Clock syncing

1999-10-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Steve,

on Friday, October 22, 1999, 11:50:09 PM, Steve Lamb wrote:

SL> For me, syncing my server off a tier 2 clock and syncing the rest off
SL> my server is good enough.  I simply don't need to be in the <3-5 second
SL> catagory and don't mind that much drift at all.  It is precise enough for my
SL> mail to be correctly placed with the rest of the world and for me to set my
SL> house clocks to and still get to work on time.  ;)

Let me make myself look stupid: Where can I donwload such a
clock-syncronizer? Is it freeware? And does it work for LAN's as well
(Novell Netware)?

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Re: Clock syncing

1999-10-22 Thread Ali Martin

Hi all,

On Friday, October 22, 1999, 10:19:07 PM (-5 GMT), Thomas scribbled:

==8<===

> Let me make myself look stupid: Where can I donwload such a
> clock-syncronizer? Is it freeware? And does it work for LAN's as well
> (Novell Netware)?

'Horas' which I use isn't freeware. It's available at:

  http://www.basta.com/ProdHoras.htm

  Costs $15.

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Re: Clock syncing

1999-10-22 Thread Steve Lamb

Friday, October 22, 1999, 8:19:07 PM, Thomas wrote:
> Let me make myself look stupid: Where can I donwload such a
> clock-syncronizer? Is it freeware? And does it work for LAN's as well
> (Novell Netware)?

The one I use is Automachron which is free



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Re: Clock syncing

1999-10-23 Thread Steve Lamb

Saturday, October 23, 1999, 2:09:35 AM, Marck wrote:
> I  also  use  Automachron  but  in conjunction with another one called
> "About  Time"  which is careware (also free)
> in  a  combination.  About  Time will both synch and act as a 3rd tier
> Server for a network.

That's what XNTPD on my server is for.  ;)

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Re: Clock syncing

1999-10-24 Thread Oleg Zalyalov

Hello, the Bat! list recipients,

Saturday, October 23, 1999, Thomas Fernandez wrote about
Clock syncing:

TF> Let me make myself look stupid: Where can I donwload such a
TF> clock-syncronizer? Is it freeware? And does it work for LAN's as well
TF> (Novell Netware)?

I   use   Dimension4   which  is  free.  Available  at  TUCOWS/Online
Services/Time Syncchronizers.


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Re[2]: Clock syncing

1999-10-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Ali,

On Saturday, October 23, 1999, 12:02:29 PM, Ali Martin wrote:

>> Let me make myself look stupid: Where can I donwload such a
>> clock-syncronizer? Is it freeware? And does it work for LAN's as well
>> (Novell Netware)?

AM> 'Horas' which I use isn't freeware. It's available at:

AM>   http://www.basta.com/ProdHoras.htm

AM>   Costs $15.

Thanks. I just downloaded it for eveluation.

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Re[2]: Clock syncing

1999-10-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Steve,

On Saturday, October 23, 1999, 1:47:02 PM, Steve Lamb wrote:

>> Let me make myself look stupid: Where can I donwload such a
>> clock-syncronizer? Is it freeware? And does it work for LAN's as well
>> (Novell Netware)?

SL> The one I use is Automachron which is free

SL> 

Thanks, I've downloaded this now on my home computer for evaluation.

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Re[2]: Clock syncing

1999-10-23 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

On 23 October 1999 at 06:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] told the list:

SL> Friday, October 22, 1999, 8:19:07 PM, Thomas wrote:
>> Let me make myself look stupid: Where can I donwload such a
>> clock-syncronizer? Is it freeware? And does it work for LAN's as well
>> (Novell Netware)?

SL> The one I use is Automachron which is free

SL> 

I  also  use  Automachron  but  in conjunction with another one called
"About  Time"  which is careware (also free)
in  a  combination.  About  Time will both synch and act as a 3rd tier
Server for a network.

