Re: IMAP dumb question re sent mail boxes
On 2/2/2006 at 7:04:17 PM [GMT -0500], Dwight A Corrin wrote: > I looked thru whole thing multiple times, and finally decided that > must be the spot. I unchecked the box I think you mean, then got > interrupted so wasn't around to watch the connection centre and see if > the new sent folder it make is local or remote. Only know that it's a > different sent folder than was created and used before I switched from > a local to remote sent mail in the first place. I see that the 'on the fly' transition still isn't so smooth. However, with a restart, the local Sent folder will now be the one used. If you still see another 'sent' folder, it's the one no longer in use. One would normally just unsubscribe from it to get it out of view. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.70.06 "Qigong" (Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Oxymoron: Virtual Reality. pgpTBqzkbLT4P.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative icon sets
Hello Mary, Thursday, February 2, 2006, 3:46:34 PM, you wrote: MB> You can change the size of icons in a folder called batskin.xml, MB> in the main directory of The Bat!, I think. Can't find it. I have changed icons for other programs. It usually involved downloading a new set. -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.65.03 under Windows XP Professional/5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 (0 days 10:23:36) on Uno AMD Athlon MP pgp key: http://sfrederick.com/keys/ Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP dumb question re sent mail boxes
On Thursday, February 2, 2006, 5:24:49 PM, Curtis wrote: >> Problem is that I don't seem to be able to find the spot to change >> the setting. > The only way to do that seems to be to switch to using a local 'Sent' > folder. This can be changed via the account properties/mail management. I looked thru whole thing multiple times, and finally decided that must be the spot. I unchecked the box I think you mean, then got interrupted so wasn't around to watch the connection centre and see if the new sent folder it make is local or remote. Only know that it's a different sent folder than was created and used before I switched from a local to remote sent mail in the first place. Thanks. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.70.06 "Qigong" (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative icon sets
Hello Scott! On Thursday, February 02, 2006, 4:51 PM, you wrote: > In particular I would like to use a smaller icon set than the set > that comes with the current version. You can change the size of icons in a folder called batskin.xml, in the main directory of The Bat!, I think. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.70.07 "Qigong" (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
Robin Anson waved a wand then said : > Good thinking 99! MAXWELL !!! Answer your bloody shoe !! -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP dumb question re sent mail boxes
On 2/2/2006 at 6:07:38 PM [GMT -0500], Dwight A Corrin wrote: > I am trying to send 4 rather large files. I discovered that this is > being greatly slowed because after the whole message gets sent to the > sender, it is getting sent again, to put it in the remote sent folder. > Usually I like my mail to go there, but for the next 3 files I'd like > to switch. > Problem is that I don't seem to be able to find the spot to change the > setting. The only way to do that seems to be to switch to using a local 'Sent' folder. This can be changed via the account properties/mail management. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.70.06 "Qigong" (Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...You guys got something against spam? (Vriess, in _Alien 4_) pgpr6KAyLWBRK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wireless, Bat & K9 spam filter
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 at 18:05:13 +1100, John wrote: > Unable to get mail using wireless hot spots with Bat & K9, although I can > send mail. I thought the wireless hot spots (i.e. the ones around the city in Sydney and Melbourne, occasionally free in coffee shops, otherwise pay by credit card) only allowed http connections. I could be wrong, I only looked at it once, came to that conclusion and thought I'd look at it later when I worked out how to tunnel pop and smtp through http. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.3 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 at 17:42:20 +0100, Maurice wrote: > Logically, I guess, if I stopped trying to access my email for a week, > I would be free of the problem for a good seven days... Good thinking 99! -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.3 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP dumb question re sent mail boxes
I am trying to send 4 rather large files. I discovered that this is being greatly slowed because after the whole message gets sent to the sender, it is getting sent again, to put it in the remote sent folder. Usually I like my mail to go there, but for the next 3 files I'd like to switch. Problem is that I don't seem to be able to find the spot to change the setting. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.70.06 "Qigong" (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Alternative icon sets
Hello TBUDL, Are there any alternative icon sets for The Bat! v3? There used to be some for the earlier versions. In particular I would like to use a smaller icon set than the set that comes with the current version. -- Best regards, Scott mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.65.03 under Windows XP Professional/5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 (0 days 7:21:36) on Uno AMD Athlon MP pgp key: http://sfrederick.com/keys/ Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin to integrate The Bat! with Google Desktop
>> I have to assume this plugin was talked about in this list or in TBUDL, >> where was I then? ASK> It was indeed talking about quite a while ago when an earlier version ASK> wasn't running for most people. :-) I did some testing with the developer to fix the issues spoke about here... It seems those things are indeed fixed but there is another item on the wish list... At present (read: "Last I heard") the plugin requires you to select folders to index from the plugin properties screen in TB! The issue is that if you create a new folder and have selected to index ALL folders it is still not included for indexing. Rich -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin to integrate The Bat! with Google Desktop
Hello Alexander, >> I have to assume this plugin was talked about in this list or in TBUDL, >> where was I then? > > It was indeed talking about quite a while ago when an earlier version > wasn't running for most people. :-) Just can't remember. My only neurone left seems to be on strike today ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.70.07 "Qigong" (Beta) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin to integrate The Bat! with Google Desktop
Hello all, Thursday, February 2, 2006, Roman Katzer wrote: > "System requirements: > Microsoft Windows XP > Google Desktop 2.0 > The Bat! 2.04.08" > TB2? I've been on TB3 for a while now. Does that work aswell? I have discussed this with author and he tested in in TB 3.62.14 too with no problems. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.70.07 "Qigong" (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin to integrate The Bat! with Google Desktop
On 02/02/06, Alexander S. Kunz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was indeed talking about quite a while ago when an earlier version > wasn't running for most people. :-) "System requirements: Microsoft Windows XP Google Desktop 2.0 The Bat! 2.04.08" TB2? I've been on TB3 for a while now. Does that work aswell? Roman -- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin to integrate The Bat! with Google Desktop
Hello MAU & everyone else, on 02-Feb-2006 at 22:12 you (MAU) wrote: > I have to assume this plugin was talked about in this list or in TBUDL, > where was I then? It was indeed talking about quite a while ago when an earlier version wasn't running for most people. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) It's unfortunate, but the way the American people are, now that they have developed all of this capability, instead of taking advantage of it, they'll probably just piss it all away. -- President Lyndon B. Johnson, speaking about project Apollo Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL Digest, Vol 207, Issue 3 [ The ultimate Virus...!!!??)
Hallo Stephen, On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 06:26:28 +1100GMT (2-2-2006, 20:26 +0100, where I live), you wrote: SL> "The ultimate Virus, a self-installing copy of Bob." SL> What the...??? Just shows my age. For the rest I only can say that this is rather off topic. -- Groetjes, Roelof It is hard to believe that even his friends like him. The Bat! 3.70.07 "Qigong" (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpvWZXGxjf9D.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin to integrate The Bat! with Google Desktop
Hello Alexander, >> I searched TB's Wish List and couldn't find a similar wish. So I have >> just logged a new one at: > >> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5648 > > There already is a TB plugin for GD available. > > Programmers site (beware, very slow): > http://www.vgirlos2.narod.ru/gd.html > > Alternative download locations: > http://thebat.pl/files/GoogleDesktopTheBatInstaller.exe > http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=visit&lid=230 Yes, I was also advised about this in TBBeta were I have just written: And a very good plugin I must admit. How come I didn't know about it? I have to assume this plugin was talked about in this list or in TBUDL, where was I then? Great plugin! Thanks. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.70.07 "Qigong" (Beta) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wireless, Bat & K9 spam filter
Hi Alexander, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, at 19:29:59 [GMT+0100] (which was Fri, 5:29:59 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: > y default, K9 listens on port , and not 110 (pop3 default). Thanks, that is set up correctly. On ADSL in Holiday Inn right now; all working fine. Any other clues? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 "The average woman would rather have beauty than brains, because the average man can see better than he can think." Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wireless, Bat & K9 spam filter
Hi Roelof, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, at 13:34:13 [GMT+0100] (which was 23:34:13 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: > First thing that comes to mind is that it's a K9 issue. After all it > doesn't matter to TB as it's always downloading from localhost. Thinking about it, it may be the wireless provider issue. All worked fine until recently; wondering if they changed something at their end? Of course, asking the drones who work in their "service" area is hopeless at the best of times - if it ain't Outofluck Express or Outofluck you are using, you're out of luck! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 How come there's only one Monopolies Commission? Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 2 Feb 2006, @ @ at 14:37:05 -0500, when Robert D. wrote: > Por la Mica : I don't see the messages about too frequent email checks > when this has happened/is happening ... I have SEEN those type > messages but you certainly realise that IF I am able to see the "Don't > bother gmx message" then CC DID function correctly. If I had known that you have seen them, I would realize that, yes. > And what is Bian Fu: and who much do I owe him? Bian Fu is La Chauve-Souris in Chinese. It might be both she and he. You do owe them both good and bad moments in your e-mailing life. Including the CC's lethargy/numbness. Btw, do you have male or female copy of Komori? (: - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 519 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my "From|Reply To" field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ+JnB7SpHvHEUtv8AQPO3QgAsdsqcpfG79qIq1Vz3TY1t79KfBfDI0nb cWuIFcTDcqOrVJpGCq8oX7XW5mP4AEoss5cqajd8lT5XyzemEeKiRcXZeV+ZLLIc Wfa2aNf7UNPTJcO3HMDzHJSigiDntRbOaCedhB9abtukjTVwJVLXJNjKNAGosk3z EIgGV7X9eEXq/buK977s0kNObgSVIvtzse9OoJzEJ3xkizi6lyFPPTg7es3QNFag MKguHQf6sPt8pIuNwlD3u1vmhD3CMJSBvsMZUFceZTXuhFH3QFiMlpAjquLQMvr9 Cg33IlVMqobWvClfYMWWpytGrnqNB9CDK6KHKMlxXnBC9UZP4Ag2UA== =aVQ1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 2 Feb 2006, @ @ at 11:39:40 -0600, when WL wrote: >> CC usually freezes for other reasons rather, mostly related to Bian >> Fu's "plugins", specific settings/maintenance and OS's issues. > Actually, I'm pretty sure the probelm stems from The Bat, > and its handling of network connections. > Try going through something like a proxy, k9 for examle. > I've written about this before: once all of The Bat's traffic > is routed through a proxy of some sort (k9 and something > homebrew), my connection center issues went away. Things > will usually time out properly. If it doesn't, I can at least > always delete the task, etc. Both might be the case, I agree. I can just tell/report what I practise, if that can be of some help to others, namely... I choose a version which is (enough) stable (otherwise "fixing/reporting bugs" might become an endless process and a "merriment for/of millions", while the action/work limps). I must confess and unbosom that I have no much patience/time with/for buggy software, and am rather prone to change it and/or apply some workaround or a specific routine, than to work and spend my time (additionally) on what is actually programer's duty. If someone makes a program with just few -+ irrelevant bugs, or even without them, that's okay for me. But if a program is constantly flooded with those insects which are actually quite relevant, influencing thus its functionality, then I get rid of it, I kick it out and take something I can do my work with. In the case of Komori! it's a "clean" application (no "plugins", no jokes) and as fewer interactions as possible with "outer" programs. With The Flying Mammal! having that powerful, in general, filtering system, with a little bit of an "once-but-for-ever" work, no additional anti-spam program is needed at all. Those and such are the charms of La Chauve-Souris! - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 519 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my "From|Reply To" field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ+JelbSpHvHEUtv8AQOOSgf/XDP7+yA4g37e4aHmDTGe2bD+rO/VrgdE KqB9/k//oOJ046gzeqqO5knCYOwXdO8lzBrDmAqZkLkG7odofnqaHSqEjJPP+ZxO 76gMhaWEyz4Ys0PPCgoAWsOFxytMYVL/FKZuqRV19KGhAMEO5IIGBfh864eMJRem J24bw4tSucfDD4fS7RorOFj5J8/BPGFLoVRV82sPKu25U1n2sPTky20fd1sDdJ0N EKffzNfInqEnfcpJKAheRVwJH61xoIi70Yg1tdHYltGXVEo5uc0e19uocBXd2GHk 3XEtnsPrHjfe4KLYEfgYsFQaBYMxo5x7imtywx0zNkv/7JCoYkBQTA== =X+MX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL Digest, Vol 207, Issue 3 [ The ultimate Virus...!!!??)
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 05:30:24 +1100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Groetjes, Roelof The ultimate Virus, a self-installing copy of Bob. The Bat! 3.70.06 "Qigong" (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM "The ultimate Virus, a self-installing copy of Bob." What the...??? :-) -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
Recently, WL opined : > Try going through something like a proxy, k9 for examle. Yes, OK, I will give it a try. Por la Mica : I don't see the messages about too frequent email checks when this has happened/is happening ... I have SEEN those type messages but you certainly realise that IF I am able to see the "Don't bother gmx message" then CC DID function correctly. And I have varied timeout to no avail And what is Bian Fu: and who much do I owe him? -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
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~( __ _"o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 2 Feb 2006,
@ @ at 15:55:24 +0100, when Mica Mijatovic wrote:
> I don't think it is a GMX issue, since they will rather leave a
> message ("too frequent login, try later" or similar), in "Log Panel",
> and in no way will block Bian Fu.
Those are server's messages like this...
!4306-05-29, 12:03:07: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is:
- -ERR logged in too frequently, try again in 3 minute(s).
...where the number of minutes may wary, from one to 7, 8, 9 etc. Or
messages like this...
!4305-06-18, 22:48:05: SEND - Server reports error. The response is:
4.3.2 {mp013} Too many mails (mass delivery by gmx user), try again in 7
minute(s)
...and this...
!4305-12-11, 23:56:31: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is:
- -ERR System temporarily unavailable, please try again later...
...etc.
- --
Mica
PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/
[Earth LOG: 519 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing]
OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium
Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes,
Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine...
~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given
in my "From|Reply To" field(s). ~~~
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Re: Wireless, Bat & K9 spam filter
Hello John Phillips & everyone else, on 02-Feb-2006 at 08:05 you (John Phillips) wrote: > POP Server 127.0.0.1 By default, K9 listens on port , and not 110 (pop3 default). That may be the culprit. I forget it each time I install K9 for someone. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: "Bhakti" (10:18) by Ishq from the album 'Orchid (CD1)' Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 2 Feb 2006, @ @ at 17:42:20 +0100, when Maurice McAdam wrote: > Logically, I guess, if I stopped trying to access my email for a week, > I would be free of the problem for a good seven days... Hahaha... Exactly. That's why some people retreat (in)to monasteries. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 519 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my "From|Reply To" field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ+JO97SpHvHEUtv8AQPfYAgAi1HuKzYKtZTtsf84NSnjYsPTpNWea/ri QF/rGakFG2sp0ESs+WAPECbEQxgzdSv3Lb2FfVjXF1gcXA+uGR67mHUd+svtne3d mmV20IkLt9JEpHMy3//qDtbPFzi4F+jrwAznbi9qVvo6zR9fbVcnxNYbH4PU2qs9 aBw52M51kW60yX+oiRXMEuSWcfQQT3cqfgoePMsvK2FHHX37mGMw1Wdh+fRrBYsE cIkXw+0EmX1jfs6CdDQB/9mvRfSK7T17R7BRosKx+jg1AnUjuGZI4/DSrj05FBXI 2dyLjanvJsnywgj9g1UUTbu5VmHFD/k0Xq9AvgCfTrsyrw7R1BtKIg== =oW/g -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin to integrate The Bat! with Google Desktop
Hello MAU & everyone else, on 02-Feb-2006 at 14:06 you (MAU) wrote: > I searched TB's Wish List and couldn't find a similar wish. So I have > just logged a new one at: > https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5648 There already is a TB plugin for GD available. Programmers site (beware, very slow): http://www.vgirlos2.narod.ru/gd.html Alternative download locations: http://thebat.pl/files/GoogleDesktopTheBatInstaller.exe http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=visit&lid=230 -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: "Cyandragonfly" (13:27) by Ishq from the album 'Orchid (CD1)' Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
On 2/2/06, Mica Mijatovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > >***^\ ."_)~~ > ~( __ _"o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 2 Feb 2006, >@ @ at 08:29:17 -0500, when Robert D. wrote: > > >> I don't know how much bandwidth you've got with gmx, > > > not sure it's, as such, bandwidth. That is to say, _when_ I see it > > fail, as it is now for 1.6 hours according to the CC, it tried to get > > mail and never seemed to get out of that mode. And that is typically > > how it fails a first-in-an-hour email-check then fails without > > making it through. > > If CC works properly then it abides to the "Server Timeout", which is > usually about 60 seconds (Account | Properties | Transport). If > connection is not established within this time, CC simply closes/dismiss > this account, for the session. I suppose this is part of the same problem. I've had the connection center hang for days before. > CC usually freezes for other reasons rather, mostly related to Bian Fu's > "plugins", specific settings/maintenance and OS's issues. Actually, I'm pretty sure the probelm stems from The Bat, and its handling of network connections. Try going through something like a proxy, k9 for examle. I've written about this before: once all of The Bat's traffic is routed through a proxy of some sort (k9 and something homebrew), my connection center issues went away. Things will usually time out properly. If it doesn't, I can at least always delete the task, etc. -- WL Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
Hello Roelof, On Thursday, February 2, 2006, 1:28:18 PM, which was 5:23:45 PM where I am, you wrote: RO> On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:52:59 -0500GMT (2-2-2006, 12:52 +0100, where I RO> live), you wrote: RD>> From time to time, as right now, CC hangs up when ostensibly trying to RD>> check mail on one email account. The one it is hung on currently is RD>> GMX and is **usually** this one too. RO> That's a long time issue. When an already established connection with RO> a server fails, the CC (and TB) gets stuck. RO> It's not very strange that it's the same server most of the time, RO> because it has something to do with the quality of your connection to RO> the server and gmx is supposed to be on the other side of the world RO> for you. I've had the same problem for many months now, despite ADSL and a local ISP. RO> Of course it can be related to the time you're connected to the RO> server, suppose you get ten times as much mail from gmx as from the RO> rest, then it's got ten times as likely that that connection fails RO> when you've got a bad connection from your ISP. RO> So, in other words: It's a known issue and it's not strange that it's RO> often the same connection. RO> I don't know how much bandwidth you've got with gmx, but you could RO> consider to check the mail less frequently. That lessens the chance of RO> failure. I find that a rather strange suggestion. I have arranged my settings so that TB! downloads mail on startup; I've also tried to download, only when I do Ctrl-F2, with many shades in-between (I even purchased the Professional Edition), but all with very relative degrees of success. Logically, I guess, if I stopped trying to access my email for a week, I would be free of the problem for a good seven days... -- Regards, Maurice Using The Bat! 3.65.03 on Windows XP Pro 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
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~( __ _"o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 2 Feb 2006,
@ @ at 08:29:17 -0500, when Robert D. wrote:
>> I don't know how much bandwidth you've got with gmx,
> not sure it's, as such, bandwidth. That is to say, _when_ I see it
> fail, as it is now for 1.6 hours according to the CC, it tried to get
> mail and never seemed to get out of that mode. And that is typically
> how it fails a first-in-an-hour email-check then fails without
> making it through.
If CC works properly then it abides to the "Server Timeout", which is
usually about 60 seconds (Account | Properties | Transport). If
connection is not established within this time, CC simply closes/dismiss
this account, for the session.
I don't think it is a GMX issue, since they will rather leave a message
("too frequent login, try later" or similar), in "Log Panel", and in no
way will block Bian Fu. At least it never happen to me, having few GMX
accounts for years, and some of them working quite a lot. Else, as I
know, capacity of GMX Mailbox is 1 GB (for free accounts, and for pro
ones much more), so a "pause" in checking for mail even of few days
should not be a problem.
CC usually freezes for other reasons rather, mostly related to Bian Fu's
"plugins", specific settings/maintenance and OS's issues.
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Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
Hello Robert, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 at 06:52:59 -0500, (which is 02.02.2006 at 13:52:59 +2000 where I live), you wrote: > I can not _Delete Task_ . I can not _Abort All_. I must bring up the > task manager and Kill TB! Poor Fledermaus !! I don't know the resoultion but the same issue was happening here when checking my GMX acount a few months ago. I found CC hung when I came back and see the status bar many times. That problem only occured in my GMX account. However now everything seems to be ok. -- Best regards, Zeynel Abidin Öztürk :flag-turkey: Running The Bat! v3.70.06 "Qigong" (Beta) Translation of Turkish The Bat! Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wireless, Bat & K9 spam filter
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 13:34:13 +0100 Roelof Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hallo John, > >On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:05:13 +1100GMT (2-2-2006, 8:05 >+0100, where I >live), you wrote: > >JP> Unable to get mail using wireless hot spots with Bat & >K9, although I can >JP> send mail. > >First thing that comes to mind is that it's a K9 issue. >After all it >doesn't matter to TB as it's always downloading from >localhost. > The first thing that struck me was, Is the SMTP agent really sending? Or is it queueing until it finds a healthy connection? As far as TB is concerned it was able to successfully send -> to the SMTP agent. So it would appear to TB your mail was sent. Cricket -- At work, using email web interface. They wont let me use TB here :( Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shortcuts Conflicts and Shortcut Collections
Hallo Allen, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:21:49 -0500GMT (2-2-2006, 14:21 +0100, where I live), you wrote: AD>>> Don't know about how to detect conflicts or is the answer "No" ? >> I forgot that. But the answer is 'No'. AD> Ouch -- has there been any chatter about conflict detection being AD> added? Chatter enough, but only wishes, no promises. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof "The Babylon Project was our last, best hope for peace. It failed." The Bat! 3.70.07 "Qigong" (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpIV9KLQgctA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
Recently, Roelof Otten squawked : > I don't know how much bandwidth you've got with gmx, not sure it's, as such, bandwidth. That is to say, _when_ I see it fail, as it is now for 1.6 hours according to the CC, it tried to get mail and never seemed to get out of that mode. And that is typically how it fails a first-in-an-hour email-check then fails without making it through. Now, I always press _check mail for all_ and that may be the REAL issue. But I have never just tried, for a month solid, to check as individual ... but will suspect that it would fix the issue indeed. Tell you what. I will check the box that says "ignore this account on" and just do GMX manually for a week or so. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Shortcuts Conflicts and Shortcut Collections
Hello Roelof, Thursday, February 2, 2006, 8:10:32 AM, you wrote: > Hallo Allen, > On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 07:46:07 -0500GMT (2-2-2006, 13:46 +0100, where I > live), you wrote: AD>> Don't know about how to detect conflicts or is AD>> the answer "No" ? > I forgot that. But the answer is 'No'. Ouch -- has there been any chatter about conflict detection being added? -- Remember, no matter where you go, there you are. Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shortcuts Conflicts and Shortcut Collections
Hallo Allen, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 07:46:07 -0500GMT (2-2-2006, 13:46 +0100, where I live), you wrote: AD> Don't know about how to detect conflicts or is AD> the answer "No" ? I forgot that. But the answer is 'No'. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows '95 = Mac O/S '84 The Bat! 3.70.07 "Qigong" (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpaluzcXMlft.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Plugin to integrate The Bat! with Google Desktop
Hello all, I searched TB's Wish List and couldn't find a similar wish. So I have just logged a new one at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5648 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.70.07 "Qigong" (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Shortcuts Conflicts and Shortcut Collections
Hello Roelof, Thursday, February 2, 2006, 7:38:09 AM, you wrote: > You can add actions to the shortcut collection and assign shortcuts to > it, so you won't have to add them to your menu or toolbar. Ah, gotcha -- thanks. Don't know about how to detect conflicts or is the answer "No" ? -- Remember, no matter where you go, there you are. The Bat! 3.65.03 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shortcuts Conflicts and Shortcut Collections
