Re: Colour Groups and Memo limitations

2002-09-08 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, at 13:58:51 [GMT +0200], Miguel A. Urech wrote:

MAU Trying to look for a workaround for this limitation I thought about
MAU using the Memo field. I can use some Keywords or characters to define
MAU different categories and I can include as many of them as I wish in
MAU the Memo. Great! Well, not really. It serves some purpose because I
MAU can certainly Tools-Search the Memo field, but there is no way it can
MAU be tested/set from filters :-(

MAU Has anybody else found this to be a limitation of Colour Groups? Has
MAU anybody found a workaround?

I don't find this to be a limitation of color groups, as only one
color attribute assigned to this class can be displayed at any one
time. I.E. it is meaningless to try to show the header information in
both blue and yellow at the same time. It seems to me that what you
really want is to be able to filter on multiple keyword attributes in
the Memo (or some other) field. This seems like a good idea to me

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Re: fortune cookies

2002-09-06 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, at 10:54:37 [GMT -0700], Martin Naskovski wrote:

MN Hi all, I'm wondering if there's some script (which I really am a bit
MN short on time at work here to write) that someone has written that
MN could take the UNIX % delimited fortune lines(cookies) and transform
MN them into cookies that are acceptable to TB! ?  If anyone knows about
MN such a script, could you forward it to me or point me in the direction
MN where it lives?

This is something I wrote while playing with JAVA.

package sigcopy;
import java.io.*;
import java.util.*;

/**
 * Title:SigCopy
 * Description:  Copy from a multi-line style to a one-line style .sig file.
 * Copyright:Copyright (c) 2002
 * Company:
 * author Michael A. Yetto
 * version 1.0
 */

public class SigCopy {

  public static void main(String[] args) {
try {
  String dirS = D:\\The Bat!\\MAIL\\account\\;
  String singleFile = single line filename;
  String dirML = D:\\Tools\\KookieJar6\\taglines\\;
  String mlFile = multi-line filename;
  boolean EOF = false;

  File fileIn = new File(dirML, mlFile);
  File fileOut = new File(dirS,singleFile);
  MLSigIn sigIn = new MLSigIn(fileIn);
  SingleSigOut sigOut = new SingleSigOut(fileOut);

  while (!EOF) {
try {
  sigOut.write(sigIn.readLine());
}
catch(EOFException e) {
  EOF = true;
  break;
}
catch(NullPointerException np) {
  EOF = true;
  break;
}
  }

sigOut.close();
sigIn.close();
}
catch(FileNotFoundException e) {
  System.err.println(e);
  return;
}
catch(IOException e) {
  System.err.println(Error reading input file + e );
  return;
}
  }
}

Part 2

package sigcopy;
import java.io.*;
import java.util.*;

public class SingleSigOut {
  static BufferedWriter sSig;
  static String sep = \\n;

  public SingleSigOut(File f) throws IOException {
  sSig = new BufferedWriter(new FileWriter(f));
  }

  public SingleSigOut(File f, String s) throws IOException {
  sSig = new BufferedWriter(new FileWriter(f));
  sep = s;
  }

  public static void write(Vector v) throws IOException {
String s = new String();
s = ((String) v.elementAt(0));
for (int j=1;jv.size()-1;j++) {
  s = s + sep;
  s = s + ((String) v.elementAt(j));
 }
sSig.write(s);
sSig.newLine();
sSig.flush();
  }

  public static void close() throws IOException {
sSig.flush();
sSig.close();
  }
}

And finally

package sigcopy;
import java.io.*;
import java.util.*;

public class MLSigIn {
  static BufferedReader mlSig;
  static String sep = %;

  public MLSigIn(File f) throws IOException {
  mlSig = new BufferedReader(new FileReader(f));
  }

  public MLSigIn(File f, String s) throws IOException {
  mlSig = new BufferedReader(new FileReader(f));
  sep = s;
  }

  public static Vector readLine() throws IOException {
String st = new String();
Vector v = new Vector();
while (! st.equals(sep)) {
  st=mlSig.readLine();
  v.addElement(st);
}
v.trimToSize();
return v;
  }

  public static void close() throws IOException {
mlSig.close();
  }
}

I will probably tweak this when I'm so inclined, but for now enter
the appropriate paths and filenames to convert a multi-line file
delimited with %, to a single line file with a \n line separator.

Mike Yetto

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Re: No TBUDL mail for 24 hours.... ?

2002-09-04 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, at 13:36:19 [GMT +1200], Carren Stuart wrote:

CS Is it just me? I have had no list mail for almost 24 hours now.
CS Absolutely nothing, which is highly unusual to say the least.
CS Is it a list problem or is it something floopy with Myrealbox ...
CS anyone know?

CS Thanks! :-)



The MyRealBox site will tell you that since that server is used to
develop the software used it will be, by definition, floopy.

Mike Yetto

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Re: Send-Display Discrepancy (WAS: Trasnfering/synching with outlook)

2002-09-02 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, at 20:41:06 [GMT +0100], Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

MDP Rats! foiled and hoist by my own petard (whatever a petard is).

- From Miriam-Webster online:
1 : a case containing an explosive to break down a door or gate or breach a wall

To be hoist by your own petard is to blow yourself up.

Mike Yetto

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Re: Running TB as an NT/ XP service

2002-08-30 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, at 18:49:54 [GMT +0100], Paul Gleave wrote:

PG Has anyone worked out a way to do this? I've tried using a utility
PG called apptoservice which seems to work OK, but when I log out, TB
PG closes itself down, and this stops the service - whereas the reason
PG that I want TB to run as a service is so that it will continue running
PG after I have logged out.

