Preferences window won't enlarge

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Since re-installing The Bat! (v. 4.2.44.2) after having had to  re-install 
Windows 7, when I go to Options|Preferences, the window that comes up is a 
small square window (maybe 15-20 lines long) that won't allow me to enlarge it 
or change it in any way. It, appears to be frozen.

I want to change some of the General preferences, but when I click on that, 
only about half of the page shows, and there's no way to click OK after I 
change a preference (the one on animation, for example).

How can I get the Preferences window to display correctly so that I can see the 
full page?

I'm sending this as plain text, and I have no idea how to make it word wrap.

Thanks for any help.


Mike Greenbaum 




Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Forward Message Question

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I'm using TB version 3.95.6.

Whenever I try to forward mail to people in one of my address book groups, the 
text of the message I'm trying to forward gets deleted.

My group macro for Forward reads:

%FROM="Mike Greenbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"

%TEXT


The first line changes my return address from the default. The second should 
forward the text of the message I'm trying to forward (I thought).

I thought %TEXT would quote the original message. I have no individual macros 
set for individuals in this group, so why is my forwarded message being erased?

-- 
Mike



Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Editing Received Messages

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Is there a way to edit a message one has received--not for reply but for filing.

For example, I sometimes get email messages from people without subject lines 
or with meaningless subject lines. I'd like to file the message with a subject 
line that makes sense to me, so I'd like to add a subject line (if their's was 
blank) or change the one they used with one of my own.

At other times I'd like to add my own comments to the body of the message for 
my own purposes--without replying to the person.

I can't figure out if one can do this in TheBat!.

Thanks.

-- 
Mike



Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: Searching Log Files

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Sunday, January 25, 2004, Roelof Otten wrote:

> You can access the log file from disk in:
> C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail\Accountname\Account.log
> Accountname needs to be substituted with the name of the account.
> On my system I've associated .log files with Notepad, so double
> clicking does the trick for me.

I tried that and it worked easily.  Thanks for the advice.

 --
Mike





Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Searching Log Files

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Is there any way of searching within the log file in TB?

I know I could copy and paste the file to a word processor, but I'd
rather search the log file itself.

I tried F7, but that doesn't work, nor does the Windows search which
is normally invoked by CTRL-F.

I using TB 2.01.3 Business edition on a PC running XP Professional.

Thanks for any help.

 --
Mike



Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Searching Log Files

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Is there any way of searching within the log file in TB?

I know I could copy and paste the file to a word processor, but I'd
rather search the log file itself.

I tried F7, but that doesn't work.

Thanks for any help.

 --
Mike





Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Scroll Wheel Problem

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I'm using TB 2.02.3 on a computer running Windows XP.

For some reason, my mouse scroll wheel doesn't work in TB. It's fine
in all my other programs, but not in TB.  I'm using a Logitech
MouseMan Wheel connected to a USB port and I'm using Logitech's
mouseware software to configure the mouse (can't seem to locate the
version number).

Anyone else have this problem?  Any suggestions how I can get the
wheel to work?

Thanks.

Mike



Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: Search bug?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I just solved my own problem.

I didn't have the View Threads by in the View menu set to none.

As soon as I set it to none, everything was fine.


Mike
-- 
JANUS BOOKS, LTD.
Post Office Box 40787
Tucson, AZ  85717
Phone:  520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165
  Fax:  815-333-2938
http://janusbooks.com
Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and PayPal accepted.
Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association)



Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Search bug?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

> I just resubscribed today to this list and sent in a question about a
> problem I encountered doing a search. I sued the above subject line.

But I didn't collect a cent! :)  Obviously I didn't proofread
either.

Should have, obviously, been: "I used the above subject line."

Mike
-- 
JANUS BOOKS, LTD.
Post Office Box 40787
Tucson, AZ  85717
Phone:  520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165
  Fax:  815-333-2938
http://janusbooks.com
Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and PayPal accepted.
Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association)




Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Search bug?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I just resubscribed today to this list and sent in a question about a
problem I encountered doing a search. I sued the above subject line.

However, I don't seem to be getting email from the list yet, so if
anyone has replied on this topic, could they cc me at the above
address--just until my list mail begins arriving.

Thanks.



Mike
-- 
JANUS BOOKS, LTD.
Post Office Box 40787
Tucson, AZ  85717
Phone:  520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165
  Fax:  815-333-2938
http://janusbooks.com
Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and PayPal accepted.
Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association)



Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Search bug?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I did a couple of searches today using the message finder.  In each
case, it displayed one fewer than the number of results it said it
found.

For one search, it said along the bottom of the window that it found 2
messages.  But it displayed only one.  There *were* two messages but I
had to find the other one manually.

Later on I did another search.  The message said it found 5 messages,
but it displayed only 4.

I'm using 2.01.3 business edition.  Is this a known problem?

Any suggestions?


Mike
-- 
JANUS BOOKS, LTD.
Post Office Box 40787
Tucson, AZ  85717
Phone:  520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165
  Fax:  815-333-2938
http://janusbooks.com
Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and PayPal accepted.
Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association)



Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Sending plain text

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

For another group I belong to, I need to be sure that all messages are
sent in plain text, not html.

I thought there was a place I could set this in 1.62, but I can't find
out where it is in 2.03.

Any help would be appreciated.

Mike
-- 
JANUS BOOKS, LTD.
Post Office Box 40787
Tucson, AZ  85717
Phone:  520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165
  Fax:  815-333-2938
http://janusbooks.com
Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and PayPal accepted.
Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association)



Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: Purchased v2 - how do i get it - Changed to Signature Delimiter

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Jonathan:

Thanks for your help.  I did find the download, and this morning, I
got my registration key.  Guess I was just too anxious.

On Saturday, November 01, 2003, Jonathan Angliss wrote:

> As a small note, your email appears to be missing a signature
> delimiter, or cut mark. This mark (shown just above my name) is in the
> format of [dash][dash][space][enter] ("-- "). This allows TB to
> automagically strip any data from below it, such as the list footers,
> or additional signature information that you may decide to put in your
> emails.

I've never heard of the signature delimiter you describe above. Is
this a custom or requirement for The Bat mailing list? After I read
your email, I checked other mail from TB, and much of it does indeed
seem to have the delimiter you mention. But I don't find it used in
any of the other three business-related lists I belong to.

