Re: Why TB Takes So Long To Queue Messages
Hello Rick, Thursday, May 27, 2010, 8:30:26 AM, you wrote: >> That said, I always put messages in the Outbox and do not use >> immediate sending, so I don't care whether it takes 15 seconds. ;-) > I am wondering if this isn't the normal behavior. I send some things > out via Outlook Express. I watch the sent box and nothing appears > immediately, it all takes a few second. The difference is there is no > clock to watch. > I would guess that even with email programs where the email seems to > go immediately (The Bat does this too), it is still taking a few > seconds to get "out the door" This is bewildering and can't find a solution... as stated before, Outlook and PocoMail send immediately but TB takes exactly 15 seconds before processing the outgoing mail. I have tried this with only one email address and no attachments and it still takes that long. I am convinced it definitely has to do something with TB on my computer but what that is is very annoying to say the least. -- Best regards, Timmailto:timh...@cox.net Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rearranging folders
On 5/27/2010 11:18 AM, Jack wrote: If I move them via a file manager, it doesn't work. What do you mean about moving them by file manager. Are you changing the folder in which they are stored, or do you mean that you are changing the order in which they are displayed by the file manager? -- Dwight Corrin dcorrin at fastmail.fm http://dcorrin.smugmug.com http://dcorrin.aminus3.com Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rearranging folders
Hello Jack, On Thu, 27 May 2010 12:19:33 -0400 GMT (27/May/10, 23:19 PM +0700 GMT), Jack wrote: TF>> Do you want to move all folders of one account to another location? If TF>> so try this: J> I want to move them from one section of one account to another section J> in the same account so, unfortunately, this method won't work in this J> case. The only thing TB! can do automatically is sort the folders within an account alphabetically. Anything else would require Artifical Intelligence to a degree NASA would be insterested in, I'd say. So, manual is the way to go. For now. Good luck. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.33.9 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rearranging folders
Hello, >> I thought I could close TB, rearrange >> them via my file manager and restart but that doesn't >> work, even after Ctrl+Alt+Shift+L. M> Here, Ctrl+Alt+Shift+L works if I select a folder in the account I've M> moved folders to, and leave the focus on the folder list. Folders are M> "found" in that account only. If I move them via a file manager, it doesn't work. If I move them via TB, I don't need it since they are moved correctly. M> I think it ends up being just as tedious; TB! recreates empty M> folders if you didn't move or delete from within TB!, so you then have M> to delete those. Moving them outside of TB! also prevents filters etc M> being updated with the new locations. Yes. It seems this isn't possible. One would think that in a program that deals with nothing but folders, there would be a more sophisticated way of handling them. Thanks to all for the suggestions. I do appreciate it. -- Jack Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rearranging folders
Hello, J>> Thanks for the suggestion but only one folder can be selected and with J>> a larger number of folders, moving it like that is very cumbersome. TF> Do you want to move all folders of one account to another location? If TF> so try this: I want to move them from one section of one account to another section in the same account so, unfortunately, this method won't work in this case. -- Jack Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why TB Takes So Long To Queue Messages
> That said, I always put messages in the Outbox and do not use > immediate sending, so I don't care whether it takes 15 seconds. ;-) I am wondering if this isn't the normal behavior. I send some things out via Outlook Express. I watch the sent box and nothing appears immediately, it all takes a few second. The difference is there is no clock to watch. I would guess that even with email programs where the email seems to go immediately (The Bat does this too), it is still taking a few seconds to get "out the door" -- Rick It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them. - P. G. Wodehouse v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why TB Takes So Long To Queue Messages
Hello Tim, On Wed, 26 May 2010 18:21:35 -0700 GMT (27/May/10, 8:21 AM +0700 GMT), Tim Hamm wrote: TH> When sending mail with smtp, why does mail take so long to queue TH> before sending... It takes long over here only if there are many recipients. Apparently, each domain is checked whether it exist, and only if all domains exist, the mail is sent. I don't know whether this is some setting on my SMTP server, or whether it's TB!, and whether this is expected behaviour. Your DNS server may be slow to check all these domains, too. That said, I always put messages in the Outbox and do not use immediate sending, so I don't care whether it takes 15 seconds. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.33.9 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why TB Takes So Long To Queue Messages
Test for On--- On Wednesday, May 26, 2010, at 8:21:35 PM, Tim Hamm wrote: > When sending mail with smtp, why does mail take so long to queue before > sending. I see similar behavior, but only when I have a fairly large file attached to the message. Attachments have to be encoded before the message can be sent to the server, and that long delay is the time it takes to do the encoding. -- Jim Kyle Using The Bat! v4.0.34 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VMWare Server 2 under Xubuntu 8.04.3 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.0.1.2 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why TB Takes So Long To Queue Messages
Hallo Tim,
On Wed, 26 May 2010 18:21:35 -0700GMT (27-5-2010, 3:21 , where I
live), you wrote:
TH> When sending mail with smtp, why does mail take so long to queue
TH> before sending... Average length of time is over fifteen seconds for
TH> a single email.
