Re: Re[5]: Jack's announces his new "upgrade" policy for TB
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 04:00:01 +0200, Vili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: HJM> IMO, it wouldn't hurt some of you to stop taking yourselves so HJM> seriously, and lighten up a bit. I'm having major problems. I'm HJM> angry, I'm frustrated, and tired. And because of it you are making other people angry... Your mail was not funny (at least I did not laugh at it), next time use some smileys... *disbelief* COME ON! Osama Bin Laden converts to Roman Catholism? Do you really need a smiley behind that? It just shows a weak character, nothing more, if someone put his/her anger/frustration on other people. Maybe it also shows weak character if people have to publically start to rant? I don't really care about the lengthy spellchequer thread, but I simply ignore it, it doesn't bother me, so please let "us" solve Jack's problems with TB, thats what this list is here for, and if you don't care about the human touch he adds, simply *ignore* it, but stop publically attacking him, thats simply RUDE. -- Greetings/Grüsse Alexander. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Jack's announces his new "upgrade" policy for TB
Hello Handsome, HJM> IMO, it wouldn't hurt some of you to stop taking yourselves so HJM> seriously, and lighten up a bit. I'm having major problems. I'm HJM> angry, I'm frustrated, and tired. And because of it you are making other people angry... Your mail was not funny (at least I did not laugh at it), next time use some smileys... It just shows a weak character, nothing more, if someone put his/her anger/frustration on other people. -- Vili Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 5:13:44 PM, you wrote: > Hello Handsome Jack Morrison & everyone else, > on 07-Aug-2005 at 20:14 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote: >>> And btw. - when you copy the old account folders and their subfolders back >>> into place, you'll also restore your old messages (and eventually will find >>> your original TB registration message). >> I assume that just by copying the "old" account folder (e.g., "John >> Doe) each account's subfolder(s) will tag a long, right? > If you copy the entire folder, its OK. I thought you might only copy the > single files, that why I mentioned it. I was going to find the "old" account file folder (e.g., the one labeled "John Doe"), select it, and then hit Ctrl-C. Then I was going to find the "new" account file folder, select it, and hit Ctrl-V. >>> At one point when you copied over another set of configuration files, your >>> TB *will* hang again for sure. At this point, you know now which account >>> contains the faulty configuration file. >>> If that happens, you go back to the new set of configuration files you >>> backed up before. Then move the old files back again, but this time, not >>> all at once, but one after the other. >> I'm confused. What do you mean by "not all at once"? I wouldn't have >> copied them over "all at once" before, but one at a time. > I thought you have multiple accounts. Not all of them will contain corrupt > configuration files. I think we just have a bit of a semantics problem. By "all at once," I thought you meant all at the same time. Yes, I have 10 accounts. And I was planning on copying the "old" accounts over to the "new" accounts -- but one at a time. > So, first you copy the entire account back and see if TB still starts fine. > If it doesn't, you have found the problem account. Only then, and only in > this problem account, you try one file at a time, so that we can restore > the maximum of configuration data from the old account files. Here's where I'm losing you again. And, frankly, I'm getting a little burned out. In fact, I'm worn to a frazzle. >> And what do you mean by "move the old files back again"? And back where? >> "Old," as in the files from "old" TB that wouldn't load? If I move one of >> them to the "new" TB, and TB won't load (like before) isn't that the only >> one that needs to be removed/renamed, because I can re-create it from >> scratch again? > Yes, but as I wrote above, you can limit it to (most likely) one single > configuration file (lets say account.srb), and you'll still have the rest > of the "OK" files. Okay. That helps explain it. >> The way I see it, I'm, at best, going to lose at least one Account's >> configuration files (provided only one Account is corrupted), right? > Not the entire files, if you go thru these one at a time once you located > the problematic account. >> I'm afraid that I'm going to screw this up royally. > Not now, we're so close, man. Close, but no cigar, I'm afraid. I really shouldn't try this in my present state of mind, plus it's getting late. So I'm going to sleep on it again. I've printed out all of your messages, and I'm going to read them, then read them again, then read them again, and then maybe give it a shot (if I happen to experience one of those "Eureka!" moments while reading them). Or, I may just decide to leave well enough alone, and just cut my losses. I couldn't go through this again. I just couldn't. Whatever happens, Alexander, I sincerely appreciate your patience and willingness to give me a hand. And I apologize for making what to you is probably like tying your shoelaces into something closer to open-heart surgery. You're a great guy, and so is Roelof (even if he eventually decides to cut me loose). Good night. -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New version of The Bat won't load!
