Re[2]: Message submitted to 'tbudl'

2002-07-18 Thread Terry G. Munson

Hi Marck

On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Marck wrote the following on the subject Message 
submitted to 'tbudl'

 Here's what you did wrong - and I'll make it public so that everyone
 can see that it doesn't work to say Well, I use folder templates all
 the time and they always work well for me.

 stock lecture

IS there a quick (easy) way to disable the folder templates?

Thanks,

Terry


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Re: Message submitted to 'tbudl'

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Meyns

Hi Terry,

on Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:43:54 -0700GMT (18.07.02, 16:43 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

TGM IS there a quick (easy) way to disable the folder templates?

Yes, there is. Open folder properties -- reply -- delete the content --
press enter. :-)

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Re: Message submitted to 'tbudl'

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Peter,

On Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 5:06:39 PM you wrote in
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PM Yes, there is. Open folder properties -- reply -- delete the content --
PM press enter. :-)

And have a blank line in template and still the dialog opened *G*

Use 'OK' button instead of enter and you're really done :-)
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Re[2]: Message submitted to 'tbudl'

2002-07-17 Thread Terry G. Munson

Hi Marck

On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Marck wrote the following on the subject Message 
submitted to 'tbudl'
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 Hi Terry,

 There is a problem with this message to the list. It didn't make it
 there. It was intercepted by the server for us to look at because:

 Failed administrivia check on pattern '^unsubscribe$'

 To unsubscribe, follow the instructions in 1) the welcome message you
 got when you joined, 2) the monthly mission statement 3) the FAQ or 4)
 every message sent out by the list!! ;-). 5) If all else fails, send a
 message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wait for the
 Confirm response. Reply to that. That should do it.


I don't know what I did wrong...since I just clicked on the
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; that is on
every message sent out by the list!! ;-) ...but I am sure that I
screwed up somewhere.

I will follow your advice.

Thanks,

Terry


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Re: Message submitted to 'tbudl'

2002-07-17 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Terry,

@17 July 2002, 12:35 -0700 (20:35 UK time)  Terry G. Munson [T] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck on TBUDL:

T I don't know what I did wrong...since I just clicked on the
T Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; that is on
T every message sent out by the list!! ;-) ...but I am sure that I
T screwed up somewhere.

T I will follow your advice.

Here's what you did wrong - and I'll make it public so that everyone
can see that it doesn't work to say Well, I use folder templates all
the time and they always work well for me.

stock lecture
I have a pet hate in TB. That pet hate is named Folder Templates. In
150 folders I have two and only two that have folder templates. They
are for two specific lists which don't set the reply address properly.

There is nothing else for which folder templates can be used that
can't be covered and even improved upon using Address Book templates.
There are dangers in using Folder Templates that are not there when
you use AB templates.

The dangers are all complacency based and are at their worst in
templates which use the %TO= macro. If, at the instant you start a
new message you happen to be focused on the wrong folder, the message
gets given the wrong address. This happens when you click a mailto
without changing folders. The results vary from embarrassing to
excruciating depending upon the content of the misdirected mail.

BTW - another mistake in such templates is to use the construct
%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] without a %TO='' before it. So any
pre-existing addresses are retained.

Back to the lecture: every time I say this, someone takes exception to
something I've said with comments like 'danger' is a bit harsh or
I've used Folder templates for ages and it's never gone wrong for
me.

Here's a fact for you: it goes wrong. That's why I'm writing this
message yet again.

It works exactly as designed and that design has a fundamental flaw.
The flaw is that it places too much responsibility on the user to make
sure that the addresses given on a new message are those intended.

With address book templates, there is never a mistake of this kind.
Replies are perfectly directed. New messages are a bit trickier.
Instead of clicking to the folder then clicking for a new message, you
have to click to the right of the new message button and select the
list address from the favourites (having denoted that the address *is*
a favourite in the address book).
/stock lecture

You have a TBUDL folder that has folder templates that are killing
your ability to target a message to anywhere but the list from that
folder. Please use AB templates for everything you possibly can. It
will save facial egg removal issues every time.

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