Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
Hello Bat-Folk! On the RitLabs site downloads page there are 3 anti spam downloads available. Bayes Filter Plugin by Achim Winkler BayesIt! by Alexey Vinogradov Agava Antispamservant Plugin Anyone care to comment on these? Thx RG -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: One should always be in love. That is the reason one should never marry. - Oscar Wilde Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
mailserver
Hi, TB is installead as server, long ago as I installed it. Now I've a domain running on my local pc with a fixed IP. Apache (under XP) is running well as http server, a ftp server is running too. But what do I have to do to get TB running as mailserver? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 3.81.14 Beta under XP Pro, SP2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Find all templates in v2.12
Rich, You might try creating a new message in each folder, but closing the message editor without sending it. This should give you an error if the folder's new message template has a drive reference in it, just as your post here did. They do the same for replies. I've used this trick to verify that my templates were creating the exact look I want. -- Jim Kyle Using The Bat! v3.80.03 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Thomas Fernandez @ 2006-8-07 10:00:07 PM "Filter: Add Block?" >> The way I have things setup, that would render most of my common >> filters useless. I have a number of common filters that set user >> parameters that account filters then use to do various things, like >> sort to secondary inboxes. > How did you do that? My account filters are just not triggered. Or do > you have "continue with other filters" checked in the account filters? My common filters have "Continue processing other filters" checked. Here is an example. The filter moves all outgoing message to the Inbox of the given account, unless it is addressed to one of my addresses. The common outgoing filter: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [713E117E.01C677B8.35AC2CF0.3F0CE2B2] Name: To\20me Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] UserParam param DO_NOT_MOVE value 1 IsContinue IsActive Ignore endFilter An account outgoing filter: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [67B0F272.01C677A7.35CF4BC4.7241CCD6] Name: Generic\20Move\20to\20Inbox Filter: {\0D\0A\20`27`DO_NOT_MOVE`1`1\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder [EMAIL PROTECTED] IsActive Ignore endFilter >> This renders account filters obsolete, unless one uses only those. > Except for the implicit Account condition, yes. What I mean is that account filters are only tested against messages that are within that account. I.e., every account level filter could (probably) be written as a common filter with the addition condition that the current account = (a specific account). Clearer? -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. "You're never too old to become younger." -Mae West pgpitdlllLS8K.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Hello George, On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 11:24:34 -0700 GMT (08/08/2006, 01:24 +0700 GMT), George Mitchell wrote: GM> It's good you're leaning away from a solution that involves common GM> subfilters, since it probably wouldn't work: GM> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021 Good that you mention it, I thought the problems with common sub-filters had all been ironed out. -- Cheers, Thomas. Top 10 Reasons To Go To Work Naked: 3. Diverts attention from the fact that you also came to work drunk. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Hello Chris, On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:48:45 -0400 GMT (08/08/2006, 06:48 +0700 GMT), Chris W. wrote: >> I would have thought that when the common filters are finsihed, a >> "new" session with the account filters is started. It's a matter of >> design, and obviously the developers decided otherwise. CW> The way I have things setup, that would render most of my common CW> filters useless. I have a number of common filters that set user CW> parameters that account filters then use to do various things, like CW> sort to secondary inboxes. How did you do that? My account filters are just not triggered. Or do you have "continue with other filters" checked in the account filters? >> This renders account filters obsolete, unless one uses only those. CW> Except for the implicit Account condition, yes. Please explain this. You may have the solution I am looking for. -- Cheers, Thomas. "Did you delete and icon labelled 'The Internet' from your computer? You did? Well, it will take years to restore the entire Internet; in the meantime, the F.B.I. would like to have a word with you." http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Find all templates in v2.12
Hello Bat-Folk! Having just moved ALL TB! folders and files from the C: to the M: drive I am now in the process of editing the macros and templates to reflect the new files locations. Hopefully, someone here can help make easier for me... Is there a way to FIND all the templates that need editing? That I had to edit the account template was a no-brainer, hence I pulled it off, but, in the rest of the folders some have templates, many do not. Is there a way to look at some file or the folder tree and see which folders have template in 'em? Thx all, Rich OH! Look... There's one now (see below!) -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: Cannot open file "c:\progra~1\thebat~1\sigs.txt" Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Thomas Fernandez @ 2006-8-07 8:05:46 AM "Filter: Add Block?" > I would have thought that when the common filters are finsihed, a > "new" session with the account filters is started. It's a matter of > design, and obviously the developers decided otherwise. The way I have things setup, that would render most of my common filters useless. I have a number of common filters that set user parameters that account filters then use to do various things, like sort to secondary inboxes. > This renders account filters obsolete, unless one uses only those. Except for the implicit Account condition, yes. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. "Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." -Douglas Adams pgpozahHG96Zq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF> The only way I can think of is adding a subfilter to all (over TF> 100) common filters. That isn't practical. It's good you're leaning away from a solution that involves common subfilters, since it probably wouldn't work: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021 -- George Using The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Dear Ariane, @7-Aug-2006, 16:07 +0200 (07-Aug 15:07 here) Ariane Furer [AF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Thomas: AF> I receive so many e-mail, stop your answer. You have been moderated for top-posting. I feel I should at least explain to you where you are - you seem to be experiencing culture-shock. This is a public mailing list. All messages sent into the mailing list are sent on to all members of the list. The only way for you to stop the flow beyond the answer you may have wanted is to resign from the list according to the instructions you received when you joined. It seems you didn't know what you were getting into when you signed up. It's nothing personal, honestly! -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgp8F1QDAwIsm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: Filter: Add Block?)