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 5:30:54 PM, you wrote: > Hallo Jack, > On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 15:13:36 -0400GMT (7-8-2005, 21:13 +0200, where I > live), you wrote: >>> It means, just go ahead with what you are doing anyway. Forget about >>> the registry key (that .reg file) you have. You don't need it any more >>> and would cause damage if you double-clicked on it now. JM>> But I've *already* clicked on it, as requested. > Thomas meant the full registry back-up for TB. Not the single key file > with your registration key that I extracted from it. Okay. Thanks for the clarification. -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Jack's announces his new "upgrade" policy for TB
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 5:23:03 PM, you wrote: > Jack, >>> Give it a rest. >> No thanks. > Please reconsider and move on. I'm sure Roelof or Marck will > eventually agree, too. That's always possible. I'd accept it, of course, but I wouldn't understand it. Unless, of course, you're only welcome here if you're going to sing TB's praises? IMO, it wouldn't hurt some of you to stop taking yourselves so seriously, and lighten up a bit. I'm having major problems. I'm angry, I'm frustrated, and tired. And it couldn't have come at a worse time. Yet I'm trying to find something, anything, to laugh at. Yet some of you seem to delight in biting at my ankles during my "troubles" I think that says more about you than it does about me. -- Best regards, Jack Q: What is the difference between an Australian wedding and an Australian funeral? A: One less drunk at the funeral. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hallo Jack, On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 15:13:36 -0400GMT (7-8-2005, 21:13 +0200, where I live), you wrote: >> It means, just go ahead with what you are doing anyway. Forget about >> the registry key (that .reg file) you have. You don't need it any more >> and would cause damage if you double-clicked on it now. JM> But I've *already* clicked on it, as requested. Thomas meant the full registry back-up for TB. Not the single key file with your registration key that I extracted from it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, vidi, vacuum, (I came, I saw--nothing.) The Bat! 3.51.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpaxsvLmVbjG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Jack's announces his new "upgrade" policy for TB
Jack, >> Give it a rest. > No thanks. Please reconsider and move on. I'm sure Roelof or Marck will eventually agree, too. -- Kind Regards, Neal Laugman Using The Bat! v3.51.10 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release on Win2000 SP4 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using The Bat! to retrieve Hot Mail
Hello A.Translator, Sunday, August 7, 2005, 12:03:15 PM, you wrote: > I have used Web2Pop for my Yahoo-accounts for ages now, and it has never > failed > me. Well worth the dough. Thanks but I have a paid account with yahoo and am able to get the mail just fine with TB! I do appreciate all the feed back and am looking at all options. -- Best regards, Michaelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Using The Bat! to retrieve Hot Mail
Hello Jeff, Sunday, August 7, 2005, 12:50:31 PM, you wrote: > If you don't get on with it then Hotmail Popper is worth a look, I am > using it here in conjunction with K9. It's at: > http://www.boolean.ca/hotpop/ > I am using it with 1 paid and 1 free account, although we were warned > some time ago that POP3 retrieval for free accounts would be removed - > one day. Yep found that one also. Am using it now and it is working fine. Have not had any problems with retrieving the mail from Hotmail. All I have is a Free account. Have had this account since the early '90s when it was still the REAL Hotmail. :) Before Microsoft bought it out. But thanks for the reply and like I said it is working fine... -- Best regards, Michaelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5
Hello Handsome Jack Morrison & everyone else, on 07-Aug-2005 at 20:14 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote: >> And btw. - when you copy the old account folders and their subfolders back >> into place, you'll also restore your old messages (and eventually will find >> your original TB registration message). > I assume that just by copying the "old" account folder (e.g., "John > Doe) each account's subfolder(s) will tag a long, right? If you copy the entire folder, its OK. I thought you might only copy the single files, that why I mentioned it. >> At one point when you copied over another set of configuration files, your >> TB *will* hang again for sure. At this point, you know now which account >> contains the faulty configuration file. >> If that happens, you go back to the new set of configuration files you >> backed up before. Then move the old files back again, but this time, not >> all at once, but one after the other. > I'm confused. What do you mean by "not all at once"? I wouldn't have > copied them over "all at once" before, but one at a time. I thought you have multiple accounts. Not all of them will contain corrupt configuration files. So, first you copy the entire account back and see if TB still starts fine. If it doesn't, you have found the problem account. Only then, and only in this problem account, you try one file at a time, so that we can restore the maximum of configuration data from the old account files. > And what do you mean by "move the old files back again"? And back where? > "Old," as in the files from "old" TB that wouldn't load? If I move one of > them to the "new" TB, and TB won't load (like before) isn't that the only > one that needs to be removed/renamed, because I can re-create it from > scratch again? Yes, but as I wrote above, you can limit it to (most likely) one single configuration file (lets say account.srb), and you'll still have the rest of the "OK" files. > The way I see it, I'm, at best, going to lose at least one Account's > configuration files (provided only one Account is corrupted), right? Not the entire files, if you go thru these one at a time once you located the problematic account. > I'm afraid that I'm going to screw this up royally. Not now, we're so close, man. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I suspect that most of us get old without growing up, and that inside every adult (sometimes not very far inside) is a bratty kid who wants everything his own way. (Bill Watterson) Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Jack's announces his new "upgrade" policy for TB
