Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)

2006-08-07 Thread rich gregory
Hello Bat-Folk!

On the RitLabs site downloads page there are 3 anti spam downloads
available.

Bayes Filter Plugin by Achim Winkler
BayesIt! by Alexey Vinogradov
Agava Antispamservant Plugin

Anyone care to comment on these?

Thx
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mailserver

2006-08-07 Thread Goos
Hi,

TB is installead as server, long ago as I installed it.
Now I've a domain running on my local pc with a fixed IP.
Apache (under XP) is running well as http server, a
ftp server is running too.
But what do I have to do to get TB running as mailserver?

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Re: Find all templates in v2.12

2006-08-07 Thread Jim Kyle
Rich,

You might try creating a new message in each folder, but closing the
message editor without sending it. This should give you an error if
the folder's new message template has a drive reference in it, just as
your post here did. They do the same for replies.

I've used this trick to verify that my templates were creating the
exact look I want.

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Chris W .

Thomas Fernandez @ 2006-8-07 10:00:07 PM
"Filter: Add Block?" 

>> The way I have things setup, that would render most of my common
>> filters useless. I have a number of common filters that set user
>> parameters that account filters then use to do various things, like
>> sort to secondary inboxes.
> How did you do that? My account filters are just not triggered. Or do
> you have "continue with other filters" checked in the account filters?

My common filters have "Continue processing other filters" checked.
Here is an example. The filter moves all outgoing message to the Inbox
of the given account, unless it is addressed to one of my addresses.

The common outgoing filter:

 TB! Message Filter 
beginFilter
UID: [713E117E.01C677B8.35AC2CF0.3F0CE2B2]
Name: To\20me
Filter:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
UserParam param DO_NOT_MOVE value 1
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter

An account outgoing filter:
 TB! Message Filter 
beginFilter
UID: [67B0F272.01C677A7.35CF4BC4.7241CCD6]
Name: Generic\20Move\20to\20Inbox
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`27`DO_NOT_MOVE`1`1\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter

>> This renders account filters obsolete, unless one uses only those.
> Except for the implicit Account condition, yes.

What I mean is that account filters are only tested against messages
that are within that account. I.e., every account level filter could
(probably) be written as a common filter with the addition condition
that the current account = (a specific account).

Clearer?

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello George,

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 11:24:34 -0700 GMT (08/08/2006, 01:24 +0700 GMT),
George Mitchell wrote:

GM> It's good you're leaning away from a solution that involves common
GM> subfilters, since it probably wouldn't work:

GM> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021

Good that you mention it, I thought the problems with common
sub-filters had all been ironed out.

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Chris,

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:48:45 -0400 GMT (08/08/2006, 06:48 +0700 GMT),
Chris W. wrote:

>> I would have thought that when the common filters are finsihed, a
>> "new" session with the account filters is started. It's a matter of
>> design, and obviously the developers decided otherwise.

CW> The way I have things setup, that would render most of my common
CW> filters useless. I have a number of common filters that set user
CW> parameters that account filters then use to do various things, like
CW> sort to secondary inboxes.

How did you do that? My account filters are just not triggered. Or do
you have "continue with other filters" checked in the account filters?

>> This renders account filters obsolete, unless one uses only those.

CW> Except for the implicit Account condition, yes.

Please explain this. You may have the solution I am looking for.

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Find all templates in v2.12

2006-08-07 Thread rich gregory
Hello Bat-Folk!

Having just moved ALL TB! folders and files from the C: to the M: drive
I am now in the process of editing the macros and templates to reflect
the new files locations.

Hopefully, someone here can help make easier for me... Is there a way to
FIND all the templates that need editing?

That I had to edit the account template was a no-brainer, hence I pulled
it off, but, in the rest of the folders some have templates, many do not.

Is there a way to look at some file or the folder tree and see which
folders have template in 'em?

Thx all,
Rich

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Chris W .

Thomas Fernandez @ 2006-8-07 8:05:46 AM
"Filter: Add Block?" 

> I would have thought that when the common filters are finsihed, a
> "new" session with the account filters is started. It's a matter of
> design, and obviously the developers decided otherwise.

