Re: %TOFNAME for more then one address

2001-01-27 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello,

Saturday, January 27, 2001, 5:50:10 PM, A. Curtis Martin wrote:

SS>>> What can I do in order to see all my recipients names in the
SS>>> beginning of the message ?

> I don't know of any way to do this. AFAIK, it cannot be done.

How about using a regular expression which filters the recipients'
(first) names from the %TOList macro?

I tried and failed, but my knowledge on regular expressions is very
limited. Maybe someone else would like to try?

I move this to TBTECH.


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Re: A few questions and an appology.

2001-01-25 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello Joseph,

Thursday, January 25, 2001, 3:16:15 PM, you wrote:

>   Lastly, is there any way to set the Bat up so it doesn't try
>keeping each line of a paragraph all the same edging.  I mean take
>my paragraphs here.  The first line properly starts indented,
>except The Bat has been fighting me the whole way through this
>message trying to line every paragraph line with the first line.

Try to turn off "Auto Indent" in the Editor Preferences (right click
in the Editor window and choose "Preferences...".


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Re: Vacation/Out of office auto-reply?

2001-01-24 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello Gerry,

Wednesday, January 24, 2001, 5:29:41 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Bat lovers,

> Is there a way in which I can auto-reply to a message and say that I
> am either on vacation or out of the office?  BUT, I ONLY want to send
> this message to people who are already in my address book?

Yes. Create an incoming mail filter with the Action "Send Auto-Reply"
and use the option "Address(es) must be listed in the address book"
under the Advanced tab.

HTH

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Re: TB! v1.49 - proper "no addressee" filter

2001-01-24 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello Jan,

Wednesday, January 24, 2001, 3:53:29 PM, you wrote:

>   What is the proper form to indicate to TB! via filter that if no
>   addressee appears in "To:" to move msg to a certain (in my case, SPAM)
>   folder. I tried this by leaving the Recipient rule blank but it
>   captured too much maybe because I had it too high in the filter list.

How about

Strings  Location   Presence
@Recipient  No

That would capture everything not containing @ (which should be
present in every mail with non-blank recipient fields).

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Re[3]: Like Notepad with word-wrap...

2001-01-20 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello Lija,

Saturday, January 20, 2001, 11:40:31 AM, you wrote:

T>> In that case I guess you will have to create .doc files and attach
T>> them to the email.

> No, I won't send attached mail and write it in MS Word ;)

Another way is to write your text in Notepad or another plain text
editor and attach that. It is still attached (I know, you said you did
not want that), but it is in no proprietary format like MS Word. And
it is not wrapped (if you configured your text editor not to use hard
returns).

AFAIK in e-mail programs it is recommended by RFCs and part of the
netiquette that hard returns are added by the e-mail programs at about
70 characters a line. This is e.g. helpful for quoting.

Texts which you want to process further after mailing should be sent
as an attachment.


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Strange > (was Re[2]: Account configuration file)

2001-01-14 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hi,

could you tell me what happened here?

I wrote in the last message (and this is also what shows up in my sent
folder):

 "From the readme-file:" (without the quotes)

and now I just received my very own message with the following line

 ">From the readme-file:" (without the quotes)

Well, how did that ">" get there? It only happened in this one line.


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Re: Account configuration file

2001-01-14 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello Olivier,

Sunday, January 14, 2001, 12:10:53 AM, you wrote:

> I've been giving TheBat! a thourough testing, and it's addressing all
> of my needs EXCEPT for a more automatic way to change SMTP servers of
> the various accounts.

I don't know if that was already suggested by someone else. It seems
to me that you might want to consider using an external program called
X-Ray.

>From the readme-file:

 X-Ray is a mail-filtering program. Major objectives of X-Ray are:

  1. To provide privacy by removing unwanted mail headers;
* 2. To make it convenient to switch between several different
 incoming and outgoing mail servers without reconfiguring your
 mail software;
  3. To operate stably and unobtrusively.

If you want to take a look, go to http://www.xrayapp.com/.

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Re: SMTP setting at folder level (was Re[2]: Multiple email everything.)

2001-01-13 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hi,

Saturday, January 13, 2001, 11:40:17 AM, I wrote:

> You might want to create a filter to move sent messages back to the
> first account's outbox.
  **
  Of course, I meant the sent folder.

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SMTP setting at folder level (was Re[2]: Multiple email everything.)

