Re: How to uninstal The Bat 1.x?

2006-09-25 Thread Mary Cassidy
Mark Wieder wrote:
 
> What symptoms are you having when the computer "won't shut down
> properly"?

When I shut down the computer, Windows 2000 goes through the usual
procedure, saying it's saving my settings, then that Windows is closing
down.

Then, instead of closing down normally and giving me the "No signal"
message, it just hangs, on a blackish (teal?) screen with a white cursor
flashing at the top left.

The only way to shut down is to switch off with the on-off switch, because
ALT-CTRL-CANC won't work.

However, if I reboot in Safe Mode, it does shut down properly.

I don't suppose The Bat is responsible either, but the guy who installed the
new hard disc said to try uninstalling and reinstalling everything to see if
that fixed the problem.

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Re: How to uninstal The Bat 1.x?

2006-09-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Mary-

Saturday, September 23, 2006, 5:40:31 AM, you wrote:

> I recently had to get a new hard drive, and I'm now having problems with it,
> because Windows 2000 won't shut down properly.

I'm running a similar vintage TB on Windows 2k, as you can see from my
signature. While I sometimes have trouble shutting down TB because
it's locked up waiting for the Connection Center to finish whatever
it's doing, it's never interfered with Windows shutting down. And this
is over several years on multiple computers. I'd seriously doubt that
TB is to blame for the system problems, especially if you're not
launching it explicitly. There aren't any processes running in the
background to interfere with Windows operation.

What symptoms are you having when the computer "won't shut down
properly"?

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Re: How to uninstal The Bat 1.x?

2006-09-23 Thread Chris W .

Jernej Simonèiè @ 2006-9-23 7:53:27 AM
"How to uninstal The Bat 1.x?" 

> Anyway, if Windows doesn't shut down properly, it can't be The Bat's (or any
> other program's that doesn't install kernel-mode drivers) fault. I would
> suggest you to scan your computer for spyware, which could cause the
> problems you're having (use at least SpyBot S&D and AdAware, and if possible
> SpySweeper).

Not true. When the windowing station is shutting down, all running
applications receive a message as such. Well behaved applications
ensure that they can be shutdown and terminate themselves. However,
since some application may not be in a clean state for shutdown (e.g.,
a word processor with unsaved documents), an application can tell
Windows to abort the shutdown.

Poorly or maliciously programmed applications can halt the shutdown
for no reason by responding to the shutdown message appropriately.

In newer versions of Windows (Windows Vista, I believe), this vector
has been reduced by only allowing applications to delay, but not halt,
a shutdown or log-off.

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Re: How to uninstal The Bat 1.x?

2006-09-23 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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   @  @  at 14:40:31 +0200, when Mary Cassidy wrote:

> I recently had to get a new hard drive, and I'm now having problems with it,
> because Windows 2000 won't shut down properly.

> The guy who installed the hard drive said something must have gone wrong
> with one of the programs I installed after he delivered it, and to try
> uninstalling and reinstalling them.

> I've done a virus scan with AVG in safe mode, but it didn't find anything.

> I've uninstalled most of the programs, but I can't work out how to uninstal
> The Bat.

> I have version 1.60h, and according to the Help file, I should uninstall it
> from the Add/Remove programs part of the Windows Control Panel, but it isn't
> there.

> When I reinstalled it, I didn't go through Add/Remove programs - I just
> double-clicked on thebat.exe .

> Can anyone suggest how I should uninstal it? I could just delete the folder,
> but I assume that'll leave stuff in the Registry.


It will, yes. Open Registry (start|run|regedit) and go to the folder...

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\rit\

...and delete entire \rit folder.

   *

If you want though to {pre|con}serve your settings, then before the
deletion save/export the related registry file (select the \rit folder,
then Registry | Export Registry File...).

   *

If you want to install TB again at the same place/position/path (eg.
C:\Program Files\The Bat!), then just compress/copy entire \The Bat!
folder and export its registry file.

Then the new installation would consist of just extracting/copying \The
Bat! folder to the previous place, and then of running the registry
file.

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Re: How to uninstal The Bat 1.x?

2006-09-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mary,

On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:40:31 +0200 GMT (23/09/2006, 19:40 +0700 GMT),
Mary Cassidy wrote:

MC> Can anyone suggest how I should uninstal it? I could just delete the folder,
MC> but I assume that'll leave stuff in the Registry.

True. The stuff left in the registry is under HKCU/Software/RIT.
Delete that key after you delete the folder, and you should be fine.

I think. Please wait for others to agree or disagree with my advice
before doing anything.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

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tomorrow or past to the--to the back! --V.P. Dan Quayle.
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Re: How to uninstal The Bat 1.x?

2006-09-23 Thread Jernej Simonèiè
On Saturday, September 23, 2006, 14:40:31, Mary Cassidy wrote:

> When I reinstalled it, I didn't go through Add/Remove programs - I just
> double-clicked on thebat.exe .

If you didn't run the installer, there won't be any entry in Add/Remove
Programs, since you didn't install anything.

Anyway, if Windows doesn't shut down properly, it can't be The Bat's (or any
other program's that doesn't install kernel-mode drivers) fault. I would
suggest you to scan your computer for spyware, which could cause the
problems you're having (use at least SpyBot S&D and AdAware, and if possible
SpySweeper).

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How to uninstal The Bat 1.x?

2006-09-23 Thread Mary Cassidy
I recently had to get a new hard drive, and I'm now having problems with it,
because Windows 2000 won't shut down properly.

The guy who installed the hard drive said something must have gone wrong
with one of the programs I installed after he delivered it, and to try
uninstalling and reinstalling them.

I've done a virus scan with AVG in safe mode, but it didn't find anything.

I've uninstalled most of the programs, but I can't work out how to uninstal
The Bat.

I have version 1.60h, and according to the Help file, I should uninstall it
from the Add/Remove programs part of the Windows Control Panel, but it isn't
there. 

When I reinstalled it, I didn't go through Add/Remove programs - I just
double-clicked on thebat.exe .

Can anyone suggest how I should uninstal it? I could just delete the folder,
but I assume that'll leave stuff in the Registry.

Regards,
Mary 
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