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Date Presentation [was Re[2]: Clock syncing]

1999-10-22 Thread Philippe Gouillou

Bonjour,

  I'd  like  to  have  the  possibility in a Reply to have the date in
  reference to UTC (as we can find it in the Kludges).

  See the exemple below (one of the last mails of Steve Lamb) :

  The  real  date of the message of Steve Lamb is : "Date: Fri, 22 Oct
  1999  22:47:02  -0700" which is transformed in Saturday, October 23,
  1999, 7:47:02 AM in UTC +0200 (where I live).

  Now, what is the real date of the message of Thomas 

  Indeed  it is (from the kludges) :  "Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:19:07
  +0800"

  But if I do a reply to the message of Tomas, the date I obtain is :
  "Saturday, October 23, 1999, 5:19:07 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:"

  These  two  dates  are  quite differents from : "Friday, October 22,
  1999, 8:19:07 PM"

  How can I do ?

  Thanks

  Philippe

Saturday, October 23, 1999, 7:47:02 AM, Steve Lamb wrote:

  SL> Friday, October 22, 1999, 8:19:07 PM, Thomas wrote:
>> Let me make myself look stupid: Where can I donwload such a
>> clock-syncronizer? Is it freeware? And does it work for LAN's as well
>> (Novell Netware)?

SL> The one I use is Automachron which is free

SL> 


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Re: Date Presentation [was Re[2]: Clock syncing]

1999-10-23 Thread Ali Martin

Hi all,

On Saturday, October 23, 1999, 1:34:03 AM (-5 GMT), Philippe scribbled:

>   I'd  like  to  have  the  possibility in a Reply to have the date
>   in reference to UTC (as we can find it in the Kludges).

>   See the exemple below (one of the last mails of Steve Lamb) :

>   The  real  date of the message of Steve Lamb is : "Date: Fri, 22 Oct
>   1999  22:47:02  -0700" which is transformed in Saturday, October 23,
>   1999, 7:47:02 AM in UTC +0200 (where I live).

>   Now, what is the real date of the message of Thomas 

>   Indeed  it is (from the kludges) :  "Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:19:07
>   +0800"

>   But if I do a reply to the message of Tomas, the date I obtain is :
>   "Saturday, October 23, 1999, 5:19:07 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:"

>   These  two  dates  are  quite differents from : "Friday, October 22,
>   1999, 8:19:07 PM"

>   How can I do ?

I don't like the way TB does it either. What it actually does is
transform the senders time to your time, correcting using the relative
GMT. That's reasonable for listing by creation time but the problem is
as you say. When you choose to reply to the message, it's your time
and not the senders that's placed in the intro line. This confused a
few of my correspondents when I first started using TB. They quite
rightly indicated that they didn't send the message at the stated time
and I had to be clarifying.

What, I've done is to place in my templates my GMT, and in so doing,
put the stated time in perspective. When the sender sees the GMT and
makes his corrections, then he'll see that the time is in fact
correct. I, however, dislike this since the message is a reply to the
sender and hence it's more appropriate to state the original message
creation time in his/her time zone.

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Re: Date Presentation [was Re[2]: Clock syncing]

1999-10-23 Thread Ali Martin

Hi all,

On Saturday, October 23, 1999, 12:41:33 PM (-5 GMT), Marck scribbled:

AM>>> What,  I've  done  is  to place in my templates my GMT, and in so
AM>>> doing,  put  the stated time in perspective. When the sender sees
AM>>> the  GMT  and makes his corrections, then he'll see that the time
AM>>> is in fact correct. I, however, dislike this since the message is
AM>>> a  reply  to  the sender and hence it's more appropriate to state
AM>>> the original message creation time in his/her time zone.

PG>> Thank for the idea : I've added (UTC +0200) to my template. I hope
PG>> I'll  think  about  changing  it when we will change of hour (this
PG>> night ?)

PG>> But,  of course, it doesn't resolve the 2nd level quoting, and I'd
PG>> like to have the option to stay completely in UTC

> Just  a thought ... couldn't %REGEXPTEXT be used in the reply template
> to  pick  out  the  Date:  header  and  show the date in its' original
> format?

