Friday the 13th bug?

2001-07-15 Thread Thomas F

Hello TBUDL!

The following happened to me, and I don't have an explanation.
However, I would like to know whether someone has made the same
experience when downloading from Myrealbox with TB.

On Friday in the office, I downloaded my ML stuff (from the account
@myrealbox.com) just fine, leaving mail on server as usual. When I
got home, I couldn't download to my home machine.

Connection Center opened, connected to server, got number of messages,
and started to download message 1/67, 2882 byte. Speed showed 70 cps.
All of 43 bytes of the first message were downloaded, and the download
seemed to hang, but speed still showed 70 cps. This was reproducable
and still is up to now.

During each mail session, TB creates litterally hundreds of files
bat.tmp in the Windows\temp directory, with  being a hex
number in sequence (! - not random as usual). Size of the files is 0.
I just counted: 70 such files were created with the time stamp 15:29
today.

I delete task or abort the ConCenter (after ten minutes or so, still
being at byte 43), and the size of the file to download makes some
weird jumps in the display, 2075 - 3856, 2595 etc for a few seconds
until the ConCenter really shuts down. I can imagine that these are
the sizes of subsequent messages, but don't know.

I connected with the mail despatcher instead, in order to just delete
the first message. The mail despatcher needs a very long time (over 10
minutes) until it shows me a list of headers with the From, subject,
etc information missing (unkown). This is funny because when I try
to download straight, the sender of the first message is actually
shown in the Connection Center.

I tried to delete the first message from server. Take the tickmark off
the receive tickbox but leave it in the delete tickbox. Next time
I try to download messages, the first message is still the same one,
no deletion has happened.

I used the telnet application and connected to the smtp server on port
110, and all went well: LIST showed the message list (only the
message sizes for some reason, but that can be their setup). RETR 1
shows me a listing of the first message, with headers and all. DELE 1
is my command. Then QUIT.

I hit F2 in TB, and TB is again trying to download the same first
message. I has not been deleted.

OK, webmail. I log in to http://myrealbox.com . The newest messages
are shown first, no problem, I read them. I get back to the older
ones, and at almost the last page (each page containing a listing of
10 mails), it hangs again. When the pages downloaded into my browser
very fast, suddenly I nothing moves anymore. I stop download and try
to backtrack or even logout, but my options are down to just closing
IE.

It appears that only messages received on Friday the 13th cause the
problem.

Since the POP protocol does not allow skip the first 15 messages,
and I have no way of deleting them, my only way out was to create a
new account (this one here). I have no problems whatsoever retrieving
incoming messages.

Does anybody have any explanation?

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Re: Friday the 13th bug?

2001-07-15 Thread Don Zeigler

On 7/15/2001,
Thomas F wrote:

 Hello TBUDL!

 The following happened to me, and I don't have an explanation.
 However, I would like to know whether someone has made the same
 experience when downloading from Myrealbox with TB.

I'm no expert, but I think the explanation is a simple one: all Myrealbox
users should have received (I got one Saturday) an email from Myrealbox...
the service was developed as a testing area for new software and hardware,
and they are actively doing both at this time. As a result, there may be
issues with the server being down or very slow, and assorted wierdness when
trying to retrieve, read or send mail through either your deskyop client or
the web interface.
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Re: Friday the 13th bug?

2001-07-15 Thread Thomas F

Hello Don,

On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 09:39:20 -0400 GMT (15/07/2001, 21:39 +0800 GMT),
Don Zeigler wrote:

DZ I'm no expert, but I think the explanation is a simple one: all Myrealbox
DZ users should have received (I got one Saturday) an email from Myrealbox...

That was a day after the problem started, so I haven't downloaded that
mail... but thanks.

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Re: Friday the 13th bug?

2001-07-15 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Thomas,

Sunday, July 15, 2001, 6:09:57 AM, my MUA believes you used
The Bat! (v1.53d) Personal to write:

TF Hello TBUDL!

TF The following happened to me, and I don't have an explanation.
TF However, I would like to know whether someone has made the same
TF experience when downloading from Myrealbox with TB.

TF On Friday in the office, I downloaded my ML stuff (from the account
TF @myrealbox.com) just fine, leaving mail on server as usual. When I
TF got home, I couldn't download to my home machine.

TF Connection Center opened, connected to server, got number of messages,
TF and started to download message 1/67, 2882 byte. Speed showed 70 cps.
TF All of 43 bytes of the first message were downloaded, and the download
TF seemed to hang, but speed still showed 70 cps. This was reproducable
TF and still is up to now.

TF During each mail session, TB creates litterally hundreds of files
TF bat.tmp in the Windows\temp directory, with  being a hex
TF number in sequence (! - not random as usual). Size of the files is 0.
TF I just counted: 70 such files were created with the time stamp 15:29
TF today.

TF I delete task or abort the ConCenter (after ten minutes or so, still
TF being at byte 43), and the size of the file to download makes some
TF weird jumps in the display, 2075 - 3856, 2595 etc for a few seconds
TF until the ConCenter really shuts down. I can imagine that these are
TF the sizes of subsequent messages, but don't know.

TF I connected with the mail despatcher instead, in order to just delete
TF the first message. The mail despatcher needs a very long time (over 10
TF minutes) until it shows me a list of headers with the From, subject,
TF etc information missing (unkown). This is funny because when I try
TF to download straight, the sender of the first message is actually
TF shown in the Connection Center.

TF I tried to delete the first message from server. Take the tickmark off
TF the receive tickbox but leave it in the delete tickbox. Next time
TF I try to download messages, the first message is still the same one,
TF no deletion has happened.

TF I used the telnet application and connected to the smtp server on port
TF 110, and all went well: LIST showed the message list (only the
TF message sizes for some reason, but that can be their setup). RETR 1
TF shows me a listing of the first message, with headers and all. DELE 1
TF is my command. Then QUIT.

TF I hit F2 in TB, and TB is again trying to download the same first
TF message. I has not been deleted.

TF OK, webmail. I log in to http://myrealbox.com . The newest messages
TF are shown first, no problem, I read them. I get back to the older
TF ones, and at almost the last page (each page containing a listing of
TF 10 mails), it hangs again. When the pages downloaded into my browser
TF very fast, suddenly I nothing moves anymore. I stop download and try
TF to backtrack or even logout, but my options are down to just closing
TF IE.

TF It appears that only messages received on Friday the 13th cause the
TF problem.

TF Since the POP protocol does not allow skip the first 15 messages,
TF and I have no way of deleting them, my only way out was to create a
TF new account (this one here). I have no problems whatsoever retrieving
TF incoming messages.

TF Does anybody have any explanation?


Unfortunately, it looks like you have had some of the problems MRB was
expecting during their upgrades.  MRB is actually how Novell is
testing their NIMS product, and they sent out a message during the
week last week (I got one in each of my MRB accounts, but on different
days).  Basically, they are upgrading to the new version which should
have lots of new features, but this will mean potential problems and
unavailability for all of July and possibly part of August (I think
they said 30 days.).

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