:21 UK time) MAU [M] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: Yes, but the CSAPI British dictionary... M This reminds me that I could never get CSAPI dictionaries to work M in my PC. TB doesn't even find them. Do you have any idea why M this may be or any way to force TB to find them? No, because they always just plain worked for me, so I don't know what to suggest to help you *make* them work for you. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Mail selective image display?
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 1:59:31 PM, you wrote: RO Who's Christian and why should he feel singled out? ;-) g I was dinking with the template earlier yesterday and I had cut and pasted from one I'd moderated. Forgot to fix it. Thanks for catching it. :-) -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Wednesday, September 17, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: U TB is entirely consistent in this. Both the British and the American U spellcheckers redlines synchronise here. Yes, but the CSAPI British dictionary is more accurate and correctly redlines synchrinize That doesn't change the fact that it would be a good idea if TB's interface and the IntPack were consistent with eachother. -- Urban Women fake orgasm, men fake foreplay. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI dictionary (was: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 20:21:09, MAU wrote: This reminds me that I could never get CSAPI dictionaries to work in my PC. TB doesn't even find them. Do you have any idea why this may be or any way to force TB to find them? Which Office do you have? -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ When in doubt, predict that the present trend will continue. -- Merkin's Maxim Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thread Jumping
Hello Allen, Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 4:54:42 PM, you wrote: A In the folder pane, it is possible to navigate to the top of the A current thread of folders [using the - left arrow], and the same A keystroke will then collapse the thread. It makes collapsing things A and conserving display space quite simple. A However, in the message list, keying left does nothing of the sort. Is A there a keystroke that will do this that I am unaware of? If not, is A there anyone else who would like this functionality? I often find A myself wanting to collapse threads in this manner but can't without A manually navigating to the top of the thread and collapsing from A there. I couldn't agree with you more on this -- I don't use the folder pane as I can't get it working with my screen reader meaning that I'm constantly working from the message list. When I'm well within a thread I want to keep, it's sometimes a challenge remembering how far I need to up-arrow to get to the first message on which I can hit the left arrow. Another piece I'm having trouble with is moving to the next unread message in a thread -- if I don't delete the message I'm on, I always seem to move to another thread, or an unread message further down in the thread, but that's another topic altogether. Thanks, Steve Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI dictionary (was: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Hello Marck, No, because they always just plain worked for me, so I don't know what to suggest to help you *make* them work for you. Thanks anyway. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI dictionary (was: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Hello Jernej, Which Office do you have? XP (in Spanish) running on Win2K. But up to a couple of months ago I had Office 2000 in English and TB did not find CSAPI dics either. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thread Jumping
Hello Steve, Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 3:44:45 PM, you wrote: SMS Thanks, SMS Steve SMS SMS Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: SMS http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html moderator This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Steve. Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI dictionary (was: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
On Thursday, September 18, 2003, 0:06:25, MAU wrote: XP (in Spanish) running on Win2K. But up to a couple of months ago I had Office 2000 in English and TB did not find CSAPI dics either. Hmm, I've heard somewhere that M$ stopped supporting CSAPI in Office XP, but it should work with 2k - at lease I can choose Slovenian (CSAPI) from the spell checker menu. I'm missing the English and German CSAPI entries though (I have those two dictionaries installed, too; with Office 97 I did have English CSAPI entry in TB). -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ They can't hit it while I'm standing here holding it. -- Lefty Gomez's Principle of Productive Procrastination Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AVG plug-in (Was Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?)
Antje Lehmann wrote: I use the AVG Anti-Virus plugin. Nothing else so far. Is this only available for v2 of TB? Is the plug-in for TB or for AVG? (AVG has an Outlook Express plug-in - is there one for TB???) I've been a long-time user of both TB and AVG - didn't even realize there was an AVG plug-in available! -- ken Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG plug-in (Was Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?)