As it happens, with my "normal" signature (which I didn't use for the
email I sent with my question but which I have included below), I do
have a double dash after my name and before my company information. It
was done originally for aesthetic purposes, not for the reason you
describe.

However, it seems inappropriate, to me, to put the double dash
*before* my name because then it separates my name from what I've
written, and that interrupts the flow of the correspondence. It's like
signing one's name on a separate sheet of paper when writing something
by hand.

Also, while I can understand wanting to get rid of the "commercial
messages" many people (including me) use in their email, what's the
purpose of stripping out the sender's name?


Mike
--
JANUS BOOKS, LTD.
Post Office Box 40787
Tucson, AZ  85717
Phone:  520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165
  Fax:  815-333-2938
http://janusbooks.com
Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and PayPal accepted.
Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association)



Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Purchased v2 - how do i get it?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I just purchased v2 to get in under the October 31 deadline.

I gave all my credit card information and clicked register.  I got a sheet
to print out showing my order and telling me I'd get an email.

I got the email almost immediately, thanking me for purchasing The Bat
and repeating my registration information, but there was nothing to
tell me how exactly I can download TB!

So what do I do next?  Is there another email coming?  Nothing in the
email I got tells me to expect another one.

Thanks for any help.


Mike



Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Off-Topic: PGP Questions

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I realize this forum is for TB questions, but I see so much on here
about PGP, I thought I might ask a few questions about PGP. Since
these questions are not really germane to the list, if you'd prefer to
answer off-list, that would be fine.

I've never used pgp, but the discussion on here has made me curious. I
checked the pgp.com website, but I still have only the vaguest idea of
how it works. As I understand it, its purpose is to prevent anyone
other than the intended recipient from looking at one's email and to
prevent that email from being altered along the way.

First question:

I assume that PGP prevents anyone from intercepting the email at some
point between a person's sending it and its arrival at the computer to
which it was intended. Does it also prevent anyone at that computer
from reading the email other than the intended recipient? In other
words, if I send an email to a husband, does PGP prevent the wife's
from reading it on her husband's computer?

Second question:

This is *not* a smart-ass or rhetorical question. I'm fairly naive,
but in five years of sending email, including my credit card numbers,
I've never had anything intercepted between my computer and the
recipient's computer. I'd be interested in knowing if anyone else has
ever had their own email intercepted.

Third question:

I see the value of encrypting an email with really important or
sensitive information, but I note that many people seem to encrypt
their email to this list as well, even when it contains nothing
valuable that would seem to warrant encryption. Is there an advantage
to encrypting personal or unimportant business email or do people just
encrypt everything they send out by default?

Last question:

I went to the pgp.com site but couldn't find anything that really
explains the nuts and bolts of how the system works. Their site seems
aimed at people who already understand what pgp is. Once one is signed
up, from what I've seen, one has to put some kind of PGP key or notice
at the bottom of their email. I've seen it call a public key. Is there
also a private key? Does the recipient of an email have to get one or
more keys to read the email or to reply to it? Does everyone on your
mailing list have to have some kind of key to send you an email? I
have no idea of how this key thing works and would be happy to get an
answer or to have someone point out to me where to go (please don't
take that too literally!).

Thanks for any help.


Mike
--
JANUS BOOKS, LTD.
Post Office Box 40787
Tucson, AZ  85717
Phone:  520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165
  Fax:  815-333-2938
http://janusbooks.com
Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and PayPal accepted.
Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association)



Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[3]: Purchased the Bat!

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Sunday, October 26, 2003, Anthony G. Atkielski wrote:

> It's remotely possible that someone I know might send me a
> legitimate message with "Vicodin" repeated eight times in the
> subject, or strings of random letters in the subject, even though
> it's not at all probable.

I apologize if this has been previously discussed (if so, please
direct me to the appropriate thread and I'll look it up), but is there
a way to filter those strings of random letters? I didn't even know
how to describe the problem before reading your description above.


Mike Greenbaum



Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[3]: Purchased the Bat!

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Sunday, October 26, 2003, Anthony G. Atkielski wrote:

> It's remotely possible that someone I know might send me a
> legitimate message with "Vicodin" repeated eight times in the
> subject, or strings of random letters in the subject, even though
> it's not at all probable.

I apologize if this has been previously discussed (if so, please
direct me to the appropriate thread and I'll look it up), but is there
a way to filter those strings of random letters? I didn't even know
how to describe the problem before reading your description above.


Mike Greenbaum



Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: Questins related to the log

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Thanks to all who replied.

I hadn't realized I could access the log other than through the
CTRL-SHIFT-A.  By opening it in notepad, I was able to search for
just what I needed.

Thanks again.


Mike
--
JANUS BOOKS, LTD.
Post Office Box 40787
Tucson, AZ  85717
Phone:  520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165
  Fax:  815-333-2938
http://janusbooks.com
Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover, and PayPal accepted.
Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association)



Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Questins related to the log

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

1.  Any idea how I can do a search inside the log?

I can invoke the log with CTRL-SHIFT-A and see the activity, but if I want
to do a search to find out which filter processed a particular message
(which I need to do when I can't figure out why something was moved
to, say, my Spam mailbox), there's no way I can search for that
particular message. I'd at least like to be able to search for the
words "processed by" so I can find those messages which were processed
by filters. If I try to use CTRL-F, nothing happens.

I guess I can copy the whole log into my word processing program and
then search, but I don't understand why I can't search within the
log.

2.  Also, I can't go back and forth between the log and TB.  When the log
is open, I can't do anything else in TB until I close it. Why?

3.  One other log-related question.  What do the green and blue arrows
mean or do?  Can't figure them out.

The working of the log seems a bit awkward, but perhaps I don't
understand its purpose.


Mike
--
JANUS BOOKS, LTD.
Post Office Box 40787
Tucson, AZ  85717
Phone:  520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165
  Fax:  815-333-2938
http://janusbooks.com
Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover, and PayPal accepted.
Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association)



Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Reformatting multiple paragraphs at once

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Saturday, December 28, 2002, Allie Martin wrote:

> The 'Paste Formatted' command, i.e., CTRL-Shift-Ins will reflow
> multiple paragraphs at once. If you have a lot of paragraphs to
> reflow, you could select them all, hit CTRL-C or CTRL-X to copy them
> to the clipboard and then hit the Paste Formatted command. All
> paragraphs will be re-flowed and pasted back into the editor.

