Re: Mail Filter Problems

2006-05-12 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Tim,

On Thu, 11 May 2006 18:50:50 -0700GMT (12-5-2006, 3:50 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

 That's because those messages trigger your anti spam plug-in
TH That's my point... what kind of intelligence is that? The whole point
TH in setting mailbox filters is so TB does not see these as junk mail. Any
TH preset mailbox filter should override any other filter in TB.

I have to disagree on that. It regularly happens to me that I'm
receiving spam via non-moderated mailing lists. I like it very much
for those messages, that they're not processed by the matching mailing
list, but that they're excluded before that filter catches on.

Same goes for virus messages. I don't care who's name is in the from
header, I want that message in my quarantine folder and not somewhere
else.

TH Maybe the developers could look at this for future builds.

There is a solution for your problem. So don't use an anti-spam
plug-in, but you have to use an anti-spam proxy. Pick one that has the
ability to include an extra header in stead of mangling the subject
header. Now you can create a filter that checks against that header,
but as it is a normal filter, you can set its precedence by its
location in your order of filters.

Furthermore I think that when you're encountering lots of false
positives (I've had that only once with a properly trained filter)
that you need to train your filter when you encounter them. Even now
that it's almost a year ago that I got a false positive I check my
spam folder daily (or at least once every two days.)

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Re: Mail Filter Problems

2006-05-12 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Roelof,

On Fri, 12 May 2006 10:46:20 +0200GMT (12-5-2006, 10:46 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RO that they're not processed by the matching mailing list, but
   ^
 filter

Apparently my mind was faster (maybe I should say 'less slow') than my
fingers and I omitted a word.

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Re[2]: Mail Filter Problems

2006-05-12 Thread Tim Hamm
Hello Roelof,

Friday, May 12, 2006, 1:46:20 AM, you wrote:

 There is a solution for your problem. So don't use an anti-spam
 plug-in, but you have to use an anti-spam proxy.

Do you think it has anything to do with the fact that I am using AGAVA
AntiSpamServant 2.1.6? Do you think I'd have better results if I used
Bayes instead?

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Mail Filter Problems

2006-05-11 Thread Tim Hamm
Hello TBUDL,

  On certain occasions I'm finding mail that I have created filters
  for in my Junk folder. TB has been doing this on and off for some
  time now... Anyone have any insight on this?

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Re: Mail Filter Problems

2006-05-11 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Tim,

On Thu, 11 May 2006 11:53:07 -0700GMT (11-5-2006, 20:53 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

TH   On certain occasions I'm finding mail that I have created filters
TH   for in my Junk folder. TB has been doing this on and off for some
TH   time now... Anyone have any insight on this?

That's because those messages trigger your anti spam plug-in and mail
processed by your anti spam or anti virus plug-ins won't be processed
by your sorting office.

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Re[2]: Mail Filter Problems

2006-05-11 Thread Tim Hamm
Hello Roelof,

Thursday, May 11, 2006, 2:51:38 PM, you wrote:

 That's because those messages trigger your anti spam plug-in

That's my point... what kind of intelligence is that? The whole point
in setting mailbox filters is so TB does not see these as junk mail. Any
preset mailbox filter should override any other filter in TB. Maybe
the developers could look at this for future builds.

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