Re[2]: Security concerns
rg>> AFTER TB! was installed (and after TB "knew" to place attachments in it's own rg>> default directory) I moved the attachment directory and the files within so rg>> of course now TB thinks attachments are 0-byte files and connot find rg>> them MW> The Account | Properties | Files & Directories | Directory setting MW> should get you what you want. Point it to where you moved the MW> directory and that oughta do it. No help. That was the first thing I tried. -- Rich Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! is No.1 in my book.
Hi The_Bat! Users, Sunday, November 16, 2003, 7:42:36 PM, you wrote: S> ...along the line or paragraph I can simply hit CTRL + J or CTRL + L S> and neatly and quickly reformat the message text as I go. I don't understand this, could you explain it to me in a little more detail? Maybe a "for instance" or example or twol Thank -- Regards, John Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! is No.1 in my book.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL, The Bat! is No.1 as far as email clients go in my book. Yes, I am of course biased, but TB! really is the best email client available in my ever so partial opinion. I especially like the way the seemingly quirky editor wraps text where you want it to. And I like the way that anywhere... ...along the line or paragraph I can simply hit CTRL + J or CTRL + L and neatly and quickly reformat the message text as I go. And the ability to place the caret anywhere in the editor window and just type is real freedom and makes for extremely easy composition of messages as well. In truth, it's absolutely brilliant stuff from RITLabs. And the editor is simplicity itself as well, so anyone, no matter what level, can pick up the necessary skills almost instantly and quickly compose readable email without any fuss or bother, which is what it's all about really. The rest of TB!'s features are just very welcome extras that make TB! even more useful IMHO. And a note to new users: even though TB! _is_ a doddle to use, remember that there's a lot under the hood for when you need it. - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #459. Wad Ire Sly Mrs Quo ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 Comment: Fingerprint: 40DD 7908 9DF8 634F 1B98 8849 9266 C870 DF80 62C1 iQA/AwUBP7gnkJJmyHDfgGLBEQJINgCghPgjnqJ4H5SapMmXYJuuqaOOFDoAn06Q 5lplrTVN8/wr1mfAMoL2wjLp =xbhL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MicroEditor (was Re[2]: Bat Alternatives)
RG>> Auto-format though still does NOT wrap pasted in lines AM> I explained that in my last message. Use the paste formatted option to AM> wrap pasted text. Instead of pasting with CTRL+V, paste with AM> CTRL+Shift+Ins. As I pointed out that you cut from the reply... Invoking insertion of canned text via a QT with CTRL-SPACE STILL will not wrap. -- Rich Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No default secred key error??
Hello Edgar, On Sunday, November 16, 2003, 1:50:16 PM, you wrote: > I ran into something strange. > I use TB as mail client. I have there some templates which I use > when answering or sending a mail to a mailing list I sometimes > see the pass phrase input screen for an mail address that I have > and sometimes I see it for the mailing address of the list. > Example > When sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I see my mail address. > When sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I see this mail address. > On the second address I get an error: > gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available > gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available > I've traced it to the reply-to address. > When I change this address from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I get the same error. > I've also tested it with an other account (no templates there) > When I change the reply to address the GnuPG will show the input > screen for the address in the Reply to address. > That leaves me with 2 questions: > 1) why is he looking at the reply to address and not the from >address. > 2) why will some mailing lists in the reply to address show the >right key (PGP-Basics) and others not (bird-pix). I've tested around a bit. Seems that all addresses from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] give the key of my mail all others ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) will give the error. I've made the Qtemplates the same so it can not be this. it's in the starting letter of the reply address. Even when I open a new message that just use a blanc template it will responde as mentioned here above. When I leave the original reply address it will work, when I place an letter in front of it [EMAIL PROTECTED] it will give the error when it is an o or later it will work again. -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.01.3, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book. - Friedrich Nietzsche To request my public key select this url: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using the Scheduler to send a message
Hello papadc, Has anyone got the Scheduler to send messages at a predetermined time? If so, is there anything special that I should take care and do? I tried to test the feature by sending a message to myself, but I couldn't get it to work. For one thing, I set a time, but the time that appears after I press the Apply button is two hours *earlier* than my input. Also, no message pops up before the message is sent - although it was supposed to popup according to the settings that I put in. -- Best regards, Costas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: alt-click! - small bug?
Sunday, November 16, 2003, 1:56:21 PM, the following was written: MW>> View | Display | Advanced Filtering R> I noticed something here: R> on the 'Flags' tab, it's possible to both select 'forwarded' & 'not R> forwarded' using version 2.01.20 R> Can anyone confirm this? The same in version 1.62r -- Maggiemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: alt-click! - small bug?
Hello Roel,
A reminder of what Roel typed on:
16 November 2003 at 19:56:21 GMT +0100
R> Can anyone confirm this?
Yes.
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Re: alt-click! - small bug?
Hi Mark On 13 Nov 2003 20:21:38 (my local time 14 nov 2003 05:21:38), Mark Wieder wrote: MW> View | Display | Advanced Filtering I noticed something here: on the 'Flags' tab, it's possible to both select 'forwarded' & 'not forwarded' using version 2.01.20 Can anyone confirm this? -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zum Antworten bitte Lederhosen entfernen Things working well, no problems. Time to upgrade. Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Archiving again!