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 4:30:46 PM, you wrote: [] >> And maybe not even then. > Give it a rest. No thanks. > You are getting quite boring. Then don't bother to read my posts. Easy, right? Or do you just enjoy ankle-biting? That's what I thought. -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Jack's announces his new "upgrade" policy for TB
Hi Handsome (probably "Ugly"?), On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, at 14:29:21 [GMT-0400] (which was Mon, 4:29:21 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: > 1. It snows in Miami, Florida in August. > 2. A cure for cancer is found. > 3. The Chicago Cubs win the World Series. > 4. Microsoft files for bankruptcy protection. > 5. Osama Bin Laden converts to Roman Catholicism. > And maybe not even then. Give it a rest. You are getting quite boring. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Americans are getting stronger. Twenty years ago, it took two people to carry ten dollars' worth of groceries. Today, a five-year-old can do it. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: English (British) Dictionary
Hello Greg, Sunday, August 7, 2005, 2:00:10 PM, you wrote: GS> Anyhow the answer is providing the limited user permissions (i.e. GS> rights) not only to directories, but also to the registry keys per GS> the KB257643. I now have the dictionary functions working in both GS> TB & Word 97 on the limited user account. Unfortunately, I believe this is only possible with XP Pro as you do not have this flexibility in the Home version. :( -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New version of The Bat won't load!
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 2:36:58 PM, you wrote: > Hello Handsome, > On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 14:15:00 -0400 GMT (08/08/2005, 01:15 +0700 GMT), > Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: >>> Since TB is running on your machine now, just go ahead and continue >>> setting up accounts. That's my advice. HJM>> Or what that means, either. > It means, just go ahead with what you are doing anyway. Forget about > the registry key (that .reg file) you have. You don't need it any more > and would cause damage if you double-clicked on it now. But I've *already* clicked on it, as requested. That's how I managed to get rid of that freakin' nag screen, the same one that the folks at Ritlabs are so proud of, and which was making my already miserable life even more miserable while I was trying to set-up my accounts, etc. all over again. Now I don't have a clue what to do next. -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: English (British) Dictionary
Hello Greg! On Sunday, August 07, 2005, 2:00 PM, you wrote: >> Well I can say ABSOLUTELY the problem all along was that of rights on >> a limited user's account. It had nothing to do with the registry. I >> restored the registry to the original state. > Well I have to say that I should somewhat correct myself here. I was > testing rights on directories. I had 'limited user' account working, > then lost functionality in both TB and MS Word. In my despair I looked > to MS KB's for the answer. > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;257643 > provided the clue. I've always thought of them as rights. Apparently MS > looks at them as permissions. IMHO they are the same thing. Anyhow the > answer is providing the limited user permissions (i.e. rights) not > only to directories, but also to the registry keys per the KB257643. I > now have the dictionary functions working in both TB & Word 97 on the > limited user account. I've bookmarked the link, and also I've placed a copy of your post in my Troubleshooting file. Just in case I run into this kind of problem at some future time. Thanks for all the great information, Greg. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello Handsome, On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 14:15:00 -0400 GMT (08/08/2005, 01:15 +0700 GMT), Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: >> Since TB is running on your machine now, just go ahead and continue >> setting up accounts. That's my advice. HJM> Or what that means, either. It means, just go ahead with what you are doing anyway. Forget about the registry key (that .reg file) you have. You don't need it any more and would cause damage if you double-clicked on it now. -- Cheers, Thomas. 31. 'Stewardesses' is the longest English word that is typed with only the left hand. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Jack's announces his new "upgrade" policy for TB
Jack will next "upgrade" his two copies of The Bat to "newer" versions only three years *after* all of the following things occur: 1. It snows in Miami, Florida in August. 2. A cure for cancer is found. 3. The Chicago Cubs win the World Series. 4. Microsoft files for bankruptcy protection. 5. Osama Bin Laden converts to Roman Catholicism. And maybe not even then. -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat! to retrieve Hot Mail
Roelof Otten stelde de volgende uitleg voor : but did you ever try Web2Pop? I have used Web2Pop for my Yahoo-accounts for ages now, and it has never failed me. Well worth the dough. -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New version of The Bat won't load!