> If you have a macro tool installed, you could convert those two
> shortcut keystrokes into a single macro keyboard shortcut.

Allie:

THANK YOU, once again!

I've always had a problem with this and never known how to do it. I
use Ctrl-Shift-Ins when I paste material from other programs into an
email, but I never thought of using Ctrl-X along with it!

Brilliant. Another item that should be be added to the FAQ.


Mike
--
JANUS BOOKS, LTD.
Post Office Box 40787
Tucson, AZ  85717
Phone:  520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165
  Fax:  815-333-2938
http://janusbooks.com
Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover, and PayPal accepted.
Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association)



Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Saturday, December 21, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote:

> All your mail for your accounts, quick templates and filters are
> stored in the 'Mail directory' in your installation folder, unless
> you moved the folder somewhere else. The default location is
> C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail

I tried this out this morning, and it works just fine with but one,
easily fixable, problem.

My laptop is set to check mail on opening TB while the desktop (which
is strictly backup and which I don't use for sending or receiving
emails) is set to *not* check mail on opening.

Of course, after I restore my laptop Mail folder to my desktop, the
desktop setting is changed to be the same as the laptop. I *did*
say I wanted a mirror image, didn't I?  Well, that's what I got!

The solution is that I'll have to change my laptop setting permanently
so that it doesn't check mail on opening and do that manually when I
open the program.  Not a biggie, and I can easily live with it.

Thanks, once again, for your help.


Mike
--
JANUS BOOKS, LTD.
Post Office Box 40787
Tucson, AZ  85717
Phone:  520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165
  Fax:  815-333-2938
http://janusbooks.com
Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover, and PayPal accepted.
Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association)



Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Saturday, December 21, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote:

>  :) I'm male.

I apologize for this.  Just ignorance on my part.

But as long as I'm writing you, I want to tell you that was a
brilliant explanation of the Synchronise program. It was not only
clear but it explained the *reasoning* behind the three steps which had
previously made no sense at all to me.

> Well, since you have the account and account folder tree mirrored on
> the desktop, it's just a matter of copying the 'Mail directory'
> from the laptop to the desktop, overwriting all that needs to be
> overwritten on the desktop.

> All your mail for your accounts, quick templates and filters are
> stored in the 'Mail directory' in your installation folder, unless
> you moved the folder somewhere else. The default location is

I've found the directory and will work on that this afternoon.  I
already use a third-party backup for all my other data so it would be
no problem to add the Mail folder to it.

Thanks again.


Mike
--
JANUS BOOKS, LTD.
Post Office Box 40787
Tucson, AZ  85717
Phone:  520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165
  Fax:  815-333-2938
http://janusbooks.com
Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover, and PayPal accepted.
Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association)



Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I'm using TB 1.61 Business Edition on a Pentium III laptop PC running
Windows 98 SE with 256 mb RAM.

I need to have a mirror copy of my mailboxes on a backup computer.

My main computer is a laptop and my backup computer is a desktop.
Currently, I use the TB Backup function to create a backup file from
my laptop which I then move, using PC Anywhere, to my desktop that I
use strictly for backup. After I move the file over to the desktop, I
do a Restore in TB.

The backup/restore process works fine. It brings over all the new
messages; however, it also keeps all previous messages, many of which
have been deleted from my laptop--or moved from one mailbox to another.

I'd like to be able to restore all my mailboxes so that the desktop
will mirror what is on my laptop.

I thought that the Synchonise program would do that, but I had
problems understanding how to use it.

Before writing this, I went to the list archive and found Allie
Martin's great explanation from January 2002 which seems to deal with
the same problem I'm having. Her instructions were much clearer than
the instructions in the Help Menu for the Maintenance center.

However, in her email she stated: "The synchronisation process doesn't
delete mail. It merely adds mail, folders and settings from the source
system that aren't present in the target system."

I tried the Synchronisation program--to be sure--and just as she said,
mail was added but not deleted.

Since neither Synchronise nor Backup/Restore will create this mirror
image I need, can anyone suggest an alternate solution?


Thanks.


Mike Greenbaum



Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Printing Problem

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Please forgive me if this problem has already been raised.

With version 1.60m, I'm running into a printing problem. If an email
is two pages or more, and I go to the print menu and tell TB to print
Pages From 1 To 1, the first page prints and then a blank sheet is
ejected with no printing on it.

This happens only in TB, not in any of my other programs, and I can't
figure out what's happening. It never happened with earlier versions.
I've had the problem only since switching to 1.60m.

I'm using TheBat! version 1.60m on a Pentium III 500 mg PC with
Windows 98 Second Edition and a Hewlett Packard printer Laserjet 4P.

Can anyone offer any suggestions?

Thanks.


Mike Greenbaum
--
JANUS BOOKS, LTD.
Post Office Box 40787
Tucson, AZ  85717
Phone:  520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165
  Fax:  815-333-2938
http://janusbooks.com
Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover and PayPal accepted.
Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association)
VISIT US AT THE DENVER BOOK FAIR, AUGUST 2 & 3.
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What happened to Help?--FOUND

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

The Help menu started working after I rebooted, so thanks to anyone
who responded to this question.


Mike Greenbaum



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What happened to Help?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I just downloaded version 1.60m and it displayed an Inbox - Known. My
previous version 1.53h didn't have this.

I went to the help menu to find out what this was, and when I click
contents or index, nothing happens?

Is this a problem on my computer or with the program?

Meanwhile, can anyone tell me what this Inbox-Known is, why I need it,
and how I get rid of it if I don't want it?

Thanks.

Mike Greenbaum



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Help Found!

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Thanks to all who replied to my request.

I've found my registration key and registered my copy so that I can
now download the later version.

It's great to have such a fine group of people who offer their help so
readily.

Thanks.

Mike Greenbaum




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Help Needed

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

My main computer, a laptop, crashed while at a bookfair. I am unable
to reboot even from an emergency floppy.

