Re: delete msg from server - BUG?
Hi Peter, I'm using it, but I did think about it yet ... I've done some testings and can only state it works. Thanks for testing. Pretty strange that it works for you. I've tested it a few times with different configurations and it _never_ deleted any mails from the server. I am using TheBat 1.53t - maybe that's my mistake? Is the current Betaversion stable enough to try it? Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Bill Gates: (from: http://www.cantrip.org/nobugs.html) There are no significant bugs in our released software that any significant number of users want fixed. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: delete msg from server - BUG?
Hi Roelof, thanks, so I guess noone is using this feature. I suppose the reason for not using it is that it doesn't work. :-) How do I file a bug report? Thanks, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Intelligence has nothing to do with politics. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: delete msg from server - BUG?
A few days ago I asked this and noone replied. :-( Does that mean that noone knows or that noone cares? Maybe some kind soul who has successfully managed to do it that way could drop me a few lines, plase? I have the impression that the mail management option Delete message from server when it is removed from Trash doesn't work. I tried it with IMAP4 and POP3, but it is never deleted from the server. Could it be that I am doing anything wrong or is this a BUG? Thanks so much, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Don't claim that you know everything - besides not being true, it's very irritating to those of us who do. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
delete msg from server - BUG?
Hi! I have the impression that the mail management option Delete message from server when it is removed from Trash doesn't work. I tried it with IMAP4 and POP3, but it is never deleted from the server. Could it be that I am doing anything wrong or is this a BUG? Thanks, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v The Briggs/Chase Law of Program Development: To determine how long it will take to write and debug a program, take your best estimate, multiply that by two, add one, and convert to the next higher units. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: What is X-UIDL?
Hi Roelof, It's a header used by mailing lists to identify to which subscriber the message was sent to. That makes it possible to recognise the intended recipient when a message bounces. Lots of mailing lists insert the name and address of the list in the To: header, so that info can't be used. Hm, I don't think this is correct. As far as I know this header is inserted by the imap or pop server. Wait a second, I'll search on google: http://www.claws-and-paws.com/spam-l/blocking.html X-UIDL There is a feature of the POP3 protocol, (which is used to download e-mail from your ISP) where you can issue a command called UIDL which will generate unique identifiers for each message where results in that header being written into the message. So, if your POP3 client doesn't add those in (like mine), you can safely filter on them. Here's a valid header, for reference: X-UIDL: b07a13a309dff618f53a09eeb9b966cc There are more headers that are being used like this, it's software dependant. Though X-UIDL is often encountered in spam, it's not restricted to spam. (Unfortunately.) But it _IS_ possible to discover spam just analyzing the headers. There are various clues. And combining them, a pretty good estimate can be done. Spamassassin does that for example and it works great. Since the day I've installed it only _one_ SPAM got through to my inbox. :-) Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v It's Friday, so I'll go to work early...even before lunch! (from BOfH) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
StrongBat?
Hi, where can I find more info on StrongBat? Thanks, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Dogs come when they're called; cats take a message and get back to you later. --Mary Bly -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: StrongBat?
Except some mentions on this list - nowhere. So far. So, it only exists in theory??? :-) The Bat! = No protection AuthenticBat! = Logon protection StrongBat!= MailBase encryption SecureBat!= Logon protection + MailBase encryption That's exactly why I ask. Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Your picture of the world often changes just before you get it into focus. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: automatic encryption of message file
Hi Peter, Andy: I have to admit I was wrong. No problem. Good to see that there are still people out there who can admit their mistakes. A rare attitude these days. :-( is stronger than before implemented in 'StrongBat!' and 'SecureBat!' Please tell me more about StrongBat. Never heard about it before. SecureBat sounds great, but is too expensive for me right now. :-( Thanks, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Death to all fanatics! -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
automatic encryption of message file
Hi Batters, I thought that I had read somewhere that TB encrypts the message files (messages.tb*) so that noone can read my mails just opening these files. But my TB doesn't seem to do this. I can see all of the text when I open messages.tbb with notetab or any other editor. Can this be done and how, please? Thanks a lot for any hint or pointer, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Nobody wants to know what you're doing until you're doing something that you don't want anyone to know. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: automatic encryption of message file
Hi Peter, With using 'SecureBat!'. http://www.ritlabs.com/securebat/index.html Sure, but I am pretty sure I read something like this in a mail or on the website of TB, but now I can't find it anymore. An alternative would be using PGPDisk and putting mail base on a PGP secured 'virtual' drive. Hm, thanks for the idea. Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Hiroshima 45, Tschernobyl 86, Windows 98 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: automatic encryption of message file
Hi Peter and Jernej, Maybe you're mixing up having read about 'compressing' and 'encrypting' message base ... ?!? Hm, at least that sounds very interesting. How would that be done? AFAIK, it did until 1.42 when the messages base format was changed. Maybe that's the solution. ,- [ TB versions ] | The Bat! = No protection | AuthenticBat! = Logon protection | StrongBat!= MailBase encryption StrongBat??? Never heard of it? Where can I find more info on that? Thanks to both of you, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Noone is useless. He can at least serve as a bad example. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Norton detects Virus in TBB file - please help
S What else does compression do? Nothing else. It compresses the database (mail ~) by _real_ deleting messages marked for deletion. That way it decreases the size of message base by _real_ taking out the content, while 'Delete' only sets a flag and does not decrease the (physical) size by one bit. Is there a way to delete these flags so that the deleted message reappear? Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v A feature is a bug with seniority. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: how do I bounce a message?