Hello ken, Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 4:39:39 PM, you wrote: k -- k ken Looks like you missed the space after the -- moderator This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out ken. Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG plug-in (Was Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?)
Hello all, Thursday, September 18, 2003, ken wrote: Is this only available for v2 of TB? Is the plug-in for TB or for AVG? (AVG has an Outlook Express plug-in - is there one for TB???) I've been a long-time user of both TB and AVG - didn't even realize there was an AVG plug-in available! You can download plugin AVG6 for The Bat! from following location: ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/plugins/antivirus/avgbat10us.exe BTW plugin is already included in AVG 7.0 installation package. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.00.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I copy account views to new account?
Hallo Steve, On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 19:04:05 -0400GMT (17-9-03, 1:04 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SMS I appologize in advance for another probably very obvious question. Essentially, SMS I've just created a new account in TB and would like to copy the views from another SMS formerly-created account. It isn't very obvious. Or at least it isn't as easy as you hope it is. TB stores it info about the setup in various files. Account info in: account.cfg Filters in: account.srx Folder info in: account.flb (in 16x this was in account.flx) Quick templates: account.qtn I'd guess that the info you're interested in is stored in the account.flb file. So you could copy that from your old account to your new one. You'll need to do this while you've closed TB. However, there's one problem with that: if you do so TB creates all folders you've got in your first account in your new account too (only the folders, not the messages). Figure out for yourself if that's worth the trouble. BTW I go a duplicate from your message, was that intentional, because everybody neglected your message or was it not of your doing? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 10:13:50 AM, ETM wrote: E Thanks, DG and others who have responded. I already am using K9 which E operates in the same fashion. However, I had the impression that E perhaps Popfile might do more. The decision comes down to whether I E want to train another puppy. Popfile's a very easy puppy to train - I was getting something like 99.7% accuracy within hours of installing it :-) -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG plug-in (Was Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?)
Leif Gregory wrote: Looks like you missed the space after the -- Thanks for the catch! I would have continued to miss that one had you not pointed it out. I was using a Quick template to reply below quotes and must have set up my sig incorrectly. -- ken Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I copy account views to new account?
Hello Steve, On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 19:04:05 -0400 GMT (17/09/2003, 06:04 +0700 GMT), Steve M. Sawczyn wrote: I appologize in advance for another probably very obvious question. Essentially, I've just created a new account in TB and would like to copy the views from another formerly-created account. I think this is not possible yet, but promised for a near-future version. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. INFLATION: Cutting money in half without damaging the paper. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Good thing the heaters working...
...because it sure is icy in here. Hi again, Monday afternoon I sent a request for help, about certificates and how to successfully connect pop/imap/smtp via SSL/TLS with servers that may have certs that do not exactly match the server name or may be thier own CA or one not recognized globally as a CA. I've seen a lot of nice folk here and thought I'd never ask for help- surely it would be asked and answered without me having to. I know I'm wordy... but my need is sincere and a bit urgent, especially with my DoD-CA .mil account. I ran thru the archives again, just in case I had missed it before and found a fairly recent mention of an old message that I followed, it was about making a new address entry and importing the server cert there. That may have fixed the myrealbox issue, but not for .mil nor for cotse did it work and I have tried everything I could think of- including importing all of them into Windows certificate stores- trusted root, other, personal, enterprise trusted, etc... nothing has worked. If this is a bad place to ask, please point me to the appropriate list (maybe tech or beta, or news forum?), if this is a bad subject that noone wants to talk about- maybe it is working for everyone- or maybe there is a flaw in TB! itself so it's not responded to... I don't know- but I am asking you good folk for some help and not trying to waste your time. I know it's a feature listed in the change logs since at least December and I cannot find anything on it in the help file. Anyways, thanks for reading at least and if you know the secret please respond if it's not too much a bother. Again, thanks. -- Most Sincerely, Mark (Army RedLeg) Using TheBat! 2.00.6 on Win2ksp3 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