I have a backup an older computer here at home, and backed up before I
left, so I am not without my data.

However, the older computer has the trial version of TB 1.46. I had
subsequently registered and upgraded to about 1.53h, I believe. But I
never installed the later versions on the backup computer.

Is there any way to download 1.53h or another version without having to
pay a second time?  I may be without my laptop for a week or more.

I'd appreciate an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if anyone can suggest a
solution.  I'm going to try to get my email on the trial version, but
I can still pick up my mail through a web-based  email program.

Thanks very much.

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Problem Filtering for non-English characters

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I hadn't seen a reply to my previous posting a couple of days ago, so
I'm reposting it here. Would it be possible for respondees to send a
copy of the response to my email address in addition to sending it to
the list? I get the list as a digest and may not always see all
responses.

Mike

I'm trying to do a filter to get rid of messages sent in non-English
characters since I can't read them.

I set up a filter called non-English characters and then tried a rule
which put Á | Ä in the Strings box and filtered for Presence Anywhere
and told it to put the email in my Spam mailbox.  That didn't work.

I then tried enclosing them in quotes but that didn't
work.

I then did it through the Alternatives tab and put the first character
in the first set and the second character in the second set and it
still didn't work.

This last one filtered out two English messages which I examined
looking at the full headers. Neither one of the messages filtered out
contained either of the characters I was filtering for anywhere.
Meanwhile several emails WITH those specific non-English characters
were not filtered.

I'm clearly doing something wrong but can't figure out what it is.
Between the possibilities for using special characters in signal
strings and using Regular Expressions, I find the Help on this rather
confusing.

If I use pipes for an "or" condition, should there or should there not
be spaces before and after the characters I want to use for the
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Non-English Characters Filter Problem

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I'm trying to do a filter to get rid of messages with non-English
characters.

I set up a filter called non-English characters and then tried a rule
which put Á | Ä in the Strings box and filtered for Presence Anywhere
and told it to put the email in my Spam mailbox.  That didn't work.

I then tried enclosing them in quotes but that didn't
work.

I then did it through the Alternatives tab and pub the first character
in the first set and the second character in the second set and it
still didn't work.

This last one filtered out two English messages which I examined
looking at the full headers. Neither one of the messages filtered out
contained either of the characters I was filtering for anywhere.
Meanwhile several emails WITH those specific non-English characters
were not filtered.

I'm clearly doing something wrong but can't figure out what it is.
Between the possibilities for using special characters in signal
strings and using Regular Expressions, I find the Help on this rather
confusing.

If I use pipes for an "or" condition, should there or should there not
be spaces before and after the characters I want to use for the
filter? Should there be quotes around the characters I want to use for
the filter?


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Blocking unreadable email

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I have been receiving an increasing amount of mail or spam (I suspect
the latter) written in non-English characters.

I'm not being xenophobic, but I have no idea what these say, and so
there's not much point in my receiving them.

Is there any setting in The Bat! to allow me to block or filter
messages which are written in non-English characters? Since I don't
know what the words are, I have no idea how to make a filter.


Thanks.

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Printing Problem with 1.53d

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I recently upgraded from the 2000 Christmas edition to 1.53d. In
the Christmas version, hitting the print icon brought up the print
dialogue box and allowed me to decide which pages I wanted to print.

Now, hitting the print icon simply begins the printing process and all
pages are printed.

I find this fairly wasteful, since I usually don't need to print 2nd
and 3rd pages of a number of emails I receive.

I believe that in the Halloween edition of 2000, clicking the icon
printed everything (same as in 1.53d), and I hated it. I was very
happy when the Christmas (2000) edition changed that and brought up
the dialogue box.

Now things seem to have taken a step backward.

Why was this change made and is there any way I can have the dialogue
box appear when I hit the icon, rather than having to go into the
Message Print menu or hitting CTRL-P (which takes two hands, rather
than a single click with the mouse for the icon)?

Thanks for any help.

Mike Greenbaum


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Problem with URLS in AOL email

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On 9  Dec 2001 at 18:59:00 I wrote:

>> Anyone have any idea what the problem is and what the solution might
>> be?

On 10 Dec 2001 you responded:

>A faint one: AOL needs a special format for URL's, AFAIK. Lots of
>newsletters have a section "For AOL users".

>If he could define another browser (Opera, IE or Netscape) as the
>system default it should work. Or he just takes on another ISP. ;-)

This friend is nearly computer illiterate and lives in another city.
There's no chance he would be able to use another browser, and he's
not willing to change from AOL.

Is there anything I can do from TB to make URLs in my email to him
clickable on his AOL browser? He claims he gets mail from other people
and is able to click their URLs.


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Problem with URLs

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I apologize if this question has already been dealt with ad nauseum,
but a friend of mine, who uses aol for his browser, can't seem to open
URLs I send him by double-clicking on them.

He's using, I believe, aol version 5, and I'm using The Bat!
version 1.49. We're both on PCs.

Anyone have any idea what the problem is and what the solution might
be?

Thanks for any help.


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Re[3]: Files ending in .msg

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Tuesday, June 19, 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Yes, you can.  It is easier to go Options>Preferences>Applications and
> then click the four boxes and then click Associate Now.

I don't see an Options>Preferences>Applications in TB.  I see Options,
and then Editor Preferences, but that has no Applications tab or
choice.

Am I looking in the right place?

I did go to Windows Start>Settings>Folder Options>File Types and found
something called Outlook Item which showed an .msg extension and
changed that so that it would open with thebat.exe.

Will that do the same thing?

I loaded Outlook on my computer so a friend could access his email
from my laptop while we're on the road. Do you think this installation
changed any other extensions I should be aware of?

Thanks.


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Files ending in .msg

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I'm using TB Christmas edition and have been since, well, Christmas.

I just got a message this morning when I opened TB telling me that
files with the extension .MSG were not associated with The Bat! and
asking me if I wanted them to be.

I said No, but was this the right answer?  Should those files be
associated with The Bat?

Thanks.


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AVG (was Worm: What Do I Do?)

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I downloaded this AVG program twice, but I cannot find it on my hard drive
anywhere.

The second time, I carefully watched the download complete and noted
the location of the download c:/download.