Hi Pit, I don't know if you're able to check this out right now as I see you only posting with mutt, but give: Sure can. VMware makes it even possible without leaving my comfy seat. :-) Account / Properties / Templates / Forward / Use MIME standard for forwarding a try :-) Ahh, great. Really too bad that some of the good features of TB are hard to find. I don't know which version exactly introduced the 'Alternative Forward' option but that option (to find either in menu Message / Specials or Ai, didn't find that either. in current Beta menu Specials directly) Good idea! While we're at it. Is there a way to make on exit: compress the folder be default for ALL my folders? I often forget setting this option when I create a new folder and end up wondering myself. Thanks, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Never apologize for showing feeling. When you do so, you apologize for the truth. -- Benjamin Disraeli -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: how do I reply to more than one mail?
Hi Pit, I don't know if I'm one of these 'experts' called. I suppose you are one of the programmers, right? But I do know there is no such options you'd like to use. Really too bad. It would be very useful. To you, too, once you get used to the feeling, believe me. You I think you will argue with me, this _is_ a complex thing you'd like to see realized. I'll give it a try. :-) I don't see why that would be so difficult. The only challange is to merge the headers of the mails being replied to. Why is that so difficult? To say something to your last sentence: why the heck everybody brings out this 'configurable option' if there's something that's wanted and it is told that this maybe will not come. That's human, isn't it? Does anybody screaming out this nice phrase about 'configure everything' has have some few thought about what _configuring everything_ means? Yep, I sure do know what I am talking about. Since many years I am mainly using Unix and I think the many configuration options are one of THE strength of all unix programs. If there's something I don't like or like different, I'll simply configure it differently. :-) Not only you have to double or triple the development time for having as much as possible configurable, no ... you also double or triple time for bug finding, human error detecting because everybody has it's own system. That's true, but _only_ in the non-public-domain world. Open up your source code and the whole world will help you find the bugs. Well, I guess that's a little off topic now. Just wanted to mention that your statements only apply to this part of the software world. Additionally: you can't make configurable everything without loosing function. I completely disagree. It is quite _impossible_ to have the same function 'static' and in conjunction with 'configure around 50-100 parameters as you like, all effecting this function'. Impossible would mean that noone could do it, right? If that's correct, you are wrong. Take almost ANY unix mail client but especially mutt. It has so many configurable options you can hardly count them. And it works just great. So all but impossible. ;-) Everybody that listened in mathematic lessons only 1% of time should know: the more options/parameters the bigger the amount of possible results. I agree. So all what you need here is more people that participate in testing and bug finding. That too is mathematics: the more testers the less bugs. :-) We this end we all can see and marvel in dozens of wonderful products from Redmond: No,no,no,no, please don't compare ANY software with the huge bugs MS is spreading out over the world. Anyone can do better than GatesCo. I'd like to see TB! staying small. Not in funtion; in size needed on disk. This is only possible if there's a deadline of 'customization'. Hm, small you say. Fine, one more time my comparison with mutt: I just counted the diskspace of it: 523 KB Okay, including all used dynamic libraries which doesn't make much sense, but what the heck: 2.3 MB Then I counted the diskspace used by TheBat directory (subtracting the Mail directory of course): 7 MB (I have no idea what other DLLs TheBat uses so I couldn't add that) Well ... I think nobody else is interested, but for the archive I had to write this mail :-) Just for being able to say I've already written this ages ago! *ggg* Dito. Here again, I completely agree with you, hehe. Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v With your one remaining eye, please do NOT look back into the laser msg31520/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how do I reply to more than one mail?