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 1:26:06 PM, you wrote: > Hello Handsome, > On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 12:31:24 -0400 GMT (06/08/2005, 23:31 +0700 GMT), > Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: HJM>> Can I do that now(close TB and double-click on that file), or should I HJM>> wait until after I have set-up all my other accounts? > You should have done that before setting up accounts, because it would > have saved you work. Now that you have set them up already, I wouldn't > reimport the old registry key any more, because you will lose the info > you have already typed in. The registry key will be overwritten. Well, that's just great. I have no idea what that means. > Since TB is running on your machine now, just go ahead and continue > setting up accounts. That's my advice. Or what that means, either. Why me, God? "Because it had to be someone." "So why not you?" -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 1:24:54 PM, you wrote: [] > Exactly. You copy the contents of the old account folder (your old "John > Doe" directory) over the contents of the new account directory. > But wait! > Before you copy the old files over the new files, *please* back up the > *new* files to a different location, so that - once you have found the > problematic account - you can go back to the set of new files by copying > them over again. Okay, I did that. Thanks for the warning! > And btw. - when you copy the old account folders and their subfolders back > into place, you'll also restore your old messages (and eventually will find > your original TB registration message). I assume that just by copying the "old" account folder (e.g., "John Doe) each account's subfolder(s) will tag a long, right? >>>4.When you found the problematic account, try to remove/rename the >>>account configuration files (account.xxx) one by one. You will >>>eventually find the configuration file that is causing the problems. >> Okay. I find 6 "account configuration files (account.xxx) in the "old" >> Bat file. >> Account.~FLB >> Account.CFG >> Account.CFN >> Account.FLB >> Account.FLX >> Account.SRB >> I assume those are the "account configuration files" that you're referring >> too? > Correct, those are the files. If there are more in one or the other > directory (for example, a file "account.qtn" contains the Quick Templates, > if you have any), copy all of them. >> What if I end up with the same problem that brought me here in the >> first place? > Of course the old & corrupted file we're trying to find will not work again > all of a sudden. :-) But that means I'll either need more beer, or a medic experienced in CPR. I don't even want to think about it. > At one point when you copied over another set of configuration files, your > TB *will* hang again for sure. At this point, you know now which account > contains the faulty configuration file. > If that happens, you go back to the new set of configuration files you > backed up before. Then move the old files back again, but this time, not > all at once, but one after the other. I'm confused. What do you mean by "not all at once"? I wouldn't have copied them over "all at once" before, but one at a time. And what do you mean by "move the old files back again"? And back where? "Old," as in the files from "old" TB that wouldn't load? If I move one of them to the "new" TB, and TB won't load (like before) isn't that the only one that needs to be removed/renamed, because I can re-create it from scratch again? The way I see it, I'm, at best, going to lose at least one Account's configuration files (provided only one Account is corrupted), right? > Copy one configuration file, restart > TB, still works? Quit TB, copy the next configuration file, restart TB, > still works? And so on... until you've found the faulty file. > There still one more thing you may be missing when you're thru all this: > your address book, and your common filters. Those are not in any of the > account directories, but in the root "Mail" directory. Be sure to copy > these old files back, too. I've got that covered, believe it or not. Because I keep a copy of the address book on another copy of TB (and recently purchased, too, thank you very much, Mr. Phillips) that I use at the office. >> I need a beer... > I don't have any beer at home right now, a glass of red wine maybe? Actually, Alexander, I need whisky. A huge bottle of whisky. I'm afraid that I'm going to screw this up royally. -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Reward offered!
