Re: Settigs for MyGate in TB!
Hi Miguel, you wrote: >>> Can someone remind me of the POP and SMTP settings I have to key into TB!? >> >> In addition to the server (127.0.0.1) you have to enter the ports to >> be used for POP and SMTP in both TheBat!'s account settings and in >> MyGate. AFAIR that is all. M> M> Also, if you are using 64-bit TB, you cannot start MyGate from within M> TB. Yo have to start it either manually or at windows start. Right. I have a little batch file doing this for me: @echo off start "" "thebat64.exe" start "" "MyGate\mygate.exe" exit -- Cheers Peter Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Settigs for MyGate in TB!
Hello Thomas, you wrote: > Due to excessive playing, my setting in TheBat! for the MyGate > newsreader are gone. I remember that host was 127.0.0.1 but not the otehr > settings. > Can someone remind me of the POP and SMTP settings I have to key into TB!? In addition to the server (127.0.0.1) you have to enter the ports to be used for POP and SMTP in both TheBat!'s account settings and in MyGate. AFAIR that is all. -- Cheers Peter Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager install
Hello Gunivortus, on Fri, 27 Aug 2021 13:13:38 +0200GMT (27.08.2021, 13:13 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:816107479.20210827131...@boudicca.de : > Is there a short and easy way to get in Voyager the accounts > and settings I have in TB at my desktop? Yes. In TB! on your desktop go to Menu - Tools and create a backup of the account(s) and settings you want to use with Voyager. In the new installation select "Restore" and point to the .tbk file you created before. -- Cheers Peter ' Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sending e-mail to a group with only group name appearing in recipient's "to" field
Hi, on Fri, 12 Feb 2021 05:51:54 -0600GMT (12.02.2021, 12:51 +0100GMT here), Avram Sacks wrote: > [how to hide addresses of multiple recipients] I'm sure there is a way how The Bat! can handle this more elegantly, but here is a solution that works with any client: put your own address in the TO: field and all other recipients into BCC. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Pro Version 8.8.2 (64-bit) on Windows 10, 0, build 19041 Intel Core i3-8100 CPU at 3.6 GHz, 8.00 GB RAM Several POP accounts, no IMAP, a couple of news groups via MyGate OTFE enabled" Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash when using "Open reply" on sent e-mail
Hi Gunivortus, on Tue, 1 Sep 2020 12:31:27 +0200GMT (01.09.2020, 12:31 +0200GMT here), you wrote: GG> ... just curious ... >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- ^^ GG> Why can I read your PGP encoded message, although, AFAIK, GG> no PGP is installed here that could decode it. The message is not encrypted, merely signed. Without PGP installed you won't be able to verify the signature though. -- Cheers Peter Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Easy way to switch from Voyager to The Bat
Hi Luca, on Thu, 09 Jul 2020 15:52:32 +0200GMT (09.07.2020, 15:52 +0200GMT here), you wrote: LvT> Is there an easy way to switch from Voyager with OTFE to The Bat, mantaining LvT> all the message base, options and configuration? In Voyager create a complete backup (Menu -> Tools -> Backup). Install The Bat! and restore the backup. -- Cheers Peter Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Create a filter that deletes...
Hi, on Sat, 6 Jun 2020 10:24:14 -0700GMT (06.06.2020, 19:24 +0200GMT here), Susanne wrote: S> I'm looking to create a filter that will delete messages from certain S> email addresses if they are older than 3 days. S> This works fine, if I create the filter for just one email address at S> a time, but not if I make a list of several addresses. S> I've tried "contains any of" and "matches any of" with no success. Create an address book group containing only the selected addresses. Then set your filter to "Address groups... [handle]... contain sender. -- Cheers Peter Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate NNTP gateway for TheBat not working any more
Hi, on Tue, 6 Aug 2019 08:32:07 +0700GMT (06.08.2019, 03:32 +0200GMT here), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF> ... TF> Are you running avast! anti-virus? Yes, I did. The disclaimer in my mail reminded me that I wanted to get rid of it, since Windows Defender does a good job by now. So now I uninstalled it. And yes, I had to exclude MyGate from being checked and blocked by Avast before. -- Cheers Peter Things working well, no problems. Time to upgrade. Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate NNTP gateway for TheBat not working any more
Hi Thomas, on Mon, 5 Aug 2019 18:28:04 +0700GMT (05.08.2019, 13:28 +0200GMT here), you wrote: TF> I've been reading newgroups with TheBat using MyGate for years. Since TF> yesterday or the day before, it doesn't work any more. MyGate won't TF> start, and that's on two machines under Win10. TF> Is it me, or was there a Windows update which "improved" its TF> behaviour? MyGate has been and still is running fine here under Win10 with the most recent updates. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Pro Version 8.8.2 (64-bit) on Windows 10, 0, build 17763, Intel Core i3-8100 CPU at 3.6 GHz, 8.00 GB RAM, 64 Bit Several POP accounts, no IMAP, a couple of news groups via MyGate OTFE enabled --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one?
Hi Gunivortus, on Fri, 7 Apr 2017 10:13:02 +0200GMT (07.04.2017, 10:13 +0200GMT here), you wrote: G> ... G> Can I now encrypt any message or only those to people who also use G> PGP? Only the latter. G> Do I have to contact them all first to ask that? Yes, unless there is another way to obtain their public keys. You'll encrypt with their public keys, and then they can decrypt with their private keys. -- Cheers Peter Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with S P A M
Hi Jack, on Mon, 15 Feb 2016 17:32:47 -0600GMT (16.02.2016, 00:32 +0100GMT here), you wrote: JSL> If it comes to it I'll just reinstall K9 as I seldom receive large emails. For large emails you can set a limit in account properties -> Mail Management by checking "Receive headers only if message size is greater than XX kB". -- Cheers Peter Aibohphobia - Fear of palindromes Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "New version available" dialog box
Hi Geoff, on Sun, 6 Sep 2015 08:34:14 +0100GMT (06.09.2015, 09:34 +0200GMT here), you wrote: GL> Is there a registry hack or other way to stop this dialog box GL> appearing whenever I open TB? Options - Preferences - Other Options - [ ]Check for updates when The Bat! starts -- Cheers Peter Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "New version available" dialog box
Hi Geoff, on Sun, 6 Sep 2015 08:34:14 +0100GMT (06.09.2015, 09:34 +0100GMT here), Geoff Lane wrote: GL> Is there a registry hack or other way to stop this dialog box GL> appearing whenever I open TB? Sorry, forgot one step: Options - Preferences - Other Options - Confirmations - [ ]Check for updates when The Bat! starts -- Cheers Peter Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises. Samuel Butler (1612-1680) Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GMX mailboxes not working in TB 6.4.0.2?
