Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts
Hallo Robin, On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 23:33:31 +1000GMT (22-4-2005, 15:33 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RA I also want to use separate templates for sending email from the two RA accounts, although they will go via the same SMTP server. What about address book templates? I suppose your contacts are either business or private, not both, so you should be able to drop most/all addresses in two groups and use address book group templates. -- Groetjes, Roelof Real SysOps hate authors of bad Shareware programs begging for money. The Bat! 3.0.9.18 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp7ixC3VWrom.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts
Hello Robin, But folder templates apply just to the folder they are set for, not for all subfolders of the parent. That means that each time a create a new folder in (for example) the business folder tree, I would have to remember to set the folder templates. If they were an inherited attribute, so that new folders inherited the templates of their parent folder, that would be very different. You can do this if subfolders are VFs, but I don't know if that suits your needs. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.9.18 Return Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts
Roelof On Sat 23 April 2005, 17:00:18 +1000, Roelof Otten wrote: RA I also want to use separate templates for sending email from the two RA accounts, although they will go via the same SMTP server. What about address book templates? I suppose your contacts are either business or private, not both, so you should be able to drop most/all addresses in two groups and use address book group templates. Now I hadn't thought of address book GROUP templates. I will look at that more closely. Thanks. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts
Miguel On Sat 23 April 2005, 20:47:51 +1000, Miguel wrote: But folder templates apply just to the folder they are set for, not for all subfolders of the parent. That means that each time a create a new folder in (for example) the business folder tree, I would have to remember to set the folder templates. If they were an inherited attribute, so that new folders inherited the templates of their parent folder, that would be very different. You can do this if subfolders are VFs, but I don't know if that suits your needs. I hadn't thought about VFs either. Thanks, I will consider that. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts
Hello Robin, On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:20:42 +1000 GMT (23/04/2005, 11:20 +0700 GMT), Robin Anson wrote: No, you can use folder templates. RA But folder templates apply just to the folder they are set for, not for RA all subfolders of the parent. That means that each time a create a new RA folder in (for example) the business folder tree, I would have to RA remember to set the folder templates. Set up your template as a QuickTemplate, and then all you have to change when you create a new subfolder is the default templates (which you probably don't use anyway) to the QT. RA If they were an inherited attribute, so that new folders inherited the RA templates of their parent folder, that would be very different. How often do you create new folders? -- Cheers, Thomas. I saw a woman wearing a sweatshirt with 'Guess' on it. I said, 'Thyroid problem?' Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts
Hello Roelof, On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:00:18 +0200 GMT (23/04/2005, 14:00 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO What about address book templates? RO I suppose your contacts are either business or private, not both, so RO you should be able to drop most/all addresses in two groups and use RO address book group templates. If Robin's setup is anything like mine in the office, that won't work. I have many hundreds business contacts (some I communicate more often with than others) and over a hundred filters and subfolders. Creating AB entries for each contact would be a lot of additional work. In fact, the AB in my office TB is completely empty. When I want to send a new message, I go into the folder and select an address and use Send new message to this address. If the folder contains several thousand messages (many do), TB's search function is very fast and convenient. Takes me less time than adding each new address to the AB. Gee, I actually wouldn't know how to organise my company email without TB's superior filtering and search functionalities, and across several accounts at that. Even though I have a legal home version of TB (using it here), I bought an additional business version for the office, just because it is worth it and I couldn't do my job without it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Durch einen Lichtstrahl drangen in der Nacht zum Freitag unbekannte Taeter in den Supermarkt ein. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts
Hi On Friday 22 April 2005 at 2:33:31 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Anson wrote: I also want to use separate templates for sending email from the two accounts, although they will go via the same SMTP server. [...] I could set up a new account for one of them and set it up to never check mail. That would allow me to use completely separate templates for business and personal outgoing mail. Could set up two accounts in TB! with identical filters and server details. Filter business mail to the folders of one, personal mail to the folders of the other. Put templates for outgoing business mail on one and outgoing personal mail on the other. However it would mean I would have to set outgoing mail to immediate send. This is probably not a major problem, but it is not my usual way of doing it. Could set both these accounts to periodic checking and combined delivery. There might be an issue on the occasions both accounts try at the same time but the incidence of this could be minimised by only having one check on startup and by having one check, say every 30 minutes and the other every 31 minutes (or whatever). -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts
Hallo Thomas, On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 20:10:26 +0700GMT (23-4-2005, 15:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TF If Robin's setup is anything like mine in the office, that won't work. TF I have many hundreds business contacts (some I communicate more often TF with than others) and over a hundred filters and subfolders. Creating TF AB entries for each contact would be a lot of additional work. In There's no need to create them manually, a couple of sub-filters that add addresses to the business AB group would do just fine. -- Groetjes, Roelof When you go to the market, use your eyes, not your ears. The Bat! 3.0.9.18 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpzWVGgME9BR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts
Hello Robin, On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:20:42 +1000 GMT (23/04/2005, 11:20 +0700 GMT), Robin Anson wrote: This is where it gets tricky, because TB allows regular check but not regular send. I have set my accounts to regular check and combined. If you are comfortable with immediate send, then use that. RA And that is the main problem with this approach. Just had an idea: Don't put the correct details for POP-checking into Account / Transport. For example, key in a wrong password or a non-existent POP server. This way, regular checking will fail while sending will still work. -- Cheers, Thomas. I don't know the answer to the question you posted, but I think someone asked this question 18 years ago on the net. Don't remember if it got answered. Hope this helps! Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts
Hello Roelof, On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 00:52:04 +0200 GMT (24/04/2005, 05:52 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO There's no need to create them manually, a couple of sub-filters that RO add addresses to the business AB group would do just fine. Well, yes. But there are always addresses that don't filter correctly, so you have to manually maintain the AB, too. Whether your approach or mine is considered easier, may depend on the individual user. -- Cheers, Thomas. Stossseufzer eines Malers: Schon wieder eine Woche verstrichen! Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing filters
Hello Thomas, On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 21:05:08 +0700 GMT (08/04/2005, 21:05 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF I found a way around: Instead of using Incoming filters, I use Read TF filters. This way, the message stays in the original account until I TF open it, and then it will be copied to the archive folder. Perfect! Not perfect. Because I had to do some updating of the filters, namely adding addresses to some. Turns out I now had to do that in two places: The Incoming filters in the main/archive account, the Common Read filters used by the other account. The Read filters are deactivated now, and there is only one Common filter in place. This copies each Incoming mail into the Inbox of the main/archive account, marking the copy as read. I have to manually refilter that Inbox now, but nevertheless, this is the best solution solution so far. I need to maintain and update only the Incoming filters in the main account. -- Cheers, Thomas. Ist der Chef da? - Dumme Frage! Wuerden wir dann hier sitzen und Karten spielen? Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts
Thomas On Sat 23 April 2005, 22:59:39 +1000, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Set up your template as a QuickTemplate, and then all you have to change when you create a new subfolder is the default templates (which you probably don't use anyway) to the QT. True, that would simplify it. RA If they were an inherited attribute, so that new folders inherited the RA templates of their parent folder, that would be very different. How often do you create new folders? Admittedly not very often, it is more the principle of trying to find the neatest, simplest way of doing it. If there are too many steps that have to be remembered, I will forget one when it is guaranteed to cause maximum embarrassment! -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts
On Sun 24 April 2005, 1:41:34 +1000, Mfpa wrote: Could set up two accounts in TB! with identical filters and server details. Filter business mail to the folders of one, personal mail to the folders of the other. Put templates for outgoing business mail on one and outgoing personal mail on the other. ...snip... Could set both these accounts to periodic checking and combined delivery. There might be an issue on the occasions both accounts try at the same time but the incidence of this could be minimised by only having one check on startup and by having one check, say every 30 minutes and the other every 31 minutes (or whatever). Not the most elegant way because of that potential clash, but it is in practical terms what I want to achieve. Actually, now I think of it that might not result in any clashes. All my mail retrieval is done via Popfile, and since I am using it to do an SSL connection to one of my POP servers, I have to set it not to do concurrent sessions. That will mean that if both accounts try to connect as the same time, they will simply be done serially. That might work well. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