PG Any thoughts appreciated.

My first thought is that interactive programs are not designed to run
unattended as a service. Apptoservice works quite well for command
line seti@home, but I wouldn't use it for Excel, for example.  Why do
you think it's a good idea to run TB! unattached to a user session?

Mike Yetto

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Re: Running TB as an NT/ XP service

2002-08-30 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, at 21:14:01 [GMT -0400], Tim Musson wrote:

MY Why do you think it's a good idea to run TB! unattached to a user
MY session?

TM I can think of one off hand...  I would like to have my computer start
TM and start checking mail.  However, I don't want to have to have it log
TM in (yes, I know I can use TweekUI to do this, and then have a Screen
TM Saver with password kick in, but it would be better to not have to.)

You are explaining why you want to check your mail at all times.  I'm
asking why you think a standard interactive desktop application is a
good candidate for conversion to a service.

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Re: Wildcard filtering

2002-08-25 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, at 18:13:35 [GMT +0100], Richard Lane wrote:

RL I'm trying to set up a filter that will filter anythingTheSameDomain.com
RL into a single folder but without much luck. putting a wildcard star before
RL the  doesn't work as I thought it would.


TB can use regular expressions, so any wildcard strings should be
formatted as such.  However, for this simple test you only need to use
TheSameDomain.com for the string.  You don't have to match the
entire header field as this is a contains condition not equals.

I've always liked solutions and enhancements where I can stop doing
something to make it work.

Mike Yetto

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Re: TUTORIAL

2002-08-03 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 12:15:44 [GMT -0300], KoMpLoT wrote:

K alright,
K Thanks to all of you for helping me with TB!

Wow, bottom posted with TB! I wish the people I support at work were
so responsive.  We may have a new expert here soon.

and thank YOU,
Mike Yetto

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Re: SORTING THE MAILS

2002-08-03 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 23:13:23 [GMT -0400], ETM wrote:

E Ahh.  Then that really is the problem.  Different
E countries, different views or top and bottom posting.

E Okay, I will stop posting here and continue to read (skipping the
E colorized portions of the replies laughter).

No the problem is that with top posted threads it is very difficult to
enter into a discussion that has already started.  One must go to the
bottom and scroll up to the start of the last section to read it, then
scroll up to the section before that, then the one before that.  The
parts of the message are ordered backwards from the top.  In addition,
top posting clients such as Lookout Distress ignore the --  sig
delimiter convention and leave way too much extraneous text in the
e-mail or USENet post.

We are not speaking of national styles, but common sense and
experience with this form of communication.

In short, top posting and over quoting are as much an abomination as
HTML or rich text formatting in a plain text medium.

Mike Yetto

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Re: SORTING THE MAILS

2002-08-03 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 22:56:27 [GMT -0300], KoMpLoT wrote:

K Hi! Jonathan,
KI don't know, I still prefeer using this way, because I always read
Kthe first part to know what's on the e-mail...

This was a straight reply to your e-mail.  As you can see, everything
below your top posted signature delimiter was removed by The Bat!
This is one of the reasons to bottom post or post in context.  Another
reason, is the conventions on the group.  The most powerful argument
for doing it this way is; that's the way the moderators said to do it.

Mike Yetto

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Re: TUTORIAL

2002-08-02 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 00:25:21 [GMT -0300], KoMpLoT wrote:

K thanks, and yes, I do have TB! installed, it's just that I want to change OE
K but the problem is that there are many things that I can't figure out how to
K configure in TB!
K anyway thanks

Top posting is another Outlook Express habit you should break, as well
as leaving everything ever sent to the thread in each reply.  Please
learn to snip extraneous text.  There are several examples of macros
available in the FAQ for stripping signatures, formatting greetings,
cleaning subject lines, etc.  My suggestion is that you visit the FAQ
pages and then use The Bat! for e-mail to this list.  We'll be able to
help you refine your setup.

Mike Yetto

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Re: External Browser????

2001-03-20 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, at 20:59:39 [GMT +], Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

MDP Can anyone back else me up on what's going on with this installation?
MDP Any other NetScape users able to confirm/deny the use of .wct? Perhaps
MDP something else has installed that extension and formed an incorrect
MDP association.

For this machine .wct is for VisualBasic.WCTFile rather than either IE
or Netscape.

- From the Visual Studio CD:

"WCT file
A modified copy of an HTML file that the system saves after you add an
HTML template file to a webclass. The WCT file is saved in the project
directory for the IIS application and acts as the source file for the
webitem."


Shouldn't the filename be in the message somewhere?  If so, the
problem is with the sender's system.

    Mike Yetto

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Re: Is there a way to make a Read Messages filter work with all folders?

2001-03-14 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, at 17:20:40 [GMT -0500], Leo Zelevinsky wrote:

LZ Thus my question - is there a way to have a Read filter which will act
LZ on messages in all folders - as opposed to what it looks like I'd have
LZ to do now - which is to make a Read filter for every folder that mail
LZ gets filtered into.

The rules in TB! are tightly linked to specific folders. A "read"
filter would have to be created for each folder where you want that
function. You can, at least, copy a filter/rule and edit it for a
second, third etc. folder.

I think that more than just you and I would like to see filters that
pertain to all folders and can target the mail to the current folder.
By that I mean the message can start in any folder, be acted on, and
remain where it is.

    Mike Yetto

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Re: Mailto Changed with Upgrades

2001-03-12 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, at 21:28:54 [GMT -0700], Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

MSG I reinstalled nsproto.exe and all seems to be fine.