Hi Allie, AS I would have expected that if I mark various mails and hit reply AS that I get all of them quoted. In a single message?! Wow. I'd expect a separate reply message containing quoted text for each of the messages I selected. No, that's pretty useless. If I want that behavior I hit reply every single one. One by one. There's no use in opening all these windows the same time, because I can't fill them out at once anyway. :-) If only one message is generated, how should the header information be filled out? Do you wish for it to be blank. Do you wish for all the sender addresses for each of those messages to be inserted in the To: field of the single reply containing 'all' the quoted material? Yes, that's exactly what I'd consider useful. A most unusual requirement this is. :-) I don't think so. Mutt (my unix mailclient) does this and it's a commonly used feature. Well, I guess I have to live with it, i.e. without it. Too bad. Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v To make mistakes is human; to stumble is commonplace; to be able to laugh at yourself is maturity. -- William Arthur Ward -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: how do I bounce a message?
Hi Roelof, Actually the Resent-headers aren't important for the delivery of the message. You're misinterpreting their function. Hm, I think you are right about that! I tried it with sendmail -t, but in that case sendmail probably just reads the Resent-headers and uses them to generate an smtp-envelope. Your problem is that TB alters the headers of redirected messages, Yep. :-( In my view your wishes are more something for a server than a client, but who am I. ;-) Depends on how you see it. Sometimes I work like the server. :-) A feature request can be sent to: RITLABS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v I have studied many philosophers and many cats. The wisdom of cats is infinitely superior. - Hippolyte Taine -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: how do I reply to more than one mail?
Hi Carsten, Do you really want to _reply_ more than one mail at once? Yes. I think what you actually want to do is forwarding the contents of several mails. I think what you think is that you think you know what I think, but you don't. You can mark some mails and do an 'alternative forwarding' (MIME-forward). Does this help a bit? No, I want to reply, e.g. very often I have 5 mails from a friend of mine and I don't want to reply with 5 mails, but with all the answers in one. Well, it just doesn't work that way in TB. :-( Bye, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
how do I bounce a message?
Hi again, another short one: How do I bounce a message so that the From: and To: Lines don't change? Under Linux I use mutt and elm and they have this great bounce feature that resends the message without changing the original mail. It just adds these header lines: Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:58:43 -0500 Resent-To: Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED] In TheBat I don't find anything similar. Its resending feature always changes the To: line, the date, etc. Thanks for any hint, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v When Marriage is Outlawed, only Outlaws will have Inlaws. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
how do I reply to more than one mail?
Hi flying Batters :-) just a quick question about TheBat! which I really learned to love: How do I reply to more than one mail so that I get the text of all the original mails nicely quoted? Thanks a lot, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Q: How do you stop Bill Gates from drowning? A: Shoot him. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: how do I bounce a message?
Hi Marck, The trouble is, if you received a message then the To: line is to you. If you resend it still To: you then it does a boomerang. As far as I know this is incorrect. If there are Resent- headers then the To: line is ignored. I just tried it. 1) Using an SMTP remailer to place an envelope around the message with a different delivery target. (TB is not one of these). 2) MIME forward the entire message as an attachment. And 3) just put Resent- headers in and refeed it to the smtp server. Other than that Redirect is as close as you get. But it changes ALL the header lines. :-(( Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Microsoft spel chekar vor sail, worgs grate !! msg31491/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how do I reply to more than one mail?
Hi Dave, How do I reply to more than one mail so that I get the text of all the original mails nicely quoted? Reply to one email. Copy text to clipboard from a different email. Go back to your reply and click Edit / Paste as Quotation or hit Alt-Insert. Hehe, good joke. Sure that works and that's how I always do it in lack of a real solution. I would have expected that if I mark various mails and hit reply that I get all of them quoted. So you are saying there's no way to do that? Thanks, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v The product is seldom as good as the advertisement. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: how do I reply to more than one mail?
Hi Andrew, Hmmm. I think maybe what Andy wants is some kind of automated-reply. You can set up mail filters that do this. Am I right? No :-) What I want is forward a mail without changing any part of the mail not even the headers. What TheBats redirect does is close but it changes all the headers. Even the To: line. Maybe you wonder why I need this. Well, an example: I work in a small radio here in Peru and we have a general email address for requests, comments etc. So my wife - who gets all these mails - decides who is best to receive and process this mail and bounces it to that person. So far this works with the redirect feature, too. But if the recipient wants to see where this mail really came from, at which address it was directed or any other part that can be seen in the headers, he can't. Just the From and Reply-To line are still the same. Not even the Received lines or the Message-ID are kept. :-( Thanks, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v I'm not afraid of storms, for I'm learning to sail my ship. -- Louisa May Alcott -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: how do I reply to more than one mail?
