Quoted text wrong color

[Anthony G. Atkielski]

I've noticed on a plain-text e-mail message I've received that the
second-level quoted text is maroon and bold, even though I had
previously set everything to plain black in the text editor for plain
text messages. I've only seen it on one message (not sure if other
messages met the criteria for second-level quotations, or whatever
triggers it).

I set all the HTML colors to black and plain and the maroon bold style
went away.  But this was a plain text message so the HTML settings
should not have mattered (?).

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Re: Bug? Failure of Macros to Expand

[Bill McCarthy]

On Thu 21-Oct-04 7:16pm -0400, Peter Ouwehand wrote:

> I assume that was meant to be 'Run external action'.
> Comments in that pop-up clearly state its possible to use macros to
> pass message properties as parameters.

Yes.  A work-a-round was posted in TBBETA.

See 

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Re: Global hotkey

[Chris]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2004-Oct-21 9:39:52 PM
"Global hotkey" 

> Is it possible to redefine global hotkey for reply/forward email?

> I know there is ctrl+enter for reply and shift+entrer for forward
> but I'd like to have ctrl+r for reply and ctrl+f for forward and
> also ctrl+n for new..

  View -> Edit Shortcut Keys

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Global hotkey

[finalcut]

Is it possible to redefine global hotkey for reply/forward email?

I know there is ctrl+enter for reply and shift+entrer for forward
but I'd like to have ctrl+r for reply and ctrl+f for forward and also ctrl+n for new..

all these kind of key

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Re: Fedora and TB!

[Chris]

Kara @ 2004-Oct-21 7:30:01 PM
"Fedora and TB!" 

> Can TB! be used as Fedora's e-mail client or is use of TB! limited
> only to those using a Windows O/S?

I have read that a handful of people on this list have successfully
used The Bat! with either CrossOver Office or WINE. I'm not sure if
The Bat! will integrate into you desktop environment well enough so
that when you click on an e-mail link on a web page it will open.
However, The Bat! will work.

"Re: The msi installer is giving me a problem under Xandros" 
"Re: V3 Questions" 

Search the list archive for some more messages.

You may have to jump through some hoops to get The Bat! to install
until COO or WINE supports MSI installers.



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Re: Is it safe to delete the setup files in the Temp directory?

[Chris]

MFPA @ 2004-Oct-21 5:40:01 PM
"Is it safe to delete the setup files in the Temp directory?" 

> I've renamed the folder to C:\...\Temp\The Bat! Setup_THIS FOLDER
> MAY BE SAFE TO DELETE and will keep it for a couple of days just in
> case. ;-)

Just to allay your fears a bit...

I deleted those files a long time ago and nothing ill has come of it.

Also, programs are not guaranteed that the contents of the Temp folder
with remain from session to session, so well-behaved programs, of
which Windows Installer is one, only store files in there for one run;
they do not expect them to be there next time.


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Re: Fedora and TB!

[Andre Wichartz]

Hello Kara,

Friday, October 22, 2004, 1:30:01 AM, you wrote:

> 

> G'day

> I've just started using the Linux distro "Fedora Core 1".

> Can TB! be used as Fedora's e-mail client or is use of TB! limited only
> to those using a Windows O/S?

There is no linux version of the bat! But there's a way. There's a
windows emulator called wine. Fedora probably comes with it. Otherwise
you can download the current version from www.winehq.org

In a console cd to your bat directory and try wine thebat.exe There
are some issues, so don't expect it to work as well as under windows
but all in all it works fairly well.

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Re: Fedora and TB!

[Mary Bull]

Hello Kara!

On Thursday, October 21, 2004, 6:30 PM, you wrote:

K> I've just started using the Linux distro "Fedora Core 1".

I don't know very much about Linux and Linux distros. However, we have
had extensive threads on tbot in regard to running The Bat! under Wine
on Suse and under Wine and Crossover on Xandros.

K> Can TB! be used as Fedora's e-mail client or is use of TB! limited
K> only to those using a Windows O/S?

The answer is that it is not limited to Windows O/S. There are
work-arounds.

If you're not subscribed to tbot, click on the Silverstones link
below, scroll down and subscribe.