MSG However, to help me in the future, which of these upgrades would have
MSG been responsible for the change in my mailto setup: TB or Netscape or
MSG both?

I haven't touched my nsproto settings for a while since I won't go
to NS 5.  I have upgraded TB! since last setting nsproto and I still
get TB! from a mailto: link with NS.  So, that would indicate that an
upgrade of NS should trigger a reprocessing of the nsproto settings.

Mike Yetto

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Re: Auto PGP sig. verification?

2001-03-08 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, at 21:29:09 [GMT -0800], Nick Andriash wrote:

NA That feature actually exists in PGP's Options, and would be something the
NA PGP Plugin is responsible for. RITLabs is hopefully working on the newest
NA PGP/GPG Plugin, but the only Mail Client that I know this feature works
NA beautifully on, is Oultook 98/2000.

PMMail has always behaved this way, both in the OS/2 and Windows
versions a message is shown in the status bar at the bottom of the
window.

Mike Yetto

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Re: reply Capitalize

2001-03-03 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, at 09:40:45 [GMT -0500], Gerry Doyon wrote:

GD I think that it was a CAPITAL idea!! Sorry, couldn't resist the pun!

I think a _case_ can be made that it was justified.

Mike "my resistance is low, too" Yetto

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Re: Signatures

2001-03-03 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, at 16:35:31 [GMT +0100], Andreas Schwartmann wrote:

AS A while ago, while still using Eudora (shame on me ...) I purchased a
AS small application called "E-Sig", which randomly created signature
AS files and attached them to my outgoing mail. That was fun, because I
AS collected a pool of about 100 taglines, quotes, never knowing which
AS one would be used on a particular outgoing mail.

AS Now I understand that "The Bat" does not work with signature files
AS that might get attached but uses templates.

The Bat! will allow you to do this in two different ways. The first
way gives you a set of tag lines (referred to as "cookies") for each
account. From the main screen menu bar choose Account/Properties then
Templates/Cookies. Either "Add from File" or paste into the right-hand
window. Each tag should be on a single, separate line and the %COOKIE
macro will pull a random line from this list.

The other method is to have a separate file for each set of tags,
again with each tag on a single, separate line.  You can control line
breaks by adding '\n' where it is needed.  The way to use this is to
give the %COOKIE macro a parameter as in this example.

%COOKIE="d:\The Bat!\Mail\Mike\Acquisition sig.txt"

The line above will pull a random line from my list of the Ferengi
Rules of Acquisition and replace the macro with that text.


Mike Yetto

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Re: Lurking learning.

2001-02-25 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, at 06:27:26 [GMT -0500], Ronald J Clark wrote:

RJC  My sole purpose for this post is just to thank the moderators and
RJC  many list members who have provided me with so much usable
RJC  information, as to make many of my questions unnecessary to post. I
RJC  look forward to the day that I am competent enough using TheBat! to
RJC  contribute and possibly help another list member. I have much to
RJC  learn.


I sounds like you've already mastered the first step necessary to
enter the exciting world of online product support, you know how to
look for the answers.  As Nick and Allie pointed out, the next step is
to jump in with "Oo! Oo! I know that one..."  There are many here who
will tweak your advice should that ever become necessary.

As a note to other lurkers, you aren't causing any undo strain on the
system by using answers to other peoples' questions, so go ahead and
take all the answers you want.  We'll make more.

    Mike Yetto

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Re: Moderators: Point of Order

2001-02-17 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, at 12:48:17 [GMT +0800], Thomas wrote:

MY I suggested that the moderators do this in order to prevent just such
MY a multiple spawning.

T I'm with Karin here, because the moderators do sleep sometimes
T (usually when I'm up in my time zone - "right now" is a good example -
T and what am I to do? Wait six horus before I reply?

Actually, so am I, as the sentence that you didn't quote implied.  I
did want to give them the opportunity to offer a different solution or
take control of this one.  It would be better if the members handled
this while keeping the split thread issue in mind.

    Mike Yetto

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Re: TB! v1.49 - mysterious deletions

2001-02-17 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, at 22:30:19 [GMT +0800], Thomas wrote:

T Hallo Mike,

T On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 09:05:42 -0500 GMT (17/02/2001, 22:05 +0800 GMT),
T Mike Yetto wrote:

MY With TB! closed use windows explorer to find \The
MY Bat!\MAIL\account\folder (with the proper values for account and
MY folder.)  There you will find two files called "messages.tbb" and
MY "messages.tbi" with the .tbi file being the index.  If you delete this
MY index and reopen TB! it will recreate the index from the message file.

T Right, but be aware that all flags will be lost. This includes the
T "read" flag, so all messages will appear to be new.

Remember, boys and girls, before following any unpaid advice wait for
a comment or two. My solution appears to be appropriate after trying
and failing with others.

Mike Yetto

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Re: Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, at 15:54:44 [GMT +0100], Jannik Lindquist wrote:

JL You are quite right, but I thought that it would be easier to export
JL from OL to OE and then to TB - than to export to a CSV-format and
JL fiddle with fields :-)

When I exported from PMMail to TB! I created an entry in the PMMail
address book with the name of the field as the data in the field.
After exporting to a CSV-format I moved this entry to the top of the
file.  TB!'s import function then suggested the correct mapping for
each corresponding field.

As another thought, can't you export the Outlook contacts a vCards and
then import them to TB!?

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Re: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, at 15:16:06 [GMT -0800], Peter Chiou wrote:

PC   And you're right, it is because I often am a jerk that I need Jesus,
PC   as you said.


