Re: IMAP and spam

2004-01-25 Thread ken green
Steve Thomas wrote:
> Did it find any spam?  I don't think that the folder was created until
> it actually discovered some spam.


Interesting... That would make sense.. ;)  I created a top-level
spamtrap folder anyway.

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Re: IMAP and spam

2004-01-25 Thread Steve Thomas
Hello ken,

Sunday, January 25, 2004, 3:06:24 PM, you wrote:

kg> However, I don't see the inbox.spamtrap folder that was supposed to get
kg> created.


Did it find any spam?  I don't think that the folder was created until
it actually discovered some spam.

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Re: IMAP and spam

2004-01-25 Thread ken green
Steve Thomas wrote:
>   Just follow the same instructions as with POP.  Set your Transport
>   settings as follows:


I have SpamPal set up and it seems to be working.  My first try resulted
in connection/login problems, but I was using SpamPal 1.50.  When I
upgraded to the most recent version (1.53), the connection problems went
away.

However, I don't see the inbox.spamtrap folder that was supposed to get
created.  I have shut down and restarted The Bat, tried synching all
folders, showing all folders... still no inbox.spamtrap folder.

Should I just create that?  I just now verified that this doesn't seem
like a TB problem - I just checked the account via IMAP web interface
and that folder is not there.

Advice?

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Re: IMAP and spam

2004-01-25 Thread Steve Thomas
Hello ken,

Sunday, January 25, 2004, 1:36:17 PM, you wrote:

kg> I know you are having trouble with IMAP in general :(

  "Having trouble" is too broad an expression.  It works.  I just get
  those occasional access violations, which occur occasionally when
  using the "Manage IMAP Folders" function.


kg> but would you
kg> mind posting any relevant details/hints/instructions for setting up
kg> SpamPal in The Bat using IMAP?

  Just follow the same instructions as with POP.  Set your Transport
  settings as follows:

  SMTP Server:  127.0.0.1 (Provided you've set SpamPal up to process
  outgoing mail - see below)
  Mail Server:  127.0.0.1
  User: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  SpamPal is pre-configured to process IMAP mail to port 143.  Make
  sure that you have the latest version of SpamPal.

  Also, check the instructions on the SpamPal site:
  http://www.spampal.org/usermanual/clients/bat/bat.html




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Re: IMAP and spam

2004-01-25 Thread ken green
ken green wrote:
> I know you are having trouble with IMAP in general :(  but would you
> mind posting any relevant details/hints/instructions for setting up
> SpamPal in The Bat using IMAP?


Sorry.  Please disregard.  I was thinking of something else.  Spampal
claims to work with POP or IMAP accounts.  I stopped using it before
because I didn't like the changing of subject lines (for false
positives).  I have since seen that you can disable this and filter on
the SpamPal header entry.

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Re: IMAP and spam

2004-01-25 Thread ken green
Steve Thomas wrote:
> Spampal automatically set-up an IMAP
> folder called inbox.spamtrap.  All the suggested spam goes in there. I
> found that to be very interesting.


Did you do anything different when setting this up?  Or was the only
different in The Bat! that it's using the IMAP protocol?

I know you are having trouble with IMAP in general :(  but would you
mind posting any relevant details/hints/instructions for setting up
SpamPal in The Bat using IMAP?

Thanks.

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Re[2]: IMAP and spam

2004-01-25 Thread Allie Martin
Steve Thomas, [ST] wrote:

ST> I've never been a big "beta" person - though it seems that even
ST> published releases for TB are "beta-like."

ST> But, if you'll kindly repeat how to get it, I'll give it a try.

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Re: IMAP and spam

2004-01-25 Thread Steve Thomas
Hello Allie,

Sunday, January 25, 2004, 3:35:11 AM, you wrote:

AM> This has been fixed for the next release. You could wait for the next
AM> release or download and try the latest beta, then tell us what you think
AM> on TBBETA.


I've never been a big "beta" person - though it seems that even
published releases for TB are "beta-like."

But, if you'll kindly repeat how to get it, I'll give it a try.

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Re[2]: IMAP and spam

2004-01-25 Thread Allie Martin
Steve Thomas, [ST] wrote:

ST> Yea, and deleted and re-added several times. I've also deleted all
ST> folders from the server and started over a couple of times - just as
ST> a part of the learning process.

ST> I still get access violations from time to time - no rhyme or reason
ST> that I can see at this point.

Yeah. Those still tend to occur when deleting and creating folders using
the "Manage IMAP folders". There's no real pattern either.

ST> The main thing that bugs me right now is that there is no way to
ST> automatically compress folders on IMAP.  The "compress folders on
ST> exit" doesn't work with IMAP.

This has been fixed for the next release. You could wait for the next
release or download and try the latest beta, then tell us what you think
on TBBETA.

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Re: IMAP and spam

2004-01-24 Thread Steve Thomas
Hello ken,

Saturday, January 24, 2004, 6:16:53 PM, you wrote:

kg> Is that IMAP account created from scratch?


Yea, and deleted and re-added several times.   I've also deleted all
folders from the server and started over a couple of times - just as a
part of the learning process.

I still get access violations from time to time - no rhyme or reason
that I can see at this point.

The main thing that bugs me right now is that there is no way to
automatically compress folders on IMAP.  The "compress folders on
exit" doesn't work with IMAP.

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Re: IMAP and spam

2004-01-24 Thread ken green
Steve Thomas wrote:
> I've been testing Spampal with TB and IMAP.  I've got several POP
> accounts and one test IMAP account, all running through Spampal
> (127.0.0.1).  So far, so good.  Spampal automatically set-up an IMAP
> folder called inbox.spamtrap.  All the suggested spam goes in there. I
> found that to be very interesting.


Interesting I was under the impression that Spampal was POP only.

Sorry to hear about your access violations with IMAP - that definitely
is a problem.  Is that IMAP account created from scratch?

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Re: IMAP and spam

2004-01-24 Thread Steve Thomas
Hello ken,

Saturday, January 24, 2004, 5:54:39 PM, you wrote:

kg> I know that both Spampal and K9 appear to be popular spamkill programs,
kg> but they are for POP3 servers (as are most client-side spam filters).

kg> What do people use for IMAP-based accounts?


I've been testing Spampal with TB and IMAP.  I've got several POP
accounts and one test IMAP account, all running through Spampal
(127.0.0.1).  So far, so good.  Spampal automatically set-up an IMAP
folder called inbox.spamtrap.  All the suggested spam goes in there. I
found that to be very interesting.

I have no filters set-up on the IMAP account.

My main complaint is the frequent access violations I get with TB's
IMAP implementation.  Every time I get one, I need to close TB and
reopen to get IMAP working again.

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IMAP and spam

2004-01-24 Thread ken green
I know that both Spampal and K9 appear to be popular spamkill programs,
but they are for POP3 servers (as are most client-side spam filters).

What do people use for IMAP-based accounts?

I do have the ability to enable Spam Assasin at the server level, which
may be my answer. Any recommendations/suggestions/etc.?

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