When I went to look for it, it was not there.  I did a search using
the Windows 98 Find function, putting in avg*.* and nothing came up
but a font I have which begins with avg.

I'm using a 500 mghz Pentium III PC with a 10 gig hard drive and 256 k
of ram.  I downloaded a McAfee antivirus update this morning before I
found your site, and had no trouble whatsoever.

I've written to AVG but since they have no support, I doubt that I'll
hear anything from them.


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Re[2]: Worm: What Do I Do?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Sunday, April 29, 2001, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

> You should probably try the AVG virus scanner from www.grisoft.cz. I
> find it very reliable. The authors are themselves TB users.

Do they have a page in English?  My Russian is a bit rusty--actually
completely corroded would be more like it.

Thanks for the information.


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Worm: What Do I Do?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I had been (until this morning) getting the list in digest form and
sometimes didnn't read everything, so I just saw this message about the
worm infecting TB!

I have received a number of messages in what I presume is Russian (at
least they are non-English characters) in the last week or so.

I just delete them in the top pane and have not opened any of them, so
I don't know if this alone is enough to protect me.

I went to the web page which told me about the virus, but it didn't
seem to have any specific instructions about how to get rid of it.

Questions (and I apologize if they've been dealt with previously--so
you can answer directly and not clog the list if you prefer):

How do I know if I have it?

If I do, will a virus checker like McAfee pick it up?

If not, what do I do to get rid of it?


Thanks for any help.


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Mailto Changed with Upgrades

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Recently when I hit a mailto in Netscape, I noticed that TB was no
longer brought up as my mail program.  I was getting a Netscape form
instead.

I had installed nsproto.exe shortly after I started using TB, and it
had worked, so I was a bit puzzled.

Then I realized that recently I had upgraded both Netscape (to 4.75)
and TB (to 1.49).

I reinstalled nsproto.exe and all seems to be fine.

However, to help me in the future, which of these upgrades would have
been responsible for the change in my mailto setup: TB or Netscape or
both?


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.EML Files?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Since installing version 1.49 (yesterday), I've been getting the
following message when I open TB:

Files with the extension .eml are not associated with The Bat! Do you
wish to associate those files with The Bat!?

What are EML files? Why am I suddenly being asked about them? What
should I do about the message? So far, I've answered NO.

Any help would be appreciated.


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Re[4]: Opinion: "Blind Copy" emails should warn / not allow reply to original recipient

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Saturday, December 23, 2000, George F. Schoelles wrote:

> But perhaps in a message scenario that kept copy
> status as I described also forced the CC and BCC boxes to open for
> review would work. And or as an added bonus the background color could
> be emphasized.

Either of these would work also.  I could live easily with either of
them.  I just need something to jog my cobwebbed mind.  :)


Mike



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Re[2]: Opinion: "Blind Copy" emails should warn / not allow reply to original recipient

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Saturday, December 23, 2000, George F. Schoelles wrote:

> I concur that this would be a cool feature.  Or at least that all
> recipients kept their copy status.

All recipients keeping their copy status would not really remove the
problem.  There would still be people seeing the message who
shouldn't.  A warning would be a better way so that the replier could
then make the decision about who did or did not get copies.


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Re: Opinion: "Blind Copy" emails should warn / not allow reply to original recipient

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Saturday, December 23, 2000, Mike Harlos wrote:

> I feel that there is a potential for problems with
> the current process, in which a "Reply to all" includes the
> original/main recipient of the email of which you received a Blind
> Copy

I really agree with this one. A friend of mine just had a similar
situation occur when one of his employees replied to him about a
client but inadvertently sent a copy of his reply about the client to
the client as well because he hadn't realized the client had received
a bcc of the email sent to him! It took a bit of fast talking to the
client to get out of that one.

I try not to use Reply to All because I must admit that I don't look
at headings before replying so I'd really like that warning feature!

Thanks for a great suggestion.  Hope it can be implemented.


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Re[2]: Anomaly?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Tuesday, November 28, 2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

> Hallo Michael,

> On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:57:50 -0700 GMT (29/11/2000, 02:57 +0800 GMT),
> Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

MSG>> Not quite.  I have View>Display>All Messages, and I get it.

> Does it show the correct numers of selected messages?


No-- the number of selected messages is always one more than the
number of actually selected messages.


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Re[2]: Anomaly?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Tuesday, November 28, 2000, Gerd Ewald wrote:

>> To me it seems like the message only appears when something else
>> than "Display all messages" is checked under View->Display.

>> In other words when "Only unread" etc is checked, the message
>> appears.

> Hurray, that's it. But all what TB shows is correct here. Probably a
> problem meanwhile fixed in Betas?

Not quite.  I have View>Display>All Messages, and I get it.

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Anomaly?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I may have an explanation.  I seem to get the information about
messages only after I do a Check Mail.

Then if I pass my cursor over a blank area, the information appears.

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Re[2]: Anomaly?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Tuesday, November 28, 2000, Manfred Ell wrote:

MSG>> When I pass my cursor over the preview window, I get a small box
MSG>> telling me the total number of messages and the total number selected.

> Where do you get that box? I don't get anything.

I don't seem to get it in any consistent manner.  Sometimes it's there
and sometimes not.  It happens in the preview window (at the upper
right on my screen) when I pass my cursor over a blank area--for
example between the from and to fields.

But just now, I can't make it appear either. But it was there this
morning and is usually there. I know I didn't imagine it. If you turn
on Cool Hints in the Options menu, the information is highlighted and
in a larger font. I have Cool Hints turned off and see it, when I see
it, in a "normal" font.

Now I'm totally confused.

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Anomaly?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

When I pass my cursor over the preview window, I get a small box
telling me the total number of messages and the total number selected.

The total number is always correct, but the total number selected is
usually 2--even though I have only one message highlighted.

If I highlight two messages, I'm told I have 3 selected.

Do others have the same problem?


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Shtml

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Some people are sending me email which appears in two forms--as a
regular plain-text email and as a message.shmtl--whatever that is.

I don't want to get messages in the shmtl format. But I still want URLs in the 
plain-text messages to show as
hyperlinks.

Will unchecking the HTML auto-view in the options menu prevent these
messages from coming through?