Hi, on Sun, 27 Apr 2014 22:15:44 +0100GMT (27.04.2014, 23:15 +0200GMT here), Robert Bull wrote: RB I just today updated to TB 6.4.0.2 (registered), since when my GMX RB mailboxes have stopped working. I presume this is a TB problem RB because I can still access them with nPOPuk, and everything was RB working before. Has anyone else seen this? Extract of one log file: RB ... RB 27/04/2014, 22:09:40: FETCH - Connecting to POP3 server pop.gmx.com on port 995 RB 27/04/2014, 22:09:40: FETCH - Initiating TLS handshake RB !27/04/2014, 22:10:01: FETCH - TLS handshake failure. Connect failed I don't think it is a problem of the new version of The Bat!. It works fine with gmx.net. There may be a problem with the certificate of gmx.com. Here is my log: ,- [ ] | 28.04.2014, 12:52:36: FETCH - receiving mail messages | 28.04.2014, 12:52:36: FETCH - Connecting to POP3 server pop.gmx.net on port 995 | 28.04.2014, 12:52:41: FETCH - Initiating TLS handshake | 28.04.2014, 12:52:42: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 035AA860, algorithm: RSA (2048 bits), issued from 11/12/2013 10:19:29 AM to 11/17/2016 11:59:59 PM, for 2 host(s): pop.gmx.net, pop.gmx.de. | 28.04.2014, 12:52:42: FETCH - Owner: DE, 11 Mail Media GmbH, Rhineland-Palatinate, Montabaur, server-ce...@1und1.de, pop.gmx.net. | 28.04.2014, 12:52:42: FETCH - Root: generated by avast! antivirus for SSL scanning, avast! Mail Scanner, avast! Mail Scanner Root | 28.04.2014, 12:52:42: FETCH - TLS handshake complete | 28.04.2014, 12:52:42: FETCH - connected to POP3 server | 28.04.2014, 12:52:42: FETCH - authenticated (plain) | 28.04.2014, 12:52:42: FETCH - 174 messages in the mailbox, 3 new `- -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Pro v6.4.0.2 on Windows 7 Ultimate, SP1, 6, 1, build 7601, Pentium DualCore at 3.2 GHz, 4096 MB RAM, 32 Bit Life is a yo-yo, and mankind ties knots in the string. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Secure E-mail again!
Hi, on Wed, 5 Feb 2014 21:19:15 +GMT (05.02.2014, 22:19 +0100GMT here), Tony Brookes wrote: TB I remember seeing some posts about using SSL as German providers TB were changing things. I've looked in the archive and only seen two messages... TB I am using 1and1 in the UK but they are German so have advised I TB will have to switch to secure mail using SSL. I have followed the TB instructions but it still won't authenticate SMTP even though I am TB using the Port specified of 587, not the default (see screenshot). They may have specified port 587 for SSL, but for TLS the port should be 465 as The Bat! automatically selects. This works fine with German 1und1, and it has done so for years, so I suggest you try that port too. -- Cheers Peter Sex is like air. It's not important unless you aren't getting any. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stopping E-Mail Before it gets sent
Hi Chasonek, on Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:05:48 -0800GMT (05.01.2014, 22:05 +0100GMT here), you wrote: C I had the need to stop an e-mail before it finished getting C sent, so I could correct a couple of items, before it was sent, C but can not find a way to stop an e-mail that I just clicked C 'Send'... C Is there a way to do this? or do I have to be more carful when I C click send? You cannot stop the sending after it is started. In order to avoid inadvertent sending you can select Confirm immediate sending in Account properties - Options. -- Cheers Peter Smash forehead on keyboard to continue. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
Hi, on Wed, 18 Dec 2013 00:01:31 +GMT (18.12.2013, 01:01 +0100GMT here), Robert Bull wrote: RB Two of my e-mail addresses are with Yahoo! UK, which allows POP3 RB access. Until recently YUK has used plain transport and everything RB worked fine, but recently they changed to requiring SSL. RB ... Some providers, like German Telekom and obviously Yahoo UK, have decided to use the old (you can also call it obsolete) SSL 3.0 encryption standard in order to increase security. Ritlabs - grinding their teeth - have agreed to implement it in the upcoming release version of The Bat! which is supposed to be available this week. -- Cheers Peter Cannot open file c:\Programme\The Bat!\Cookies\tbcookies.txt Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
Hi, on Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:30:55 +0100GMT I wrote: PM ... PM Some providers, like German Telekom and obviously Yahoo UK, have PM decided to use the old (you can also call it obsolete) SSL 3.0 PM encryption standard in order to increase security. Ritlabs - PM grinding their teeth - have agreed to implement it in the upcoming PM release version of The Bat! which is supposed to be available this PM week. I overlooked that it is already released: ,- [ mid:1392884492.20131218005...@ritlabs.com ] | http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_6-1-0-2.msi | http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_6-1-0-2.msi | http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_6-1-0-2.msi | http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_6-1-0-2.msi `- -- Cheers Peter Originality is the art of concealing your sources. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Splash Screen
Hi all, on Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:36:46 +0100GMT I wrote: PM can anybody tell me where The Bat! stores the splash screen that shows PM on startup? PM A long time ago I added the screen of v3 to The Bat!'s directory as PM splash.png on my PC because I liked it better than the new one. Now PM I decided to want the new one of Christmas edition, but I cannot get PM it. Removing/renaming splash.png results in no splash screen at all, PM even after a new installation from the MSI-file. I have the same PM version installed on my notebook where the Christmas splash screen is PM shown. I didn't succeed in extracting the screen from the EXE, but - just in case that anyone is interested - I found the solution to my problem: In The Bat!'s directory I found a file batlogo.xml, written by Miroslav Florensen about five years ago, which directs splash.png to the splash screen. I had inserted it, because I liked the idea to have my own splash screen. Then I forgot about it. So my problem was completely home-made. :) -- Cheers Peter Tagline for the night: while( !asleep() ) sheep++; Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AV-warning about batHEX.tmp
Hi, on Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:28:45 +0100GMT (15.02.2010, 22:28 +0100GMT here), Jernej Simončič wrote: JS On Monday, February 15, 2010, 22:15:38, Peter Meyns wrote: I don't really worry about this, as Avira blocks it anyway, I'm just curious. Is this The Bat!'s problem or Avira's? JS Alvira's - TB downloads the messages to a temporary folder first, but JS your AV intercepts it there. I found the culprit via the mail dispatcher. As it was on an account that I don't use for PayPal, it was most certainly a PayPal spoofing scam - the headers looked accordingly - that was intercepted by Avira and therefore not downloaded. So The Bat! tried again and again to download the message with the aforementioned results. Now I deleted it from the server and I'm sure the alerts will stop - until the next spoof arrives. Thank you Jernej and MFPA for your help. -- Cheers Peter 'There are two major products that come out of Berkeley; LSD and BSD Unix. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.' Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AV-warning about batHEX.tmp
Hi all, since a couple of weeks I keep getting warnings from Avira about C:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Temp\batHEX.tmp, where HEX is a hexadecimal number from one to three digits. According to Avira it contains signs of an HTML/Spoofing.Gen. It only occurs, when The Bat! downloads messages, but it doesn't always occur when downloading messages. Any ideas? I don't really worry about this, as Avira blocks it anyway, I'm just curious. Is this The Bat!'s problem or Avira's? -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Pro v4.2.23 on WinXP, SP3, 5, 1, build 2600, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 1024 MB RAM Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: DLL AVV in (kav.bav)
Hi, on Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:41:12 -0200GMT (21.01.2010, 16:41 +0100GMT here), Cesar Santos wrote: CS [The Bat! and Kaspersky AV - changes of settings do not stick] CS Just making me mad! I don't know Kaspersky AV in particular, but the thought came to my mind, that it might be necessary to make the changes related to an AV program with admin privileges to make them stick. Did you try that? -- Cheers Peter Pepsi Brings You Back to Life was translated into Chinese as Pepsi Brings Your Ancestors Back from the Grave. Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Splash Screen
Hi all, can anybody tell me where The Bat! stores the splash screen that shows on startup? A long time ago I added the screen of v3 to The Bat!'s directory as splash.png on my PC because I liked it better than the new one. Now I decided to want the new one of Christmas edition, but I cannot get it. Removing/renaming splash.png results in no splash screen at all, even after a new installation from the MSI-file. I have the same version installed on my notebook where the Christmas splash screen is shown. -- TIA Peter The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition on WinXP, SP3, 5, 1, build 2600, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 1024 MB RAM Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hi, on Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:53:57 +GMT (30.12.2009, 15:53 +0100GMT here), MFPA wrote: M On Tuesday 29 December 2009 at 5:53:52 PM, in M mid:75203816.20091229185...@nosuchdomain.com, Peter Meyns wrote: Of course The Bat! makes changes to your computer. For some settings it even uses the registry. M It's a pity there is no option to store most of the settings in an M .ini file instead of the registry. Yes indeed. It is possible in Voyager, why not in The Bat!? -- Cheers Peter THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH! Aaa..er..if it's okay with you... Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hi, on Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:15:48 -0800 (PST)GMT (30.12.2009, 16:15 +0100GMT here), Sam Brown wrote: M It's a pity there is no option to store most of the settings in an M .ini file instead of the registry. Yes indeed. It is possible in Voyager, why not in The Bat!? SB So that people will buy Voyager? :p I don't think so. The license for Voyager is included in The Bat! Pro. I think the reasons for using the registry are historical. The programmers obviously spend a lot of energy on improving TB!'s IMAP support, which for quite some users is very important. (I still use POP, but I'm not representative. ;) ) I can understand that they don't want to meddle with long established, well working parts, that only few people wish to be changed. -- Cheers Peter There's no place like 127.0.0.1. :) Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hi Cesar, on Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:42:01 -0200GMT (29.12.2009, 18:42 +0100GMT here), you wrote: CS Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 2:59:49 PM, you wrote: Who threw the exception (or was it a warning?): Kaspersky or Windows/UAC? I'm already interested in seeing the exact wording along with your answer. CS UAC CS I've got a prompt saying something like this (I will try to reproduce CS it in English because the version I am running is in Portuguese) CS Do you wish to permit the following program to make changes in this CS computer? Of course The Bat! makes changes to your computer. For some settings it even uses the registry. I would permit this, so TB! can work its way. -- Cheers Peter Insanity is hereditary. You get it from your kids. Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Windows 7 UAC