Saturday, August 6, 2005, 11:52:34 PM, you wrote: > Hi Handsome, > On Sat, 6 Aug 2005, at 21:08:41 [GMT-0400] (which was Sun, 11:08:41 > Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: >> But thanks again for all of your help and your especially warm response! >> Sheesh. > Time to relax! Time to actually read the threads before commenting! -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: English (British) Dictionary
Hello Greg! On Sunday, August 07, 2005, 12:22 PM, you wrote: MAU>>> Or maybe fiddling a little with the registry. I always login as MAU>>> administrator and have no other users in my machine, so I can't be of MAU>>> any help here. GS>> Why do you say registry? GS> Well I can say ABSOLUTELY the problem all along was that of rights on GS> a limited user's account. It had nothing to do with the registry. I GS> restored the registry to the original state. I now have the 'CSAPI GS> spell checker' in TB with the original registry settings. I have GS> 'American English', 'British English', & 'French' as additional GS> options in my 'Language' submenu. Even 'email' shows as spelling GS> correctly. :-) GS> It was RIGHTS all along. Greg, I am unable to curb my impulse to say, Congratulations! I am so glad that you were able to find the cause of the problem, as well as to get the CSAPI dictionaries that you wanted into your copy of The Bat! :) And we now know that v. 3.51.10 will recognize and add them from Office 97. Working as designed and as the Help file says it does. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Using The Bat! to retrieve Hot Mail
Hello Group On Sunday, August 7, 2005, 5:53:26 PM, Michael wrote: > Thanks Roelof, will give it a try. As I said, hate using the Web > Interface and would rather use TB! to handle all the e-mail. Going > to there web site right now. :) If you don't get on with it then Hotmail Popper is worth a look, I am using it here in conjunction with K9. It's at: http://www.boolean.ca/hotpop/ I am using it with 1 paid and 1 free account, although we were warned some time ago that POP3 retrieval for free accounts would be removed - one day. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using TheBat! 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello Handsome, On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 12:31:24 -0400 GMT (06/08/2005, 23:31 +0700 GMT), Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: HJM> Can I do that now(close TB and double-click on that file), or should I HJM> wait until after I have set-up all my other accounts? You should have done that before setting up accounts, because it would have saved you work. Now that you have set them up already, I wouldn't reimport the old registry key any more, because you will lose the info you have already typed in. The registry key will be overwritten. Since TB is running on your machine now, just go ahead and continue setting up accounts. That's my advice. -- Cheers, Thomas. Xerox: "The Original Copycats" Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Really strange behaviour.
Hello SD, On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 18:39:07 +0300 GMT (06/08/2005, 22:39 +0700 GMT), SD wrote: S> No, I didn't enable message splitting. As I said, the outbox shows S> number of messages correctly. Its whend I do "Send Queued Mails", it S> starts to send hundreds of mails, one by one, of course... Does you also get a high number of messages sent when you just send one message with a large attachment, or only when mass mailing? -- Cheers, Thomas. Bit: Geschicktes Product Placement einer Brauerei in Computerliteratur und Zeitschriften. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5
Hello Handsome Jack Morrison & everyone else, on 07-Aug-2005 at 18:07 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote: >>3. Re-create your accounts as they were before (same names, same pathes >>for mail directories) - one by one. > I think I've done that now. I always use the default path for mail > directories, so I should be good there, too. Good! >>For each account you created, copy the files you backed up before back, >>then check to see if the program is still running. That way, you can >>identify the account thats giving you the headache. > I have some more questions about the above. What files do I copy over, > and to where do I copy them? > For example, there's a folder in the "old" file (in the MAIL directory) > that is named "John Doe." Do I copy that file *over* the "John Doe" > folder in my "new" Bat files? I.e., do I select the old "John Doe" > folder, type Ctrl-C, move to the new "John Doe" folder, select it, and > then