The way I have things setup, that would render most of my common
filters useless. I have a number of common filters that set user
parameters that account filters then use to do various things, like
sort to secondary inboxes.

> This renders account filters obsolete, unless one uses only those.

Except for the implicit Account condition, yes.

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread George Mitchell
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF> The only way I can think of is adding a subfilter to all (over
TF> 100) common filters. That isn't practical.

It's good you're leaning away from a solution that involves common
subfilters, since it probably wouldn't work:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Ariane,

@7-Aug-2006, 16:07 +0200 (07-Aug 15:07 here) Ariane Furer [AF] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Thomas:

AF> I receive so many e-mail, stop your answer.

You have been moderated for top-posting. I feel I should at least
explain to you where you are - you seem to be experiencing
culture-shock.

This is a public mailing list. All messages sent into the mailing
list are sent on to all members of the list.

The only way for you to stop the flow beyond the answer you may have
wanted is to resign from the list according to the instructions you
received when you joined.

It seems you didn't know what you were getting into when you signed
up. It's nothing personal, honestly!

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Mod: Top posting (was: Filter: Add Block?)

2006-08-07 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Ariane,

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 16:07:48 +0200GMT (7-8-2006, 16:07 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

AF> Please 

AF> I receive so many e-mail, stop your answer.

AF> Best regards

AF> Ariane

>> Hello Roelof,


Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
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  )<)))'>

This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting.

Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your
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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stuart,

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 10:45:32 -0500 GMT (07/08/2006, 22:45 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

>> I can copy using "mark copy as read". That is not what I want. I want
>> "mark original as read". Seems to be difficult.

SC> I  have  not been following too close so pardon me if I am getting this
SC> all  wrong, but, can you first mark message as read, before move,

I can.

SC> then move and mark copy as unread.

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Re[2]: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Thomas,
Monday, August 7, 2006, 7:53:29 AM, you wrote:

> Roelof Otten wrote:

TF>>> One more thing I want to achieve: Mark the original message as read
TF>>> (but not the copy). I haven't an idea yet how to achieve that.

RO>> I haven't tested that, but what about first copying it and mark it as
RO>> read afterwards (if need be with a subfilter)

> The only way I can think of is adding a subfilter to all (over 100)
> common filters. That isn't practical.

> I can copy using "mark copy as read". That is not what I want. I want
> "mark original as read". Seems to be difficult.

I  have  not been following too close so pardon me if I am getting this
all  wrong, but, can you first mark message as read, before move, then
move and mark copy as unread.

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Feli,

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 16:43:08 +0200 GMT (07/08/2006, 21:43 +0700 GMT),
Feli Wilcke wrote:

TF>> How do you "copy to account origin"? The common filters do not
TF>> discriminate, the are shared between accounts A, B, and C.

FW> subfilter for each account? (I did not test it)

The account filters are not trigeered.

If I "mark message as read" in the account-related common filter,
wouldn't the copy in the archive folder be marked as read as well?

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Feli Wilcke
Hello Thomas,

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:02:11 +0700GMT Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF> How do you "copy to account origin"? The common filters do not
TF> discriminate, the are shared between accounts A, B, and C.

subfilter for each account? (I did not test it)

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Re[2]: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Ariane Furer
Please 

I receive so many e-mail, stop your answer.

Best regards

Ariane

> Hello Roelof,

> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 15:46:14 +0200 GMT (07/08/2006, 20:46 +0700 GMT),
> Roelof Otten wrote:

TF>>> If I move (instead of copy) to folders in account X, how do I copy
TF>>> back to account A/B/C?

RO>> With a second action in the same filter.
RO>> 1st action: move to whatever
RO>> 2nd action: copy to account of origin

> How do you "copy to account origin"? The common filters do not
> discriminate, the are shared between accounts A, B, and C.




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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Roelof,

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 15:46:14 +0200 GMT (07/08/2006, 20:46 +0700 GMT),
Roelof Otten wrote:

TF>> If I move (instead of copy) to folders in account X, how do I copy
TF>> back to account A/B/C?