Hi Cesar, on Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:03:13 -0200GMT (29.12.2009, 19:03 +0100GMT here), you wrote: CS Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 3:53:52 PM, you wrote: Of course The Bat! makes changes to your computer. For some settings it even uses the registry. I would permit this, so TB! can work its way. CS ... That's the problem. I give my permission every time TB! CS starts. I wish to find out a way to give it only once ... Of course. I thought there was some selection offered like allow only this time and allow permanently. But then, I haven't laid my fingers on Windows 7 as yet. I'll stick to XP as long as it does what I need. :) CS However, if I lower the warnings level from UAC (no warning, lowest CS level), nothing bothers me anymore. CS I should probably do that because as I read before from friends at CS TBUDL, UAC wouldn't help so much with security issues. If UAC is as useless as Danger said, turn it off. You certainly have other security equipment installed anyway. -- Cheers Peter Smash forehead on keyboard to continue. Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: www.pcwize.com/thebat/
Hi Volker, on Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:56:54 +0100GMT (18.12.2009, 17:56 +0100GMT here), you wrote: VA I tried to upload my roguemoticon, but it failed: VA extract VA Warning: VA move_uploaded_file(/sambar/docs/pcwize/thebat/smileys/rogues/Volker_Ahrendt.jpg) VA [function.move-uploaded-file]: failed to open stream: No such file or VA directory in C:\Apache2\htdocs\pcwize\thebat\account.php on line 141 VA Warning: move_uploaded_file() [function.move-uploaded-file]: Unable VA to move 'C:\WINDOWS\Temp\php802.tmp' to VA '/sambar/docs/pcwize/thebat/smileys/rogues/Volker_Ahrendt.jpg' in VA C:\Apache2\htdocs\pcwize\thebat\account.php on line 141 VA Hello Volker, VA Your account details have been updated. VA /extract Same error here. My new picture isn't added. -- Cheers Peter Announcement: A seminar on Time Travel will be held two weeks ago. Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: open attachments
Hi Christian, on Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:31:04 +0100GMT (08.11.2009, 15:31 +0100GMT here), you wrote: CB If I open a jpg-attachment it is opened with a TB-inside viewer. Why? CB How can I configure this behaviour? I want to open the jpg with the CB insystem assoctiated jpg-viewer (IrfanView). Options -- Preferences -- Applications: [X] Use external viewer to open attached images -- Cheers Peter Early to rise and early to bed, makes a man healthy but socially dead. Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Environement variables and templates
Hi Simon, on Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:30:36 +0100GMT (20.10.2009, 18:30 +0200GMT here), you wrote: S ... environment variables in message templates? ... S %INCLUDE=%EMAIL%\templates\family\family.tricia.new.message.txt S It doesn't work so that is what I am asking if there is a way. I don't know if there is a way to use environment variables in templates, but I see why your try doesn't work. In TB!'s templates the percent sign indicates a following macro. You might try %% instead. This should prevent TB! from seeing the following as a macro. If it recognizes the EV, I don't know. -- Cheers Peter Reality is nothing but a collective hunch. Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Updating
Hi Robert, on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:42:00 +0300GMT (27.08.2009, 13:42 +0200GMT here), you wrote: RG Is there an official location where I could download the latest RG version of thebat.exe file to do the update instead of downloading and RG installing the full *.msi package? I don't know about such a location, but you can extract thebat.exe from the MSI. -- Cheers Peter I'm not rude, I'm attitudinally challenged. Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why won't the developers add an option for allowing a single carriage return for MicroEd? (with auto-format enabled)
Hi MFPA, on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:09:37 +0100GMT (27.08.2009, 21:09 +0200GMT here), you wrote: M Or you could remove the tick from Free caret positioning at M Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Editor preferences | M MicroEd-specific options. (-; This is a good one for April fools! :D -- Cheers Peter Never trust a stock broker who is married to a travel agent. Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Defining PGP key in template
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi Robert, on Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:00:24 +0300GMT (25.08.2009, 19:00 +0200GMT here), you wrote: R ... TB! cannot figure out it should use my default key having the R GSWoT UserID to sign those messages. I tried to write and rewrite R that address, but to no avail. It works fine with all other R UserID's, though. When I put an older email address in the From R field, TB! flawlessly picks up one of my disabled keys to do the R signing. So, I guess, it gets confused by the format of my GSWoT R UserID. I'm glad you brought this one up, Robert. I have been observing this failure here for several years. I have 11 user IDs on my key, but The Bat! will only allow for two to be used. For all others (including this list address) I get the error message you quoted. Since then I use GPGshell when I need GPG with one of those, because at that time no one on TBUDL or TBBeta had an answer. But now that we are three people having encountered this behaviour, we perhaps can find out what causes this. - -- Cheers Peter The only person getting his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) - GPGshell v3.70 Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: http://www.gswot.org iEYEAREDAAYFAkqUH4YACgkQAzZSBuEHdM5mLwCglVNWlqY0PfVp6GdAaoNZV/4U XDwAniXKrhuYS2lAtI+IS0A5nHbvC9h1 =InGt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Defining PGP key in template
Hi Robert, on Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:02:28 +0300GMT (25.08.2009, 15:02 +0200GMT here), you wrote: R In my situation, I have a key with a few UserIDs. And The Bat! R probably only goes by the main UserID, ignoring the others. And I R cannot get around it... :-( Thank you for reminding me of this. I have re-opened the issue from 2005 on BT: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4171 -- Cheers Peter Reality is nothing but a collective hunch. Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please help me understand the Pros and Cons of MicroEd (many, many wrapping issues)
Hi AC, on Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:58:00 -0700GMT (21.08.2009, 08:58 +0200GMT here), you wrote: A ... A Question #5: A Why do we have to use Alt-L to reformat the wrapping if you go back A and edit? All other editors everywhere in the world do this A automatically... This doesn't mean that it is the best way. MicroEd leaves the decision to you if you want to wrap your edited message or keep that extra-long line. I prefer this. :) -- Cheers Peter Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises. Samuel Butler (1612-1680) Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Icon size
Hi Rober, on Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:42:05 +0300GMT (19.08.2009, 13:42 +0200GMT here), you wrote: R I haven't used TheBat! for quite some time. Now, in version 4, I see R these huge icons in the toolbar and cannot find a way to make them R smaller. Is it at all possible or should I rather learn to live with R the big ones? It is possible. Right-click the toolbar and select Customise... - Options - [X]Use menu icons for all toolbars. -- Cheers Peter Announcement: A seminar on Time Travel will be held two weeks ago. Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: using appropriate account to REPLY
Hi Thomas, on Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:38:23 +0700GMT (15.08.2009, 17:38 +0200GMT here), you wrote: TF If you want to see all your incoming mails in one folder (I wouldn't TF know why, but people work differently), I suggest to use a virtual TF folder. Just let it monitor all the Inboxes of the different accounts TF and set the condition to Unread. That's exactly, what I use for a couple of years, and I can confirm, that it works very well. -- Cheers Peter Never trust a stock broker who is married to a travel agent. Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threads expand or collaps
Hi Jens, on Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:35:12 +0200GMT (09.08.2009, 20:35 +0200GMT here), you wrote: JF is there any way to expand or collaps a whole Thread in Thread View? JF Because i always search for the new arrising messages and the Parent JF Mails are marked bold too... ctrl+* should do the trick. -- Cheers Peter Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on. Winston Churchill Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replying to a mailing list, the To name?