We've just finished a long Knoppix thread (another Linux distro) on
tbot. There are people very interested in using The Bat! on a Linux
platform, and people who are actually doing it successfully, albeit
with one or two limitations.

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Re: Fedora and TB!

[finalcut]

Hello Kara

On 21.October.2004, 7:30 PM (Now: 21.October.2004, 7:30 PM),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

K> G'day
K> I've just started using the Linux distro "Fedora Core 1".
K> Can TB! be used as Fedora's e-mail client or is use of TB! limited only
K> to those using a Windows O/S?
K> Ciao

K> Kara

I don't think there is any linux version of thebat
It's only developped for win32 platform

ciao

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Fedora and TB!

[Kara]

G'day

I've just started using the Linux distro "Fedora Core 1".

Can TB! be used as Fedora's e-mail client or is use of TB! limited only
to those using a Windows O/S?

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we come back from a grocery store with the most amazing
haul -- chicken, pork, half a cow. They must think we're
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Re[2]: Test

[admin]

> On Thursday, October 21, 2004 at 6:08:24 PM [GMT -0500], Marten
> Gallagher wrote:

>> OK I will.

>> If it doesn't reach the list, I'll let you know.

>> ;-)))

> "Hey Allie, I haven't received any test messages from you all day. :)"

> What are you going to do? Setup the scheduler to send me that message
> regularly? ;)

> I'm doing some testing to try to find a way around the LAN SMTP at
> work. It seems to filter on anything to do with TB!, whether it be in
> the message header or message body. I haven't yet found a way.

Hmmm. can't help you there.  It's late - I'm off -  good luck.

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Re: Test

[Allie Martin]

On Thursday, October 21, 2004 at 6:08:24 PM [GMT -0500], Marten
Gallagher wrote:

> OK I will.

> If it doesn't reach the list, I'll let you know.

> ;-)))

"Hey Allie, I haven't received any test messages from you all day. :)"

What are you going to do? Setup the scheduler to send me that message
regularly? ;)

I'm doing some testing to try to find a way around the LAN SMTP at
work. It seems to filter on anything to do with TB!, whether it be in
the message header or message body. I haven't yet found a way.

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Re: Test

[admin]

> Hello,

> Just a test message. If it reaches this list, please ignore.

OK I will.

If it doesn't reach the list, I'll let you know.

;-)))

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Test

[Allie Martin]

Hello,

Just a test message. If it reaches this list, please ignore.

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Re: Strange characters in view source

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Thomas,

On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:47:18 +0700GMT (21-10-2004, 19:47 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:

TF> Hello TBBETA,

Wrong list?

TF> I see weird characters in the headers. Example:

TF> X-Priority:? (Normal)
TF> Message-ID:?lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
TF> To: TBUDL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Saw nothing strange in that message. So either it's your system or
your ISP.

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Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies

[Dan Grunberg]

Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:03:16 -0700 (5:03 PM EDT here) Michael L. Wilson wrote:

> Hello Dan,

> old message...
DG>> Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:01:59 -0700 (4:01 PM EDT here) Michael L. Wilson wrote:

DG>> By now I hope EVERYONE realizes that the zone offset is in
DG>> minutes.

>>> I try the TZone macro with all the sub-macros and it hangs The Bat
>>> 3 So, it is lovely that this thread has gotten s off topic, I
>>> just want to use this macro.

> My reply...

> Can you send me the entire template for your reply header?  I fount
> Active Time Bias and hope I figured out the minutes right.

Yes, I'll email it to you, off group.


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Re: Is it safe to delete the setup files in the Temp directory?

[MFPA]

Hi

On Wednesday, 20 October, 2004, at 9:13:06 AM, Roelof Otten wrote:

> Hallo MFPA,

> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 04:19:24 +0100GMT (20-10-2004, 5:19 +0200, where I
> live), you wrote:

M>>   Is it safe to delete the files in the following directory?
M>>   C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Local Settings\Temp\The Bat! Setup

> Yes, it was done so automatically on my system. I presume that this
> isn't the directory you installed TB to. ;-)

I've renamed the folder to
C:\...\Temp\The Bat! Setup_THIS FOLDER MAY BE SAFE TO DELETE
and will keep it for a couple of days just in case. ;-)

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Re[2]: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies

[Michael L. Wilson]

Hello Dan,

old message...
DG> Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:01:59 -0700 (4:01 PM EDT here) Michael L. Wilson wrote:

DG> By now I hope EVERYONE realizes that the zone offset is in minutes.