Hello Frank, Saturday, November 15, 2003, 2:10:59 PM, you wrote: FJdB> I got the same thing and I've fiddled around a little. I got rid FJdB> off the error message by also specifying a valid folder name in FJdB> the normal deletion field. FJdB> This allowed me to close the window without error message. FJdB> Afterwards I set the normal deletion back to the default. Thanks, that fixed it for me, must be a little buglet in there somewhere -- Best regards Barry Using TB version 2.01.3 Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security concerns
Hi Roelof, @16-Nov-2003, 15:43 +0100 (16-Nov 14:43 UK time) Roelof Otten said to Marck: > Of course complaining about abuse by someone else would be like > complaining about a burglar after you've left your front door open > with a note on your window that you're gone. Precisely - and, again, hardly a "newbie - out of the box" vulnerability. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.01.26 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security concerns
Hallo Marck, On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 03:44:53 +GMT (16-11-03, 4:44 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MDP> Yes, I am completely aware of how naive end users can be, but MDP> WADR no "average windows user" is going to: MDP> 1) Run TB and... MDP> 2) Write their own macro based templates... MDP> 3) that include lumps of macro code... MDP> 4) read from files... MDP> 5) that live in an attachments folder. MDP> This scenario is so many times removed from reality, that it's the MDP> computing equivalent of operating a children's playground at the top MDP> of a 1000ft cliff with no fence and a slide that ends at the edge of MDP> the chasm. I totally agree with you on this subject, but there's another way to execute macros from a distance. As I suggested in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] it's possible to create a filter that writes the receiving message to file and uses that same file as a template for a reply. I suggested that as a way to remote control TB to collect files from your own pc to your current location. Likewise it would be rather easy to have a filter save the message as a batch file that's executed by the same filter. The only next thing you need is to be careless about the password you're using with that feature (the filter conditions) and you could be way over your head in trouble. That's more likely than your scenario. Especially since it's already in the list archive. Of course complaining about abuse by someone else would be like complaining about a burglar after you've left your front door open with a note on your window that you're gone. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: auto html new and reply messages
Hello Ben, On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:50:53 + GMT (15/11/2003, 08:50 +0700 GMT), Ben Allen wrote: > Normally i use just good old plain text for my mailing. However > someone who i mail regularly cant look at a white screen (makes > them feel very ill no need for further details i guess). As he has this problem permanently, I wonder whether he uses an email client with which he can set the default background colour. Such as The Bat. > So what i normally do when sending mail is manually reply then > select the option of using html so i can get a non white > background. Was wondering if there was a way of automating this > process for example selecting html in the address book templates. No, it's not possible to choose the editor by way of template macro, but it may be a good item for the wish-list. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. "And now excuse me while I interrupt myself..." Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.26 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
auto html new and reply messages
Howdy tbudl, Normally i use just good old plain text for my mailing. However someone who i mail regularly cant look at a white screen (makes them feel very ill no need for further details i guess). So what i normally do when sending mail is manually reply then select the option of using html so i can get a non white background. Was wondering if there was a way of automating this process for example selecting html in the address book templates. (when it comes down to it i am a fundamentally lazy person) -- Have Fun, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
bayes & spamcop
well, just an observation, but I kinda like the way these 2 work together. With Bayes filter plugin 0.1.2 putting all the SPAM in the JUNK folder, it is so easy to just open that folder and CTRL-ALT-S the messages to spamcop all at once. in OLDER versions of TB, when TB got back the email from Spamcop to complete the action, the DOS window would open, you had to finish that web page, close it, and the next spamcop dosbox would open well, I just sent 19 emails to spamcop, and 2 minutes later I had 19 web pages open up, all at once. click, send..click, send.. nice! so now I can train my bayes filter and still use spamcop! -- -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.26 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 see Kludges for PGP key pgp key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&Body=Please%20send%20keys Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security concerns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Rich, On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:42:48 -0500 your time, you said: rg> I ask because (though TB! does do stuff I've told it to in it's rg> macro language) my primary concern, I suppose, is that someone may rg> SEND ME a TB macro that gets executed. I do believe this area has been well explored so I really wouldn't worry about it. And you say in: MID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] rg>> ...I [...] have my attachments directory set to a non-default rg>> name and location ... rg> ...I moved the attachment directory and the files... So the likelihood of an exploit occurring really isn't worthy of 'concern'. Marck said to Peter in: MID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP> IMHO this is where common sense kicks in over paranoia, MDP> statistics, possibilities and permutations. And I really agree with him here as well. Yeah, it's good to be cautious and explore the possibilities and baton down the hatches, but it is really fruitless to concern yourself unnecessarily with billion to one possibilities. For the record, the first thing I did when installing TB! for the first time was to install to a different partition and relocate the email base. It is habit now more than anything else, but also a hint of paranoia mixed with a smidgen of wisdom ;-) - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #1531. Law Dey Sir Mrs Quo ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 Comment: Fingerprint: 40DD 7908 9DF8 634F 1B98 8849 9266 C870 DF80 62C1 iQA/AwUBP7dikJJmyHDfgGLBEQI5kQCg2UuAppOxMPOjaqk757zS/QB1ZJMAnA2A O2+SOEydN/Nq5+hIUnMA9ZHB =Rmxc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bounce data
Hi Jean, On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, at 10:21:53 [GMT +0100] (which was 10:21 where I live) you wrote: JS> I don't understand the meaning of the words "Bounce data"! It means that messages sent from the mailinglist isn't delivered to that particular person. Can happen for example if the mailbox of the receiver is full or the mailaddress is unknown. -- Best regards, Gerrit Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bounce data
Bonjour , > It means that the list has accumulated bounce data on your address > over time and has decided that enough is enough . I don't understand the meaning of the words "Bounce data"! -- Avec mes remerciements Cordialement Jean mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