Hi Jeremy, on Sun, 2 Aug 2009 08:27:41 -0400GMT (02.08.2009, 14:27 +0200GMT here), you wrote: JC The problem isn't the template, i.e. the above Hello Roelof but JC the actual To: field of the email says To: Roelof Otten JC tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com I would like it to say To: The Bat JC tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Put the following line in your template: %TO=%TO='The Bat %OREPLYADDR'%- -- Cheers Peter Originality is the art of concealing your sources. Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to view an email
Hi Roelof, on Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:40:22 +0200GMT (22.07.2009, 18:40 +0200GMT here), you wrote: RO Hallo Simon, RO On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:04:53 +0100GMT (22-7-2009, 18:04 +0200, where RO I live), you wrote: P No To:, From:, Message-Id:, or Subject: display in TB! either, although P visible when revelaing the headers using CTRL+SHIFT+K. P To get at the invisible base64 encoded contents (viewed source to and P copied it) I modified the email, changed the content type and added P boundaries to get a decoded part.txt. Here is the original email rarred up: RO I opened the provided .eml and I could read the contents just fine, RO even though I couldn't view the headers without resorting to RO F9... What could you read? I opened the EML to see a blank window. F9 gave me about a hundred lines of this: //5EAGUAYQByACAATQByACAAQgBsAGEAawBlAA0ACg...KgAqACoAKgAqACoACgA= hmm -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.2.9 :beta: on WinXP, SP3, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, several news groups via MyGate OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 1024 MB RAM Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Application Not Specified
Hi Jens, on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:23:41 +0100GMT (19.02.2009, 11:23 +0100GMT here), you wrote: JF Donnerstag, 19. Februar 2009 at 11:09, MAU wrote: File type association with the application to open them is done at OS (Windows) level, not in TB. JF Yes, look in the Settings of your Default Browser and in the Settings JF of the Windows Explorer. JF There is a Tool to do this, mybe you could find it with the Keywords JF change file association tool free No need for yet another tool. From the Start menu go to Control Panel - Folder Options - File Types. -- Cheers Peter 'To learn more about paranoids, follow them around!' Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing OTFE
Hi Henk, on Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:38:28 +0100GMT (15.01.2009, 09:38 +0100GMT here), you wrote: HMdB Peter Meyns schreef: MH Hopefully an easy question - I'm currently using OTFE (Bat Pro 4.1.9), MH and I want to revert to non-OTFE. Is it possible? Only by a new installation. Make a complete backup, then uninstall The Bat! and reinstall it without OTFE using the backup. HMdB Hi Peter, HMdB If I remember well there was something about the information in the HMdB registry? Was there? Then save HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT too and restore it after the new installation if necessary. -- Cheers Peter May your doorstep ever be dirty. - Romany blessing Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing OTFE
Hi Mr, on Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:21:14 +1100GMT (15.01.2009, 05:21 +0100GMT here), you wrote: MH Hopefully an easy question - I'm currently using OTFE (Bat Pro 4.1.9), MH and I want to revert to non-OTFE. Is it possible? Only by a new installation. Make a complete backup, then uninstall The Bat! and reinstall it without OTFE using the backup. -- Cheers Peter Those TLAs drive me crazy! Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: macro *** Error: unmatched parentheses ***
Hi Roland, on Fri, 28 Nov 2008 08:31:42 +0100GMT (28.11.2008, 08:31 +0100GMT here), you wrote: RB %qinclude=ZeitEn RB %qinclude=Praefix RB %qinclude=Werbung Then you'd better continue with listing the QTs Praefix and Werbung, RB because the 3 isn't caused by ZeitEn. RB I have now RB %qinclude=Praefix RB %qinclude=Werbung RB %qinclude=ZeitEn but the 3 is further on in my mail! I think Roelof wanted you to show us the contents of Praefix and Werbung, because the fault is not in ZeitEn. -- Cheers Peter Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. T. Jefferson Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hi Tom, on Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:29:21 +1100GMT(16.11.2008, 13:29 +0100GMT here), you wrote: T I am currently using TB Home and am curious about Voyager ... how T could I then make use of it during my travels with a laptop? You install Voyager on a USB-stick for instance. Then you can use it with any Windows computer that allows you to run applications from removable media. -- Cheers Peter The three most dangerous things are a programmer with a soldering iron, a manager who codes, and a user who gets ideas. Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help-Partial message loss!
