Re: Filtering across accounts
On 7/25/2010 you wrote: > Send us your filter for disection. Here is the redirect filter - > That's a completed different think. The Move filter will move the > message in the DB on your computer, Redirect will send it by SMTP to > the other email address, which by coincidence is also read by your The thing is, it IS different, so I would expect to see some difference in the result. But no, no difference at all. The messages just sit there ... This is probably going to be something monumentally stupid, but I have a lot of filters that DO work, and I'm not sure I don't have one right now that is working across accounts! tia! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7600 4.2.36.4 TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [054E7612.01CB2C32.2ADC997A.35462964] Name: Terry Filter: {\0d\0a\20`0`0`rubytu...@live.com\0d\0a} Redirect template Hello\20%TOFName,\0D\0A\0D\0A\20\20%Cursor\0D\0A\0D\0A--\20\0D\0ABest\20regards,\0D\0A\20%FromFName\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20\20mailto:%FromAddr send address l...@turriff.net IsContinue IsActive Ignore IsSendNow endFilter Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering across accounts
On 7/25/2010 you wrote: > Hello Lynn, > On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:25:33 -0700 GMT (26/Jul/10, 3:25 AM +0700 GMT), > TheLimit wrote: T>> I thought the easy way to deal with this would just be to T>> filter these emails from the 'wrong' account to a T>> folder in the 'right' account, since the filter options T>> imply strongly that you can do just this. > Yes, this works over here. If the fitler is triggered it performs a > Move To action. Yes, I've had other filters that worked fine across accounts. But this one doesn't. T>> However, this isn't happening, and I can't figure out why. > Send us your filter for disection. Yessir! > My guess is that either the filtering condition isn't what you think > it is, or there is another filter catching that mail and not > continuing with other filters. Mmm. I was thinking on those lines too, but can't find it. T>> Since a couple of hours of tinkering had no useful result, and one T>> of the options in the filters is to 'redirect the message', I T>> thought that would probably work. > That's a completed different think. The Move filter will move the > message in the DB on your computer, Redirect will send it by SMTP to > the other email address, which by coincidence is also read by your > TB!. This is all true :-) However, it would get it from the gmail inbox to the perseus inbox, where the local filter which *does* work in that account could shuffle it off to it's correct folder. Theoretically. T>> I should say that I have both POP and IMAP accounts in this mess, T>> and at the moment I am trying to filter from a POP account (gmail) T>> to an IMAP (local, my freebsd server running postfix) account. > OK, I can talk only about POP. Don't know whether Move would work > to/from an IMAP account. Well, it's true that there are some definite weirdnesses about IMAP accounts, which I don't much like, in truth. But for assorted reasons I went that route here, and I'm kind of doggedly determined to make it work, you know? T>> Eternal gratitude in advance - > Are you sre about the 'eternal' part? ;-) Sure I'm sure. Aren't you sure? If we can't be sure about eternity, what can we be sure about? ;-) What we CAN'T be sure about is the spell checkers! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7600 4.2.36.4 TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [054E7612.01CB2C32.2ADC997A.35462964] Name: Terry Filter: {\0d\0a\20`0`0`rubytu...@live.com\0d\0a} MoveMessage folder \5C\5CLynn\5CFriends\5CTerry IsContinue IsActive Ignore IsSendNow endFilter Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering across accounts
Hello Lynn, On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:25:33 -0700 GMT (26/Jul/10, 3:25 AM +0700 GMT), TheLimit wrote: T> I thought the easy way to deal with this would just be to T> filter these emails from the 'wrong' account to a T> folder in the 'right' account, since the filter options T> imply strongly that you can do just this. Yes, this works over here. If the fitler is triggered it performs a Move To action. T> However, this isn't happening, and I can't figure out why. Send us your filter for disection. My guess is that either the filtering condition isn't what you think it is, or there is another filter catching that mail and not continuing with other filters. T> Since a couple of hours of tinkering had no useful result, and one T> of the options in the filters is to 'redirect the message', I T> thought that would probably work. That's a completed different think. The Move filter will move the message in the DB on your computer, Redirect will send it by SMTP to the other email address, which by coincidence is also read by your TB!. T> I should say that I have both POP and IMAP accounts in this mess, T> and at the moment I am trying to filter from a POP account (gmail) T> to an IMAP (local, my freebsd server running postfix) account. OK, I can talk only about POP. Don't know whether Move would work to/from an IMAP account. T> Eternal gratitude in advance - Are you sre about the 'eternal' part? ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.33.9 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hallo Jack, On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 07:29:47 -0500GMT (25-7-2010, 14:29 , where I live), you wrote: DC>>> Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date RO>> Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me. JSL> Roelof, can you give us an example of just how you are able to accomplish that? I've disabled the autobackup feature and created an event in the scheduler, that event is set to create a backup with the name: E:\Mijn Backups\The Bat!\%Date="MMDD".tbk It has been discussed previously on the list that the macros don't work for the autoback, but they do for the scheduler driven backups. -- Groetjes, Roelof '95 - The percentage of people who will have to upgrade their hardware http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.0.50 ALPHA Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp2dLvEeI3b1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig font
