Re: Filtering across accounts

2010-07-25 Thread TheLimit

On 7/25/2010 you wrote:

> Send us your filter for disection.

Here is the redirect filter -

> That's a completed different think. The Move filter will move the
> message in the DB on your computer, Redirect will send it by SMTP to
> the other email address, which by coincidence is also read by your

The thing is, it IS different, so I would expect to see
some difference in the result. But no, no difference at
all. The messages just sit there ...

This is probably going to be something monumentally
stupid, but I have a lot of filters that DO work, and I'm
not sure I don't have one right now that is working across
accounts! 

tia!

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Re: Filtering across accounts

2010-07-25 Thread TheLimit

On 7/25/2010 you wrote:

> Hello Lynn,

> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:25:33 -0700 GMT (26/Jul/10, 3:25 AM +0700 GMT),
> TheLimit wrote:

T>> I thought the easy way to deal with this would just be to
T>> filter these emails from the 'wrong' account to a
T>> folder in the 'right' account, since the filter options
T>> imply strongly that you can do just this.

> Yes, this works over here. If the fitler is triggered it performs a
> Move To action.

Yes, I've had other filters that worked fine across
accounts.  But this one doesn't.

T>> However, this isn't happening, and I can't figure out why.

> Send us your filter for disection.

Yessir! 

> My guess is that either the filtering condition isn't what you think
> it is, or there is another filter catching that mail and not
> continuing with other filters.

Mmm. I was thinking on those lines too, but can't find it.

T>> Since a couple of hours of tinkering had no useful result, and one
T>> of the options in the filters is to 'redirect the message', I
T>> thought that would probably work.

> That's a completed different think. The Move filter will move the
> message in the DB on your computer, Redirect will send it by SMTP to
> the other email address, which by coincidence is also read by your
> TB!.

This is all true :-) However, it would get it from the
gmail inbox to the perseus inbox, where the local filter
which *does* work in that account could shuffle it off to
it's correct folder.

Theoretically.

T>> I should say that I have both POP and IMAP accounts in this mess,
T>> and at the moment I am trying to filter from a POP account (gmail)
T>> to an IMAP (local, my freebsd server running postfix) account.

> OK, I can talk only about POP. Don't know whether Move would work
> to/from an IMAP account.

Well, it's true that there are some definite weirdnesses
about IMAP accounts, which I don't much like, in truth.
But for assorted reasons I went that route here, and I'm
kind of doggedly determined to make it work, you know?

T>> Eternal gratitude in advance -

> Are you sre about the 'eternal' part? ;-)

Sure I'm sure. Aren't you sure? If we can't be sure about
eternity, what can we be sure about? ;-)

What we CAN'T be sure about is the spell checkers!

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Re: Filtering across accounts

2010-07-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Lynn,

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:25:33 -0700 GMT (26/Jul/10, 3:25 AM +0700 GMT),
TheLimit wrote:

T> I thought the easy way to deal with this would just be to
T> filter these emails from the 'wrong' account to a
T> folder in the 'right' account, since the filter options
T> imply strongly that you can do just this.

Yes, this works over here. If the fitler is triggered it performs a
Move To action.

T> However, this isn't happening, and I can't figure out why.

Send us your filter for disection.

My guess is that either the filtering condition isn't what you think
it is, or there is another filter catching that mail and not
continuing with other filters.

T> Since a couple of hours of tinkering had no useful result, and one
T> of the options in the filters is to 'redirect the message', I
T> thought that would probably work.

That's a completed different think. The Move filter will move the
message in the DB on your computer, Redirect will send it by SMTP to
the other email address, which by coincidence is also read by your
TB!.

T> I should say that I have both POP and IMAP accounts in this mess,
T> and at the moment I am trying to filter from a POP account (gmail)
T> to an IMAP (local, my freebsd server running postfix) account.

OK, I can talk only about POP. Don't know whether Move would work
to/from an IMAP account.

T> Eternal gratitude in advance -

Are you sre about the 'eternal' part? ;-)

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Re: Automatic backups

2010-07-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jack,

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 07:29:47 -0500GMT (25-7-2010, 14:29 , where I
live), you wrote:

DC>>> Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date

RO>> Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me.

JSL> Roelof, can you give us an example of just how you are able to accomplish 
that?

I've  disabled  the  autobackup  feature  and  created an event in the
scheduler, that event is set to create a backup with the name:
E:\Mijn Backups\The Bat!\%Date="MMDD".tbk
It  has  been  discussed  previously on the list that the macros don't
work for the autoback, but they do for the scheduler driven backups.