Or is there another way to prevent messages coming through in this format?

I tried checking the Help menu and the FAQ, but there's nothing in
either under HTML.

Thanks very much.


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Suggestion:

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Does anyone else think it would be useful to be able to view and
change properties of address book entries when you access the address
book from the to or cc or bcc etc. lines on the the edit window?

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Kludges

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Okay, I've put this off when I've seen it before, but finally I've got
to ask.

What are kludges?


Mike Greenbaum

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Importing to Address Book Annoyances

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I've found two minor annoyances when importing addresses into TB from
a tab-delimited file.  I import only three fields from my database:
first name, last name, and email address.

First annoyance: TB uses the first record in my file to determine
which fields from my file should be matched with fields in the address
book. But then, it does not import the first record. It imports all
the rest, but omits the first. I'm forced to create a fake first
record in my database to allow TB to use it to line up fields so that
all other records will be imported. Why won't TB include the first
record of my file?

Second annoyance: if a field in my tab-delimited file is blank (which
frequently happens with businesses which don't have a first name), TB
moves everything else up so that the last name is put in the first
name field and the email address is put in the last name field, with
the email address left blank. Then I have to manually adjust the
fields in the address book. The only workaround I've thought of, but
haven't tried, is to reverse the field order when I export to the
tab-delimited file so that the email address is first, the last name
is second, and the first name is last. But this seems awfully clumsy
to me--aside from the fact that I'd never remember to do it the first
time. Why can't TB recognize a blank field and skip it?

Neither of these is critical, but they are annoying.


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Re[2]: Printing Templates Article from silverstone.com

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Sunday, October 29, 2000, Januk Aggarwal wrote:

> I don't think you'll like this suggestion, but about all you can do is
> switch to Internet Explorer

You're right again, of course. I have IE loaded but never use it (I
never use anything of Microsoft's if I don't have to). So I opened it,
got the article, printed it, and closed IE.

The article printed with no problem.

Thanks again.

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Registration Sale

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I just registered my copy of The Bat! on my 29th day.

Someone should tell those who have not registered, unless it's already
been brought up here, that there is a Halloween registration sale in
progress.  Prices are cheaper for registration and there is a discount
available for 2.x when it is released.

I would not have known about it had I not gone to the site since the
sale prices are not in the registration document on your computer.

The sale prices may only be good through October 30th--I can't quite
tell from the site!

Check out http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/register.html


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Printing Templates Article from silverstone.com

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I found the excellent article by A. Curtis Martin on templates at
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html and tried to print
it out.

However, the right side of the document does not print completely
because, apparently, the lines are too long.  Every line is cut off
by about 40-50 characters.  I'm printing from Netscape 4.75 and my
print setup has my right and left margins set at 0.25, the smallest I can
for my HP 4P printer.

I don't normally have problems printing from web pages.

Any suggestions as to how I can print this document and get all the
lines printed completely?

Thanks.


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Re[2]: Setup options

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Saturday, October 28, 2000, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

> Instead of leaving the templates completely blank, use
> the following:

> ---Reply Template---
> On %ODate, %FROMNAME wrote:

> %Quotes

> %Cursor
> ---End Reply template---

I copied and pasted the macro into the Reply template just as you
wrote it, but every time, it copies my name (the new From name--see
above) instead of the original sender's name.

What am I doing wrong?


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Re[2]: Drop-down To: list

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Regarding:

>> It would be much handier if this drop-down list could be tied to the
>> address book or to a list a pre-selected recipients from the address
>> book.

> In your address book(s), make your most frequent correspondents
> "favourites."  Then when you're composing a message, you can right
> click on the To:, CC: or BCC: fields and see a list of your
> favourites.

Thanks very much for pointing this out. I was completely unaware of
its existence.

Mike

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Drop-down To: list

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

The drop-down list in the To: box seems only to remember the most
recent To: recipients.  If I don't write to someone for a week or
two and have written to many others in the meantime, those whom I'd
like to have in there are deleted.

It would be much handier if this drop-down list could be tied to the
address book or to a list a pre-selected recipients from the address
book.  That way, it would remember the addresses of the people I write
to most frequently, rather than most recently.

Just a thought.


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Re[2]: Send Again

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Thanks very much.  Sounds like a fairly easy workaround.

Mike


>> Is there a way I haven't discovered yet in TB to edit an old message
>> and then resend it?

> Go to the message that you want to resend, copy it to your
> outbox, go there and edit the message to your heart's
> content, and send it. Voilà!



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Send Again

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Often if I want to send a new message to someone I've written to
previously, rather than use the address book, I find an old message to
them and use their address from that.

In Eudora, there was a Send Again function which allowed one to edit
the previous message so that one could change the content.

In TB, there is a Re-Send under the Message menu, but it automatically
does what it says (imagine that!) and just resends the message without
allowing me to change it.

Is there a way I haven't discovered yet in TB to edit an old message
and then resend it?


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Re[2]: Clean up formatting?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

> All you need to do is selct the offending paragraph and
> press alt-L: it will reformat.

Is there also a way to get a whole email to reformat without losing
the paragraphs?

I tried selecting the whole email text, but that causes all the
paragraphs to run together.  I'd like to keep the paragraph structure
but format within the paragraphs without having to do each one
separately.

Thanks.


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Re[2]: Dispat Mail on the Server

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

MSG>> There is an icon on the left side of my screen which says Dispatch
MSG>> Mail on the Server when I pass my cursor over it.

MSG>> What does this mean?

> The mail dispatch will connect to your mail server and allow you to view
> your mail and manipulate them, without downloading them. You may even
> examine the headers of each message on the server. You may select to
> delete, receive, view or do a combination of these to each message.

Oh!

Thanks very much for the explanation.

Now that you've told me, I understand the meaning of the phrase
"Dispatch Mail on the Server", but I couldn't find it in the
Help file, and it made no sense until you told me what it meant.

It reminds me of the exchange between Alice and Humpty Dumpty in
"Through the Looking-Glass":

--SKIP the following if you're in a hurry.--

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone,
"it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean
different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master --
that's all."

Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty
Dumpty began again.

"They've a temper, some of them -- particularly verbs, they're the
proudest -- adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs --
however, I can manage the whole lot! Impenetrability! That's what I
say!"

