Re: Mailinglists that don't set reply-to

2002-06-28 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Thomas F [TF] wrote:

TF Then I don't understand the question. crtl-enter works fine here for
TF replies to the list.

For lists messages that include the list address in the reply-to
header this is true. We're not referring to such list messages. You
need to review the thread, especially the initial message that started
it.

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Re: Mailinglists that don't set reply-to

2002-06-27 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Luigi,

@27 June 2002, 07:04:39 +0200 (06:04 UK time) Luigi Rosa in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Maurice
Snellen:

MS Does anyone have a killer solution to handle mailinglists which don't
MS use the Reply-To: header to direct replies back to the list?

 You filter the messages to a single folder, then in the Reply template of
 that folder you put this:

 %TO=%TO=List Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This advice cannot be given without issuing the standard health
warning! ;-)

stock lecture
I have a pet hate in TB. That pet hate is named Folder Templates. In
150 folders I have two and only two that have folder templates. They
are for two specific lists which don't set the reply address properly.

There is nothing else for which folder templates can be used that
can't be covered and even improved upon using Address Book templates.
There are dangers in using Folder Templates that are not there when
you use AB templates.

The dangers are all complacency based and are at their worst in
templates which use the %TO= macro. If, at the instant you start a
new message you happen to be focused on the wrong folder, the message
gets given the wrong address. This happens when you click a mailto
without changing folders. The results vary from embarrassing to
excruciating depending upon the content of the misdirected mail.

BTW - another mistake in such templates is to use the construct
%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] without a %TO='' before it. So any
pre-existing addresses are retained.
/stock lecture

Having said all that, folder templates are the only answer. Make sure
that you only define folder reply templates though and use the address
book templates for new messages.

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Re: Mailinglists that don't set reply-to

2002-06-27 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Marck,

My MUA believes you used Ritlabs SecureBat! (v1.60q)
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 4:49:49 AM.

MDP BTW - another mistake in such templates is to use the construct
MDP %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] without a %TO='' before it. So any
MDP pre-existing addresses are retained.

I use a Quick Template to do the same thing (had lots of problems
using a folder template...), but it also clears %CC=''

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| %TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%CC=
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Re: Mailinglists that don't set reply-to

2002-06-27 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Marck,

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 09:49:49 +0100GMT (27-6-02, 10:49 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

 %TO=%TO=List Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MDP This advice cannot be given without issuing the standard health
MDP warning! ;-)

Why not something like this:

%If:%ToAddr=:%To='[EMAIL PROTECTED]':%-

I don't know why checking for %To= doesn't work, but the above
does.

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Re: Mailinglists that don't set reply-to

2002-06-27 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Roelof,

On Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 16:33 GMT +0200, a creature mimicking
Roelof Otten [RO] wrote:

 %TO=%TO=List Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MDP This advice cannot be given without issuing the standard health
MDP warning! ;-)

RO Why not something like this:

RO %If:%ToAddr=:%To='[EMAIL PROTECTED]':%-

That only works in a new message template.  In a reply, the To field
will be filled in, and so you'll never replace the address.

RO I don't know why checking for %To= doesn't work,

The one you're looking for is %TOLIST


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Mailinglists that don't set reply-to

2002-06-26 Thread Maurice Snellen

Listmembers,

Does anyone have a killer solution to handle mailinglists which don't
use the Reply-To: header to direct replies back to the list? I just
recently joined a few lists that are running on ezmlm which doesn't do
this by default (I always modify that behaviour), and 'reply-to-all'
includes the 'Sender:' address as well which means I always end up
editing the To: and CC: manually to fix things. Moreover, the nicely
looking 'Peter Rabbit on SOMELIST [EMAIL PROTECTED]' To: that
I get on lists with 'reply-to' because of my templates also doesn't
work for these lists.

Is there a way to fix this? (short of asking them to add the reply-to
which they probably won't do because I guess they're the ppl who are
fans of that well-known article that argues that adding/modifying the
reply-to in list-messages is 'evil')

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Re: Mailinglists that don't set reply-to

2002-06-26 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El miércoles 26 de junio de 2002, 20.12, Maurice Snellen decía:

MS Is there a way to fix this? (short of asking them to add the reply-to
MS which they probably won't do because I guess they're the ppl who are
MS fans of that well-known article that argues that adding/modifying the
MS reply-to in list-messages is 'evil')

what article are you talking about?

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