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Re: Sig font

2010-07-25 Thread Rick
> Hello Rick,

> On Saturday, July 24, 2010 you wrote:

>>> Ideally one could create an HTML message with all the different
>>> font modifications in the sig and then save it as a template for future use.
R>> OOPS let me add that the actual sig will probably have to be a graphic
R>> as oddball fonts will not be viewed correctly on other computers

> Love your sig Rick.  I threw my wallet in the washer.

> So anyway, are you saying that it's possible to add a graphic to a TB! 
> template? If so, how?

In  any  template window, go to FORMAT and change it to HTML. Then the
icons  will  appear  including one to add a graphic. Make a folder for
bat  graphics  and  copy  them  there since they are not stored in the
template and will otherwise disappear if you move them.

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Filtering across accounts

2010-07-25 Thread TheLimit

Hey Batters -

I use a lot of filters here, the filters are one of the
things that make it impossible for me to use a different 
mailer, but I'm having some issues now. 

I've had to rebuild my whole email db, as I mentioned
recently, and I've also acquired a few more accounts.
Because of the problems I've been having the last year or
so with the scrambled db (post trojan infection some
installs/reinstalls didn't take as well as I expected, and
to make a long story short, I have abandoned 10+ years of
email and started over) people are often using the 'wrong'
addy to email me, and though I'll eventually get
them sorted out, in the meantime my correspondence is a
shambles.

I thought the easy way to deal with this would just be to
filter these emails from the 'wrong' account to a
folder in the 'right' account, since the filter options
imply strongly that you can do just this.

However, this isn't happening, and I can't figure out why.
Since a couple of hours of tinkering had no useful
result, and one of the options in the filters is to
'redirect the message', I thought that would probably
work.

However, I struck out there, too.

I should say that I have both POP and IMAP accounts in
this mess, and at the moment I am trying to filter from a
POP account (gmail) to an IMAP (local, my freebsd server
running postfix) account.

So .. can anybody tell me where I'm going wrong?

Eternal gratitude in advance -

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Automatic backups

2010-07-25 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings all,

In continuing to research this problem (for me anyway) I discovered an email 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg89326.html) which 
contains a regex which supposedly will produce a backup which has a filename 
containing both the date and time.

With this info I proceeded in this fashion: Under TOOLS>SCHEDULER I get the 
following display:

Please note, the ACTIONS line is highlighted.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4826693567_2b7b6893ca_b.jpg

If I right-click on the highlighted ACTION line I get this:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4826749585_39baee5213_b.jpg

Clicking on EDIT gives me this:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/4826765417_14afdb4daf_b.jpg

Notice the "To backup file (standard)" button is selected and further notice 
the partially visible filename contained in the box.

Someone commented on the post mentioned in the above first paragraph that when 
he tried this regex, TB! produced a backup titled with a
3-or-4-digit-number.tbk.  The number preceding the ".tbk" was the time the file 
was created i.e. if the backup ran at 1105am the file name would be 1105.tbk  
He mentioned that since a scheduler by definition is always going to run at the 
same time, the backup would fail apparently because of it attempting to use the 
same filename.

I personally don't know how to use regex expressions but I was able to take the 
originally posted regex and remove the part which generated the un-needed time 
string. The resulting regex looks like this:

D:\Bat 
backup\%SETPATTREGEXP="(\d+).(\d+)\.(\d{4})"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%DATESHORT"%Subpatt="3"%Subpatt="2"%Subpatt="1".tbk.
 

When I told the scheduler to execute the action NOW, this is the resulting file 
as it appears on my D: drive:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4827422984_610599fba8_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4827423784_9a94e312fa_b.jpg

Notice there is no actual filename but only an icon followed by .tbk. However, 
if you hover the cursor over the icon you get this:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4827438052_79c30877ba_b.jpg
As you can see the type, date and size of the file is displayed.

I have no idea why an icon is created instead of a text string showing the date 
but I would love to know. Something in the regex perhaps?

Anyway, as a test I created a backup (today, the 25th) which resulted in an 
icon filename as mentioned, and then changed the date on my computer and 
generated another backup by the same above method.  TB!, apparently recognizing 
that the original icon filename backup was created "yesterday" (the 25th), 
overwrote it and created a new icon filename with tomorrow's date(the 26th) 
appearing in the hover.

This apparently solves my original problem and I can run with it but it sure 
would be neat if TB! created a new, different backup instead of overwriting the 
existing one.

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Re: Automatic backups

2010-07-25 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello David,

On Sunday, July 25, 2010 you wrote:

DE> Hi Jack,

DE> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010, at 07:29:47 [which was on Sunday at 13:29 where I live]
DE> you wrote:

DC Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date

RO>>> Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me.