"Would you tell me, please," said Alice, "what that means?"

"Now you talk like a reasonable child," said Humpty Dumpty, looking
very much pleased. "I meant by "impenetrability' that we've had enough
of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what
you meant to do next, as I suppose you don't intend to stop here all
the rest of your life."

"That's a great deal to make one word mean," Alice said in a
thoughtful tone.

"When I make a word do a lot of work like that," said Humpty Dumpty,
"I always pay it extra."

"Oh!" said Alice. She was too much puzzled to make any other remark.
--

I hope the writer of the program paid "Dispatch" extra.

Thanks again for your help.


Mike



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Dispat Mail on the Server

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

There is an icon on the left side of my screen which says Dispatch
Mail on the Server when I pass my cursor over it.

What does this mean? Does it mean get mail from the server? Delete
mail from the server? Send mail to the server?  Something else?

I checked in the Help file but there is no item for Dispatch.

Thanks.


Mike



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Re[2]: Default Email Problem Solved

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Ming-Li:

Your suggestion was absolutely on the mark.  Eudora does make itself
the default mailer--even if one doesn't check for mail.

I closed TB and reopened it with no message about the default email
program.

I then closed TB, opened Eudora--did nothing in it, closed it again,
and reopened TB.  The default email message appeared!

I went into Eudora's settings and told it to let me know if it was not
the default email program.  Now, when I open Eudora, IT asks me the
question instead of TB, and I can reply no, keeping TB as my default
and not getting the message in TB.

Thanks very much for your suggestion.


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Re[2]: Default Email

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

> On Friday, October 13, 2000, 8:15:00 AM, Michael wrote:

>> Each morning when I boot up and begin TB, I get a message telling
>> me that TB is not my default email server and asking me if I want
>> to make it so.  I dutifully click yes, but each time I restart TB,
>> the message is there.

> Do you also run other email programs? Many email programs would
> check and make themselves the default emailer, and some do that
> silently.

I do have Eudora on my computer, but I've set all the accounts so that
they do not get mail. I don't even open it up very often except to
copy something from it to TB. Could just opening Eudora, without
getting mail, cause it to re-set itself as the default mail program?

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Default Email

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Each morning when I boot up and begin TB, I get a message telling me
that TB is not my default email server and asking me if I want to make
it so.  I dutifully click yes, but each time I restart TB, the message
is there.

I know I can get the message to disappear by clicking the little box
saying do not make this check in the future, but I'd like to know that
TB is my default program for creating emails before I do.

I have not yet registered the program.  Is that the reason for this
message?  I do get another message telling me how long I have to go.

Or this there another way to make this little box disappear?

Thanks.

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Re[2]: I have a question

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

MSG>> I had problems downloading the nsproto.exe file but found one
MSG>> eventually at a different site (don't remember where).

> Please can you tell me what problems you had?

I couldn't get to the site the night that I needed it.  Netscape kept
trying and trying, and then I'd get an error message which I didn't
note down.

I went to the TB archives and found another site which had it and
downloaded that one.

I tried from the FAQ site again this morning, after getting your
email, and had no problem reaching the site.


Mike



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Netscape Send Page setting

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

This is my second request on this one.  Perhaps no one has an answer
for it.

I've set TB to be my default mailer in Netscape 4.75 and that works
fine.

On the File menu in Netscape, there appears Send Page. It is a means
of sending the URL of a page one is currently viewing to someone else
in an email message. When I click on this, TB does not come up. A
Netscape mail form comes up instead. This is annoying since I can't
get to my address book from the Netscape mail form.

Any ideas as to whether or not I can make a TB mail form come up
instead of a Netscape form?

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TO and FROM Order?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Is there a way to change the order of TO and From on a new message?

I would prefer to see the person to whom I am sending the message come
first and my information come second?

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Re: I have a question

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I'm a new user also, and I just had the same problem.  There are
instructions at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/howdoi.html

I had problems downloading the nsproto.exe file but found one
eventually at a different site (don't remember where).

Frankly, items steps 3 to 7 make no sense until you actually execute
the file at which time the directions in the program setup will
clarify those steps.

Good luck.

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> I'm using The Bat V1.46d.  I set it up to be the default for mailto
> URLs but it still doesn't work.  If I click on a "mailto" URL in
> Netscape, the default Netscape mail composer comes up.  Does anyone
> know how to change this so that The Bat is my default mail composer?



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Netscape for mailto

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I have been able to configure Netscape 4.75 to use TB for a mailto
when I encounter one on a web page or in an email.

Is there also a way for Netscape to use TB when I use the Send Page
command from the File menu in Netscape?  As of now, it still brings up
a Netscape mail form with the URL in the message area of the form.

Thanks.


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C/MIME

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Thanks, again, for the help.

I was able to find the Groups feature and use it with no problem so
far.

Regarding:

> This is not a registry or any other problem, but the TRCA lists are
> *vital* and fundamental to the S/MIME support in TB. "CA" means
> Certification Authority and these addresses are used to authenticate
> S/MIME keys and signatures.

I know don't know what TRCA lists are (I was so dumb I thought CA
meant California) and have no idea what S/MIME is. I assume it has
nothing to do with Marcel Marceau. I've run into the term "mime"
before in computerese, but I've never heard a definition of it.

S/MIME is not in the Help Index. I looked at the FAQ on S/MIME but it
assumes one already knows what S/MIME is and only discusses getting a
certificate. More basic questions like what the certificate is, by
whom it is issued, and for what purpose are never addressed. Is there
another place I can go to find out what S/MIME is, what it does, how
it works, and why I might want it?

And what is LDAP which I keep running into?  Being occasionally
dyslexic, I thought Los Angeles Police Department, but that's LAPD!
That term also is not in the Help Index nor on the FAQ at all.

We're talking real basic here--as you can tell.


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Address Book Questions

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I've been using TB only for three days now, so I have lots of
questions. I hope I'm not getting to be too much of a nuisance.

Two questions for now regarding the Address Book:

One:

When I opened the address book the first time, it had a lot of address
books of things I had no use for, so I deleted them all except the
main one which I renamed to Personal Address Book (can't remember what
it was originally).