type Ctrl-V? And when you say "check to see if the program is > running" do you mean that I should then try to open TB? Exactly. You copy the contents of the old account folder (your old "John Doe" directory) over the contents of the new account directory. But wait! Before you copy the old files over the new files, *please* back up the *new* files to a different location, so that - once you have found the problematic account - you can go back to the set of new files by copying them over again. And btw. - when you copy the old account folders and their subfolders back into place, you'll also restore your old messages (and eventually will find your original TB registration message). >>4.When you found the problematic account, try to remove/rename the >>account configuration files (account.xxx) one by one. You will >>eventually find the configuration file that is causing the problems. > Okay. I find 6 "account configuration files (account.xxx) in the "old" > Bat file. > Account.~FLB > Account.CFG > Account.CFN > Account.FLB > Account.FLX > Account.SRB > I assume those are the "account configuration files" that you're referring > too? Correct, those are the files. If there are more in one or the other directory (for example, a file "account.qtn" contains the Quick Templates, if you have any), copy all of them. > What if I end up with the same problem that brought me here in the > first place? Of course the old & corrupted file we're trying to find will not work again all of a sudden. :-) At one point when you copied over another set of configuration files, your TB *will* hang again for sure. At this point, you know now which account contains the faulty configuration file. If that happens, you go back to the new set of configuration files you backed up before. Then move the old files back again, but this time, not all at once, but one after the other. Copy one configuration file, restart TB, still works? Quit TB, copy the next configuration file, restart TB, still works? And so on... until you've found the faulty file. There still one more thing you may be missing when you're thru all this: your address book, and your common filters. Those are not in any of the account directories, but in the root "Mail" directory. Be sure to copy these old files back, too. > I need a beer... I don't have any beer at home right now, a glass of red wine maybe? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The effort to reconcile science and religion is almost always made, not by theologians, but by scientists unable to shake off altogether the piety absorbed with their mother's milk. -- H. L. Mencken Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ctrl - Alt - Del
Hello Alexander, On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 08:37:51 +0200 GMT (06/08/2005, 13:37 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK> FWIW, for a couple of days 3.5.30 was the release version downloadable for ASK> everyone on the RL website I guess I'm not the only one getting confused about which version is a beta and which is a release, now that it is not obvious from the version number any more. Anyway, the bug's been fixed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Wem Du's heute kannst besorgen, dem besorge es auch morgen. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using The Bat! to retrieve Hot Mail
Hello Roelof, Sunday, August 7, 2005, 11:45:56 AM, you wrote: > I don't use hotmail, but did you ever try Web2Pop? > It's not free though, $19/user. > http://www.jmasoftware.com/english/index.html says they did the last > hotmail update on my birthday. Thanks Roelof, will give it a try. As I said, hate using the Web Interface and would rather use TB! to handle all the e-mail. Going to there web site right now. :) -- Best regards, Michaelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat! to retrieve Hot Mail
Hallo Michael, On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 11:07:24 -0500GMT (7-8-2005, 18:07 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MA>I was wondering if anyone is using anything to retrieve Hot Mail MA>messages besides "Freepops"? I was using it for the past few MA>months and last week something changed and I can not retrieve my MA>Hot Mail messages any longer. I don't use hotmail, but did you ever try Web2Pop? It's not free though, $19/user. http://www.jmasoftware.com/english/index.html says they did the last hotmail update on my birthday. -- Groetjes, Roelof Uh, yeah...I MEANT to do that! The Bat! 3.51.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpvgXxcDRH4V.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Reward offered!