I'm more inclined to go with "confused Outlook Express user" than
jerk. The Bat! will allow you to bottom post and, more importantly[1],
trim the quotes by selecting a block and hitting F4. Lookout and
Lookout Distress allow neither action.

    Mike Yetto
[1] Yes, this is debatable and I'm inclined to take both sides.
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Moderators: Point of Order

2001-02-16 Thread Mike Yetto

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The Bat! listers,

Jan just sent a reminder about blank subjects and that
prompted me to ask this question.  Please note that I didn't reply to
the other thread.

However, many people do reply to the last message they read
rather than creating a new thread and my question concerns the proper
way to handle this.  Should the moderators immediately start a new
thread before it gets buried in something many of us may already be
skipping?  Is this even possible?  Does anyone have something else for
the moderators to think about this weekend?

Mike "just trying to be helpful" Yetto

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Re: Moderators: Point of Order

2001-02-16 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, at 02:34:18 [GMT +0100], Karin Spaink wrote:

KS I'd suggest that whoever answers to such a message, takes
KS the effort to turn their reply into a new message, thereby
KS achieving the goal: the ensuing thread will be pulled out of
KS the old, existing one, and will be clearly visible to all.

KS While I do realise that in this way we suddenly might see
KS two new threads emerge, or perhaps even three, when more
KS people answer and create new threads, I don't think it's
KS fair for us to sit and wait until the moderators do
KS something.


I suggested that the moderators do this in order to prevent just such
a multiple spawning.  But you are right, they shouldn't carry all of
the burdens, only the final word.

Mike Yetto

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Re: Another reason to avoid Outlook

2001-02-13 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, at 09:51:01 [GMT -0500], Gerry Doyon wrote:

GD So, does my boss think this is suspicious? Nope!  What does he try to
GD do?  He runs up the Visual Basic for Applications from Microsoft
GD Office 97 and trys to EXECUTE the script to see what it does
GD Aaarrgh!  I am TRYING to educate him.  Sigh.

Why don't you sign him up as the goalie on your company bowling team?

Mike Yetto

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Re: My pgp filter seems to be back to normal!

2001-02-12 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, at 09:36:35 [GMT -0800], Nick Andriash wrote:

NA So you are saying that you checked his message and the signature verified
NA as "Good"? If so, then I don't understand why it shows "Bad" on my
NA machine, and can think no reason what, why or where the message itself
NA would have been tampered with.

NA Are you *sure* you get a "Good" signature on his first message in this
NA thread? Anyone else getting a good signature?

I just checked all of the messages I have for Krister (key 0x8313390B)
and they all verify as good.

Mike "just a data point, no theory" Yetto

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Re: My pgp filter seems to be back to normal!

2001-02-12 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, at 19:19:28 [GMT +0100], Gerd Ewald wrote:

GE Nick, the funny thing is that I get a GOOD signature when I use TB-plugin
GE and a BAD when I use PGPTray. The key was downloaded by PGP; ID: 0x8313390B
GE Fingerprint:D554 FB2E 50A7 AB9B 7CC1  18BC 3839 497A 8313 390B


And here's another data point.  This same thing happens to me with
6.5.8 .


*** PGP Signature Status: bad
*** Signer: Krister Ekstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Invalid)
*** Signed: 2/12/2001 4:10:12 AM
*** Verified: 2/12/2001 6:28:12 PM
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Re: My pgp filter seems to be back to normal!

2001-02-12 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, at 18:18:43 [GMT -0800], Nick Andriash wrote:

NA Ok, now we have to figure out why you are getting differing results with
NA PGPTray, and why just Krister's messages. There has to be a common
NA denominator there somewhere.

NA Mike, do you have both versions of PGP installed somehow, or are you
NA experimenting with 2 boxes?

I only have one version of PGP and I run it on two machines. Using
ctl-shift-c with The Bat! gave me a 'good' for Krister's e-mails and
then I thought I'd try to duplicate Gerd's results.  On both machines
TB! gave me a 'good' result and PGP Tray a 'bad' one.

I'm using a patched version of the TB! plug-in on this machine and the
non-patched version on the other one.  If there's something to be seen
in the data I have provided it's hiding from me.

Mike Yetto

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Re: Cannot access RIT Labs Web site

2001-02-12 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, at 21:11:21 [GMT -0500], Mark Knipfer wrote:

MK I cannot access the RIT Labs web site:

MK http://www.ritlabs.com

MK http://198.78.172.135

MK by Host Name and IP address.

MK Is anyone else experiencing a problem?

I can't get to the web site and ping filed to ritlabs.com and the IP
address.  In addition a reverse DNS using Sam Spade came up with 'no
such dns entry'.

This is from the Albany, New York area for what that's worth.

Mike Yetto

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Re: My pgp filter seems to be back to normal!

2001-02-12 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, at 18:18:43 [GMT -0800], Nick Andriash wrote:

NA Ok, now we have to figure out why you are getting differing results with
NA PGPTray, and why just Krister's messages. There has to be a common
NA denominator there somewhere.


Ah ha!  I saved Krister's message as a text file and it verified as
'good' with PGPTray.  I think the problem is with this line.

Obtain my pgp keys by sending a mail to this address: 
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Which shows as two lines in the original message view window, but as
one line when I viewed it with a text editor. I have Auto-Wrap set
which would cause the view of the message to be different for PGPTray
than what the plug-in is using. With Auto-Wrap off I PGPTray will
verify the signiture as 'good'.  We can now get some sleep tonight.

I'd be hard-pressed to say that either program is doing something wrong.