Hallo Ariane, On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 16:07:48 +0200GMT (7-8-2006, 16:07 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AF> Please AF> I receive so many e-mail, stop your answer. AF> Best regards AF> Ariane >> Hello Roelof, Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Ariane. )<)))'> This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. -- Groetjes, Roelof Damn it, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a conference moderator! pgptEk1TYjL8Q.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Hello Stuart, On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 10:45:32 -0500 GMT (07/08/2006, 22:45 +0700 GMT), Stuart Cuddy wrote: >> I can copy using "mark copy as read". That is not what I want. I want >> "mark original as read". Seems to be difficult. SC> I have not been following too close so pardon me if I am getting this SC> all wrong, but, can you first mark message as read, before move, I can. SC> then move and mark copy as unread. I'll check it out. -- Cheers, Thomas. Xerox: "The Original Copycats" http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter: Add Block?
Hello Thomas, Monday, August 7, 2006, 7:53:29 AM, you wrote: > Roelof Otten wrote: TF>>> One more thing I want to achieve: Mark the original message as read TF>>> (but not the copy). I haven't an idea yet how to achieve that. RO>> I haven't tested that, but what about first copying it and mark it as RO>> read afterwards (if need be with a subfilter) > The only way I can think of is adding a subfilter to all (over 100) > common filters. That isn't practical. > I can copy using "mark copy as read". That is not what I want. I want > "mark original as read". Seems to be difficult. I have not been following too close so pardon me if I am getting this all wrong, but, can you first mark message as read, before move, then move and mark copy as unread. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.14 Beta on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Hello Feli, On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 16:43:08 +0200 GMT (07/08/2006, 21:43 +0700 GMT), Feli Wilcke wrote: TF>> How do you "copy to account origin"? The common filters do not TF>> discriminate, the are shared between accounts A, B, and C. FW> subfilter for each account? (I did not test it) The account filters are not trigeered. If I "mark message as read" in the account-related common filter, wouldn't the copy in the archive folder be marked as read as well? -- Cheers, Thomas. Wer am Ende ist, kann von vorne anfangen. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Hello Thomas, On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:02:11 +0700GMT Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF> How do you "copy to account origin"? The common filters do not TF> discriminate, the are shared between accounts A, B, and C. subfilter for each account? (I did not test it) -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter: Add Block?