2001-01-13 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello Shahar,

Saturday, January 13, 2001, 11:13:58 AM, you wrote:

> Can I set an SMTP settings to a folder within an account so I can
> force the messages to be sent from that specific folder through a
> specific SMTP server ?

I think, the only thing you can do is to create a dummy account (or
use an existing one with the specific SMTP settings) and put the
%ACCOUNT="account name" macro into your folder templates.

You might want to create a filter to move sent messages back to the
first account's outbox.

By the way, I started a new thread since the old one was made a Dead
Horse by one of the moderators. (And your question was not really
related to the thread anyway ;-).)



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Re: Sorting the incoming messages within Inbox - I give up...

2001-01-08 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello Homesick,

Monday, January 08, 2001, 12:12:30 PM, you wrote:

> I  would  be  glad to be able to turn off this option, at least until I get more
> disciplined for using this great email client...

I think you turned on the option View/View threads by/From. Turn off
threading by View/View threads by/None or ALT+0.

HTH

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Re[3]: how use The Bat for news...?

2001-01-08 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello ztrader,

Monday, January 08, 2001, 5:05:36 AM, you wrote:

> On Sunday, January 07, 2001, 4:12:58 PM, Urban wrote:

U>> There is a list of servers and a couple of at nice links at
U>> <http://www.nethamster.org>.

> I did not see mention of hamster.misc.en at this site, or on any of
> the links listed at this site. Still looking. :-)

Go to http://www.nethamster.org/serverwatch.htm and click on show
Server.

Since it is partly in German I suggest a couple newsservers to you
which seems to carry all or most of hamster.* (and hamster.en.misc):

news.uni.net

news.cis.dfn.de (you need to register first on
http://news.cis.dfn.de/, but it's free).

On http://www.nethamster.org/serverwatch.htm there is also a proposal
which you may send to the newsmaster of your newsserver to ask him to
include hamster.*.

HTH

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Re: The Bat! - bug report / Long lines in email message

2001-01-06 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello Andrej,

Saturday, January 06, 2001, 8:27:57 AM, you wrote:

> Other problem, many people writes their messages in MS WORD, then
> copies to The Bat!, each paragraph in this case turns to one long line

This can be avoided. Either use Alt+L to format the paragraph or
(better if you have several paragraphs to paste) use Edit/Paste
Formatted (Shift+Ctrl+Ins).

> In a case with POP3 server of my WEB HOSTER, if this long line is
> longer than 1024 characters, it is simply silent, without noise is cut
> off on 1024 character.

AFAIK it is part of the netiquette to limit the characters on one line
to be no more than 65 (RFC 1855). There might be rules talking about
slightly different limits (like 80 characters or so) but it certainly
is below 1024 ;-)

> I understand, you can speak that it is a problem of my WEB HOSTER, and
> certainly I already speak with them about this, however is present rfc
> which regulates quantity of characters in one line:

> [...]

> So I consider incorrect that The Bat! allows the users to send the
> messages with long lines. Likely there are many more servers where the
> long lines are cut off and users at all do not know about it!!!

As you can see in the Editor Preferences TB wraps your text at 70
chracters a line (this number can be changed). However Auto-wrap
(another option) works only on typed text. Pasted text needs either to
be "Pasted formatted" or formatted later.

TB, however, allows you to have longer lines. And it won't change your
e-mail after you send it (like e.g. Outlook Express does), which is a
very good thing. There might be instances when you would want to have
a line longer than the limit (for exapmle ion order to have a
clickable URL - TB does by default not auto-wrap URLs).

I agree that it was sort of a pain when pasting text consisting of a
lot of paragraphs and formatting each one individually. But (I believe
since versoon 1.48?) there is the option to "Paste formatted" which
avoids these problems.

Regards,

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Re[2]: Dupes every time I check mail

2001-01-04 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello Thomas,

Thursday, January 04, 2001, 7:53:25 PM, you wrote:

> Hallo Matthias,

> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:36:49 -0500 GMT (05/01/2001, 02:36 +0800 GMT),
> Matthias Worch wrote:

MW>> I used Win2k telnet, too, and didn't have problems. This sounds like
MW>> you didn't actually connect to the mail server in question - telnet
MW>> itself won't know any of the commands, only the server does :)

> I did connect, and I can use other commands. I can for exmaple run my
> beloved pine... No, I was indeed on the server. But I think they have
> disabled the commands they don't deem necessary, for security reasons.