Mike Yetto

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Re: TB! v1.49 - finding an errant filter

2001-02-11 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, at 08:58:13 [GMT -0500], Jan Rifkinson wrote:

JR   I color coded these 3  have been following their progress. At the
JR   same time I cleaned out some of the individual specific filters I
JR   had set up when I first got TB!.

JR   So far so good.

JR   Now if one of my friends' emails lands in the SPAM folder, if it's
JR   *not* a color, I can backtrack from there using your approach. So I
JR   thank you (both) for your suggestions.


This is an excellent synthesis of the two methods.  Use the color
technique to narrow the search (as many times as needed) and then go
for the kill with the sequential technique.

The final method might be a good addition to the FAQ, or a tips folder
somewhere.

Mike Yetto

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Re: TB! v1.49 - finding an errant filter

2001-02-10 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 10 Feb 2001, at 14:48:44 [GMT -0500], Jan Rifkinson wrote:

JR   I have encountered a vexing problem. I have a slew of SPAM filters
JR   ending with the more gen'l kinds. More often than I should, I am
JR   finding email from friends  colleagues ending up in the SPAM folder
JR   , for the life of me, I can't figure out why. I wish there was a
JR   search function for filter content.

JR   Can anyone suggest a logical way to approach this tedious problem?

1) Mark the subject e-mails as unread and return them to the inbox.

2) Activate the filters one at a time and re-filter until an e-mail
is caught.

3) Optionally, deactivate each filter as it is verified and return the
e-mail(s) to the inbox to find the next filter that will catch the same
e-mail(s).

Mike Yetto

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Re: TB! v1.49 - finding an errant filter

2001-02-10 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 10 Feb 2001, at 13:18:45 [GMT -0800], Nick Andriash wrote:

NA Or use the Group colours to differentiate one Spam Filter from another,
NA and then check the colour of the E-Mail from your friends.

Sure, anyone can do it the easy way.  However, if color groups are
part of your filters you might have to use the more thorough method.

Mike Yetto
(Here's an extra 'u' for anyone who thinks 'color' is misspelled.)
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Re: Spell check query

2001-02-07 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, at 13:13:17 [GMT +], Chris Wilson wrote:

CW I often mistype a capital I as a lower case i as in:
CW "Sorry i was unable to come to the phone". Is there a way of making the
CW spell checker automatically pick up this typo as it does other spelling
CW mistakes that it underlines in red?

I came close to solving this one. I tried to add "i" to the dictionary
manually selecting Spell Checker/Dictionaries and then setting the Action to
"Change automatically" with "I" as the other word. This worked for
"Ii" to "I", but not for "i" to "I". There may be a minimum size of
two letters for the spell checker to recognize a word. This automatic
change happens after hitting F4.


Mike Yetto

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Re: PGP Set up

2001-02-05 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, at 15:33:50 [GMT -0500], Scott Wright wrote:

SW I am new to PGP and new to The Bat!
SW I have two separate email accounts - when generating my PGP Key Ring I
SW was  asked  for  my  email address, does this mean I need separate Key
SW rings for each email acct, if so Does The Bat! maintain separate files
SW for each account?

No, you use one key ring for everything. You don't need a second key
either, just add the second address to the key you already have.

Mike Yetto

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Re: Attachments Deleted When Message Deleted?

2001-02-01 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, at 07:00:44 [GMT -0800], Nick Andriash wrote:

NA I save my attachments in a separate directory, and yes, I do have the
NA option checked for deleting attachments when messages are emptied from
NA Trash. I am sure it worked for me before... just now noticed that the
NA attachments remained in C:\Temp. shrug

If the attachment was a Word or Excel document wouldn't that
application store a copy in your %TEMP% folder before opening it?  In
that case, it is out of TB!'s control and knowledge.

Mike Yetto

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Re: Attachments Deleted When Message Deleted?

2001-02-01 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, at 16:42:30 [GMT -0800], Nick Andriash wrote:

DG I think Mike's point is that if you open an MS Office document that was an
DG attachment, the Office app is going to put a copy of that document in the temp
DG directory.  TB! can't control what the Office app does with the file.

NA Oh, I see. Ok, I just didn't realize we had gone off topic there. I was
NA referring to attachments that we get in E-Mail, and what TB! does with
NA them when received, and why they are not deleted when the message they
NA were attached to, are put in the Trash Bin and then emptied.

NA Sorry Mike...

No problem. Dave did pick up on what I meant. I've seen the same thing
happen when I open attachments at work using Outlook and Word.  You
may (or may not) be seeing the same phenomenon.


Mike Yetto

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Re: Move msg to another Account?

2001-01-31 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, at 20:59:22 [GMT +0100], Wolfgang Kynast wrote:

WK Sorry for my weak english: I wanted to qualify *my* question
WK as dumb. It was a translation from german, word by word, which
WK gives obviously another meaning in english.

The problem is not that your expression has another meaning in
English, it's that you used a German idiomatic expression that was
somewhat ambiguous when translated. I picked up on your intended
meaning without a second thought, but since there is no standard
interpretation for this expression, multiple meanings are possible.

Since so many list members aren't native English speakers, we
shouldn't be overly sensitive to grammar errors, misspellings or
mangled idioms.


Mike "and that includes my spelling, too, please" Yetto

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Re: TB! v1.49 - vanishing email addys

2001-01-30 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, at 11:05:17 [GMT -0500], Jan Rifkinson wrote:

JR   Like most of you I have a default "My AB". All adds go to this AB.
JR   However, I also have a number of groups. I noticed today (actually
JR   yesterday) that the email addresses in all my groups remain intact
JR   while the email addresses for those names remaining in "My AB" no
JR   longer exist.


