Re: Bayesit (was: Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?)

[Andre Wichartz]

Hello Peter,

On 24 Feb 2004 at 21:41:25 +0100 GMT [21:41 CET] you wrote:

PO> Hello Andre Wichartz,

PO> on Tue, 24 Feb 2004 18:44:26 +0100 (2004-02-24 18:44:26 in .nl) in the
PO> message with reference
PO>  you
PO> [AW] wrote (at least in part):

DW>>> This is what I've been doing, marking spam as Junk, but shouldn't
DW>>> Bayesit start to filter out spam by itself? When does it start
DW>>> doing that?

AW>> Yes, but in my experience it needs a lot of spam before. At least a few
AW>> hundred messages, the more the better. Another thing you could try is
AW>> to lower the score needed to move a spam to the junk folder as set in
AW>> preferences. You can set it very low, I've set it to 1, the absolute
AW>> minimum, and still get no false positives.

PO> Up to the 2.04.04 release BayesIt 0.4gm worked quite fine here, with a
PO> score level of 40.

PO> Starting with 2.04.04, BayesIt 0.4gm SE hardly catches spam anymore.

I'm still using the old gm. I upgraded to 2.04 and because I had bayesit
already installed wasn't asked to install the SE. I understand that you
loose the training with the SE and that is has other problems. Therefore
I didn't really wanted to update my bayesit.

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 Andre

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 It is the one who won't be taken who cannot seem to give.
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Re[2]: Bayesit (was: Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?)

[MikeD (3)]

Hello Peter,

Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 3:41:25 PM, you wrote:

PO> Up to the 2.04.04 release BayesIt 0.4gm worked quite fine here, with a
PO> score level of 40.

PO> Starting with 2.04.04, BayesIt 0.4gm SE hardly catches spam anymore. It
PO> has been trained with something like 3000 spam messages, which should be
PO> enough I think. I lowered the score level to 20, without improvement so
PO> far. I'll try your suggested level of 1 for a while.

I have mine set to 10 at the moment and it seems to be doing pretty
well.  The big problem is that the spammers are changing tactics so
often now that there are new things every couple of days 

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Re: Bayesit (was: Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?)

[Peter Ouwehand]

Hello Andre Wichartz,

on Tue, 24 Feb 2004 18:44:26 +0100 (2004-02-24 18:44:26 in .nl) in the
message with reference  you
[AW] wrote (at least in part):

DW>> This is what I've been doing, marking spam as Junk, but shouldn't
DW>> Bayesit start to filter out spam by itself? When does it start
DW>> doing that?

AW> Yes, but in my experience it needs a lot of spam before. At least a few
AW> hundred messages, the more the better. Another thing you could try is
AW> to lower the score needed to move a spam to the junk folder as set in
AW> preferences. You can set it very low, I've set it to 1, the absolute
AW> minimum, and still get no false positives.

Up to the 2.04.04 release BayesIt 0.4gm worked quite fine here, with a
score level of 40.

Starting with 2.04.04, BayesIt 0.4gm SE hardly catches spam anymore. It
has been trained with something like 3000 spam messages, which should be
enough I think. I lowered the score level to 20, without improvement so
far. I'll try your suggested level of 1 for a while.

Also, since 2.04.04, BayesIt is creating files in %SystemDrive%\ (here
D:\) and %Homedrive%%HomePath% (here Z:\), not in any temp-directory.

Was it wise to pack BayesIt 0.4gm SE with TB! on such short notice?
Well, there have been discussions on TBBETA . . .


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Bayesit (was: Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?)

[Andre Wichartz]

Hello Doug,

On 24 Feb 2004 at 13:58:38 + GMT [14:58 CET] you wrote:

DW> This is what I've been doing, marking spam as Junk, but shouldn't Bayesit start
DW> to filter out spam by itself? When does it start doing that?

Yes, but in my experience it needs a lot of spam before. At least a few
hundred messages, the more the better. Another thing you could try is
to lower the score needed to move a spam to the junk folder as set in
preferences. You can set it very low, I've set it to 1, the absolute
minimum, and still get no false positives.

-- 
Cheers,
 Andre

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 Everyone going slower
 than you is an idiot
 and everyone going faster a maniac."  



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