Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello Allie Thank you for your email dated Monday, December 22, 2003, 4:50:42 PM, in which you wrote: WM Then I just reinstall TB, enter my registration key, copy the WM backed-up data files to where-ever I decide in the new (usually WM different) directory structure, reflect this using WM Options/Preferences/System/Mail directory and carry on as before. AM I assume you lost a lot of your general configuration options and had AM to do some reconfiguring? Nothing that's obvious but I tend not to deviate too much from the vanilla version anyway. Certainly all the account/folder structures, filters, editor preferences, colour groups etc. are still in place. Everything (except the 'The Bat' directory created at installation, which is on the C: system partition) is in one big directory in a different partition. This partition doesn't always have the same label; in the past I've moved from one a one-drive system to one with two drives and most recently back to one with one large drive. The only constant is that I've always kept the OS and programs on the same (separate) partition. Surely I'm not the only one to do this? -- Regards William http://www.residues.info and http://www.magiric.com Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
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Re[2]: Moving The Bat to a new PC
William Moore wrote: WM Then I just reinstall TB, enter my registration key, copy the WM backed-up data files to where-ever I decide in the new (usually WM different) directory structure, reflect this using WM Options/Preferences/System/Mail directory and carry on as before. Ok. WM It's always worked for me; in fact, this is what I do with *all* WM similar software when upgrading. I assume you lost a lot of your general configuration options and had to do some reconfiguring? -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com ___..__ SecureBat! Lite v2.02.8 CE · WinXP Pro SP1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello Tony Thank you for your email dated Saturday, December 20, 2003, 7:58:42 PM, in which you wrote: TB If you managed to move to a new PC without touching the registry and you TB didn't have to do any setting up then you was more than lucky. When I first installed TB! I kept all the data files in a different directory from the program. Before any re-installation (changing from W98SE to W2k Pro, adding a new HDD, completely re-building the PC or just re-installing the OS) all I've done is copied all data (messages, accounts etc. but never registry files) to CD, using whatever CD writing software is my 'flavour of the month'. Then I just reinstall TB, enter my registration key, copy the backed-up data files to where-ever I decide in the new (usually different) directory structure, reflect this using Options/Preferences/System/Mail directory and carry on as before. It's always worked for me; in fact, this is what I do with *all* similar software when upgrading. -- Regards William http://www.residues.info and http://www.magiric.com Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving The Bat to a new PC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sunday, December 21, 2003/8:45:38 AM RE: Moving The Bat to a new PC Greetings Tony, On Saturday, December 20, 2003, 2:58:42 PM, you wrote: TB If you managed to move to a new PC without touching the registry and you TB didn't have to do any setting up then you was more than lucky. Yes Tony, I would say he just performed the world's most recent miracle. Anyway ... - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Welcome to the Church of the Holy Cabbage. Lettuce pray... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0x839F51C7 Comment: Fingerprint: 3ACA 8299 2605 96B7 98FB D71E F8C9 F22C 839F 51C7 iQA/AwUBP+WkTfjJ8iyDn1HHEQJaRQCfRhnffvLODjiUHpVtPp9ATVmNzF0An3FY sWVo/YZ+VJlkG46bSKtYv6He =ZxpF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving The Bat to a new PC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sunday, December 21, 2003/8:50:57 AM RE: Moving The Bat to a new PC Greetings Adam, On Saturday, December 20, 2003, 12:30:12 PM, you wrote: A Note that if you transfer from one operating system to another, you A need to export the right kind of registry file that will suit the A other machine. So, do take note in that case. At least with Windows 98 A vs. Windows 2000. A I'm not sure about Windows XP. It has something called registry hive. A No idea what that is. Registry Hives (From Microsoft's Knowledge Base) A hive is a group of keys, subkeys, and values in the registry that has a set of supporting files containing backups of its data. The setup phase of the Windows boot process automatically retrieves data from these supporting files. You can also retrieve data manually using the Import Registry File menu item of the Registry Editor (Regedit.exe). When you shut down Windows, the operating system automatically writes the hive data to the supporting files. You can also back up the hive data manually using the Export Registry File menu item of the Registry Editor. Win2k also utilizes hives as is apparent by it's option to boot into the Last Known Good Configuration. Anyway ... - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr.®© How does Avon find so many women willing to take orders? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0x839F51C7 Comment: Fingerprint: 3ACA 8299 2605 96B7 98FB D71E F8C9 F22C 839F 51C7 iQA/AwUBP+WmMvjJ8iyDn1HHEQJcywCg0WROtyAs+wXf/gOjyp3+D9ZwYhsAoLTy 2iGWLgzvxIQvI0xUEuLHKIAJ =0HcA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello DG, On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 08:55:00 -0500 GMT (21/12/2003, 20:55 +0700 GMT), DG Raftery Sr.®© wrote: Win2k also utilizes hives as is apparent by it's option to boot into the Last Known Good Configuration. There is a good configuration? scnr -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Infant Grows Sideburns During Visit to Graceland Message reply created with The Bat! 2.02.3 CE under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello DG Thank you for your email dated Sunday, December 21, 2003, 1:46:56 PM, in which you wrote: DRS Yes Tony, I would say he just performed the world's most recent miracle. More than once, too! -- Regards William http://www.residues.info and http://www.magiric.com Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello William,
A reminder of what William Moore typed on:
21 December 2003 at 19:20:17 GMT +
WM More than once, too!
But not without entering any registry info, that's for sure.
--
Best regards,Tony.
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Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello Tony Thank you for your email dated Sunday, December 21, 2003, 7:23:33 PM, in which you wrote: TB A reminder of what William Moore typed on: TB 21 December 2003 at 19:20:17 GMT + WM More than once, too! TB But not without entering any registry info, that's for sure. Apart from running clean-up apps, I've never, ever, touched the registry for any reason. I've looked at it a couple of times but that's all I've ever done. I've never needed to (so I've never bothered to learn how to) in the five or so years I've had a PC. -- Regards William http://www.residues.info and http://www.magiric.com Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
On Sunday, December 21, 2003 at 9:30:43 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote in the message Moving The Bat to a new PC mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Win2k also utilizes hives as is apparent by it's option to boot into the Last Known Good Configuration. There is a good configuration? Yes. It is the last one that booted. Whether you consider that one good it really up to you... -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Notice in health food shop window: CLOSED DUE TO ILLNESS Using The Bat! v2.02 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Thomas- Sunday, December 21, 2003, 6:30:43 AM, you wrote: TF There is a good configuration? rotfl (and spewing coffee all over my keyboard) TF scnr scnr? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello, The time has come for me to abandon my trusty old PC and get a new one. One of my major worries is how to transfer my email base to the new PC. It's almost certain that the directory on the new PC where The Bat will be installed will be on a different drive than the one where I have it installed now. Also, I would like to install my mail database on a different drive rather than within The Bat program directory. The simple question to ask is: How do I move my mail database to the new PC given the above conditions? I hope that the suggested solutions are just as simple! -- Best regards, Costas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hi Costas, on Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:07:49 +0200GMT (20.12.03, 15:07 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : CP The simple question to ask is: How do I move my mail database to the CP new PC given the above conditions? I hope that the suggested solutions CP are just as simple! Yes, indeed. Move your mail folder to a RAR or ZIP archive and burn it on CD. Then you can unpack it wherever you want. -- Cheers Peter The notion that this is mostly about sex is nonsense. The vast majority of our customers have little or no interest in it. ~ Steve Case, founder and chairman of AOL Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