Please I receive so many e-mail, stop your answer. Best regards Ariane > Hello Roelof, > On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 15:46:14 +0200 GMT (07/08/2006, 20:46 +0700 GMT), > Roelof Otten wrote: TF>>> If I move (instead of copy) to folders in account X, how do I copy TF>>> back to account A/B/C? RO>> With a second action in the same filter. RO>> 1st action: move to whatever RO>> 2nd action: copy to account of origin > How do you "copy to account origin"? The common filters do not > discriminate, the are shared between accounts A, B, and C. -- Cordialement, ArianeCourriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Hello Roelof, On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 15:46:14 +0200 GMT (07/08/2006, 20:46 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF>> If I move (instead of copy) to folders in account X, how do I copy TF>> back to account A/B/C? RO> With a second action in the same filter. RO> 1st action: move to whatever RO> 2nd action: copy to account of origin How do you "copy to account origin"? The common filters do not discriminate, the are shared between accounts A, B, and C. -- Cheers, Thomas. A computer beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick-boxing. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Hallo Thomas, On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 20:13:49 +0700GMT (7-8-2006, 15:13 , where I live), you wrote: TF> If I move (instead of copy) to folders in account X, how do I copy TF> back to account A/B/C? With a second action in the same filter. 1st action: move to whatever 2nd action: copy to account of origin -- Groetjes, Roelof It is meaningless to speak of domesticating a child. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpi7gXTsN2k9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Hello Feli, On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 15:00:36 +0200 GMT (07/08/2006, 20:00 +0700 GMT), Feli Wilcke wrote: TF>> I can copy using "mark copy as read". That is not what I want. I want TF>> "mark original as read". Seems to be difficult. FW> why not move the copy to the place of the original and the original to FW> the place of the copy and then use "mark copy as read"? Do you have to FW> modify all filters then? I don't follow. Message arrives at account A or B or C. I copy to over 100 folders of account X by way of common filters shared with A, B, C. X is the archive account, filters copy directly into the folders for countries or customers. If I move (instead of copy) to folders in account X, how do I copy back to account A/B/C? -- Cheers, Thomas. FLATULANCE: Emergency vehicle that picks you up when you've been run over by a steam roller http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Hello Thomas, On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:53:29 +0700GMT Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF> I can copy using "mark copy as read". That is not what I want. I want TF> "mark original as read". Seems to be difficult. why not move the copy to the place of the original and the original to the place of the copy and then use "mark copy as read"? Do you have to modify all filters then? -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Hello Roelof, On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 14:26:50 +0200 GMT (07/08/2006, 19:26 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF>> One more thing I want to achieve: Mark the original message as read TF>> (but not the copy). I haven't an idea yet how to achieve that. RO> I haven't tested that, but what about first copying it and mark it as RO> read afterwards (if need be with a subfilter) The only way I can think of is adding a subfilter to all (over 100) common filters. That isn't practical. I can copy using "mark copy as read". That is not what I want. I want "mark original as read". Seems to be difficult. -- Cheers, Thomas. The most precious thing we have is life. Yet it has absolutely no trade-in value. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Hallo Thomas, On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:05:46 +0700GMT (7-8-2006, 14:05 , where I live), you wrote: TF> One more thing I want to achieve: Mark the original message as read TF> (but not the copy). I haven't an idea yet how to achieve that. I haven't tested that, but what about first copying it and mark it as read afterwards (if need be with a subfilter) -- Groetjes, Roelof It is meaningless to speak of domesticating a child. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpEcBiDGKyKT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Hello Roelof, On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 10:50:16 +0200 GMT (07/08/2006, 15:50 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF>> 3.) Run the common filters first, and only if "continue" is checked, TF>> also run the account filters. (This seems to be the case.) RO> This is what happens. A message is compared with the common filters RO> and then with the account filters, but the comparing stops with the RO> first match. I would have thought that when the common filters are finsihed, a "new" session with the account filters is started. It's a matter of design, and obviously the developers decided otherwise. This renders account filters obsolete, unless one uses only those. RO> (Note that my knowledge of common filters is only theoretically, as RO> I've never used one, me being a one account guy.) What you can do with account filters, you can also do with common filters. Just click only that account in "Share with..." TF>> Off to some testing! Will report back. RO> Good hunting. Succesfull: I have recreated the account filters as common filters, shared with only the appropriate account, moved these filters to the top and actived "continue". Now the mails get moved to the correct folder in the account and colour-coded before being copied to the archive. One more thing I want to achieve: Mark the original message as read (but not the copy). I haven't an idea yet how to achieve that. -- Cheers, Thomas. At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be "What is Hell?" Come early and listen to the choir practice. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter: Add Block?
Hallo Thomas, On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 22:43:19 +0700GMT (6-8-2006, 17:43 , where I live), you wrote: TF> 3.) Run the common filters first, and only if "continue" is checked, TF> also run the account filters. (This seems to be the case.) This is what happens. A message is compared with the common filters and then with the account filters, but the comparing stops with the first match. (Note that my knowledge of common filters is only theoretically, as I've never used one, me being a one account guy.) TF> Off to some testing! Will report back. Good hunting. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows 95 not found! (D)ance (C)heer (P)arty? http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpjQFKw01v5e.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html