>> I try the TZone macro with all the sub-macros and it hangs The Bat 3
>> So, it is lovely that this thread has gotten s off topic, I just
>> want to use this macro.



My reply...

Can you send me the entire template for your reply header?  I fount
Active Time Bias and hope I figured out the minutes right.

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Re[2]: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies

[Michael L. Wilson]

Hello Dan,

old message...
DG> Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:01:59 -0700 (4:01 PM EDT here) Michael L. Wilson wrote:

DG> By now I hope EVERYONE realizes that the zone offset is in minutes.

>> I try the TZone macro with all the sub-macros and it hangs The Bat 3
>> So, it is lovely that this thread has gotten s off topic, I just
>> want to use this macro.



DG> I use the Active Time Zone template on TheBat! version 2.12. The macro
DG> works with the MyMacros plugin, which is available from

Thanks...where do I get the Active Time Zone template?



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Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies

[Dan Grunberg]

Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:01:59 -0700 (4:01 PM EDT here) Michael L. Wilson wrote:

DG>> Your system's time zone offset (in seconds) iresides in your

By now I hope EVERYONE realizes that the zone offset is in minutes.

DG>> system's registry. You can read the TZoffset from the registry
DG>> and convert it

DG>> http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php

> I try the TZone macro with all the sub-macros and it hangs The Bat 3
> So, it is lovely that this thread has gotten s off topic, I just
> want to use this macro.

First thing to consider.


I use the Active Time Zone template on TheBat! version 2.12. The macro
works with the MyMacros plugin, which is available from
http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mymacros/ . The latest information on the
MyMacros page is dated 4 August 2004. According to the page, "MyMacros
is a set of additional macros for The Bat! v2 ..." I haven't updated,
so I don't know if MyMacros 1.11a will work with TB! 3, or if MyMacros
has a version for TB! 3. Does anybody know???

There is another extended macro plugin for TheBat! available at
http://www.gaijin.at/tbpxmp.php . I think Gagin says that Extended
Macro Plugin 0.9.3 works with TheBat! v 3. Gaijin Macro Plugin 0.80
(the version whose Help file I've been toying with translating) has a
GetReg macro; perhaps 0.9.3 has a GetReg macro. Perhaps Gaijin's
GetReg macro can be made to work, in place of MyMacro's RegRead macro,
in the Active time Zone template. Unfortunately, all of Gajin's
documentation is in German. Fortunately, German can be roughly
translated with Google's Language Tools
http://www.google.com/language_tools .



Second thing to consider.
=

MyMacro's RegRead macro is at the heart of the ActiveTimeZone
template. I discovered early on that if you run the template from an
account that doesn't have both read AND write privileges for the
system registry's TimeZoneInformation key administrative privileges,
%RegRead(...\TimeZoneInformation will return an error message, and the
ActiveTimeZone Quick Template will return nothing at all. By default,
non-administrator users' TimeZoneInformation privileges are limited to
read only. It may be necessary to have a member of your system's
Administrator Group run regedt32.exe and change non-administrator users'

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation

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Re: Empty Mail

[Gerard]

ON Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 6:15:57 PM, you wrote:
MDP> Not only is it your machine, but it is a *piece of software* on your
MDP> machine listening on TCP/IP port 110 (the POP3 port) to your requests
MDP> for your email from The Bat! That software then digs it out of the
MDP> "folder" and sends it to you. It is software. It is software that
MDP> opens an email message from the folder and sends it to TB.

MDP> *THAT* is the software that is eating your messages. Sorry, but you
MDP> don't seem to be understanding this basic and fundamental point I (and
MDP> others) are making here.

Marck,

I fully agree with your interpretation but I would like to remark that the
email used as an example is clearly spam and there for most likely is being
"mangled" by some antispam software.

It could even be add blocking software from Kerio. It has this for website
(aka HTML processor). I wrong setup of the software could possibly cause
this.