On Saturday, December 20, 2003, 15:07:49, Costas Papadopoulos wrote: The simple question to ask is: How do I move my mail database to the new PC given the above conditions? I hope that the suggested solutions are just as simple! This is how I did it, when I upgraded my system: - RAR (or ZIP, or whatever) your complete Mail directory - start Registry Editor, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Rit and export the complete branch - install The Bat on your new machine, but don't create any accounts - unrar your mail directory wherever you'd like to keep it - import the registry file - open Registry Editor again, and go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Rit\The Bat. Double-click the Working Directory key, and change the path to where your mail directory is stored -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ When working toward the solution of a problem, it always helps if you know the answer. -- Rule of Accuracy Corollary - Provided, of course, that you know there is a problem. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello Peter, Saturday, December 20, 2003, 5:06:09 PM, you wrote: PM Yes, indeed. Move your mail folder to a RAR or ZIP archive and burn it PM on CD. Then you can unpack it wherever you want. Is that cannot be done with Backup / Restore? -- Best regards, Zeynel Abidin Öztürkmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Translation of Turkish The Bat! Using The Bat! v2.03.10 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hi Zeynel, on Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:30:22 +0200GMT (20.12.03, 16:30 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PM Yes, indeed. Move your mail folder to a RAR or ZIP archive and burn it PM on CD. Then you can unpack it wherever you want. ZAÖ Is that cannot be done with Backup / Restore? Probably. I haven't tried it for a long time. I've been using the RAR method for backups for quite a while, and I find it a very easy and comprehensible way. I use it for backing up my other directories too instead of Windows' implemented backup. Thanks to a batch file provided by Allie Martin on TBBeta, my TB! backup works automatically at one click. :-) I'm not sure if it is contained in http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html - it certainly belongs there, or doesn't it? Marck? If need be, I can send it to you privately, just request. :-) -- Cheers Peter A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? Winamp currently playing: ³¯«³¨³ - ÀH·Nªù Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
On Saturday, December 20, 2003 at 10:30:22 AM, Zeynel Abidin Öztürk wrote in the message Moving The Bat to a new PC mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is that cannot be done with Backup / Restore? I can be. When backing up, be sure to including everything. Remember to check the Store external attachments in message body box. Then, when you restore, you may get some Directory not Found errors. This is most likely your attachment's directory. After you have restored, check all of your account settings. Don't forget your address books! -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Notice in a dry cleaner's window: ANYONE LEAVING THEIR GARMENTS HERE FOR MORE THAN 30 DAYS WILL BE DISPOSED OF Using The Bat! v2.02 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello Costas,
A reminder of what Costas Papadopoulos typed on:
20 December 2003 at 16:07:49 GMT +0200
CP I hope that the suggested solutions are just as simple!
It is simple and has been discussed, explained, modified and then
re-discussed and re-explained at least 3 times over the past month or two.
So all the details you require along with the necessary batch file should
still be in the archives.
That includes full instructions on installing to different drives etc.
--
Best regards,Tony.
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Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello Costas,
A reminder of what Costas Papadopoulos typed on:
20 December 2003 at 16:07:49 GMT +0200
CP I hope that the suggested solutions are just as simple!
It is simple and has been discussed, explained, modified and then
re-discussed and re-explained at least 3 times over the past month or two.
So all the details you require along with the necessary batch file should
still be in the archives.
That includes full instructions on installing to different drives etc.
--
Best regards,Tony.
The Bat! v2.03.16 20/12/2003 at 16:53 UTC 2ØØ3 - AWB
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Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello Zeynel, Saturday, December 20, 2003, 7:30:22 AM, you wrote: ZAÖ Is that cannot be done with Backup / Restore? I've moved TB across platforms several times and I've used the Back-up/Restore functions to do it. It is very efficient. The restore function brings everything back, including license keys. -- Best regards, Steve TB! v2.02 CE on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello Jernej, Saturday, December 20, 2003, 11:47:11 AM, you wrote: JS On Saturday, December 20, 2003, 15:07:49, Costas Papadopoulos wrote: The simple question to ask is: How do I move my mail database to the new PC given the above conditions? I hope that the suggested solutions are just as simple! JS This is how I did it, when I upgraded my system: JS - RAR (or ZIP, or whatever) your complete Mail directory ... Any reasons why you didn't just do Backup, and Restore? Or just out of habit? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello Jernej, Saturday, December 20, 2003, 11:47:11 AM, you wrote: JS On Saturday, December 20, 2003, 15:07:49, Costas Papadopoulos wrote: The simple question to ask is: How do I move my mail database to the new PC given the above conditions? I hope that the suggested solutions are just as simple! JS This is how I did it, when I upgraded my system: JS - RAR (or ZIP, or whatever) your complete Mail directory JS - start Registry Editor, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Rit and export the JS complete branch Note that if you transfer from one operating system to another, you need to export the right kind of registry file that will suit the other machine. So, do take note in that case. At least with Windows 98 vs. Windows 2000. I'm not sure about Windows XP. It has something called registry hive. No idea what that is. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
