Re[2]: Need help restoring TheBat!

[Lawrence Johnson]

Hello Roelof,

Saturday, October 23, 2004, 4:42:56 AM, you wrote:

> Pick new account.
> