Re[2]: ISP's Blocking TheBat
In reply to : rg>> Once upon a time some spammer(s) did choose to use TB! due to it's rg>> configuriblity. This lead to some ISPs decision to simply ban TB! rg>> traffic than to expend any effort toward better filters. This practice rg>> is seeming hard coded into some ISPs' thinking (&/or hardware software rg>> even maybe) to this day. IAW> I suppose on that basis, Outlook Express should be absolutely high on IAW> the list of such programs then. My thought exactly! :) -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Two guys walk into a bar. Why didn't the second one duck? Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ISP's Blocking TheBat
This is the reason that the option even exists under the options menu to choose to not include TB! as the X-Mailer. > Wasn't there an .EXE hack for TB! some versions ago, before that option > made it's way into TB!, that would allow you to do just that? > Richie Yes. I used it. Someone here was kind enough to create it for me. -- Elaine Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ISP's Blocking TheBat
L>> I haven't run into this, but I'm quite new to TB. L>> Why does this happen? IAW> If you have the X-Mailer option checked under IAW> Options|Preferences|General, then The Bat! is identified in the IAW> message headers. This is what they check to make their arbitrary IAW> decision. Unckeck this and all should be OK. Once upon a time some spammer(s) did choose to use TB! due to it's configuriblity. This lead to some ISPs decision to simply ban TB! traffic than to expend any effort toward better filters. This practice is seeming hard coded into some ISPs' thinking (&/or hardware software even maybe) to this day. This is the reason that the option even exists under the options menu to choose to not include TB! as the X-Mailer. IAW> Maybe RITLabs needs to allow the user to enter whatever text they want IAW> there! Wasn't there an .EXE hack for TB! some versions ago, before that option made it's way into TB!, that would allow you to do just that? Richie -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: The journey of a thousand miles begins with a broken fan belt and leaky tire. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ISP's Blocking TheBat
Ian A. White @ 2006-7-12 7:19:56 PM "ISP's Blocking TheBat" > This is what they check to make their arbitrary decision. Unckeck > this and all should be OK. When Ian say "they" he/she means anti-spam programs. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers. pgpFx1KuMK2DZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ISP's Blocking TheBat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 12 Jul 2006, @ @ at 18:23:55 -0400, when Laurie wrote: > H Yep. > I haven't run into this, but I'm quite new to TB. > Why does this happen? Due to spectacular malfunction in the process of deductive reasoning. An excellent material for anthropologists of 21st century. *** Besides, and apart from this, Laurie, since you are new to TB, if you don't like the smell of a (not very fresh) trout, then you shouldn't top-post when you reply to a message (only bottom-posting is acceptable after the rules of the list), and you should have so called cut-mark, at the end of your message. The "cut-mark" consists of two dashes and one empty (letter) space, at the beginning of the line, after which you hit the enter button: "-- ". *** (It would be also very good if someone would include eventually these two basic informations/rules in the famous "Mission Statement", together with needed explanations what they serve for and how to apply them, so the new people could have a chance to avoid trouting for nothing. I suppose that such things have higher priority than those about "The Roguemoticon Project" and on how thus to enter The Bat Cartoon Network. Actually, is there something like that in a message every member gets after just had been subscribed to the list? I vaguely remember that time...does such a message still exist in these modern times?) - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo & Vector ~ Wine ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my "From|Reply To" field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4-svn-4169 <>o<> tiger192 (MSYS/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBRLWRYrSpHvHEUtv8AQMt6wgAsKUZj6QmuYR4Za9bAfalg2MlPR9Gqdwm 5YCEX7qpPi/F4cbhttm+37lv4glZe74XvqgBsb0RPBO79/OrC7Go+ufrOZKbpCNt IKQa1QjdNsC6BDAdNQaTv+kUIIeAZeSSl/c/BUB/YZoAzuFuWbpfqijCopMmr98K bGWKxXYvMcsw3wUFPVzTVxR1XeDZn44JMtKYs6wAerEI7OyWixV8OnaGNYDGcL+Y 1+r4SU0A41y3ShmR3zJA233LaRJZMJf9as2/224mTGYMIl80aF6nDCTtYA9V/o4I s3L5DKIaU2r0DNHZsMIP/QlTnhaFAY1oPchOfu/Pf3/PrjZHjqzBeg== =/o0S -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ISP's Blocking TheBat
H I haven't run into this, but I'm quite new to TB. Why does this happen? Laurie Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 4:32:54 PM, you wrote: >> I've recently had a couple of emails blocked from two different ISP's >> who claim The Bat is a known spammer. Of course I know this is >> bull, and I forwarded the info at Ritlabs on the subject to their >> IT Dept's to no avail. Can I use a filter to change the x-mail header >> when I send an email to these two people who use these ISP's? Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ISP's Blocking TheBat