There is a check box under the general tab for each group that is
labeled "Hide items if not explicitly selected" which really means "Do
you want to view the names in this group only when viewing this group,
or in the AB root as well?"

The existing wording is confusing, but it fits better than mine does.
Uncheck this option and the entries will appear in the AB root.

Mike Yetto

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Re: PGP 6.5.8 and The Bat! integration

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, at 09:45:56 [GMT -0700], Satori wrote:

S * I have downloaded the PGP dll's for The Bat and have copied
S batpgp65.dll into the "c:\Program Files\The Bat!" directory. (I have
S also tried the "c:\winnt\system32" directory since I was not sure.)

I have the batpgp*.dll files in my PGP directory, and that works.

Mike Yetto

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Re: PGP 6.5.8 and The Bat! integration

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, at 19:30:22 [GMT  -0800], George F Schoelles wrote:

MY I have the batpgp*.dll files in my PGP directory, and that works.

GFS That's fine for 2 through 6.x because they are in the path.  However
GFS this is not so in 7.x and above.


Since the original question dealt with 6.5.8 my answer to Satori
stands. Try moving batpgp65.dll to your PGP directory.

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Re: The Bat! - suggestions - skip and later

2001-01-21 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, at 17:06:42 [GMT -0800], Abigail Marshall wrote:

AM In a very OLD version of Netscape mail - probably Netscape 3, - it was
AM possible to configure the mail program to not download messages over a
AM certain user-specified size. For example, if the user specified that
AM messages over 100k would not be downloaded, then the messages would
AM only be partially downloaded, along with a message saying that the
AM remainder had been left on the server, and Netscape 3 would skip ahead
AM to the next message. Then you could go back later to retrieve the
AM balance of the partially downloaded message.

Do you mean "Account/Properties/Mail management/Receive header only if
message size is greater than"? Set the spinner next to that prompt to
the maximum size that doesn't need your attention. I can't say how
well this works, as I have a broadband connection and don't use this
feature. This isn't a substitute for a clean skip or cancel of the
transfer where the already downloaded messages are handled properly on
the server, but it should help some and is already here.

    Mike Yetto

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Re: Like Notepad with word-wrap...

2001-01-20 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, at 11:29:25 [GMT -0800], George F Schoelles wrote:

GFS This is a knee jerk work around. How about giving the user the
GFS option to use hard returns or not.

Standards are not knee-jerk reactions.  If you insist on sending
unformatted e-mails, don't be upset with the complaints you get from
recipients.  The Bat! is an e-mail client, not a DTP utility.  The
function it performs is that of conveying textual information in an
efficient and straight-forward manner.  Unformatted lines, Rich Text,
HTML, XML etc. do not enhance that function.

However, if you insist on long lines that will, no doubt, cause readers to use the 
horizontal scroll bar, or view the message in an uncontrolled, and most likely, 
unwanted manner, then by all means turn off "Utilities/Auto-Wrap" (Shift-Ctrl-W).

Should the demonstration in the previous paragraph actually work, my
apologies to everyone else.

Mike "try this at home, but not here" Yetto
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Re: Like Notepad with word-wrap...

2001-01-20 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, at 12:12:21 [GMT -0800], George F Schoelles wrote:

MY However, if you insist on long lines that will, no doubt, cause readers to use the
MY horizontal scroll bar, or view the message in an uncontrolled, and most likely,
MY unwanted manner, then by all means turn off "Utilities/Auto-Wrap" (Shift-Ctrl-W).

MY Should the demonstration in the previous paragraph actually work, my
MY apologies to everyone else.

GFS You where demonstrating just what?

Not everyone would see the top paragraph, attributed to me above, in
the same way. If you turn off auto-wrap before you open my message you
will see only one line. If auto-wrap is on, that line will be wrapped
to the current window size at the time the message is opened. If you
resize the window, close it and then open the message again, you will
see the line split differently. This behavior doesn't reflect anyone's
preferences, but does demonstrate a complete lack of control over the
formatting of the message.

By showing the author a message wrapped to his window and not his
"wrap-before-send" settings, there is a possibility that no two
parties will ever see the message wrapped in the same manner. Haven't
you ever read a message that was mailed to you or posted to USENet
with Outlook Express using out of the box defaults?

Being able to switch the formatting from during-the-edit to
prior-to-send may be simple, or it may require a second complete edit
module. In either case, I, for one, don't think it is worth the
effort. I'd like to go on record as stating that such an option would
not enhance The Bat!.

Mike Yetto

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Re: Like Notepad with word-wrap...

2001-01-20 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, at 13:09:59 [GMT -0800], Nick Andriash wrote:

MY Should the demonstration in the previous paragraph actually work, my
MY apologies to everyone else.

NA It works Mike because TB!'s Editor is truly WYSIWYG. :o)

The beauty of this demonstration is that it won't work the same way
for everyone. Did you see only one, excessively long line? That is
what I saw before I sent it. I turned auto-wrap back on before I
opened the message as it was returned to me in the list traffic, and,
lo and behold, it did not look like what I sent.

Mike Yetto
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Re: Like Notepad with word-wrap...

2001-01-20 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, at 14:45:30 [GMT -0800], George F Schoelles wrote:

GFS Of course it would not be an enhancement for you, but it would be
GFS for others.  BTW, WYSIWYG is not a big deal in a text editor.
GFS WYSIWIG became a neat thing with True type and DTP and is virtually
GFS meaningless in this discussion.