On Saturday, December 20, 2003, 18:30:12, Adam wrote: Note that if you transfer from one operating system to another, you need to export the right kind of registry file that will suit the other machine. So, do take note in that case. At least with Windows 98 vs. Windows 2000. Since he said that he's upgrading, I'd imagine that he won't go from NT-based Windows to 9x/ME. Registry Editor in Windows 2000 (and newer) has no problems reading older files. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ Nobody really cares or understands what anyone else is doing. -- Law of the Individual Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Saturday, December 20, 2003, 8:07:49 AM, Costas Papadopoulos wrote: How do I move my mail database to the new PC... I have much the same situation here. Just fired up my new computer for the first time a few mins ago. In my case I will be moving from a Win2000 Pro system to WinXP Pro. At the same time, I want to upgrade from TB v 1.62 to the latest 2.0x version (Xmas version). Any nuances that I might need to know about that scenario? I can pack and move the message base fairly easily. I'm more concerned with moving the accounts info so I don't need to recreate the accounts/filters. Thanks. -- Chris Montgomery Airtight Web Services http://www.airtightweb.com Web Development, Web Project Management, Software Sales 210-490-2415 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello Jernej Thank you for your email dated Saturday, December 20, 2003, 3:17:11 PM, in which you wrote: JS - start Registry Editor, ... Why do this? All I did (more than once) was to point TB! to the new directory in Tools/Preferences/System. Everything is re-generated. Or was I just lucky? -- Regards William http://www.residues.info and http://www.magiric.com Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello William,
A reminder of what William Moore typed on:
20 December 2003 at 19:21:25 GMT +
WM Or was I just lucky?
You can't move over to a new PC without taking the registry entries with
you. You'll lose not just your registration but a host of other settings.
Backup the registry entries, enter them on the new machine and you won't
have to do so much as type your name in, it'll all be done with the click
of a reg file.
If you managed to move to a new PC without touching the registry and you
didn't have to do any setting up then you was more than lucky.
--
Best regards,Tony.
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Re[2]: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hi, On Saturday at 9:01 AM you wrote: TB I hope that the suggested solutions are just as simple! I reinstalled windows xp on my system about 4X since Ive been a bat user. I just use the back up feature and back everything. When I reinstall windows, I just download TB! from ritlabs website and do a restore from my back up. Everything is then restored just as I left it. Breeze -- Darrin The Bat 2.02.3 CE --PGP Key Request-- http://www.speakeasy.org/~drich/pgp.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Moving The Bat to a new PC
D I just use the back up feature and back everything. When I reinstall D windows, I just download TB! from ritlabs website and do a restore from my D back up. Everything is then restored just as I left it. Breeze So the TB! backup/restore functions include all relevant registry entries (such as registration info) along with the full email message data bases *BUT* doesn't include the program itself. -- Rich Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hi, On Saturday at 7:51 PM you wrote: rg So the TB! backup/restore functions include all relevant registry entries rg (such as registration info) along with the full email message data bases rg *BUT* doesn't include the program itself. Yes, I believe so. I did not have to input my registration key code at all. Everything was backed up just great every time. Works like a charm -- Darrin The Bat 2.02.3 CE --PGP Key Request-- http://www.speakeasy.org/~drich/pgp.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello Jernej, Saturday, December 20, 2003, 5:17:11 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): On Saturday, December 20, 2003, 15:07:49, Costas Papadopoulos wrote: The simple question to ask is: How do I move my mail database to the new PC given the above conditions? I hope that the suggested solutions are just as simple! This is how I did it, when I upgraded my system: snipped Thank you for the advice. My thanks are also due to all others who have replied. -- Best regards, Costasmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
