Re[2]: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Thursday, September 30, 2004, 11:22:39 PM, you wrote: ASK No you don't. ;-) Caught by the folder template! *veg* You're right, but I've got most of the egg scraped off now! lol! -- Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Friday, October 1, 2004, 12:22:02 AM, you wrote: TN It is not the fault of the folder template, it's the TN reply-to setting of the message plus user's awareness TN to do the right things at the right time... *veg* Yes, and I'm not sure my drive is big enough to put *all* your addies in my ab ... so the risk will continue. But a blunder like that every couple of years or so keeps me on my toes :-) -- Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Leif, Thursday, September 30, 2004, 11:34:35 PM, you wrote: *All* generalizations are false. :grin: My all time favorite undoubtely is A greek man said: all greeks are liars. \\8^) -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Lynn, Friday, October 1, 2004, 2:17:47 AM, you wrote: Am writing off list No you don't. ;-) Caught by the folder template! *veg* -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hæ! Friday, October 1, 2004, 08:22, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Caught by the folder template! *veg* It is not the fault of the folder template, it's the reply-to setting of the message plus user's awareness to do the right things at the right time... *veg* -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Lynn, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:17:47 -0700 GMT (01/10/2004, 07:17 +0700 GMT), Lynn wrote: L Am writing off list, And I guess you're using a folder template? g scnr -- Cheers, Thomas. 13. Los Angeles's full name is El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciuncula and can be abbreviated to 3.63% of its size,L.A. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hallo Thorvald, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 07:53:48 +0200GMT (30-9-2004, 7:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TN Concerning MIDs: Is it safe to assume a valid email does always TN contain a MID? No, it should have a MiID, but some users deliberately set their mail client or server to remove the from their message. They obviously don't care about RFCs, nor do they care about proper threading and such. TN I just saw some SPAM mails do not have a MID. We've seen proper list contributions here without MID, as a consequence the replies didn't thread. When there's a MID lacking, it should be inserted by a receiving mail server, however not all servers do that (and when they do all of them give the same message different MIDs) -- Groetjes, Roelof I think, therefore I cannot be a moderator The Bat! 3.0.1 RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp5VNJnAUk3J.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 30 Sep 2004, @ @ at 07:53:48 +0200, when Thorvald Neumann wrote: Hæ! Concerning MIDs: Is it safe to assume a valid email does always contain a MID? I just saw some SPAM mails do not have a MID. As I understand a newer RFC update(s) concerning MIDs, a MID is desirable, but is not obligatory, for a message to be valid. I can't recall exactly in this moment which RFC refers to this, but if you are interested in I could search through my backups, or someone better informed could drop a note instantly. I didn't see any message having not a MID which was not a spam, so far. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 29 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBW/nf9q62QPd3XuIRAlNBAJ4x1iGa3Yiv9tXNFGgPNGWxgE32bQCdFJn2 xeun3gKES5nSIDiMjo+Dum8= =Gd0b -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hæ! Thursday, September 30, 2004, 14:19, Mica Mijatovic wrote: I didn't see any message having not a MID which was not a spam, so far. Me neither, but I just searched one of my archives with more than 5000 mails and there seem to be around 30 without MIDs. Is it possible to search for messages which *do not* contain a certain search string (let's say Message-Id)? -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Mica, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:19:44 +0200 GMT (30/09/2004, 19:19 +0700 GMT), Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM As I understand a newer RFC update(s) concerning MIDs, a MID is MM desirable, but is not obligatory, for a message to be valid. RFC 2822: Quote 3.6.4. Identification fields Though optional, every message SHOULD have a Message-ID: field. Furthermore, reply messages SHOULD have In-Reply-To: and References: fields as appropriate, as described below. /Quote -- Cheers, Thomas. There is a CD out entitled The Worst of Jefferson Airplane. If you buy this, take it home, play it, and enjoy it, should you take it back and demand a refund? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 30 Sep 2004, @ @ at 15:11:24 +0200, when Thorvald Neumann wrote: Hæ! Thursday, September 30, 2004, 14:19, Mica Mijatovic wrote: I didn't see any message having not a MID which was not a spam, so far. Me neither, but I just searched one of my archives with more than 5000 mails and there seem to be around 30 without MIDs. Is it possible to search for messages which *do not* contain a certain search string (let's say Message-Id)? Probably possible by searching using regexp (F7 / Advanced / Regular expression), but didn't try ever. But how did you find these 30 messages among those 5000 then? (-: -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 29 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hæ! Thursday, September 30, 2004, 16:07, Mica Mijatovic wrote: But how did you find these 30 messages among those 5000 then? (-: I just searched for Message-ID in the header... And the search told me e.g. 5030 and when the archive folder contains 5060 mails, the rest must be without MID. ;) So I just got the number of mails without MID. Hmmmh, perhaps I should just create a filter and refilter the messages... -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Roelof Otten everyone else 30-Sep-2004 09:26, you wrote: I think, therefore I cannot be a moderator LOL! Whats that supposed to mean? :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.1 RC1 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 The trouble with today's individuals is that they're getting harder and harder to tell apart. -- Carl Antczak Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Alexander, Thursday, September 30, 2004, 9:35:17 AM, you wrote: I think, therefore I cannot be a moderator A LOL! Whats that supposed to mean? :-) Probably something similar to some of my taglines! :grin: Moderator (n): See 'glutton for punishment'. Moderator (n): See also - God, tyrant, egotist, oppressor. Moderator dies: .MPG at eleven! Moderator Justification No.1: Because I'm the Moderator; that's why! Moderators: Keep them dry and don't feed them after midnight. Moderators are NOT Gods. Gods have mercy! Modiphobia - Fear of being nagged by a moderator. Scully, have you ever heard of a race called the Moderators? Support lesser lifeforms ... take a moderator to lunch. -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Statistics means never having to say you're certain. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hallo Alexander, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:35:17 +0200GMT (30-9-2004, 17:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: I think, therefore I cannot be a moderator ASK LOL! Whats that supposed to mean? :-) Nothing important really. I've installed an old tagline file (from the days I was still active on chat echos in Fidonet) from over five years ago. And now my sins come back to haunt me. -- Groetjes, Roelof Every person gets to heaven in their own way. The Bat! 3.0.1 RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpnmBb0xDAHM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Thursday, September 30, 2004, 8:52:56 AM, you wrote: LG Probably something similar to some of my taglines! :grin: LG Moderator (n): See 'glutton for punishment'. LG Moderator (n): See also - God, tyrant, egotist, LG oppressor. LG Moderator dies: .MPG at eleven! LG Moderator Justification No.1: Because I'm the LG Moderator; that's why! LG Moderators: Keep them dry and don't feed them after LG midnight. LG Moderators are NOT Gods. Gods have mercy! LG Modiphobia - Fear of being nagged by a moderator. LG Scully, have you ever heard of a race called the LG Moderators? LG Support lesser lifeforms ... take a moderator to lunch. Oooh! Super taglines! Can I use them for t-shirts lol! -- Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Lynn, Thursday, September 30, 2004, 2:05:56 PM, you wrote: L Oooh! Super taglines! Can I use them for t-shirts lol! Here's the thing about taglines. *All* taglines are stolen. and another from my tagline collection... *All* generalizations are false. :grin: Of course you could always check out my site for *TONS* of taglines at: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/taglines/taglines.htm -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Of all the people I've met you're certainly one of them. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Thursday, September 30, 2004, 2:34:35 PM, you wrote: LG Thursday, September 30, 2004, 2:05:56 PM, you wrote: L Oooh! Super taglines! Can I use them for L t-shirts lol! LG Here's the thing about taglines. *All* taglines are LG stolen. LG and another from my tagline collection... LG *All* generalizations are false. :grin: Oooo-Kay ..:-) LG Of course you could always check out my site for *TONS* LG of taglines LG at: LG http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/taglines/taglines.htm Thanks .. I'm not sure I need to know that, but what the hay .. a few more megs won't make much difference! Am writing off list, as I figure this thread is pretty near to 'dead horse' status :-) Cheers! -- Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to filter such a message?