For the purposes of this discussion WYSIWIG has become synonymous with
formatted text, although it is more than that. Nor is it dependent on
True Type, Type 1 or DTP. You seem to be the only one participating in
this thread who wants to change the practice of formatting the text
while it is still visible. While this is not a standard, wrapping text
at a reasonable value (65 columns, I think) is part of RFC-822. Doing
it while the author can still see the results not only makes sense,
but pays respect to that author.

I realize that you do not want wrapped text and would rather no one
else used it either.  The way to reconcile your practice with my
dislike of formatting that interferes with communication is for me to
disregard the rest of this thread along with any future poorly
formatted messages that appear on this list.

Mike Yetto

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Re: BLOCK SENDER

2001-01-19 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, at 19:08:33 [GMT +0100], Dierk Haasis wrote:

DH  I hope he's just a kid learning the Force of TB!. But he behaves like
DH  a Troll laying bait ...

I will assume "lack of clue" for the time being.  That malady can be
cured more easily in most patients.

    Mike Yetto

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Re: Disabling special characters in signal strings?

2001-01-19 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, at 08:43:58 [GMT -0800], Bubba wrote:

B Is there any way to disable the brackets (i.e., the characters [ and ]
B ) in signal strings so that they are treated as ordinary characters?

B Most of my mailing lists send mail whose subject contains the name of
B the list surrounded by brackets (e.g., [mailing list] ). I would like
B to use the brackets as an ordinary character in my signal strings
B because the "mailing list" name by itself is not always sufficient.

Rather than use a straight signal string, set the filter to use regex
for the string and use "\[mailing list\]" without the quotes.

Mike Yetto

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Re: BLOCK SENDER

2001-01-18 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, at 17:03:11 [GMT -0600], Mark Brown wrote:

MB OK third time is the charm

MB BLOCK  SENDER  that's what i need block sender with ONE thats one EASY
MB CLICK OK?

MB do  and  let  me  know  i  will dance on your grave or at your wedding
MB whatever.


MB i'll send you a bottle of wine or some cheese just do it!

You sent this same request three times in 10 minutes.  You should
know that such a request can take upwards of 37 minutes.

Besides, notifying the developers (Help;Feedback;Suggestions) should
prove more efficacious than notifying other users, even the ones who
like the "block sender" idea.

    Mike Yetto

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Re: Strange (was Re[2]: Account configuration file)

2001-01-14 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, at 22:27:47 [GMT +0100], SyP wrote:

S According to what Kenneth Porter wrote on 8/10/2000, 8:57 PM:

S The sequence "CRLFCRLFFrom" is used to denote the beginning of
S a message. If this sequence occurs in the middle of a message,
S sendmail is obligated to "quote" the "From" to prevent it from being
S recognized as a message delimiter.

S A MUA may or may not compensate for this. It seems TB isn't.

What I have to add will change this theory.  I received the original
message with no quote mark preceding the "From".  The "From" started in
column one immediately following a blank line.  That is
"CRLFCRLFFrom" remained just that.

Mike Yetto

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Re: Strange (was Re[2]: Account configuration file)

2001-01-14 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, at 22:48:06 [GMT +], Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

MDP Hi Mike,

MDP On 14 January 2001 at 16:45:02 -0500 (which was 21:45 where I
MDP live) Mike Yetto wrote and made these points:

MY What I have to add will change this theory.

MDP It  doesn't.  *Some* servers add it. Mine didn't. Neither did yours.
MDP David's did.


I must have been reading "outgoing" server for no discernible reason.

Mike "never mind" Yetto

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Re: vCard

2001-01-07 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, at 13:06:15 [GMT -0600], Slava Levin wrote:

SL On my laptop - vCard is attaching but I can't change information about
SL myself there. I mean after changing data in address book
SL attached vCard still shows *old* info.

With the proper account selected click on Account/Properties. You
should see a button labeled "Edit personal vCard" which will lead you
to the vCard that will be attached.  This isn't in the address book.
It is a file named ACCOUNT.VCF found in the account folder.


Mike Yetto
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Re: Question re File Structure

2001-01-03 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, at 22:28:22 [GMT -], Austin Dennis wrote:

AD My question is - had I accepted the defaults, what would I have ended up
AD with? I'm guessing it's something like this:

AD Program Files
AD  The Bat!
AD   Mail
ADAccount 1
AD Inbox etc.
AD Attach
ADAccount 2
AD Inbox etc.
AD Attach
AD   Speller

AD Is that correct?

In a word, yes.


Mike Yetto
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Re: Saving a TB! installation to CD

2000-12-30 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, at 21:43:17 [GMT -0500], Tim Musson wrote:

TM Hey Tim,

TM Tuesday, December 26, 2000, 4:16:49 PM, you wrote:

TM Hey Chris,

TM Tuesday, December 26, 2000, 3:10:56 PM, you wrote:


CW I have a very workable TB! installation but am considering re loading
CW the OS in an early Spring Clean operation. How can i save it to CD for
CW future reloading? In particular what do I need to save and what about
CW file attributes when writing a CD? I will be using Nero 5 to write any
CW backups.

CW Thanks.

TM I am planing the same - NT4 to W2k reinstall before Jan. so asked
TM [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TM In v148f:
TMTools
TM Backup
TM Restore
TM Syncronise...

TM I have not found any documentation, but I did a BU of one of my
TM accounts, then restored it to another computer with TBv148f and got
TM everything I checked for (mail, and settings...).  Nice!, but I wish
TM there were some docs about what is backed up, etc...

TM [EMAIL PROTECTED]


TM Well, Everything worked splendidly for the backup and restore (under
TM Tools) using TB v1.48f.  Only one problem...  None of my filters/rules
TM are to be found!  What is up with that?...