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Bug? Failure of Macros to Expand

[Bill McCarthy]

Hello TB User Discussion List,

I've posted this to the beta list, but didn't get a
response.  So I thought I'd try here :-)

Attempting to pass the folder name (or any other macro)
to a batch file, the macro is not expanding.  For
example, a filter with the Execute action and command
line:

   c:\test_bat.cmd %FolderName

receives %FolderName - not expanded to the actual
folder name.  Is there some trick to get the macro to
expand?  Or is this a bug?

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Re: Access violation when moving folders for rules

[Mica Mijatovic]

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Hash: SHA1

   ***^\ ."_)~~
 ~( __ _"o   Was another beautiful day, Thu, 21 Oct 2004,
   @  @  at 17:39:19 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

> Hello Michael L. Wilson & everyone else

> 21-Okt-2004 00:03, you wrote:

>> I know this and say this because I worked for 16 years in Redmond
>> Washington, for Microsoft

> Since we remember (from the days of *that* signature of yours *g*) that you
> are a teacher, critic and ecclesiastic (sp?) philosopher, may I ask what
> position you did occupy there? [no stab at discrediting you or something
> intended, I'd just find it interesting to know what kinda people are
> working for Microsoft, you know...]

Pphhoo...! (: I couldn't hold my breath anymore. :grin:

Well...? 

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Strange characters in view source

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello TBBETA,

I see weird characters in the headers. Example:

X-Priority:? (Normal)
Message-ID:?lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TBUDL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

There is also a square replacing the blank and the T after the colon
in the To: line, but the c&p from the source view (F9) doesn't show
this. In fact, many headers show either question marks or squares when
using the source view. No weird characters in the header view
(crtl-K).

Does anybody see this, or is it my system? I didn't see this under TB
v2.12.

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Re[2]: Access violation when moving folders for rules

[Charles Canato]

Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 7:03:18 PM, you wrote:

AGA>> When I create a new rule and try to move it with Alt and the mouse, if I
AGA>> slip it downwards instead of upwards, I usually get an access violation,
AGA>> like the message attached.  Access violations then occur each time I try
AGA>> to edit the filters, until I stop and restart TB.  Nothing is corrupted
AGA>> and everything works fine after I restart the client.

MLW> Microsoft Windows, all version, are, by nature, self corrupting.

Michael, I sure respect the fact that you worked on Microsoft and have
a large experience and so, but come on. If everybody answered like
that, we even wouldn't have to discuss it on the list.

Yeah, Windows can be the reason sometimes - as sometimes the program
is the reason.

MLW> So, before you jump on the instability of The Bat!, backup, reformat
MLW> and reinstall.  You will be amazed at the speed of your new machine
MLW> and how stable it is. Every six months...I am not kidding.

I'm sorry, but I'll say what I used to tell people who worked with me:
this is like healing a headache with an axe. You'll heal it, no doubt.
But what was the reason? And if the bugs keep on coming?

No need for those 6 hours every 6 months. I run my Win2000
installation for 3 and a half years right now. But I can understand
what you mean: no users act always carefully or use the same software.
There's software which is completely bug-free, some others not very
much...  reformatting can be a good thing, sure, but isn't always
necessary, unless you know you are totally careless about browsing
habits, not using anti-virus and so. We're never safe, but we know how
much we put ourselves in risk.

And allow me to say: every advanced Windows user will cry in
desperation when you say every Windows engineer do that. Maybe they
just do that because they're always needing to test or develop
something that requires that. ;-)

Anyway, it was a good suggestion: as a last and desperate try.

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Re: Access violation when moving folders for rules

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Michael L. Wilson & everyone else

21-Okt-2004 00:03, you wrote:

> I know this and say this because I worked for 16 years in Redmond
> Washington, for Microsoft

Since we remember (from the days of *that* signature of yours *g*) that you
are a teacher, critic and ecclesiastic (sp?) philosopher, may I ask what
position you did occupy there? [no stab at discrediting you or something
intended, I'd just find it interesting to know what kinda people are
working for Microsoft, you know...]

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Re: KAV plugin for TB

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello B R i a N S & everyone else

20-Okt-2004 23:45, you wrote:

> I got this Kaspersky Antivirus plugin and i can't start it to work
> with The Bat! this file doesn't have any README, HELP, TUTORIAL,
> nothing.

