Contact management...

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

Anybody has a few tips on how to manage contacts between different
programmes (TB, calendar, mobile phone directories)?

Any good software recommendation which work nicely together with TB?

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Re: Contact management...

[Miroslav Florensen]

Hello Thorvald,

> Any good software recommendation which work nicely together with TB?

take a look at Mobile Master › http://www.mobile-master.de

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Re: Contact management...

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Miroslav Florensen & everyone else,

on 28-Okt-2005 at 20:01 you (Miroslav Florensen) wrote:

>> Any good software recommendation which work nicely together with TB?

> take a look at Mobile Master ? http://www.mobile-master.de

The short test in the german c't magazine was not very positive...

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Contact Management s/w

[Tony Owens]

Hi TBUDL folks,
 
 Does anyone know if TB! can be (has been) "integrated"
 successfully with any contact management software (e.g.
 ACT, Goldmine, Maximizer, etc.). I'm currently using
 ACT2000's internet mail, but would prefer it to use TB!
 Unfortunately, TB! does not show up as an option in
 ACT2000's email system setup wizard.


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Re: Contact Management s/w

[syv]

On Tuesday, March 06, 2001 , Tony Owens wrote the
following in regards to: [Contact Management s/w]


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TO> Hi TBUDL folks,
 
TO>  Does anyone know if TB! can be (has been) "integrated"
TO>  successfully with any contact management software (e.g.
TO>  ACT, Goldmine, Maximizer, etc.). I'm currently using
TO>  ACT2000's internet mail, but would prefer it to use TB!
TO>  Unfortunately, TB! does not show up as an option in
TO>  ACT2000's email system setup wizard.

Yes. I am using it with Maximizer 6. It works on ASCII
emails.

I think that the SMAPI does not deal properly with the
HTML. Maximizer hangs.

Goldmine has it's own built-in email system. It will do
mail merge,... But it does not have all the templates,
but it has filters and macros


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Re: Contact Management s/w

[John]

Hello Tony and All,

Wednesday, March 07, 2001, 2:50:11 AM, you wrote:

TO> Hi TBUDL folks,
 
TO>  Does anyone know if TB! can be (has been) "integrated"
TO>  successfully with any contact management software (e.g.
TO>  ACT, Goldmine, Maximizer, etc.). I'm currently using
TO>  ACT2000's internet mail, but would prefer it to use TB!
TO>  Unfortunately, TB! does not show up as an option in
TO>  ACT2000's email system setup wizard.


This  does not address your message, but your question has given me
the opportunity to ask other related questions.
  
Microsoft Outlook Express integrates successfully with Outlook the MS contact,
information and time management software. The BaT! does not seem to perfectly
integrate with the contact managers you mentioned. Why is it so?  Does the developers
of these softwares consider the Bat! as not being important enough to include it in the
email system setup wizard? So why doesn't RITLABS create its own information manager
to accompany the Bat!. If people have chosen to pay for the Bat! while OE is "free",
won't they buy a Personal Information Manager from  RITLABS if it is as good as the 
Bat!?
As a side question, which PIM is most commonly used among the Bat! community?
  
I don't have any notion of programming, but a PIM in my opinion has much in common 
with an
email client : Address book, sorting, filtering, templates, search function, tree 
structure
for organising messages (tree structure for organising information for a PIM), forms, 
columns etc .
I may be completely wrong, but can we say that a good email client is already half way 
to a good PIM?
If so it wouldn't be that difficult to write a PIM as a plug-in for the Bat!.
  
  
Thank you for your attention

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The Bat! as a PIM's (Re[2]: Contact Management s/w)

[David Elliott]

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Hi John,

On 07 March 2001 at 13:54:06 +0400 (which was 09:54 where I live) John
wrote

J> Microsoft Outlook Express integrates successfully with Outlook the MS
J> contact, information and time management software.

ROTFL.

J> Does the developers of these softwares consider the Bat! as not being
J> important enough to include it in the email system setup wizard?

Is this what MAPI is for ? (If I understand the question)

J> So why doesn't RITLABS create its own information manager to accompany
J> the Bat!.

Time, money, people.

J> If people have chosen to pay for the Bat! while OE is "free", won't they
J> buy a Personal Information Manager from  RITLABS if it is as good as the
J> Bat!?

Yep.

J> As a side question, which PIM is most commonly used among the Bat!
J> community?

Lotus Organiser.

J> I don't have any notion of programming, but a PIM in my opinion has much
J> in common with an email client : Address book, sorting, filtering,
J> templates, search function, tree structure for organising messages (tree
J> structure for organising information for a PIM), forms, columns etc . I
J> may be completely wrong, but can we say that a good email client is
J> already half way to a good PIM?

IMHO The Bat! is a good email client it does not pretend to be anything
else. Outlook on the other hand is not even RFC 822 compliant, it is full
of holes and use to crash on me several times a day. (If only Darth Lamb
was still on this list )

J> If so it wouldn't be that difficult to write a PIM as a plug-in for the
J> Bat!.