Hi Jack, on Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:35:01 -0600GMT(15.11.2008, 18:35 +0100GMT here), you wrote: JSL [where is TB!'s mail directory?] You can check and set this in The Bat! under Options - Preferences - System - Mail Directory -- Cheers Peter Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. Frank Zappa Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying filters to another account
Hi Gary, on Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:23:15 -0500GMT(11.11.2008, 18:23 +0100GMT here), you wrote: GL As I recall. I was once able to copy filters from one account to another GL using the Copy_tree function. However, it no longer seems to be available. GL Is there some back door way to do this? No back door. Simply highlight the filter, then copy it with the right-click-menu or ctrl+C and paste it to its destination account. -- Cheers Peter What did God say after creating man? I can do so much better. What did he say after he created woman? Guess I was wrong! (Helen J Bolton) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager: Account/Folder list font
Hi Thomas, on Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:03:07 +0700GMT (16.10.2008, 18:03 +0200GMT here), you wrote: TF Except that the Account/Folder list uses another font. I cannot find TF where to change this. Miguel is right. Options/Preferences/System is the place in Voyager too. -- Cheers Peter Tagline dispenser temporarily out of order. Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tbot-subscribe: question (OT)
Hi Luc, on Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:10:04 -0300GMT (19.09.2008, 03:10 +0100GMT here), you wrote: L Yesterday i sent a request to subscribe to the Tbot list... haven't L heard back ... is it still active? Yahoogroups is slow at times... :( Be patient. -- Cheers Peter This posting is a natural product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
Hi Rick, on Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:23:24 -0400GMT (28.08.2008, 18:23 +0200GMT here), you wrote: R Is there any easy way from within The Bat to cycle through cookies? R Let's say I didn't want the one that was randomly attached to this R email ... R (It's in a file in an address book template) Yes. Highlight the unwanted cookie and type the handle of your cookie template. Hit ctrl+space and you're done. If you don't like the next one you can go back to the handle with ctrl+Z and ctrl+space again. This can be repeated very quickly until the *right* cookie appears. -- Cheers Peter The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho Marx (1890-1977) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
Hi, on Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:42:28 +0200GMT I wrote: PM on Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:23:24 -0400GMT (28.08.2008, 18:23 +0200GMT here), PM you wrote: R Is there any easy way from within The Bat to cycle through cookies? R Let's say I didn't want the one that was randomly attached to this R email ... R (It's in a file in an address book template) I overlooked this sentence. My proposal works with Quick Templates. So make your address book template a quick one and the procedure below will work. PM Yes. Highlight the unwanted cookie and type the handle of your cookie PM template. Hit ctrl+space and you're done. If you don't like the PM next one you can go back to the handle with ctrl+Z and PM ctrl+space again. This can be repeated very quickly until the PM *right* cookie appears. -- Cheers Peter Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises. Samuel Butler (1612-1680) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade question
Hi Chrille, on Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:43:05 +0200GMT (25.08.2008, 18:43 +0200GMT here), you wrote: C Monday, August 25, 2008, 18:21:11, you wrote: C What is, if I may ask, a signature delimiter? It is the dashdashspace that you obviously have in your template at the beginning of your signature. It makes the signature appear in another size and font (if set so) and isn't quoted in a reply. -- Cheers Peter Example is not the main thing in influencing others. It is the only thing. Albert Schweitzer Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade question
Hi Henk, on Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:03:45 +0200GMT (25.08.2008, 19:03 +0200GMT here), you wrote: What is, if I may ask, a signature delimiter? HMdB dash, dash, space, enter HMdB You already are using a sig delimiter ;-) HMdB -- HMdB Henk M. de Bruijn But yours is broken... :( -- Cheers Peter Press any key... no, no, no, NOT THAT ONE! Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug in Automatic Backup
Hi Mr, on Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:37:06 +1000GMT (23.08.2008, 05:37 +0200GMT here), you wrote: MH What I need to know - where is The Bat getting this old E drive path MH from? It's not from the preferences, that is obvious. It can only be MH from the message base that I've had throughout my Bat installations MH surely? And is there a fix for my problem? It's in the registry. In HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! there is a key Last backup path. It should be safe to change the value and restart The Bat!. -- Cheers Peter MOUSE.DRV not found - use RAT.DRV instead? Y/n Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder deletion and restoration
Hi Jon, on Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:41:53 -0500GMT (11.06.2008, 15:41 +0200GMT here), you wrote: JP I have deleted several folder from my message base but chose the JP option to Keep the message base files intact. I want some of these JP back in my folder structure, but cannot find a way to accomplish this. You might try and create a new folder with the old name. Either TB! recognizes the message base after a new start, or you must replace the new folder's TBB and TBI files with the old ones. -- Cheers Peter The notion that this is mostly about sex is nonsense. The vast majority of our customers have little or no interest in it. ~ Steve Case, founder and chairman of AOL Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail tracking
Hi Tom, on Wed, 21 May 2008 22:26:34 +1000GMT (21.05.2008, 14:26 +0200GMT here), you wrote: T I stumbled across this thread at Wilders T http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=1245802#post1245802 T dealing with the issue of some emails having secret coding included to T report back to the sender not only when the email was delivered or T read but even how long the email was open and more. To my knowledge this will only work with HTML mails that load contents from the web. If you stick to plain text or avoid loading content not delivered with the mail, this cannot happen. Please CMIIW. -- Cheers Peter Sixty-two thousand four hundred repetitions make one truth. Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, 1932 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to automatically move Sent Mail to a folder?
Hi Brian, on Wed, 21 May 2008 06:22:34 -0700GMT (21.05.2008, 15:22 +0200GMT here), you wrote: BA How can I set up TheBat! so all Sent Mail is automatically moved to a Folder BA and then deleted from Sent Mail? Account » Sorting Office/Filters » Outgoing Mail: create a filter with the condition contains @ (to catch *all* mails) and the action Move to folder name. -- Cheers Peter Life is a yo-yo, and mankind ties knots in the string. Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't Edit Some Filters
Am 28.04.2008 00:41 schrieb Bill McCarthy: Is there a limit on the number of items (this one has 24) in a contains any of? I remember from some time ago that TB! gets problems with too many conditions in a filter. No-one could tell the exact limit, but it turned out to be a solution to use address book groups for this. So the filter only needs to check if an address is in a certain group instead of checking *all* conditions (addresses) every time. Maybe you can use this approach too. -- Cheers Peter Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates - where are they stored
Hi Thomas, on Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:26:54 +0700GMT (06.04.2008, 16:26 +0200GMT here), you wrote: TF There was a complete list somewhere of all the files and what is TF stored in them. I can't find in the the list FAQ TF (http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html). TF I am currently looking for the location of the common filters. Do you TF know relative path and filename? I'm not sure, but I have an account.cfn file in my mail directory outside the accounts. I tend to think that that is the one. -- Cheers Peter Tagline dispenser temporarily out of order. Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Latest Betas. Where ot find 4.0.18.7
Hi Michael, on Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:22:44 -0400GMT (28.03.2008, 18:22 +0100GMT here), you wrote: MJS Can some kind soul tell me where I can always find the latest Beta? Join the TBBeta mailing list, and you will always be informed. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers Peter Me, indecisive? I'm not so sure about that... Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
Hi Dan, on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:45:30 -0600GMT (26.03.2008, 20:45 +0100GMT here), you wrote: DL And, I don't recall getting a welcome message No problem. You can get it every time here: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Select TBUDL. -- Cheers Peter Hardware, n.: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked. Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to turn of 'Re[2]' in replies
Hi simbabque, on Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:26:56 +0100GMT (22.03.2008, 13:26 +0100GMT here), you wrote: s As I read my last message to the list I saw that it had a [2] in the s subject. How did that get there? It does not show up when I answer s other people's mail or re-mail directly. s Is it something the list does or do I have to change some settings? Add %SINGLERE to your reply template. -- Cheers Peter A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour. Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tree disappearing in Folder Tree