However, when I close TB and reopen it, two of those address books,
Trusted Root CA and Intermediate CA, keep coming back. I have no idea
what these are or why they're there. But I can tell from their
properties where they are located. Is there any reason not to get rid
of these by deleting them from their directories?  And will this keep
them from coming back--or is that a Registry problem?

Two:

Is it possible to make sub-directories under what I now call
Personal Address Book--such as Family, Friends, Business or is it
better to make each of these categories a separate Address Book?


My initial impression of The Bat! is that it is a great program with
really poor documentation and help files. Were it not for this group
and some information from the online FAQ, I'd have given up on TB on
the first day and simply deleted it! So I'd like to thank everyone who
has taken the time and effort to help me get this program up and
running.


Mike Greenbaum
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Re[2]: Stupid Installation Mistake

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

> It's because Michael's .TXT file association does not have double
> quotes around the parameter, i.e. "%1". Without these the file name is
> split up by any embedded spaces so any attempt to open "C:\The
> Bat!\ReadMe.txt" from explorer will open "C:\The" instead. This can be
> corrected in Exlporer -- Tools -- Folder Options -- File types. It's
> *not* a simple job, but it is easier than delving around in the
> registry.

I can get to the File Types and find my TXT association as you
suggest. Now where does the "%1" parameter get placed so I won't have
that problem in the future?

Thanks very much.

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Re[2]: Stupid Installation Mistake

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

> I forgot to mention in my other message, remember, back up your
> registry before making any changes.

I've never tried to edit the Registry and don't feel comfortable
trying to do it--even backed up.

I tried to delete the whole program through the Windows Add/Remove
Programs which is what TB recommends, but TB is not in the list of
programs.  That's even stranger.

Mike



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Re[2]: Stupid Installation Mistake

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

> I would suggest this: Check each of the folders' properties and
> manually change the directories where TB should look for messages for
> these folders. Only when all references to "The Bat!" in TB's
> configuration (all account information and possibly some registry
> entries) have been changed to "TheBat!" will TB stop looking for
> anything in "The Bat!"

I tried doing this with the Inbox, Outbox, and the other boxes which
TB sets up, but they wouldn't let me change the directory.  Just says
 with the ? and Clear buttons grayed (well, browned) out.  I
can change all the others, though I haven't done it yet.

Mike



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Re[2]: Stupid Installation Mistake

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

> Januk has already replied to your question. However, I find it funny
> that WordPad - a product made by the same company that made the OS
> which recognises such directory names - would say that; how did you
> invoke/open Wordpad and the readme.txt? I have never had a problem
> with my "C:\Program Files\The Bat!\" directory.

Opened it by double-clicking on the file name in Windows Explorer

Mike



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Stupid Installation Mistake

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

When I originally installed TB, I installed it to C:\THE BAT! However,
when I tried to open the readme.txt file, WordPad could not open it
saying that it couldn't find the directory C:\THE

I figured that the problem was the space between THE and BAT!, so I
renamed the file TheBat!  I was then able to open the readme.txt file
with no problem.

In the same session, I received mail and sent mail, created a few
mailboxes, and tried to work with the program.

However, the next time I opened TB, I found that all my mail had
disappeared (there wasn't that much of it so it was no catastrophe). I
checked in Windows Explorer and found that I now had two different
directories C:\THE BAT! and C:\TheBat! I moved all the files from THE
BAT to TheBat, recreated the shortcut on the desktop, deleted THE BAT,
opened TheBat, and everything seemed fine. My mail was back as were
the Quick Templates I'd created.

But when I checked back at Windows Explorer, there were two
directories THE BAT and TheBat.  I deleted THE BAT once more, opened
TheBat, closed it, and checked Windows Explorer.  There were two
directories: THE BAT and TheBat.  Even though I delete THE BAT, it is
recreated when I open TheBat.

So I decided to reinstall the program, being sure to install it to
TheBat.  Everything seemed to go all right, but THE BAT is back!  And
I can't get rid of it.  It is still recreated each time I open TheBat.

I realize my initial error was in changing the name of the directory
at the beginning, but I'd like to get rid of THE BAT permanently. Any
suggestions?

Thanks again.

Mike

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Re[2]: Creation Date in Preview Window

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I never knew that.  Thanks.

Mike

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1

> Messages with today's date show only the time. When midnight has
> passed then the date shows.



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Creation Date in Preview Window

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I've just noticed that for all messages I send, the creation date does
not appear in the preview window at the top right.  All messages I receive have the
creation date showing, but all that I send do not.

The creation date does show on the header of the message itself in the lower window,
if I specify that it show, but it doesn't show in the preview window above.

Is this the way it's supposed to be?

It makes it impossible for me to list all my messages in a mailbox by date, since none 
of my
messages has a date and so all get grouped together.

Mike Greenbaum
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Re[2]: Accounts Question

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I installed the filter on my less-used email address, and it works
fine.  Now I have to check only one box for all my email.  The Inbox,
Outbox, Sent, and Trash folders in the account for the less-used
address are basically not used and everything gets put into folders in
the major account.

Makes things much simpler for me, and I can still reply with the
lesser-used address from the major or dominant mailbox.

Thanks again to all.

Mike Greenbaum
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Post Office Box 40787
Tucson, AZ  85717
Phone:  520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165
  Fax:  815-333-2938
Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover accepted. 
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Accounts Question

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I have just downloaded The Bat and am setting it up for the first
time.

I have two different email addresses I use.  I'd like to be able to
choose between them in the From window, but the only way I can find to
do this is by setting up two accounts for them.  This means two
inboxes which seems kind of clumsy since every time I check my mail, I
must remember to check both inboxes.  Is there a way to have all mail
go to the same inbox?

Meanwhile I have set up two accounts, but when I hit the check mail icon,
it checks only for the account which is highlighted, not for both accounts.
I did finally locate a menu item under Tools which says Check Mail for All,
and I know I can use the Alt-F2 key to do the same thing.  But is
there any way I can change the icon so that it will check mail for
both accounts?

Hope I won't get too annoying with these newbie-type questions, but I
did check the FAQ first and found nothing there.

Thanks.

Mike Greenbaum



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