I can't confirm that behaviour. Over here my messages disappear almost
instantaneously. The best way to find the problem would be to check
the logs. Either TB's log or your server's log. I don't know whether
you've got access to the latter (most people don't), but you can
enable protocol logging for an account, send a message and check the
log.
You can enable protocol logging via the menu:
Account -> Properties -> expand the 'Transport' tree -> Protocol logging
-> enable logging for the sending protocol
I've done that myself and for a single test message I'm getting this:
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| [10:21:31] C: Connected to mail.otten.tv, port ***
| [10:21:31] S: 220 otten.tv Ready for action (Mailtraq 2.16.0.2848/ESMTP)
| [10:21:32] C: EHLO [192.168.1.12]
| [10:21:32] S: 250-otten.tv
| [10:21:32] S: 250-XFROMIP
| [10:21:32] S: 250-SIZE
| [10:21:32] S: 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5
| [10:21:32] S: 250 AUTH=LOGIN
| [10:21:32] C: AUTH CRAM-MD5
| [10:21:32] S: 334 ***
| [10:21:32] C:
| [10:21:32] S: 235 OK authenticated
| [10:21:32] C: MAIL FROM:<*> SIZE=465
| [10:21:32] S: 250 receiving from *
| [10:21:32] C: RCPT TO:<*>
| [10:21:32] S: 250 will send to *
| [10:21:32] C: DATA
| [10:21:32] S: 354 send the message, terminate with "."
| [10:21:32] C: Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 10:21:31 +0200
| [10:21:32] C: From: Roelof Otten <*>
| [10:21:32] C: Organization: E-mailaholics International
| [10:21:32] C: X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
| [10:21:32] C: Message-ID: <999769558.20100527102...@otten.tv>
| [10:21:32] C: To: Roelof Otten <*>
| [10:21:32] C: Subject: tijd meten
| [10:21:32] C: MIME-Version: 1.0
| [10:21:32] C: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15
| [10:21:32] C: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
| [10:21:32] C:
| [10:21:32] C: Hallo Roelof,=20
| [10:21:32] C:
| [10:21:32] C: Even de tijd meten.
| [10:21:32] C:
| [10:21:32] C: --=20
| [10:21:32] C: Groetjes, Roelof
| [10:21:32] C: http://www.voormijalleen.nl/
| [10:21:32] C:
| [10:21:32] C: .
| [10:21:32] C: {470 bytes sent}
| [10:21:32] S: 250 received the message, thanks
| [10:21:32] C: RSET
| [10:21:32] S: 250 clearing sender and recipient list, go ahead
| [10:21:32] C: QUIT
| [10:21:32] S: 221 have a nice day (SMTP Closing)
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I made some things unreadable with asterisks.
As you see, the full message is included in the log, that's why you
shouldn't keep this setting enabled for a long time, the protocol logs
aren't trimmed automatically, so they might grow a lot.
Best way is to enable it, send a message, disable the logging again.
If you don't see anything odd in the log, you could post it here, but
keep in mind that everything that's transmitted between server and
client will be included, so you'd better garble passwords and
addresses before posting it on a public log.
I hope this helps.
--
Groetjes, Roelof
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