Hæ! How do I filter such messages? Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 24958 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2004 10:18:15 - Received: from unknown ([62.67.200.159]) by ..de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with QMQP; 29 Sep 2004 10:18:15 - Delivered-To: CLUSTERHOST ..de [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 5765 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2004 10:18:15 - Received: from unknown (HELO 10.20.58.6) ([213.172.57.122]) (envelope-sender [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by ..de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 29 Sep 2004 10:18:14 - Received: from 14.56.123.62 by ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:22:18 +0100 Message-ID: R[20-25 Subject: They do not have a subject and a sender. Should I filter on Header does not contain From:? What do I have to use for a blank subject? -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bug! v3.0.0.19 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
Hallo Thorvald, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:28:22 +0200GMT (29-9-2004, 12:28 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Subject: TN They do not have a subject and a sender. TN Should I filter on Header does not contain From:? That's what I should do. TN What do I have to use for a blank subject? Header matches Subject:\s*\n Just a wild guess -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpuPo8LObjll.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
Hæ! Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 12:50, Roelof Otten wrote: Header matches Subject:\s*\n Wouldn't \s*\n also catch Here begins the subject\n? -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bug! v3.0.0.19 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
Hallo Thorvald, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:29:22 +0200GMT (29-9-2004, 13:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Header matches Subject:\s*\n TN Wouldn't \s*\n also catch Here begins the subject\n? I meant to search in headers (not in subject) for the condition Subject:\s*\n and that won't be triggered by your example. Of course it would be triggered by something like this: Subject: Why do we use the header Subject: But when you've got a contact who is so clueless that he uses no From: header (remember our first condition) and ends his subject with a colon, then he deserves no better than being caught by your spamfilter. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpClbafUnwUW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to filter such a message?
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 7:41:02 AM, you wrote: Hallo Thorvald, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:29:22 +0200GMT (29-9-2004, 13:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Header matches Subject:\s*\n TN Wouldn't \s*\n also catch Here begins the subject\n? I meant to search in headers (not in subject) for the condition Subject:\s*\n and that won't be triggered by your example. Of course it would be triggered by something like this: Subject: Why do we use the header Subject: But when you've got a contact who is so clueless that he uses no From: header (remember our first condition) and ends his subject with a colon, then he deserves no better than being caught by your spamfilter. ;-) I know this is most likely not the best way to do this, but this filter worked for me... Sender contains none of @ AND Recipient contains none of @ AND Subject contains none of a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z This works OK... might be better to us a regular expression in the Subject to get all upper and lower case and special chars. -- Best regards, Joe Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 with on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
Hæ! Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 13:41, Roelof Otten wrote: But when you've got a contact who is so clueless that he uses no From: header (remember our first condition) and ends his subject with a colon, then he deserves no better than being caught by your spamfilter. ;-) I am glad those people are not my contacts... ;) Filter active... let's wait and see what happens... ;) -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bug! v3.0.0.19 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 29 Sep 2004, @ @ at 12:28:22 +0200, when Thorvald Neumann wrote: Hæ! How do I filter such messages? Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 24958 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2004 10:18:15 - Received: from unknown ([62.67.200.159]) by ..de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with QMQP; 29 Sep 2004 10:18:15 - Delivered-To: CLUSTERHOST ..de [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 5765 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2004 10:18:15 - Received: from unknown (HELO 10.20.58.6) ([213.172.57.122]) (envelope-sender [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by ..de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 29 Sep 2004 10:18:14 - Received: from 14.56.123.62 by ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:22:18 +0100 Message-ID: R[20-25 Subject: They do not have a subject and a sender. Should I filter on Header does not contain From:? What do I have to use for a blank subject? Interesting part is MID as well. I didn't find any regular MID starting with a letter after , since they start most