Hi David, on Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:11:16 +GMT (14.03.2008, 19:11 +0100GMT here), you wrote: DE Next problem with the Folder tree. DE I can get all my accounts to disappear off the left hand side. Great, but why would you want to that? DE If I have the Folder tree with both scroll bars showing and I navigate with DE the left cursor back up through the tree when I get to the account and then DE press the left cursor everything disappears of the frame to the left. Sure, the computer does what you tell it. If you need to reset the Folder Tree back to visible, it is most probably some key in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! that you can reset to a positive value. -- Cheers Peter Smash forehead on keyboard to continue. Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup problem
Am 12.03.2008 17:33 schrieb Alberto Almagioni: I'm having a problem with and old scheduled backup. ... Now I'm having this problem: every time the scheduled backup tries to write the tbk file in D:\mail, even if I changed all the scheduled works. I guess somewhere the old path is still written but I cannot find it. Can anyone help me? Yes, it is in the registry. Run regedit.exe and select HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!. Scroll down to Last backup path. Delete or alter the entry. -- Cheers Peter Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP 8.1 weirdness
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi O., on Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:05:30 -0700GMT (02.03.2008, 22:05 +0100GMT here), you wrote: OMM There is something weird going on with The Bat! 4.0.14 and PGP 8.1. OMM I find that if I go to encrypt something and get as far as the OMM select keys to encrypt to screen, then back out, both The Bat! and OMM PGP 8.1 need a restart. OMM Any advice? Sorry, no. The last version of PGP I used was 6.5.8ckt. (I still use it for PGP-disk.) I prefer GnuPG now. Your signature verifies good here though. :) - -- Cheers Peter I'm not rude, I'm attitudinally challenged. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) - GPGshell v3.51 Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication iD8DBQFHyxpDAzZSBuEHdM4RA5F/AJ9ximDFgc79lFjsZQcQLUDdPy9bDACghlCK N6HU5lAWTJseNEhsEcysSCI= =MaVj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Back to TB
Rick Grunwald wrote: It installs a service called TMAGENT in the free and paid versions. In the free it send info back and serves up ads. In the paid it just sends info back. If you remove it you will break the program I have been using the free version of AntispamSniper along with The Bat! for a long time - never saw any ads. hmm -- Cheers Peter Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory usage
Hi Tom, on Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:37:51 +1100GMT (22.02.2008, 12:37 +0100GMT here), you wrote: T just wondering what your average memory usage is for your bat? T I never paid much attention to this but I recently noticed in task T manager something like 60,000-70,000 K and was a bit surprised. T Would that be normal on XP? Here it is Virtual Memory: 75k Physical Memory Working Set: 42k WS Private: 38k Peak Working Set: 51k -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.0.14.4 :beta: on WinXP, SP3 RC, 5, 1, build 2600, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory usage
Hi Christopher, on Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:09:46 -0600GMT (22.02.2008, 23:09 +0100GMT here), you wrote: CW Peter Meyns @ 2008-2-22 1:41:52 PM CW Memory usage mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Here it is Virtual Memory: 75k Physical Memory Working Set: 42k WS Private: 38k Peak Working Set: 51k CW I assume those K's are actually M's. Of course you are right. My mistake. -- Cheers Peter Aibohphobia - Fear of palindromes Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: extracting PGP keys included in messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi MFPA, on Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:29:43 +GMT (18.02.2008, 14:29 +0100GMT here), you wrote: M PGP keys posted within a message or attached to a message can be M imported to PGP by clicking a button that invokes the PGPkeys M import dialog box. M I have always encountered difficulty if the sender pastes their M key into the message then signs the message. This adds a M dashspace in front of the begin and end pgp keyblock lines, M meaning the key has to be pasted into a blank message or text M file, edited to remove the dashspace combos, then pasted into M PGPkeys. M 1. Has this been resolved in recent releases? M 2. Is there a simpler solution? M 3. Anybody aware of an open BT entry on this? It isn't The Bat! that adds dashspace before any line beginning with a dash. It is PGP itself, and it does so in order to avoid confusion with signatures or keys, both of which begin with 5 dashes. For illustration I'll clearsign this message, and you'll see that my sig delimiter gets the extra dashspace too. - -- Cheers Peter If they don't want us to drink and drive, why do you have to have a driver's license to buy beer? ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) - GPGshell v3.51 Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication iD8DBQFHubDMAzZSBuEHdM4RAyQJAJ9oZ293tVq7o9y1OhmiR2lNAcFPKACeMc0H 3CaeRHZbQCJwTRrmkhopwwE= =mZw0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: extracting PGP keys included in messages
I wrote: MFPA wrote: I know, but it is The Bat! that doesn't realise - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- mQCPAz/TeaYAAAEEAMpPtPq9GKywnZz5uD2r5PCq6DN1Bxu6LkpF715bUVTkBxS+ - -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- is the same as -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- mQCPAz/TeaYAAAEEAMpPtPq9GKywnZz5uD2r5PCq6DN1Bxu6LkpF715bUVTkBxS+ -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- and give you the button that invokes the key import dialog box anyway. Looking at this message from Thunderbird makes me understand. The Bat! offered an import key icon, which, of course didn't work. As it seems, The Bat! isn't yet fully developed regarding PGP, although it was a few years ago. hmm I must add: even Thunderbird is fooled into believing there is a public key inline. In a headline it proposes Click Decrypt button to import public key block in message. But there is no such button. So it behaves confused like The Bat!. :) -- Cheers Peter Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: extracting PGP keys included in messages
MFPA wrote: I know, but it is The Bat! that doesn't realise - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- mQCPAz/TeaYAAAEEAMpPtPq9GKywnZz5uD2r5PCq6DN1Bxu6LkpF715bUVTkBxS+ - -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- is the same as -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- mQCPAz/TeaYAAAEEAMpPtPq9GKywnZz5uD2r5PCq6DN1Bxu6LkpF715bUVTkBxS+ -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- and give you the button that invokes the key import dialog box anyway. Looking at this message from Thunderbird makes me understand. The Bat! offered an import key icon, which, of course didn't work. As it seems, The Bat! isn't yet fully developed regarding PGP, although it was a few years ago. hmm -- Cheers Peter Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting filters?
Hi Harald, on Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:34:12 +0100GMT (07.02.2008, 08:34 +0100GMT here), you wrote: H is it possible to export and import filters? Yes, select the filter and copy it to the clipboard with ctrl+C. Go to the other account and select the destination (eg. Incoming or Outgoing) and paste the filter with ctrl+V. -- Cheers Peter Early to rise and early to bed, makes a man healthy but socially dead. Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
(OT) Passing of Kevin Coates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Dear all, as I learned today, Kevin Coates has passed away. After years of battling cancer, he finally succumbed. Here is what Mike Daigle said on the GSWoT list (Gossamer Spider Web of Trust, where Kevin was also a member): ,- | It is with heavy heart that I announce the passing of Kevin Coates. | | Kevin and I had been virtual acquaintances since the forming of the | GSWoT. We would chat almost daily, and even had our local mail servers | set to send mail to each other's PC directly. We often experimented with | new software. Two heads are better than one, after all. Kevin will be | dearly missed. `- I can only sign this. It was much alike here, albeit in 2003-2005 relating to The Bat! and PGP issues. Many of you will also remember him, as he was very active on PGP issues as well as The Bat!'s development. - -- Sad regards Peter xpost2pgp-basics,tbudl,tbbeta,tbot ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) - GPGshell v3.51 Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication iD8DBQFHnj6zAzZSBuEHdM4RAx9/AKC+WUCko4+qmfF8Cf2ZUN4PCCxzwgCfSmV6 a9Jb4VDRcAPwjfV6zyxb4hw= =rLLe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Sorting
Hi Grumpy, on Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:57:10 +1100GMT (12.01.2008, 07:57 +0100GMT here), you wrote: GG When I open Connection Centre (Despatch all messages on the server), GG the messages are sorted in a seemingly random fashion. ... GG So, can anyone tell me if it is possible to sort the Connection GG Centre by Time, permanently? I don't think so. As far as I understand the message dispatcher lists the messages in the order it receives them, i.e., the order they are listed on the server. -- Cheers Peter I.R.S.: We've got what it takes to take what you've got! Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Maximum folder size?