> the plugin comes from:
> http://thebat.orgavision.de/zip/kav40119.zip

I doubt that this is a plugin for The Bat - the archive does not contain a
.tbp file (which would be the plugin), and second, it does contain at least
one other files that makes me question the legal status of this archive...

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Re[3]: The Bat and Dual Monitors instability

[Steven P Valliere]

Ivan,

Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 9:17:29 AM, you wrote:

>>   I also use TB (v2) on a multi-monitor (3) configuration.
IL>  Do you have a physical 3 screens or virtual ?

I have three physical monitors attached to three physical
video cards (AGP GeForce 2/MX, PCI Diamond Viper 550, PCI
3Dfx Banshee) and use the multi-monitor capability that is
built in to Windows 2000 (which is also in WinME and WinXP).
I've never seen the point of different virtual screens,
since if I'm able to keep track of that many windows on ONE
physical screen anyway, what's the difference?

IL>  I tried on 2 physical screens, works fine. Since application
IL> have no idea that there are more than 1 screen.

I write Windows software for a living and I can say with
assurance that applications that have no idea there is more
than one screen simply haven't checked.  There are standard
system calls to get the number, size, resolution, color depth,
etc. of every active display.  There is probably a call to
determine the layout of the displays, too, but I haven't needed
that one yet.

>>   And since I use TB2, I doubt it will ever be fixed because
>>   I get a strong impression that v2 has been abandoned.  RIT
>>   wants us to pay for v3 to get features we neither need nor
>>   want in order to get bug fixes to v2 that haven't even been
>>   implemented.

IL> "Welcome to the real world" (c) A black guy with a blue pills
IL> from a place that calls Matrix.

Yup.  But since I have the "privilege" of supporting software
that is sometimes as much as 20 years old (but typically only
about 5-8 yrs old), I've developed a strong belief that all
abandoned (AKA unsupported) software should be either:

 (A) Automatically entered into the public domain, WITH source,
 so that someone else may maintain it.

 (B) Upgraded (for FREE) to the next supported version.

(Sorry I took so long to respond, I was out of town)
-- 
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Re: More than six accounts: check fails over six

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Chris,

Thursday, October 21, 2004, 1:31:18 PM, you wrote:

> Well, whatever is limited, I ran into the limit almost hourly, so I
> had to do something. Tweaking the registry has helped immensely. No
> longer do I get the messages in the event log, but my Internet
> connection seems faster.

You tweaked something else. :-)

It is very unlikely that you addressed the XPXP2 Event ID 4226 issue
by tweaking the registry. That can only be fixed by patching the
system files.

http://www.speedguide.net/files/xp_sp2/EvID4226Patch211a-en.zip

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Re: More than six accounts: check fails over six

[Chris]

David Pascoe @ 2004-Oct-21 3:12:44 AM
"More than six accounts: check fails over six" 

>> Windows XP SP2 limits outgoing connection to 10, so this may also
>> be your problem. Search the Internet for "Windows XP SP2"
>> "Connection limit" and you'll find a work-around.

> This is a common misunderstanding about XPSP2. It throttles new
> connections to limit to 10 ports being unconnected at one time. This
> is completely different to having 10 connections. It limits how
> quickly the OS can open ports and attempt to connect to services. It
> will slow down port scanners for eg. It won't stop them, just rate
> limit their growth. I sometimes have about 100 connections open now
> worries.

Well, whatever is limited, I ran into the limit almost hourly, so I
had to do something. Tweaking the registry has helped immensely. No
longer do I get the messages in the event log, but my Internet
connection seems faster.

-- 
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma.


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Re: More than six accounts: check fails over six

[David Pascoe]

On Thursday, 21 October 2004, at 20:08:50 [GMT -0400] you wrote:

C> Windows XP SP2 limits outgoing connection to 10, so this may also be
C> your problem. Search the Internet for "Windows XP SP2" "Connection
C> limit" and you'll find a work-around.

This is a common misunderstanding about XPSP2. It throttles new
connections to limit to 10 ports being unconnected at one time. This is
completely different to having 10 connections. It limits how quickly the
OS can open ports and attempt to connect to services. It will slow down
port scanners for eg. It won't stop them, just rate limit their growth. I
sometimes have about 100 connections open now worries.

I wouldn't trust any third party `fix' to SP2, esp. as there is no need
for it.

cheers,
davidp.   
-- 
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