Re: Deleting from Server _after_ downloading and reading

2002-06-21 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Jim,

It was Thursday, June 20, 2002 at 9:24 AM, when Jim [J] wrote:

J>   Viewing the mail in TB and then opening the Dispatch Mail window is
J>   not especially efficient IMO. I was just wondering if TB had a
J>   "better way" of doing it than that.  :)

You could use a manual filter with the action "Delete message from
Server".  It works quite effectively.

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Re: Deleting from Server _after_ downloading and reading

2002-06-20 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Thursday, June 20, 2002, Jonathan Angliss wrote...

> Ahhh... technically they have given you shell access, they just
> modified a file on the server that runs as soon as you login (on bash,
> it's .bash_login or something like that), which spawns pine to open.
> As for how they kick you off again when you quit, I'm not sure.

Should have also said telnet is *still* a bad way of doing it... it's
easy to listen in on plain text :P  They should at least use SSH.

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Re: Deleting from Server _after_ downloading and reading

2002-06-20 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Thursday, June 20, 2002, Thomas F wrote...

> Yes and no (it is not this account, BTW). When I telnet into my
> account on port 23, pine will automatically launch. Once you quit
> pine, the connection will be terminated. I keep asking them for shell
> access (which I had in the beginning, using ksh), but they refuse,
> quoting security reasons.

Ahhh... technically they have given you shell access, they just
modified a file on the server that runs as soon as you login (on bash,
it's .bash_login or something like that), which spawns pine to open.
As for how they kick you off again when you quit, I'm not sure.

> I would really like to have my shell access back. Isn't there a way
> under unix they can restrict me to my home directory? (Is this OT?)

Yes, they can... it's a pain trying to do it for telnet/ssh as most
shell's no longer support the /:/ in the passwd file.  And OT it is ;)

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Re: Deleting from Server _after_ downloading and reading

2002-06-20 Thread Thomas F

Hello Jonathan,

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 11:46:59 -0500 GMT (20/06/02, 23:46 +0700 GMT),
Jonathan Angliss wrote:

JA> Your ISP still allows telnet?  Damn... they're living in the dark
JA> ages, and just begging to be hacked.

Yes and no (it is not this account, BTW). When I telnet into my
account on port 23, pine will automatically launch. Once you quit
pine, the connection will be terminated. I keep asking them for shell
access (which I had in the beginning, using ksh), but they refuse,
quoting security reasons.

I would really like to have my shell access back. Isn't there a way
under unix they can restrict me to my home directory? (Is this OT?)

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Re: Deleting from Server _after_ downloading and reading

2002-06-20 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Thursday, June 20, 2002, Thomas F wrote...

> Allow me to disagree. I used to telnet into my account and delete
> messages with pine (which is located on the unix server of my ISP),
> but when I discovered the Mail Dispatcher, telnet went back to the
> dark regions of my PC.

Your ISP still allows telnet?  Damn... they're living in the dark
ages, and just begging to be hacked.

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Re: Deleting from Server _after_ downloading and reading

2002-06-20 Thread Thomas F

Hello Jim,

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 09:24:38 -0700 GMT (20/06/02, 23:24 +0700 GMT),
Jim wrote:

J>   So there is no way to do this _without_ the Dispatch Mail feature? I
J>   have used Dispatch Mail before, and it is a clunky interface.

Allow me to disagree. I used to telnet into my account and delete
messages with pine (which is located on the unix server of my ISP),
but when I discovered the Mail Dispatcher, telnet went back to the
dark regions of my PC.

J> Here's a scenario that might help illustrate my interest in a
J> feature like this:

[...]
Ah. The idea is good. Let me compare it a bit to a newsreader with
which you would download only the threads you are interested in. I
don't know whether this would be possible with a mail client, so let's
hear what the experts say.

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Re: Deleting from Server _after_ downloading and reading

2002-06-20 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Jim,

On Thursday, June 20, 2002 at 6:24:38 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

J>   So I want to pop the messages, and thread them in TB, and then
J>   delete the lame threads while keeping the good ones.

You could try activating

'Account' / 'Properties' / 'Mail management' / 'Delete message from server
when it is removed from Trash'

This will delete mail from server when you've deleted them from Trash
locally and fetch your e-mail next time.
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Re[2]: Deleting from Server _after_ downloading and reading

2002-06-20 Thread Jim

On, 6/20/2002, Thomas said:

> Hello Jim,

> On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 09:00:36 -0700 GMT (20/06/02, 23:00 +0700 GMT),
> Jim wrote:

J>>   Could someone give me some pointers on how to _selectively_ delete
J>>   messages from the server after I have popped them at work (leaving a
J>>   copy on the server), read them, and decided I don't want to download
J>>   them again on my home system?

> Sounds like a case for the Mail Dispatcher:
> Account / Despatch Mail on Server / All messages. Mark the ones you
> don't want to download again, and then hit the colourful circle.

  So there is no way to do this _without_ the Dispatch Mail feature? I
  have used Dispatch Mail before, and it is a clunky interface. Here's
  a scenario that might help illustrate my interest in a feature like
  this:

  Let's say that today I get 300 messages total throughout the day
  from various mailing lists, etc. As is the case with far too many
  mailing lists, the signal to noise ratio is pretty lousy, but I
  remain subscribed to many of them for the real gems that come
  through fairly regularly.

  So I want to pop the messages, and thread them in TB, and then
  delete the lame threads while keeping the good ones. So I may see
  80-100 threads and only want to keep 15-20 of them (or about 300
  emails, and want to keep 45-70 of them).

  Viewing the mail in TB and then opening the Dispatch Mail window is
  not especially efficient IMO. I was just wondering if TB had a
  "better way" of doing it than that.  :)

  Thanks, all, for the quick responses.

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Re: Deleting from Server _after_ downloading and reading

2002-06-20 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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> Could someone give me some pointers on how to _selectively_ delete
> messages from the server

Have you looked at "Account | Dispatch mail on server"?

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Re: Deleting from Server _after_ downloading and reading

2002-06-20 Thread Thomas F

Hello Jim,

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 09:00:36 -0700 GMT (20/06/02, 23:00 +0700 GMT),
Jim wrote:

J>   Could someone give me some pointers on how to _selectively_ delete
J>   messages from the server after I have popped them at work (leaving a
J>   copy on the server), read them, and decided I don't want to download
J>   them again on my home system?

Sounds like a case for the Mail Dispatcher:
Account / Despatch Mail on Server / All messages. Mark the ones you
don't want to download again, and then hit the colourful circle.

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Re: Deleting from Server _after_ downloading and reading

2002-06-20 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Thursday, June 20, 2002, Jim wrote...

> Could someone give me some pointers on how to _selectively_ delete
> messages from the server after I have popped them at work (leaving a
> copy on the server), read them, and decided I don't want to download
> them again on my home system?

Account - Dispatch Mail on Server - All Mail (Make sure you have an
account selected, and not a common folder)

You can then select which emails you want to keep/remove on the
server, simplly by selecting, and pressing delete (to remove), or
putting a tick in the "delete" box.

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