DE> < ... >

>> I found an old email on this subject, written by me coincidentally, which
>> seems to indicate that the macro:
>> autobackup-%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk

DE> That looks like the one I was using before I moved TB! to another machine.


For some reason that doesn't work anymore, if it ever did. I don't remember.  
However, please see my latest post on the subject where I have managed to get 
TB to at least overwrite the existing backup without hanging because of 
identical filenames.  You should be able to see exactly what "filename" is in 
the your scheduler.

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Re:Automatic backups

2010-07-25 Thread David Elliott
Hi Jack,

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010, at 07:29:47 [which was on Sunday at 13:29 where I live]
you wrote:

DC>>> Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date

RO>> Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me.

< ... >

> I found an old email on this subject, written by me coincidentally, which
> seems to indicate that the macro:
> autobackup-%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk

That looks like the one I was using before I moved TB! to another machine.

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Re: Automatic backups

2010-07-25 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Roelof,

On Sunday, July 25, 2010 you wrote:

RO> Hallo David,

RO> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:25:00 -0400GMT (24-7-2010, 17:25 , where I
RO> live), you wrote:

DC>> Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date

RO> Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me.

Roelof, can you give us an example of just how you are able to accomplish that? 
 I tried to do that using several of the examples I found in the archives but 
all I was ever able to do was get a filename which was the exact string of 
characters used in the macro which should have equated out to a date or 
date/time filename.

I found an old email on this subject, written by me coincidentally, which seems 
to indicate that the macro: autobackup-%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk 
would produce a backup filename consisting of the date and time.  Alas, all it 
did (I just tried it) was produce a backup with the filename 
"autobackup-%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk". It looks like the %DATE and 
%TIME aren't being recognized by TB!, at least not for an automatically 
generated filename. I even tried to simplify it by using 
"autobackup-%DATE-%TIME.tbk" and I ended up with a backup file called: 
autobackup-%DATE-%TIME.tbk.

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Re: Automatic backups

2010-07-25 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello David,

On Sunday, July 25, 2010 you wrote:

DE> Hi Jack,

DE> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, at 11:20:24 [which was on Saturday at 17:20 where I
DE> live] you wrote:

DC>>> A  way  to  have TB!  manage several backups would be good.  Give
DC>>> it a base  filename  and  then let it name them name-date and an
DC>>> option for how  many  to  maintain  so  that it deletes the oldest
DC>>> one(s) once it makes a new backup and reaches that point.

>> Exactly!

DE> I did use to have regEx for the automated backup that contained the day of 
the
DE> week. This way I would only have 7 backups, and for some reason it would 
just
DE> write over on old backup. (Not sure of my settings)

DE> I would like to find the regEx again as I have recently moved TB! to a new
DE> computer.

Well, if you ever remember how you did it, please post it so we can all stop 
using the assumed shortcomings of TB! as an excuse not to do backups. :)

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Re:Automatic backups

2010-07-25 Thread David Elliott
Hi Jack,

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, at 11:20:24 [which was on Saturday at 17:20 where I
live] you wrote:

DC>> A  way  to  have TB!  manage several backups would be good.  Give
DC>> it a base  filename  and  then let it name them name-date and an
DC>> option for how  many  to  maintain  so  that it deletes the oldest
DC>> one(s) once it makes a new backup and reaches that point.

> Exactly!

I did use to have regEx for the automated backup that contained the day of the
week. This way I would only have 7 backups, and for some reason it would just
write over on old backup. (Not sure of my settings)

I would like to find the regEx again as I have recently moved TB! to a new
computer.

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Re: Automatic backups

2010-07-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo David,

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:25:00 -0400GMT (24-7-2010, 17:25 , where I
live), you wrote:

DC> Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date

Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me.

DC> and an option for how many to maintain so that it deletes the
DC> oldest one(s)

That  would  be  a  nice  option,  currently  I'm doing that manually.
Generally  when  my  system  complains  about  shortage of disk space,
deleting  a load of 2 GB archives does wonders for that. I guess that
if  I  really  wanted  to  automate  that, I could find a way (with or
without TB) but it's very low on my todo list.

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Re: Automatic backups

2010-07-25 Thread Raymund Tump
Hi!

With backups you should rely on the grandfather principle.

So you have the current backup, the last one and the one before that.
Therefore I would like to see an option that you could set a schedule
for three backups which will be overwritten everytime they are
triggered. (It should be possible to specify three different locations
that to be on the very safe side :-))

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