Re: Encryption concerns

2013-09-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Robert,

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:33:20 -0400 GMT (10-Sep-13, 00:33 +0700 GMT),
Robert D. wrote:

 It must be clear by now the that US National Security Agency--as well
 as the comparable security agencies in every other civilized country
 in the world--can break all encryption codes and most likely were
 involved in setting up the encryption codes in the first place.

 I would have to see a list of articles verifying that claim.

I believe you are right. I understand from the news articles that they
don't break the codes, but they have backdoors.

 Remember, for one example, that 'Snowden' was using some form of email
 encryption.

Well, he was using professional (secret-level) encryption, not
commercially available make-you-feel-good encryption.

 I use OpenPGP with The Bat!, thus an RSA4096 subset, and seriously
 doubt that, given they didn't get my pass-phrase, they could break
 it in a 100 years or less with distributed computing even.

Really? Have you checked and understood each line of that open-source
code, or do you personally know and trust the people who claim they
did?

 As for being in on the development, it's open source code, available
 to all of us to verify no back doors.

Sure.

 Current German Tech News Moments are saying, in their
 talking-points, that people should begin using GPG4win and other
 OpenPGP .

Why not? As long as it is licenced for export, you can be sure that
the NSA has no problem reading your mails.

Oh wait a minute, I'm wrong here: Governments around the world let
people, i.e. anybody including susptected terrorists, encrypt their
emails because they really don't want to know what they write to each
others. That's because the governments respect your privacy. Gee, I
forgot about this little detail, my apologies.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/

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Encryption concerns

2013-09-09 Thread Mike Greenbaum

Why is everyone so concerned about encrypting their email?

It must be clear by now the that US National Security Agency--as well
as the comparable security agencies in every other civilized country
in the world--can break all encryption codes and most likely were
involved in setting up the encryption codes in the first place.

The good news is that from now on when I forget one of my passwords I
can probably file a request with the NSA and have them send it to me. :)


-- 
Mike 


-- 
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Re: Encryption concerns

2013-09-09 Thread Robert D.
Hello Mike,

Monday, September 9, 2013, 10:57:59 AM, you wrote:

 It must be clear by now the that US National Security Agency--as well
 as the comparable security agencies in every other civilized country
 in the world--can break all encryption codes and most likely were
 involved in setting up the encryption codes in the first place.


I would have to see a list of articles verifying that claim.

Remember, for one example, that 'Snowden' was using some form of email
encryption.

I use OpenPGP with The Bat!, thus an RSA4096 subset, and seriously doubt that, 
given
they didn't get my pass-phrase, they could break it in a 100 years or
less with distributed computing even.

As for being in on the development, it's open source code, available to
all of us to verify no back doors.


Current German Tech News Moments are saying, in their talking-points,
that people should begin using GPG4win and other OpenPGP .


-- 
Best regards,
 Robert



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Re: Encryption concerns - it was meant as humor

2013-09-09 Thread Mike Greenbaum

 Hello Mike,

 Monday, September 9, 2013, 10:57:59 AM, you wrote:

 It must be clear by now the that US National Security Agency--as well
 as the comparable security agencies in every other civilized country
 in the world--can break all encryption codes and most likely were
 involved in setting up the encryption codes in the first place.


 I would have to see a list of articles verifying that claim.

 Remember, for one example, that 'Snowden' was using some form of email
 encryption.

 I use OpenPGP with The Bat!, thus an RSA4096 subset, and seriously doubt 
 that, given
 they didn't get my pass-phrase, they could break it in a 100 years or
 less with distributed computing even.

 As for being in on the development, it's open source code, available to
 all of us to verify no back doors.


 Current German Tech News Moments are saying, in their talking-points,
 that people should begin using GPG4win and other OpenPGP .


What i sent was meant as humor, a joke.

I was not serious.

Mike




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Re: Encryption concerns - it was meant as humor

2013-09-09 Thread Rick
What i sent was meant as humor, a joke. I was not serious.
I got it - they keep my passwords right next to my colonoscopy :D

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Rick
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