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 at 13:00:37 -0700, Comprestore wrote: > Can I use a filter to change the x-mail header when I send an email > to these two people who use these ISP's? X-Mailer cannot be edited or otherwise changed from within TB! If you want to modify it for selected recipients, you will either need an external application like X-Ray Mail Assistant (http://xrayapp.com), or use the "User-Agent" header for your mailer information (see the headers in this message). Otherwise just turn it off from Options->Preferences->General. Uncheck "Use X-Mailer header in messages (for administrative purposes)". -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.80.06 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ISP's Blocking TheBat
> Can I use a filter to change the x-mail header > when I send an email to these two people who use > these ISP's? > I know under Options / Preferences / General, you can uncheck "Use > X-Mailer Header in Messages" to remove it > altogether. Perhaps others > will know whether you can remove it on a per recipient basis. I am on a lot of mailing lists. I finally had to simply remove it altogether rather than chance further problems. There are several large servers that out and out refused to allow my mail through when it listed TB!. -- Elaine Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ISP's Blocking TheBat
On 7/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've recently had a couple of emails blocked from two different ISP's who claim The Bat is a known spammer. Of course I know this is bull, and I forwarded the info at Ritlabs on the subject to their IT Dept's to no avail. Can I use a filter to change the x-mail header when I send an email to these two people who use these ISP's? I know under Options / Preferences / General, you can uncheck "Use X-Mailer Header in Messages" to remove it altogether. Perhaps others will know whether you can remove it on a per recipient basis. -- Dave Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
ISP's Blocking TheBat
I've recently had a couple of emails blocked from two different ISP's who claim The Bat is a known spammer. Of course I know this is bull, and I forwarded the info at Ritlabs on the subject to their IT Dept's to no avail. Can I use a filter to change the x-mail header when I send an email to these two people who use these ISP's? I know this won't stop future problems at unknown servers, but I email these two people frequently and it is a real pain to login to Yahoo Webmail to send my regular correspondence to them. Thanks to all - I've been a member and avid reader of this list for years but have never posted because I just rarely have a problem with this great application...Mike Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Groups & Templates
Hello MFPA & everyone else, on 12-Jul-2006 at 14:10 you (MFPA) wrote: >> address book templates (be it individual or group based) are always >> used. > What happens if an individual has their own AB template but is in an > AB group with a group template? The individual template has top priority, then the others follow. See http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php?page=templates :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. -- Helen Keller Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Groups & Templates
Hi On Tuesday 4 July 2006 at 11:52:50 AM, in , Roelof Otten wrote: > address book templates (be it individual or group based) are > always used. What happens if an individual has their own AB template but is in an AB group with a group template? -- Best regards, MFPA The truth is out there. Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do you create a signature file?
Hello ...in addition to my previous message... on 12-Jul-2006 at 13:00 you (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote: > Which would require an HTML signature/template function in TB, and this > does not exist at the moment. Whoops, that was already covered later deeper down in the thread. Got to train that email skills again. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Reality is for people who lack imagination. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do you create a signature file?
Hello Tim Hamm & everyone else, on 05-Jul-2006 at 05:55 you (Tim Hamm) wrote: > I have a picture to add Which would require an HTML signature/template function in TB, and this does not exist at the moment. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then. (Bob Seger) Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do you create a signature file?
Hello Marck D Pearlstone & everyone else, on 05-Jul-2006 at 18:14 you (Marck D Pearlstone) wrote: > Then again, there's always that good ole catchy and easy to find and > remember c:\Documents and Settings\(user)\Local settings\temp as made > popular (and ever less visible) by XP and 2000. Commandline is your friend. Simply type "CD %TMP%" and there you are (I know that you probably know this Marck, but I found it worth mentioning). Most of the pre-defined environment variables in Windows 2000/XP are very handy. I'd place the signature file in "%USERPROFILE%" (or maybe in "%APPDATA%\The Bat!") - that way, the configuration is just as flexible and not limited to a fixed path as if using a QT. To see which environment variables exist, open a command window and just type "SET" without any arguments. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