Hi NickOhare, on Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:22:30 -0500GMT (12.01.2008, 20:22 +0100GMT here), you wrote: NZc Recently a friend ran into a problem where the Bat! started giving him NZc warnings that his inbox reached 2 gigs. That's far too much! I didn't know The Bat! warns about it, but right it is! Incoming mails should be moved or filtered to a folder where they belong, and the Inbox compressed. NZc He created another folder and moved half of the contents of the NZc default inbox to the new folder. Why only one half? NZc The Bat! continued to give him the error message, so he decided to NZc compress the folder. He later noticed that the inbox lost all emails NZc prior to the current day. NZc Any ideas where they may have gone? His trash folder is listed as NZc empty but the .tbb file associated with it is listed with a size of 1 NZc gig. Is there any way to get to see what it contains? Create a new folder in The Bat! named test. Close The Bat!. Open your file manager and copy the TBB file to test (overwrite the existing TBB). Start The Bat!. Open the folder test. The messages should be there. -- Cheers Peter Never argue with an idiot. He will draw you down to his level and then beat you with experience. Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with folders
Hi Laura, on Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:35:59 +0100GMT (11.12.2007, 17:35 +0100GMT here), you wrote: L Does someone know if the the Bat-team is reading these e-mails? I don't think so. They hardly participate on TBBeta... -- Cheers Peter Backup not found: (A)bort, (R)etry, (G)et a beer? Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail directory
Hi Tom, on Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:55:51 +1100GMT (09.12.2007, 05:55 +0100GMT here), you wrote: T Sunday, December 9, 2007, 9:09:33 AM, you wrote: T Ok, I can change this under preferences but how about the existing T folders and subfolders. Can I just cut/paste everything to a new T location on the other drive? You don't have to. The Bat! will do it. -- Cheers Peter I'm sick! I ought to be home in bed with a nurse. Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail directory
Hi Tom, on Sun, 9 Dec 2007 08:51:19 +1100GMT (08.12.2007, 22:51 +0100GMT here), you wrote: T I just reinstalled my system, imported all messages and everything is T sweet. T However, I notice that the mail directory is stored on c:drive in T appdata/ T Can I change this to a different drive to keep my data and operating T software separate? I know I can backup to external drives but in case T of a crash/ system failure I would still lose some of my mail. T Just don't want to make changes now if somebody already knows that T this may cause problems down the track? Options » Preferences » System » Mail directory » Browse. I haven't seen any problems yet changing the directory to whatever I wanted. -- Cheers Peter Money is the root of all evil. Send 20 Euros for more info. Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug in 3.99.24
Hi Marek, on Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:33:11 +0200GMT (17.09.2007, 20:33 +0200GMT here), you wrote: MM Monday, September 17, 2007, Tim Hamm wrote: !9/17/2007, 10:50:42: FETCH - Access violation at address 100053CB in module 'antispamservant.tbp'. Read of address ^^^ You didn't read carefully! ;-) But I agree with you that removing the plugin should solve the problem. -- Cheers Peter The three most dangerous things are a programmer with a soldering iron, a manager who codes, and a user who gets ideas. Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment directories
Hi Dave, on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 15:56:21 +1000GMT (16.09.2007, 07:56 +0200GMT here), you wrote: DC My question revolves around the new mail in TB and those file DC attaches; Does TB store them in a new directory as a result of the DC import process ?In other words, all links to Outlook are gone? The Bat! stores attachments according to your settings in Account » Properties » Files Directories. -- Cheers Peter Aibohphobia - Fear of palindromes Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding another FROM address
Hi Timbreblue, on Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:32:18 -0400GMT (02.09.2007, 17:32 +0200GMT here), you wrote: TW Is there a way to have two FROM addresses on one account so I can TW choose which one to send from, or do I have to set up another account? You'd better set up another account. -- Cheers Peter My wife ran away with my best friend. I sure miss him. Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: folders disappeared
Hi Brenda, on Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:10:09 -0700GMT (31.07.2007, 07:10 +0200GMT here), you wrote: B I thought I had the bat set up to do backups every 4 days or B something like that, but I can't find where to set automatic backups now. It is under Options - Preferences - System. B When I tried to go into Tools/Restore, nothing was listed. Data corruption occurs every now and then. That's why back ups are useful, not only for The Bat!. B Well I agree that every program can possibly lose data and that B backups should be made. But it still needs to be looked into by the B developers if users are losing folders. I agree that this should not happen. B Do the developers read this list? Some do sometimes, but not regularly. You might try their forum - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum - I read recently that it is well visited, and I think/hope the developers read it too. -- Cheers Peter Hardware, n.: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked. Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: folders disappeared
Hi Brenda, on Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:04:14 -0700GMT (30.07.2007, 20:04 +0200GMT here), you wrote: B I just checked the folders that are listed in the computer's disk B directory but not in The Bat. B Some of them are empty. (Some of the folders were too but I dont B remember which ones.) Some have files in them called B MESSAGES.TBB B and B MESSAGES.TBI These are The Bat!'s message files. TBB contains the contents and TBI contains further information. To recreate these folders - provided they're not corrupted - create one or more new folders in The Bat!. Remember their names and close The Bat!. Go to The Bat!'s mail files in your file manager and open one of your newly created folders. Overwrite the existing TBB and TBI files with the ones you found. Start The Bat! and see what is in your new folders. -- Cheers Peter If they don't want us to drink and drive, why do you have to have a driver's license to buy beer? Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: folders disappeared
Hi Brenda, on Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:26:54 -0700GMT (30.07.2007, 21:26 +0200GMT here), you wrote: Overwrite the existing TBB and TBI files with the ones you found. Start The Bat! and see what is in your new folders. B Ok I will try that. B But does anyone know why the Bat might have done it in the first place? I don't, but s*** happens... hmm B Because maybe someday it will happen again and I won't realize it B has happened until it is too late to save the messages. I have not B been using the bat for very long so it was really obvious when the B folders went missing. But that might not be the case next time. True. That's why it is strongly recommended to back up The Bat! (and every other stuff you deem important) regularly. B If it is something I did, then I want to make sure not to do it again. I don't think so. But who knows? ;-) B if it is a bug, then it is a very serious one and needs to be B looked into before it happens to other people. Data corruption occurs every now and then. That's why back ups are useful, not only for The Bat!. B In case it matters, I am storing my mail in My Documents in a folder for the bat. It doesn't, as long as there is enough disc space. -- Cheers Peter When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord, in his wisdom, didn't work that way. So I stole one and asked him to forgive me. Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: folders disappeared
Hi Brenda, on Sun, 29 Jul 2007 03:53:06 -0700GMT (29.07.2007, 12:53 +0200GMT here), you wrote: B I noticed that some of my subfolders have disappeared. B ... Try the undocumented key combo ctrl+alt+shift+L while the focus is on the folder pane. It is supposed to reveal lost folders. -- Cheers Peter Up is, by definition, the direction which broadens horizons. A. Cygni Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving Mail
Hi Kitty, on Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:33:44 -0500GMT (09.07.2007, 17:33 +0200GMT here), you wrote: K For years, I've archived mail by placing mail in common folders that I K simply named as Archive folders. I now have well over 700,000 emails K archived most of which I never need to look at but I don't want to K totally get rid of. What are my options for archiving outside of TB, K but where I could easily look at the emails? An addition to Urban's proposal: you can even have your archive within TB! without the need to load the extra 700,000 mails every time TB! starts: create a new account for your archive and password-protect it. Then the mails will only be loaded when you open that account. -- Cheers Peter Bore, n.: A person who talks when you wish him to listen. Ambrose Bierce Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date macro in templates
Hi Nigel, on Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:04:06 +0100GMT (29.06.2007, 17:04 +0200GMT here), you wrote: Ns Any idea how to convert the date macro in templates to display day of Ns week and month in French? Please. As I see it, TB! offers to display dates in the language your computer prefers (%DATE) or in English (%DATEEN). If your language is English, I can see no easy way to have the date displayed in another language, except for changing your computer's first language. Maybe someone else knows an easier way, that I'm not aware of, to achieve this. -- Cheers Peter I haven't lost my mind - it's backed up on tape somewhere. Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual folders not refreshing
Hi Nick, on Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:45:18 +0100GMT (19.06.2007, 15:45 +0200GMT here), you wrote: ND I have set up some virtual folders for things like: ND Today, Yesterday, This Week, Recent Junk etc. ND I seem to remember that, in the old days, navigating away and then ND back would update a stale VF. Now I find that I need to perform a ND Folder-Refresh in order for them to update. ND Can anyone else confirm this? Yes, I can confirm this for my VF that is supposed to show messages of the last 24 hours. There is an entry in the bug tracker about this issue: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3132 -- Cheers Peter Example is not the main thing in influencing others. It is the only thing. Albert Schweitzer Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: signing with S/MIME
Hi Alto, on Wed, 30 May 2007 14:20:29 +0200GMT (30.05.2007, 14:20 +0200GMT here), you wrote: AS I can't manage to sign a message using S/MIME. I always get a notice AS a la no certificate to sign message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] found. Which isn't AS all that surprising since the certificate I want to use carries an AS email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] AS How can I use the certificate in spite of the discrepancy? I know that AS the recipient of the signed message may see a invalid signature, but AS let's say I want to accept that - how do I do it? AFAIK, you can't, or at least, you shouldn't. I was advised by my CA (Thawte) to create a certificate for each email address. -- Cheers Peter If they don't want us to drink and drive, why do you have to have a driver's license to buy beer? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!