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 10:59:24 AM, you wrote: HJM>> And thanks to the help of several folks here, and for which I HJM>> will always be grateful, I have now managed to salvage my old key HJM>> from an old backup, too, and that pathetic nag screen is finally HJM>> gone. > If you provide S/N next time and I can identify you, I can resend your > reg. key for no charge. Thanks for the offer. I've already sent a request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking for just that (and I explained who I was, etc., although I didn't include my serial number). I'm up and running again, thanks to some really nice folks here, but I'd still like a copy of my actual key sent to me so that I can take it down to the bank and put it into my deposit box. > Just a note: guys at RL are not sick. They protect their investment. I have no problem whatsoever with software companies protecting their investments. I'm with you a 100% on that matter. I'm not even against nag screens. But *your* nag screen policy could only have been designed by the Marquis De Sade himself. Whoever designed it is, in effect, saying that "I'm going to drive this poor SOB so freakin' crazy with nag screens that he'll either pay up quick (which is like saying that you don't really have a 30 day "trial period" after all), or you'll drive him completely away (and lose a sale). That doesn't sound very customer oriented to me. A nag screen for a "free" 30 day trial should appear, at most, each and every time the user opens the program -- not hundreds and hundreds of time per day., for crissakes. Not to mention the real cutesy trick of continually switching the sides on the "Exit" and "Okay" buttons, which only reinforces what I said about this guy being a sick0. Either you want people to actually put TB through its paces for 30 days, or you don't. But driving folks NUTSO with nag screens is just so sick, IMO. > When layers, doctors etc. will work free, But lawyers, doctors, etc. aren't trying to sell you SOFTWARE. A better comparison would be new car salesman. "Here, buddy, take this model out for a test drive and see how you like it! I have to tag along with you though, and slap you upside the head with a fish every several seconds. My boss doesn't think you'll buy the car if I don't." Give me a break. -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using The Bat! to retrieve Hot Mail
Hello All, I was wondering if anyone is using anything to retrieve Hot Mail messages besides "Freepops"? I was using it for the past few months and last week something changed and I can not retrieve my Hot Mail messages any longer. I have updated Freepops and the Hotmail.LUA, but it still does not work. Does anyone have any other program that might work with The Bat!? I hate going to the Web Interface to get messages. Just wondering if anyone had any suggestions. Thanks in advance... -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Reward offered!
Saturday, August 6, 2005, 11:52:34 PM, you wrote: > Hi Handsome, > On Sat, 6 Aug 2005, at 21:08:41 [GMT-0400] (which was Sun, 11:08:41 > Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: >> But thanks again for all of your help and your especially warm response! >> Sheesh. > Time to relax! That's easy for you to say... -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 5:45:34 AM, you wrote: > Hello Handsome Jack Morrison & everyone else, > on 07-Aug-2005 at 00:57 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote: >> Will there be conflicts because of that, if and when I ever do attempt to >> re-import the "old" data into my new version of TB? > If you want to import ONLY the message, no problem. > If you want to import your old settings, filters, templates, no good. In > that case, use the old account names. You can trust Curtis. Its better to > rename the accounts later. Oh, I trust him, Alexander. I'm just exploring my options. So, okay. I'd like to preserve the settings in several of my accounts, especially the templates in one of them. I've now renamed each Account the way they are named in my "old" Bat file. Your instructions said to: >3. Re-create your accounts as they were before (same names, same pathes >for mail directories) - one by one. I think I've done that now. I always use the default path for mail directories, so I should be good there, too. >For each account you created, copy the files you backed up before >back, then check to see if the program is still running. That way, >you can identify the account thats giving you the headache. I have some more questions about the above. What files do I copy over, and to where do I copy them? For example, there's a folder in the "old" file (in the MAIL directory) that is named "John Doe." Do I copy that file *over* the "John Doe" folder in my "new" Bat files? I.e., do I select the old "John Doe" folder, type Ctrl-C, move to the new "John Doe" folder, select it, and then type Ctrl-V? And when you say "check to see if the program is running" do you mean that I should then try to open TB? >4.When you found the problematic account, try to remove/rename the >account configuration files (account.xxx) one by one. You will >eventually find the configuration file that is causing the problems. Okay. I find 6 "account configuration files (account.xxx) in the "old" Bat file. Account.~FLB Account.CFG Account.CFN Account.FLB Account.FLX Account.SRB I assume those are the "account configuration files" that you're referring too? So, if, for example, TB doesn't open up after copying over the "John Doe" file, I should go back into the "new" Bat files and remove/rename, one at a time, each of those accounts (e.g., Account.CFN, etc.)? Which makes me think that TB recreates them each time it's loaded if one (or more) of them isn't already there, right? What if I end up with the same problem that brought me here in the first place? I need a beer... A little more hand-holding, please! -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Reward offered!