TM [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In your \Mail\account name\ folder you should find several files
named ACCOUNT.* with extensions of CFG, FLX, LOG etc.  These should be
backed up/restored as well.  I think the SRX contains the filters and
QTN has the Quick Templates.

I could be wrong about what is in which file, but I'd include them in
any transfer.


Mike Yetto
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Re: Now that I finally can delete attachments without fear....

2000-12-30 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, at 15:04:26 [GMT +], Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

MDP Well, what I do in such cases is:

MDP 1) Ask the person politely to send to me mail in plain text only.
MDP 2) Remind them of the request when they fail to cooperate and explain
MDPthat, with nearly 1gb of mail, if all mails were 3 to 4 times the
MDPsize because I allowed people to send HTML mail I would be overrun.
MDP 3) If that person still ignored my requests, I would instate a filter
MDPwhich auto-replied to any HTML messages from this individual using
MDPa template like this:
MDP  

MDP This is an automated response.
MDP I do not like HTML mail.
MDP Please stop sending it

MDP You said this much:
MDP %QUOTES

MDP I got this much
MDP %QUOTES
MDP %QUOTES

MDP Please stop burdening me with this extraneous data.
MDP  


MDP ... but then again, I'm a bad-tempered old so-and-so and people expect
MDP it of me :-).

MDP A happy new year to you.


You call *that* bad tempered?  There were no 9-mm rounds or Ninja
assassins involved.


Mike Yetto
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Re: Recommended Templates/RegExp?

2000-12-29 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, at 13:20:07 [GMT -0500], David Calvarese wrote:

DC I'm not really new to TB!, but I'm new to working with it's
DC template's and RegExps.  I was wondering if anyone out there would
DC be so kind as to provide me with some of the more
DC common/recommended ones that are in use about the mailing list.
DC Especially ones for dealing with mailing lists and/or PGP.

These aren't among the "common or recommended" templates, but I think
they could save some time.  These Quick Templates are what I use to
respond to spam and junk e-mail.  Just skip this somewhat lengthy
message unless you think you'll find these of interest.

I use this first one to report USENet spam by copying the entire
articel *including headers* to the clipboard.  If there is a header
line for X-Complaints-To I will use that address.

=== Spam Quick Template ===
This Spam was found on usenet.  It would be a Good Thing if you
dealt with the Spammer in a prompt manner.

== begin forwarded spam ==

%CLIPBOARD

==  end forwarded spam  ==

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%SUBJECT="Net Abuse Report: %setpattregexp=""(?m-s)^\Subject: 
(.*)$""%RegExpBlindMatch=""%CLIPBOARD""%SubPatt=""1"""
%CLEAR

=== end QT ===

This one is for Unsolicited Commercial E-mail and is similar to the
above.  It doesn't require the clipboard and makes use of the original
subject rather than searching the header.

=== UCE Quick Template
This Unsolicited Commercial E-mail was sent to my account.  It
would be a Good Thing if you dealt with the Spammer in a prompt
manner.

== begin forwarded spam ==
%HEADERS

%TEXT
==  end forwarded spam  ==

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%SUBJECT="Net Abuse Report: %QINCLUDE=""CleanSubj"""
%CLEAR
=== end QT ===

The "CleanSubj" template is from the support/FAQ pages found through
The Bat! site.

And finally, here is the signature template.  The "Latin" is from a
Monty Python page and translates roughly to "No *ssh*l*s allowed".

This may, of course, be easily changed or eliminated.

=== DeRecta Quick Template ===
%FROMNAME

De Recta Non Tolerandum Sunt
=== end QT ===


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Re: The Bat! - bug report

2000-11-19 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, at 19:24:21 [GMT +0100], Tobias Wrede wrote:

TW This bug has been existing for several versions already.

TW IIRC it only happens if there are no unread messages in the
folder
TW and the currently displayed message is last in the list. That
TW message and the new messages are then highlited/selected in the
TW message list

This isn't what I have observed.  The position in the list of the
currently displayed message does not matter and I think (but can't be
sure) that it happens only when a message is received into the
current
folder. It does *not* happen to me when I am displaying all messages,
but it does when I display only unread messages in the message list.

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Re: please help out a lamer

2000-11-19 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, at 12:44:02 [GMT -0700], Ben Pugsley wrote:

KS The easy way is of course to simply *install* TB on your new
KS machine. It will automatically create the correct registry
KS entries.


BP Right. but I have several accounts, and MANY MANY saved messages
that I want
BP to have in the new system.

No problem.  Copy all of the folders under \Mail to the new machine
and when you set up a new account specify the folder that already
exists for that account.

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The Bat! - bug report

2000-11-17 Thread Mike Yetto

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Hello The Bat! developers,

  I'm using The Bat! Version 1.47 Halloween Edition
  Serial Number 6F049C6A
  under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6
  and would like to report a bug

  The bug description:
If a message is received while reading a prior message the one
being read is cleared.

  Steps to reproduce the bug:
Open a message with message list visible, view only unread and
thread by reference.  While reading the message wait for another to
arrive and you will be reading a blank screen.


Regards,
  Mike Yetto

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Re: Editing received messages

2000-11-16 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, at 23:27:15 [GMT +], Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

MDP BTW:  I  still  believe  that  am correct about it being intrinsically
MDP "wrong"  to edit received messages for filing. I also accept that I am
MDP probably in the minority in holding that position :-).

I completely agree that editing received messages leaves them tainted
and untrustworthy.  I would like to request that this never be done to
TB.

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