You connected to the server on the regular telnet port (22, I
believe). That way you might or might not get access to the server
using a unix shell (depends on how the server is configured). Since
you are able to use pine, you really seem to be using some Unix shell.

But in order to access the POP3 server you need to connect to port
110. Either type "telnet hostname 110" or configure your telnet client
to use port 110 in another way.

Only then you get the POP3 interface and can use the POP3 commands.

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Re[3]: The Bat! - bug report - message dispatcher

2000-12-31 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello,

Saturday, December 16, 2000, 9:27:49 PM, I wrote:

>>> BTW, AFAIK there is one other person on the German TB list who had the
>>> problems I described.

>> You mean he/she also uses a Vodoo Banshee card? Just to make sure.

> I don't know. I already asked him by posting in the German mailing
> list and I am awaiting his answer. I'll tell you when I know more.

Okay, I got the answer now. He uses Windows 2000 SP1 with a Diamond
Monster Fusion 16 MB with the drivers shipped with Windows 2000. That
is about the same setup I've got. Only I use card by a different
manufacturer (but with the same chipset). I also used the same driver
(I now use a 3dfx beta driver with the same problems).

So, we got the problem nailed down: Vodoo Banshee and Windows 2000.

The only problem is: I got the latest driver and I don't want to buy a
new graphics card (since the one I got works fine everywhere else).

As for now, I won't be able to use the dispatcher (without problems
that is).

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Re[2]: The Bat! - bug report - message dispatcher

2000-12-20 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello Ming-Li,

Wednesday, December 20, 2000, 2:26:29 PM, you wrote:

> Also all time fields show a strange string of "xsupp" at the end
> before the scrambled part. So maybe there's indeed something wrong
> other than the driver.

That would explain, why this happens nowhere else.

> Since you're using a German version of TB, could you try to
> uninstall the language pack and see if the problem disappear in a
> English only version. I vaguely remember some other people ran into
> troubles (not the same one, though) after installing the language
> pack.

Is there a way to uninstall the language pack without uninstalling TB
itself? If there is, I did not find it. I renamed TheBat.LNG
whereafter TB was only able to show up in English, but that had no
effect on my problem.

> BTW, have you email the .png file to RIT for debugging? Did you
> remind them of the erratic display in the time fields. (They might
> miss it, as I did, since the scrambled part at the far right is so
> obvious and might take attention away from other details.)

I sent them the same message that I posted on this list. I might do
what you suggested later when (or if) I get the feedback from the
German mailinglist by someone with the same (or a similar) problem.
However, maybe they already read your message and are already trying
to fix it (hopeful thinking).



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Re[4]: The Bat! - bug report - message dispatcher

2000-12-20 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello Jamie,

Monday, December 18, 2000, 4:32:25 PM, you wrote:

DB>> Is there anyone with a Vodoo Banshee card not having my prolem? (Just
DB>> checking.)

> Yes me. A sparkle card w/Voodoo Banshee chipset. Always workd happily
> with my Voodoo 4500.

> [...]

>  The Bat! 1.48 Beta/12
>  Windows 98 4.10 

OK, that means the problem does not come up on Windows 98. Anyone with
Vodoo Banshee on Windows 2000? (Someone must confirm this problem,
please ;-)

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Re[3]: The Bat! - bug report - message dispatcher

2000-12-20 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello Jamie,

Monday, December 18, 2000, 4:30:48 PM, you wrote:

> Would the reference driver at www.3dfx.com work? I used a sparkle
> Voodoo Banshee and always used the reference drivers. I can get you an
> 8MB TNT card cheap if you need it 

I already updated to the beta driver I found on www.3dfx.com by now
(This was the only one being offered for Vodoo Banshee on Windows
2000.) Still, the problem persists.

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Re[2]: The Bat! - bug report - message dispatcher

2000-12-16 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello Ming-Li,

Saturday, December 16, 2000, 4:29:54 PM, you wrote:

>> BTW, AFAIK there is one other person on the German TB list who had the
>> problems I described.

> You mean he/she also uses a Vodoo Banshee card? Just to make sure.

I don't know. I already asked him by posting in the German mailing
list and I am awaiting his answer. I'll tell you when I know more.

Is there anyone with a Vodoo Banshee card not having my prolem? (Just
checking.)