Err, as you stated you don't have any notion of programming so how can you
make this statement?

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Re: The Bat! as a PIM's (Re[2]: Contact Management s/w)

[John]

Hello David,


Thank you for being very lenient with my total ignorance of programming
and for answering with much patience to questions I always
wanted to ask. As the opportunity presented itself I just jumped on it.

So any similarity between PIM & email client is only in appearance.
Now I admit I feel less perplexed.



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Re: The Bat! as a PIM's (Re[2]: Contact Management s/w)

[Douglas Hinds]

Hello David, John & others on TBUDL following this thread,

Wednesday, March 07, 2001,  you stated regarding :

The Bat! as a PIM's Contact Manager for email (not phone calls or
appointments).

J>> Microsoft Outlook Express integrates successfully with Outlook the MS
J>> contact, information and time management software.

DE> ROTFL.

I haven't learned what ROTFL stands foor, but imagine it means
something like "so what". (Who would want to ride on that ship)!

J>> Does the developers of these softwares consider the Bat! as not being
J>> important enough to include it in the email system setup wizard?

It's also important to NOT take on more that more than one can
handle well. There are a lot of things TB! doesn't do. It just
happens to be the best email solution available to date (AFAIK).

DE> Is this what MAPI is for ? (If I understand the question)

I would say that OLE2 dynamic linking might be the mechanism needed,
and most good PIM's have that now.



J>> If people have chosen to pay for the Bat! while OE is "free", won't they
J>> buy a Personal Information Manager from  RITLABS if it is as good as the
J>> Bat!?

I'd say that what people who use TB! want from each and every
application is comprehensiveness, control and integration. The
paradigm of all from one source is M$'s way of doing things, & and
what they do is buy out other companies anyway.

EccoPro (from NetManage) is a very good PIM (which I still use) that
integrates w/ their own mailer (Z-Mail) and browser (WebCrawler).
All were very good but were dropped by NetManage for the windows
platform. EccoPro is for sale and could probably be integrated w/
TB°! (it's OLE2 enabled and calls up Z-Mail) but someone dedicated to
programming would have to comment further - I just use these things

J>> As a side question, which PIM is most commonly used among the Bat!
J>> community?

DE> Lotus Organiser.

Definitely inferior to EcoPro IMO.

J>> I don't have any notion of programming, but a PIM in my opinion has much
J>> in common with an email client : Address book, sorting, filtering,
J>> templates, search function, tree structure for organising messages (tree
J>> structure for organising information for a PIM), forms, columns etc . I
J>> may be completely wrong, but can we say that a good email client is
J>> already half way to a good PIM?

Part way.



J>> If so it wouldn't be that difficult to write a PIM as a plug-in for the
J>> Bat!.

I would be interested to know how difficult it would be from a
programming standpoint to integrate TB! with EccoPro or another good
PIM (Act, Goldmine, Jana Contact, Maximizer, etc.).

Am I correct about OLE2 being involved? What would call up the
mailer? To what degree and in what way does the registry figure in?
What about associating an extension used by TB! and linking it to
the PIM's document handling facility? (The big 3 of a PIM are
contact, agenda & document handling). If I have time I may fiddle w/
this but the best bet for an convergence would be another
independent app that made it relatively easy to integrate w/ any
mailer.

Lastly, if NetManage's price for EccoPro is not out of line w/ it's
potential, this might be a good investment for someone (inc RITLabs)
who would add the TB! integration, if that were easily accomplished.

The main problem w/ EccoPro is the fact that NetManage stopped
developing new versions & fixing glitches, but it was ahead of the
field at the time.

Douglas

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Re[2]: The Bat! as a PIM's (Re[2]: Contact Management s/w)

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Douglas,

On Thursday, March 08, 2001 08:46:22 [ -0600 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'The Bat! as a PIM's (Re[2]: Contact
Management s/w)':

J>>> Microsoft Outlook Express integrates successfully with Outlook the MS
J>>> contact, information and time management software.

DE>> ROTFL.

Douglas> I haven't learned what ROTFL stands foor

  As an Ecco & TB! user, I admire what you are trying to accomplish.
  However, ROTFL is an acronym for 'Rolling on the Floor Laughing'
  which is directed @ your M$ comments rather than the notion you are
  proposing.

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Re[2]: The Bat! as a PIM's (Re[2]: Contact Management s/w)

[Kevin]

Hello Douglas,

Thursday, March 08, 2001, 2:46:22 PM, you wrote:

D> I haven't learned what ROTFL stands foor, but imagine it means
D> something like "so what". (Who would want to ride on that ship)!

Rolling On The Floor Laughing. There's also ROTFLMAO, Rolling On The
Floor Laughing My Arse* Off.

D> There are a lot of things TB! doesn't do. It just happens to be the
D> best email solution available to date (AFAIK).

I'm right with you there. I've tried out a few other mailers
(Turnpike, Eudora Pro, Becky, Poco, PMMail and Pegasus) but, TB! is
the one I prefer.

* UK spelling.

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