RO> With a second action in the same filter.
RO> 1st action: move to whatever
RO> 2nd action: copy to account of origin

How do you "copy to account origin"? The common filters do not
discriminate, the are shared between accounts A, B, and C.

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Thomas,

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 20:13:49 +0700GMT (7-8-2006, 15:13 , where I live),
you wrote:

TF> If I move (instead of copy) to folders in account X, how do I copy
TF> back to account A/B/C?

With a second action in the same filter.
1st action: move to whatever
2nd action: copy to account of origin

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Feli,

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 15:00:36 +0200 GMT (07/08/2006, 20:00 +0700 GMT),
Feli Wilcke wrote:

TF>> I can copy using "mark copy as read". That is not what I want. I want
TF>> "mark original as read". Seems to be difficult.

FW> why not move the copy to the place of the original and the original to
FW> the place of the copy and then use "mark copy as read"? Do you have to
FW> modify all filters then?

I don't follow.

Message arrives at account A or B or C. I copy to over 100 folders of
account X by way of common filters shared with A, B, C. X is the
archive account, filters copy directly into the folders for countries
or customers.

If I move (instead of copy) to folders in account X, how do I copy
back to account A/B/C?

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Feli Wilcke
Hello Thomas,

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:53:29 +0700GMT Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF> I can copy using "mark copy as read". That is not what I want. I want
TF> "mark original as read". Seems to be difficult.

why not move the copy to the place of the original and the original to
the place of the copy and then use "mark copy as read"? Do you have to
modify all filters then?

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Roelof,

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 14:26:50 +0200 GMT (07/08/2006, 19:26 +0700 GMT),
Roelof Otten wrote:

TF>> One more thing I want to achieve: Mark the original message as read
TF>> (but not the copy). I haven't an idea yet how to achieve that.

RO> I haven't tested that, but what about first copying it and mark it as
RO> read afterwards (if need be with a subfilter)

The only way I can think of is adding a subfilter to all (over 100)
common filters. That isn't practical.

I can copy using "mark copy as read". That is not what I want. I want
"mark original as read". Seems to be difficult.

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Thomas,

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:05:46 +0700GMT (7-8-2006, 14:05 , where I live),
you wrote:

TF> One more thing I want to achieve: Mark the original message as read
TF> (but not the copy). I haven't an idea yet how to achieve that.

I haven't tested that, but what about first copying it and mark it as
read afterwards (if need be with a subfilter)

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Roelof,

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 10:50:16 +0200 GMT (07/08/2006, 15:50 +0700 GMT),
Roelof Otten wrote:

TF>> 3.) Run the common filters first, and only if "continue" is checked,
TF>> also run the account filters. (This seems to be the case.)

RO> This is what happens. A message is compared with the common filters
RO> and then with the account filters, but the comparing stops with the
RO> first match.

I would have thought that when the common filters are finsihed, a
"new" session with the account filters is started. It's a matter of
design, and obviously the developers decided otherwise.

This renders account filters obsolete, unless one uses only those.

RO> (Note that my knowledge of common filters is only theoretically, as
RO> I've never used one, me being a one account guy.)

What you can do with account filters, you can also do with common
filters. Just click only that account in "Share with..."

TF>> Off to some testing! Will report back.

RO> Good hunting.

Succesfull: I have recreated the account filters as common filters,
shared with only the appropriate account, moved these filters to the
top and actived "continue". Now the mails get moved to the correct
folder in the account and colour-coded before being copied to the
archive.

One more thing I want to achieve: Mark the original message as read
(but not the copy). I haven't an idea yet how to achieve that.

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-07 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Thomas,

On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 22:43:19 +0700GMT (6-8-2006, 17:43 , where I live),
you wrote:

TF> 3.) Run the common filters first, and only if "continue" is checked,
TF> also run the account filters. (This seems to be the case.)

This is what happens. A message is compared with the common filters
and then with the account filters, but the comparing stops with the
first match.
(Note that my knowledge of common filters is only theoretically, as
I've never used one, me being a one account guy.)

TF> Off to some testing! Will report back.

Good hunting.

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