David

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Re[2]: The Bat! - bug report - message dispatcher

2000-12-16 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hi,

Friday, December 15, 2000, 6:36:46 PM, I wrote:

> Is there anyone else with a Vodoo Banshee on Windows 2000 having this
> problem?

BTW, AFAIK there is one other person on the German TB list who had the
problems I described.

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Re: The Bat! - bug report - message dispatcher

2000-12-15 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello Ming-Li,

Sorry for breaking the thread but until now I was in digest mode.

Friday, 15 Dec 2000 04:56:44 -0800, you wrote:

> This looks like a display driver problem. Have you tried to update
> your display driver?
 
It looks like, doesn't it? The only problem is: it does neither happen
anywhere else in TB nor in any other program. Also because I use an
ELSA Victory II with Vodoo Banshee chipset on Windows 2000, I cannot
update the display driver. As far as I know the only driver that works
is the Vodoo Banshee driver that is shipped with Windows 2000. (ELSA
does not offer a special one.) And buying a new graphics adapter only
because of the message dispatcher - I don't think I want to do that
;-)

It might be interesting what's so different in the message dispatcher
as opposed to the other parts of TB. There must be something causing
this. I use TB a lot and these effects only appear in the dispatcher.

Is there anyone else with a Vodoo Banshee on Windows 2000 having this
problem?

Marek wrote:

> BTW use TBBETA for bugreports instead TBUDL please.

I am not subscribed to it and (even though using a TB 1.48 beta for
the first time now) waited for the final version. Are bug reports
regarding official releases really supposed to go to the beta list? If
that is so, I'll subscribe and post there next time.

just came in from "A. Curtis Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> It's perfectly admissible to make bug reports on TBUDL provided that
> the bug concerns an official release version of the software.

That's what I thought. And even though my TB calls itself Beta/12 it
is really 1.48 Xmas (that problem came already up on TBBETA).

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The Bat! - bug report

2000-12-15 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hello The Bat! developers,

  I'm using The Bat! Version 1.48 Beta/12 (<-- actually 1.48 final?)
  Serial Number 6B687002
  under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1
  and would like to report a bug

  The bug description:

 The message dispatcher appears scrambled.  Clicking with the
 mouse leaves traces. This is happening since version 1.48.
 Screenshot: http://www.buntenbroich.de/tb/dispatch.png
 
  Steps to reproduce the bug:

 On my computer: Account/Dispatch Mail On Server/All Messages

Regards,
  David Buntenbroich



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Re[2]: moving filters to another account

2000-07-24 Thread David Buntenbroich

Monday, July 24, 2000, 4:34:37 PM, I wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Does  anybody  know an easy way to move the filters from an account to
>> another?
> Press ALT+CTRL while moving them (with your mouse).

Well I was still thinking about the other message.  While my statement
is true for moving _folders_, it is not for moving _filters_ :-(

Sorry,

By the way, if there's a way of moving filters to other accounts, I'd
like to know as well.

David

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Re: moving filters to another account

2000-07-24 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hi Roger,

> Hi,
> Does  anybody  know an easy way to move the filters from an account to
> another?

Press ALT+CTRL while moving them (with your mouse).

David

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Re: Sorting accounts

2000-07-24 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hi Roger,

> To  sort  folders in an account it's easy: just select the account and
> click  on  the header "Folder". But how can I sort the accounts in way
> to put the most used ones in first place?

Press ALT while moving them.

David

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Add multiple recipients to address book

2000-07-23 Thread David Buntenbroich

Hi,

i just started using The Bat some days ago and I really like all the
features.  (I changed from Outlook Express when I had to realize that
version 5.5 still made no improvements on all kinds of missing
functions.)  Since I am still learning, the question I am going to ask
might have an easy workaround and it might have not.  (First I was
also going to ask how to move folders, because without knowledge of
having to press the CTRL+ALT keys while moving it, I had to create new
folders, move the messages and delete the old folders...:-( )

Well, now my question: When I have multiple recipients and I want to
add one, some or all of them to the adress book, I end up having one
single entry with all their names as one name and the first e-mail
address as the e-mail address (using Specials/Add Recipients to Adress
Book). The only workaround I could find was to create new entries in
the address book manually and use copy and paste :-(
Is there any other (easier) way?  (I couldn't find anything in the
FAQs.)

Greetings from Cologne, Germany,

David

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