Hi Perry,
on Tue, 22 May 2007 12:45:37 -0400GMT (22.05.2007, 18:45 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:
PN Can any of you tell me how I would enter the symbol for the Euro while
PN typing a message in The Bat!? I am using the Western European (ISO)
PN character set.
I can get the euro character (€) with {right alt}+E. But that's
because I'm using a German keyboard. :P
A more general way would be this: hold alt and type 0128 on the numeric
pad. I'm not sure if it works for you, because the ascii numbers above
0127 can be different on different machines.
I found my wisdom here:
http://www.ssi-developer.net/reference/ascii-0.shtml or
http://cwashington.netreach.net/main/library/ascii_chart.html
--
Cheers
Peter
A pessimist is never disappointed.
Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Missing folders
Hi rich, on Sun, 13 May 2007 16:15:56 -0400GMT (13.05.2007, 22:15 +0100GMT here), you wrote: rg Using old-timey version 2.12... rg Is there a way to force TB! to inspect the account folder tree to make rg sure that there are no mail boxes missing? rg ... rg Is there a way to get TB! to re-read the drive's folder tree under the rg account main folder? The undocumented shortcut ctrl+shift+alt+L does exactly this. -- Cheers Peter The number one cause of computer problems is computer solutions. Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox damaged after folder maintenance (3.99.3 OTFE )
Hi Charlene, on Wed, 2 May 2007 21:58:47 +0200GMT (02.05.2007, 21:58 +0200GMT here), you wrote: CF Performing a folder check in folder maintenance center will repeatedly CF cause a damaged inbox folder with a loss of all emails in it, including all CF subfolders of Inbox. Strange that no other folder is affected. CF She runs 3.99.3 on OTFE under Win MCE -as I do, too. I have a similar problem with Voyager 3.99.4. It occurs only with two folders that are not *too* important to me, not an Inbox. I avoid to select Check integrity in folder maintenance for the time being... Maybe I should try Roelof's suggestion here too. ;-) -- Cheers Peter I'm sick! I ought to be home in bed with a nurse. The Bat! Voyager v3.99.4 OS: Windows XP, v.5.1,Build 2600 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogues and Smileys in Voyager
Hi Gmail_mcristina.ramos, I don't consider this off topic, so I crosspost my reply to TBUDL. :) On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:47:54 +GMT you wrote on TBOT: Gr I guess this is a repeated question, but can anyone tell me whether Gr we can use Rogues and Smileys in Voyager. Sure we can! :)) Just make sure to have your Images folder with the Rogues and Smileys copied to the Voyager directory on the stick, and it will work as with The Bat!. But there are two things you should keep in mind: Have an eye on the global.ini file in the Voyager directory. It adds lines about the MSL files for every time you start Voyager. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6167 Depending on your USB stick's capacity, it might be worthwhile to delete the superfluous lines. (I'm using Voyager on a 128MB stick...) And in case you open a message editor, it adds an entry to the registry of the host machine. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5515 As a matter of courtesy, I prefer to delete this key after using a friend's computer. -- Cheers Peter Oh Lord, give me patience. But give it to me RIGHT BLOODY NOW! Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogues and Smileys in Voyager
Hi Cristina, on Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:07:50 +GMT (11.02.2007, 19:07 +0100GMT here), you wrote: [RegKey left by Voyager] As a matter of courtesy, I prefer to delete this key after using a friend's computer. Gr So, I should use regedit, search for Voyager and delete the key? In principle, yes. I automate it with a batch file for exiting Voyager which also deletes the reg key. Gr Hmmm... Sometimes that might not be possible. For example, when using Gr my work (school) computers I don't have Administrator's privileges, so Gr I don't think I can edit the Registry. If Voyager can't write to the registry there is no need for cleaning up. :) -- Cheers Peter 'Yield to temptation. It may not come your way again.' Oscar Wilde Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blue Lines
Feli Wilcke schrieb: On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:50:05 +0700GMT Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF But asking Ritlabs to make the HTML editor not add this unwanted TF line should be the better solution. It's certainly a TB shortcoming, TF but I think they added this blue line on purpose, because they want to TF deter users from replying in HTML. ;-) Outlook also adds a blue line at the left side of a replied mail, although is is much thinner than the blue bar in TB. So does Mozilla Thunderbird, even on both sides of the text and it adds lines of different colors to other quote levels. I cannot say that I like it... :( -- Cheers Peter Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blue Lines
Hi Alexander, on Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:20:20 +0100GMT (31.01.2007, 19:20 +0100GMT here), you wrote: ASK on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 at 18:52 you (Peter Meyns) wrote: So does Mozilla Thunderbird, even on both sides of the text and it adds lines of different colors to other quote levels. I cannot say that I like it... :( ASK I thought its only an on-screen rendering in Thunderbird that you can ASK turn on and off, or is it permanent with HTML mails? It may very well be that it can be turned off. I haven't dug too deep into TBird's settings yet - I only installed my actual Linux partition with Kanotix a few days ago. I turned off the default sending of HTML though. :)) And now, with the new beta of The Bat! present, I'm even more in a conflict which OS I should start... ;-) I'll check the blue lines next time I run TBird. :) For The Bat! I most definitely wish them to be optional, when there's any need for them at all. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.96.01 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager: Smilies
Hi Simon, on Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:23:58 +GMT (28.01.2007, 13:23 +0100GMT here), you wrote: S Having a spare moment and being a relatively new-ish user to the S Voyager program I noticed a week or so ago that I didn't have 'Smilies' displayed in Voyager. S I decided to simply copy the 'images' folder from my TB directory S to the corresponding directory on my USB media. It clearly works, S including 'Rogues' and 'PCWsmilies'. S I don't remember an installation option to allow/deny 'smilies' - did I miss something? Right click on a message with a smiley like this one and select Smileys. :)) I knew it was somewhere - still I searched for quite a while... ;) -- Cheers Peter The irony of life is that no one gets out alive... Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Alexander S. Kunz schrieb: Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work. And *both* are 3.95.08?!? Yes they are indeed. One from the MSI with the normal splash screen and smileys disabled, and one from the last beta RAR with the Christmas screen and smileys working. As a matter of fact, both show 3.95.8 as the version number, lacking the zero... -- Cheers Peter Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hi Mary, on Thu, 25 Jan 2007 07:30:05 -0600GMT (25.01.2007, 14:30 +0100GMT here), you wrote: MB On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 7:17 AM, you wrote: But, then, I can't see my pretty smiley images, that way either, of course. And I do miss them. Some of them are animated, especially the PCWIZE collection. I'm a child at heart, and I like the fun of them. Do you really need any of the functionality in this last version? Think about it and revert to a version with smileys :) MB Good suggestion. MB However, I'm still beta testing, even though, for personal reasons, I MB am no longer posting on TBBETA. MB So, I hate to see RitLabs abandon the .msl plus resident icons and MB pics in The Bat!/Images feature. MB And I think I am not alone in this. No, you're not! :) I reverted to the last beta before this MSI for that reason. It has the same version number, although it's not the same. It still shows the Christmas splash screen and Smilies work well. :)) MB Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think. If I were a smiley-hater, I would just turn them off! :lol: -- Cheers Peter Tagline dispenser temporarily out of order. Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hi Mary, on Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:39:31 -0600GMT (25.01.2007, 19:39 +0100GMT here), you wrote: MB Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think. If I were a smiley-hater, I would just turn them off! :lol: MB Some are very righteous about it, though. ;) MB And Miguel's opinion is that this is deliberate coding by the MB developers. Why would they? I just started a new trial with a Linux partition, and even KMail shows smilies. I haven't looked yet, if they can be turned off at all... :)) MB Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :( MB I feel abandoned, too. :boohoo: Don't! :kissy: ;) MB http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php Exactly! :B -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.95.8 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