Hi Dave and Roelof, I didn't realize I was joking. :-) That's always been a very adequate solution for me. OTOH replying to multiple emails with one reply is not something I do a million times a day. Well a few times a week still is often enough for such a feature. I just did it right now so that I don't have to write 2 mails responding to the two of you. So you are saying there's no way to do that? I would be expecting comment from some of the more expert members of the list if there were another solution :) Hello experts, where are you? :-) AS a real solution. I would have expected that if I mark various mails and AS hit reply that I get all of them quoted. You're getting them quoted, but in separate messages, as it should be. Hm, as it should be is pretty subjective. My should be is pretty different. Normally this a sure sign for a configurable option. Thanks, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Harrisberger's Fourth Law of the Lab: Experience is directly proportional to the amount of equipment ruined. msg31503/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how do I bounce a message?
Hi Marck, RFC822 says: 4.5. RECEIVER FIELDS 4.5.1. TO / RESENT-TO This field contains the identity of the primary recipients of the message. It says nothing about mutual exclusivity, which means that if both are present then the To: field would be used for routing in addition to the Resent-To:. Wait a moment, you have to read the whole RFC: :-) 4.2. FORWARDING Some systems permit mail recipients to forward a message, retaining the original headers, by adding some new fields. This standard supports such a service, through the Resent- prefix to field names. To me this does say something about mutual exclusivity. Besides that's how sendmail does it and always has done it. It never happened to me that the address from the To: line was used again. Using TB, we don't get control over that - it's just taken from the To: field or even just left to the SMTP server to siphon out of the various destination address fields and place in the RCPT TO: envelope header. Great, so all we'd have TB make do is add the Resent-To line and make it feed the whole mail to the smtp server. Do you see anyway to do that? If not how and where could I make such a feature request? 2) MIME forward the entire message as an attachment. Eh, by the way, how do you MIME-forward a message with TB. I don't see to be able to find that option. My TB always does an inline-forward. :-( Other than that Redirect is as close as you get. AS But it changes ALL the header lines. :-(( Well, the To: and the Date: ... nothing else that I can see. Nope, ALL the headers except From, Subject and Reply-to. Here's an example: Here is the original message: | From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 13 19:57:52 2001 | Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Received: from hamster.int.radiomaranon.org.pe (spiegl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) | by localhost (8.12.0.Beta12/8.12.0.Beta12/Debian 8.12.0.Beta12) with ESMTP |id fBE0vqPS012508 | for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 19:57:52 -0500 | Received: (from spiegl@localhost) | by hamster.int.radiomaranon.org.pe (8.12.0.Beta12/8.12.0.Beta12/Debian |8.12.0.Beta12) id fBE0vq8R012506 | for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 19:57:52 -0500 | X-Authentication-Warning: hamster.int.radiomaranon.org.pe: spiegl set sender to |[EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f | Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 19:57:52 -0500 | From: Dr. Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: Heidi Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Testing 1 2 3 | Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mime-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 | Content-Disposition: inline | User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i | X-PGP-GPG-Keys: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR mail -s send pgp [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Organization: Radio =?iso-8859-1?B?TWFyYfHzbiw=?= Peru | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit | X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by |hamster.int.radiomaranon.org.pe id fBE0vqPS012508 | | [body] After a redirect: | From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 13 20:04:55 2001 | Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Received: from schleppie.int.radiomaranon.org.pe (schleppie.int.radiomaranon.org.pe |[192.168.96.2]) | by pinguino.int.radiomaranon.org.pe (8.12.0.Beta12/8.12.0.Beta12/Debian |8.12.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id fBE14tPS012757 | for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:04:55 -0500 | Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:06:45 -0500 | From: Dr. Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED] | X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53bis) Personal | Reply-To: Dr. Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmFkaW8gTWFyYfHzbiwgUGVydQ==?= | X-Priority: 3 (Normal) | Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Testing 1 2 3 redirect | X-Sender: Heidi Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED] | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit | | [body] There is hardly _anything_ left over. :-( Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Why is the man who invests all your money called a broker? (George Carlin, US comedian) msg31504/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