Don't know but 

I'm all ears of course. :)))

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Re[2]: Date Presentation [was Re[2]: Clock syncing]

1999-10-23 Thread Philippe Gouillou

Bonjour,

Saturday, October 23, 1999, 2:40:11 PM (UTC +0200), Ali Martin wrote:


AM> What, I've done is to place in my templates my GMT, and in so doing,
AM> put the stated time in perspective. When the sender sees the GMT and
AM> makes his corrections, then he'll see that the time is in fact
AM> correct. I, however, dislike this since the message is a reply to the
AM> sender and hence it's more appropriate to state the original message
AM> creation time in his/her time zone.

Thank for the idea : I've added (UTC +0200) to my template. I hope
I'll  think  about  changing  it when we will change of hour (this
night ?)

But,  of course, it doesn't resolve the 2nd level quoting, and I'd
like to have the option to stay completely in UTC


  A bientôt,

Philippe

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Re[3]: Date Presentation [was Re[2]: Clock syncing]

1999-10-23 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

On 23 October 1999 at 18:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] told the list:

AM>> What,  I've  done  is  to place in my templates my GMT, and in so
AM>> doing,  put  the stated time in perspective. When the sender sees
AM>> the  GMT  and makes his corrections, then he'll see that the time
AM>> is in fact correct. I, however, dislike this since the message is
AM>> a  reply  to  the sender and hence it's more appropriate to state
AM>> the original message creation time in his/her time zone.

PG> Thank for the idea : I've added (UTC +0200) to my template. I hope
PG> I'll  think  about  changing  it when we will change of hour (this
PG> night ?)

PG> But,  of course, it doesn't resolve the 2nd level quoting, and I'd
PG> like to have the option to stay completely in UTC

Just  a thought ... couldn't %REGEXPTEXT be used in the reply template
to  pick  out  the  Date:  header  and  show the date in its' original
format?

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Re[2]: Date Presentation [was Re[2]: Clock syncing]

1999-10-23 Thread Philippe Gouillou

Bonjour,

Saturday, October 23, 1999, 7:54:03 PM (UTC +0200), Ali Martin wrote:


>> Just  a thought ... couldn't %REGEXPTEXT be used in the reply template
>> to  pick  out  the  Date:  header  and  show the date in its' original
>> format?

AM> Don't know but 

AM> I'm all ears of course. :)))

I  do  agree  :  it's  probably possible, I imagine it is, but I'm
unable  to  do that. A macro already developed would be better for
people like me.


  A bientôt,

Philippe


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Re[3]: Date Presentation [was Re[2]: Clock syncing]

1999-10-24 Thread tracer

Sunday, October 24, 1999

Hello Philippe,

Sunday, Sunday, October 24, 1999, you wrote:

Philippe> Bonjour,

Philippe> Saturday, October 23, 1999, 2:40:11 PM (UTC +0200), Ali Martin wrote:


AM>> What, I've done is to place in my templates my GMT, and in so doing,
AM>> put the stated time in perspective. When the sender sees the GMT and
AM>> makes his corrections, then he'll see that the time is in fact
AM>> correct. I, however, dislike this since the message is a reply to the
AM>> sender and hence it's more appropriate to state the original message
AM>> creation time in his/her time zone.

Philippe> Thank for the idea : I've added (UTC +0200) to my template. I hope
Philippe> I'll  think  about  changing  it when we will change of hour (this
Philippe> night ?)

Philippe> But,  of course, it doesn't resolve the 2nd level quoting, and I'd
Philippe> like to have the option to stay completely in UTC
Why not convert all to GMT very visibly. I mean everybody knows his GMT
but I would have to think hard to know what a local timezone is
called. No idea what my own is.  Except that I know I am one hour
behind Taiwan as all motherboards are set one hour wrong... (g)
But I do know its GMT +7.

Philippe>   A bientôt,

Philippe> Philippe

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