Hallo Allen, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 07:06:49 -0500GMT (2-2-2006, 13:06 +0100, where I live), you wrote: AD> What's the shortcut collection for? You can add actions to the shortcut collection and assign shortcuts to it, so you won't have to add them to your menu or toolbar. -- Groetjes, Roelof If at first you don't succeed, you must be using Windows. The Bat! 3.70.06 "Qigong" (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpkLGTYGUfrE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wireless, Bat & K9 spam filter
Hallo John, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:05:13 +1100GMT (2-2-2006, 8:05 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JP> Unable to get mail using wireless hot spots with Bat & K9, although I can JP> send mail. First thing that comes to mind is that it's a K9 issue. After all it doesn't matter to TB as it's always downloading from localhost. -- Groetjes, Roelof "Second star to the right, and straight on 'til morning." - Kirk The Bat! 3.70.06 "Qigong" (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpgecD0snvC7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to change settings for all accounts easily
Hallo Tom, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:05:24 +1100GMT (2-2-2006, 8:05 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TL> is there any way to change something across all accounts TL> if so desired? No. -- Groetjes, Roelof Forget RTFM - Call The Author At Home! (@ 23:45) The Bat! 3.70.06 "Qigong" (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpAkD9Ggugml.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
Hallo Robert, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:52:59 -0500GMT (2-2-2006, 12:52 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RD> From time to time, as right now, CC hangs up when ostensibly trying to RD> check mail on one email account. The one it is hung on currently is RD> GMX and is **usually** this one too. That's a long time issue. When an already established connection with a server fails, the CC (and TB) gets stuck. It's not very strange that it's the same server most of the time, because it has something to do with the quality of your connection to the server and gmx is supposed to be on the other side of the world for you. Of course it can be related to the time you're connected to the server, suppose you get ten times as much mail from gmx as from the rest, then it's got ten times as likely that that connection fails when you've got a bad connection from your ISP. So, in other words: It's a known issue and it's not strange that it's often the same connection. I don't know how much bandwidth you've got with gmx, but you could consider to check the mail less frequently. That lessens the chance of failure. (Unless every connection with gmx is already downloading mail) -- Groetjes, Roelof The ultimate Virus, a self-installing copy of Bob. The Bat! 3.70.06 "Qigong" (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp0zyPxLwQv6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Shortcuts Conflicts and Shortcut Collections
After a bit of a hiatus from the luxuries of The Bat/client-side mail I've come to find a few things changed. While the new interface for editing shortcuts/toolbars/menus is most certainly improved from the way I remember it. I'm having a couple of prolbems with it, however. First, conflicts--is there no way to tell if there are conflicting shortcuts or am I missing something? Also, there are a few items called "Shortcut Collection" -- where I'd expected to find all the shortcuts for the parent container, however this isn't the case--there are shortcuts listed, but by no means all/most of them. What's the shortcut collection for? Thanks A. -- Remember, no matter where you go, there you are. The Bat! 3.65.03 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Trouble with Connection Centre
From time to time, as right now, CC hangs up when ostensibly trying to check mail on one email account. The one it is hung on currently is GMX and is **usually** this one too. I can not _Delete Task_ . I can not _Abort All_. I must bring up the task manager and Kill TB! Poor Fledermaus !! Is this something that happens to others more specifically on certain Mail Servers? Does this happen regularly to many Fledermaüsers -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.70.06 "Qigong" (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
how to change settings for all accounts easily
Hello Everyone, was just reading about the issue of how TB forwards emails in mime formatting depending on how it is set up. On checking my accounts I noticed that all accounts had that box ticked. I don't think I did that and think it was by default but that's not the issue of my question. I now changed all my accounts manually to have this unticked. I fully appreciate the option of having different settings for different accounts but is there any way to change something across all accounts if so desired? If I want all accounts to play a sound when mail arrives, is there no possibility to do this once and then instruct TB to do this for all accounts? -- Best regards, Tom using TB 3.65.03 on XP Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