HJM> And thanks to the help of several folks here, and for which I HJM> will always be grateful, I have now managed to salvage my old key HJM> from an old backup, too, and that pathetic nag screen is finally HJM> gone. If you provide S/N next time and I can identify you, I can resend your reg. key for no charge. Just a note: guys at RL are not sick. They protect their investment. When layers, doctors etc. will work free, THEN can anyone claim against any nag screen in softwares... -- Vilimailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5
On Sunday, August 07, 2005 at 4:45:34 AM [GMT -0500], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: > You can trust Curtis. Thanks for the certification. : -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.51.10 System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name -=-=- Oxymoron: Steel wool. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB!'s dictionaries--German language
Hello Roelof, > No matter what you think, it used to mean German. ;-) but the ID 'GE'(%LANGUAGE="GE") don't work with the new dictionaries, you must use: %LANGUAGE="GN" (New spelling) %LANGUAGE="GO" (Old spelling) %LANGUAGE="CSAPI GE" -- Best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5
Hello Handsome Jack Morrison & everyone else, on 07-Aug-2005 at 00:57 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote: > Will there be conflicts because of that, if and when I ever do attempt to > re-import the "old" data into my new version of TB? If you want to import ONLY the message, no problem. If you want to import your old settings, filters, templates, no good. In that case, use the old account names. You can trust Curtis. Its better to rename the accounts later. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) If any man can see both sides of a given problem, you can rest assured that he had a hand in it's creation. -- Todd H. Knight Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: English (British) Dictionary
Hello MAU, > See attached PNGs. Sorry :-( I thought I was in TBBeta where small attachments are allowed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: English (British) Dictionary
Hello Mary, > Great to have you back, Miguel! Don't get too excited, I'm only back partially ;-) > If it's not installed, he may have found a bug in 3.51.10. I don't think so. > Or he may just have identified a bug local to his own machine. I'd say a peculiar configuration more than a bug. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: English (British) Dictionary
Hello Greg, >> And if you have Office 97 installed in the same machine than TB, then TB >> should see the CSAPI dics automagically. > > Ok, then please answer the question why in MicroEd does the word > 'email' show up as misspelled when under the menu 'Spell Checker | > 'Language' 'American English' is selected and Word 97 the word 'email' > is correct? First, even if TB is seeing your CSAPI dictionaries, you have to select one of them to use it. It looks like you are still using the American English from TB's intpack. > Do subsequent installations of TB over previous versions of the TB > which occur after the installation of Office 97 find the CSAPI engine? They should. But I haven't had Office97 as such installed in my system for many moon. TB does see the "installation" (reg keys, etc) that I have for Office97 dics, though. > Does TB UI still have the splitter line in the 'Language' submenu even > after the UI has been completely re-written? Yes,although depending on where you look the order may be reversed. See attached PNGs. The second one is the context menu from the editor's status bar. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: English (British) Dictionary
Hello Greg, >> But in The Bat!/MAIL I see these two entries: >> eng_uk.dic >> eng_us.dic > > No! > >> Could those be the lines that you've trying to identify, that you need >> to add to TB! in order to have the MS Office 97 CSAPI on your machine? > > Maybe! I do not know why Office 97 would put them there. AFAIK those are user dics to add words, etc. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: English (British) Dictionary
Hello Greg, > I then loaded my .reg file from your earlier email. I NOW have 'CSAPI > spell checker' in the user that is also an ADMINISTRATOR, but do NOT > in the LIMITED user. Well, that's an achievement, isn't it? :) > So the issue now becomes apparently rights on a NT system for a > limited user to access the 'CSAPI spell checker'. Or maybe fiddling a little with the registry. I always login as administrator and have no other users in my machine, so I can't be of any help here. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: TB and multiple desktops
On Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 1:41:07 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote: > Hello Group > On Tuesday, August 2, 2005, 3:00:42 PM, G. wrote: >> On Tuesday, August 2, 2005, 11:20:27 PM, Jeff Gaines wrote: >>> OK, I've down-loaded and installed it. TheBat! stays on Desk 1 for me, >>> you haven't perhaps set TheBat! up as 'sticky'? >> Sorry, didn't read your reply properly - no I haven't. > Well I made it 'sticky' and it followed me around, then I removed it > from the sticky list and it's back to desk1 - and stays there. > It's a neat app but I can't reproduce your problem, sorry. Finally tracked down the problem, and as it was a setting in TB preferences I thought I'd share it: "Always show icon in system tray" needs to be disabled... -- Regards, G. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.5 Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