usually (and perhaps always?) with a digit. The syntax R[ is also characteristic for spammers, and if you'd filter based on it, then you'll get rid of bunch of spam at once. A MID starting with a % is also characteristic. The latter example could be filtered simply, by a MID containing %, while the previous one, R[, would need some regexp. I GUESS (so it should be *checked*, since I am not so good with regexp) that in this case regexp would be in a form any_nondigit[, that is \D\[. Filtering against an empty subject would work also (probably as Roelof suggested) but rare are spam messages using it (and often friends leave this field blank too). - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 28 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBWqVx9q62QPd3XuIRAkIDAKCDW3yTgmgxq3ToGdhal8XNtXab3wCgke0l Ib0p/Qy8Zsxp/E/QXeAe1FY= =uyPb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
Hæ! Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 14:07, Mica Mijatovic wrote: Message-ID: R[20-25 --- SNIP --- Interesting part is MID as well. Yes, I was also stumbling on this. I will watch this over the next days. There was only one occurence in the last 130 spam mails... The latter example could be filtered simply, by a MID containing %, while the previous one, R[, would need some regexp. I GUESS (so it should be *checked*, since I am not so good with regexp) that in this case regexp would be in a form any_nondigit[, that is \D\[. I am not very experienced with RegExp either (I guess it is too abstract for my mind)... Filtering against an empty subject would work also (probably as Roelof suggested) but rare are spam messages using it (and often friends leave this field blank too). That's why I am wanting to filter against an empty subject AND the absence of a from address. Lately, some SPAM mails sneak by having no subject nor from address, and sometimes even no body. Normally my contacts at least use a FROM. ;) -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.0.19 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 29 Sep 2004, @ @ at 14:28:39 +0200, when Thorvald Neumann wrote: Interesting part is MID as well. Yes, I was also stumbling on this. I will watch this over the next days. There was only one occurence in the last 130 spam mails... I have a folder for Punks (junk mail) where I manually add those pearls. And then occasionally, when I get in dirty Harry mode, I make a raid and inspect them for patterns. It worked for me that fine that today I receive about 50:50 spam:regular mail, and almost all this spam is deleted from server. This what I still don't catch is about 2-3 spam letters per day (24 hours), of about 300-400 of regular ones. No one false positive ever. Yet. (I shudder on false positive, and this is the reason I do not use any antispam software.) I am not very experienced with RegExp either (I guess it is too abstract for my mind)... I still can't get with (all) English terms they're defined by, and have no time to experiment practically. Similarly as with English math terms. These expert terms in general are my weak side. But nothing hurts that much as expert terms applied in cocking. If I can't find a term for garlic and am using onion instead, or am mixing roasting, frying, baking, and boiling and stewing - that's a REAL pain. This way you might get a real mess for lunch. It hurts... Which reminds me that I have to go for the liver pasta now... It's good with ajvar/AJBAP. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 28 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBWs749q62QPd3XuIRAidsAJ9v8pNsf6ZMs8QVqFNIHriHJedUjgCgjuxz /Q/TzpJ0LoPEOMQkJhnSeS4= =qNWP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
Hello Mica, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:04:25 +0200 GMT (29/09/2004, 22:04 +0700 GMT), Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM Which reminds me that I have to go for the liver pasta now... It's good MM with ajvar/AJBAP. http://faq.macedonia.org/cuisine/ajvar.html http://www.recipeland.com/recipe/82/ Sounds good. :-) Except liver pasta: I don't usually eat things from inside the body. And especially not the liver, which is the filter that keeps all the poison from circulating in the body, but storing a lot of them instead of passing them on to the kidneys. So you get to eat the accumulated does of those poisons by eating liver. What a treat. f'up2tbot -- Cheers, Thomas. Tuesday at 4:00 PM there will be an ice cream social. All ladies giving milk will please come early. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
On Wed 29-Sep-04 6:29am -0400, Thorvald Neumann wrote: Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 12:50, Roelof Otten wrote: Header matches Subject:\s*\n Wouldn't \s*\n also catch Here begins the subject\n? Indeed it would. A better choice might be: Header field - Subject - match - ^\s*$ Not only does this match empty or blank Subject lines, it also matches mails without a Subject line. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Pro - BayesIt! 0.6.10 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
Hæ! Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 20:22, Bill McCarthy wrote: Header field - Subject - match - ^\s*$ Thanks, I will try it. :) Why are RegExp so cryptical... ;) -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hæ! Concerning MIDs: Is it safe to assume a valid email does always contain a MID? I just saw some SPAM mails do not have a MID. -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html