> Hello Rick, > On Saturday, July 24, 2010 you wrote: >>> Ideally one could create an HTML message with all the different >>> font modifications in the sig and then save it as a template for future use. R>> OOPS let me add that the actual sig will probably have to be a graphic R>> as oddball fonts will not be viewed correctly on other computers > Love your sig Rick. I threw my wallet in the washer. > So anyway, are you saying that it's possible to add a graphic to a TB! > template? If so, how? In any template window, go to FORMAT and change it to HTML. Then the icons will appear including one to add a graphic. Make a folder for bat graphics and copy them there since they are not stored in the template and will otherwise disappear if you move them. -- Rick It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them. - P. G. Wodehouse v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering across accounts
Hey Batters - I use a lot of filters here, the filters are one of the things that make it impossible for me to use a different mailer, but I'm having some issues now. I've had to rebuild my whole email db, as I mentioned recently, and I've also acquired a few more accounts. Because of the problems I've been having the last year or so with the scrambled db (post trojan infection some installs/reinstalls didn't take as well as I expected, and to make a long story short, I have abandoned 10+ years of email and started over) people are often using the 'wrong' addy to email me, and though I'll eventually get them sorted out, in the meantime my correspondence is a shambles. I thought the easy way to deal with this would just be to filter these emails from the 'wrong' account to a folder in the 'right' account, since the filter options imply strongly that you can do just this. However, this isn't happening, and I can't figure out why. Since a couple of hours of tinkering had no useful result, and one of the options in the filters is to 'redirect the message', I thought that would probably work. However, I struck out there, too. I should say that I have both POP and IMAP accounts in this mess, and at the moment I am trying to filter from a POP account (gmail) to an IMAP (local, my freebsd server running postfix) account. So .. can anybody tell me where I'm going wrong? Eternal gratitude in advance - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7600 4.2.36.4 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Automatic backups
Greetings all, In continuing to research this problem (for me anyway) I discovered an email (http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg89326.html) which contains a regex which supposedly will produce a backup which has a filename containing both the date and time. With this info I proceeded in this fashion: Under TOOLS>SCHEDULER I get the following display: Please note, the ACTIONS line is highlighted. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4826693567_2b7b6893ca_b.jpg If I right-click on the highlighted ACTION line I get this: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4826749585_39baee5213_b.jpg Clicking on EDIT gives me this: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/4826765417_14afdb4daf_b.jpg Notice the "To backup file (standard)" button is selected and further notice the partially visible filename contained in the box. Someone commented on the post mentioned in the above first paragraph that when he tried this regex, TB! produced a backup titled with a 3-or-4-digit-number.tbk. The number preceding the ".tbk" was the time the file was created i.e. if the backup ran at 1105am the file name would be 1105.tbk He mentioned that since a scheduler by definition is always going to run at the same time, the backup would fail apparently because of it attempting to use the same filename. I personally don't know how to use regex expressions but I was able to take the originally posted regex and remove the part which generated the un-needed time string. The resulting regex looks like this: D:\Bat backup\%SETPATTREGEXP="(\d+).(\d+)\.(\d{4})"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%DATESHORT"%Subpatt="3"%Subpatt="2"%Subpatt="1".tbk. When I told the scheduler to execute the action NOW, this is the resulting file as it appears on my D: drive: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4827422984_610599fba8_b.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4827423784_9a94e312fa_b.jpg Notice there is no actual filename but only an icon followed by .tbk. However, if you hover the cursor over the icon you get this: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4827438052_79c30877ba_b.jpg As you can see the type, date and size of the file is displayed. I have no idea why an icon is created instead of a text string showing the date but I would love to know. Something in the regex perhaps? Anyway, as a test I created a backup (today, the 25th) which resulted in an icon filename as mentioned, and then changed the date on my computer and generated another backup by the same above method. TB!, apparently recognizing that the original icon filename backup was created "yesterday" (the 25th), overwrote it and created a new icon filename with tomorrow's date(the 26th) appearing in the hover. This apparently solves my original problem and I can run with it but it sure would be neat if TB! created a new, different backup instead of overwriting the existing one. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello David, On Sunday, July 25, 2010 you wrote: DE> Hi Jack, DE> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010, at 07:29:47 [which was on Sunday at 13:29 where I live] DE> you wrote: DC Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date RO>>> Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me. DE> < ... > >> I found an old email on this subject, written by me coincidentally, which >> seems to indicate that the macro: >> autobackup-%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk DE> That looks like the one I was using before I moved TB! to another machine. For some reason that doesn't work anymore, if it ever did. I don't remember. However, please see my latest post on the subject where I have managed to get TB to at least overwrite the existing backup without hanging because of identical filenames. You should be able to see exactly what "filename" is in the your scheduler. -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Automatic backups
Hi Jack, On Sun, 25 Jul 2010, at 07:29:47 [which was on Sunday at 13:29 where I live] you wrote: DC>>> Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date RO>> Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me. < ... > > I found an old email on this subject, written by me coincidentally, which > seems to indicate that the macro: > autobackup-%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk That looks like the one I was using before I moved TB! to another machine. -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver 4.2.36.4 on Windows 7 6.1.7600 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello Roelof, On Sunday, July 25, 2010 you wrote: RO> Hallo David, RO> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:25:00 -0400GMT (24-7-2010, 17:25 , where I RO> live), you wrote: DC>> Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date RO> Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me. Roelof, can you give us an example of just how you are able to accomplish that? I tried to do that using several of the examples I found in the archives but all I was ever able to do was get a filename which was the exact string of characters used in the macro which should have equated out to a date or date/time filename. I found an old email on this subject, written by me coincidentally, which seems to indicate that the macro: autobackup-%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk would produce a backup filename consisting of the date and time. Alas, all it did (I just tried it) was produce a backup with the filename "autobackup-%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk". It looks like the %DATE and %TIME aren't being recognized by TB!, at least not for an automatically generated filename. I even tried to simplify it by using "autobackup-%DATE-%TIME.tbk" and I ended up with a backup file called: autobackup-%DATE-%TIME.tbk. -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello David, On Sunday, July 25, 2010 you wrote: DE> Hi Jack, DE> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, at 11:20:24 [which was on Saturday at 17:20 where I DE> live] you wrote: DC>>> A way to have TB! manage several backups would be good. Give DC>>> it a base filename and then let it name them name-date and an DC>>> option for how many to maintain so that it deletes the oldest DC>>> one(s) once it makes a new backup and reaches that point. >> Exactly! DE> I did use to have regEx for the automated backup that contained the day of the DE> week. This way I would only have 7 backups, and for some reason it would just DE> write over on old backup. (Not sure of my settings) DE> I would like to find the regEx again as I have recently moved TB! to a new DE> computer. Well, if you ever remember how you did it, please post it so we can all stop using the assumed shortcomings of TB! as an excuse not to do backups. :) -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Automatic backups
Hi Jack, On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, at 11:20:24 [which was on Saturday at 17:20 where I live] you wrote: DC>> A way to have TB! manage several backups would be good. Give DC>> it a base filename and then let it name them name-date and an DC>> option for how many to maintain so that it deletes the oldest DC>> one(s) once it makes a new backup and reaches that point. > Exactly! I did use to have regEx for the automated backup that contained the day of the week. This way I would only have 7 backups, and for some reason it would just write over on old backup. (Not sure of my settings) I would like to find the regEx again as I have recently moved TB! to a new computer. -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hallo David, On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:25:00 -0400GMT (24-7-2010, 17:25 , where I live), you wrote: DC> Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me. DC> and an option for how many to maintain so that it deletes the DC> oldest one(s) That would be a nice option, currently I'm doing that manually. Generally when my system complains about shortage of disk space, deleting a load of 2 GB archives does wonders for that. I guess that if I really wanted to automate that, I could find a way (with or without TB) but it's very low on my todo list. -- Groetjes, Roelof Luxury: Costs $7.69 to make and $20.00 to market. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.0.50 ALPHA Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpNDmXUPLqNz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hi! With backups you should rely on the grandfather principle. So you have the current backup, the last one and the one before that. Therefore I would like to see an option that you could set a schedule for three backups which will be overwritten everytime they are triggered. (It should be possible to specify three different locations that to be on the very safe side :-)) -- Regards, Raymund pgpvaux5z0XX3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html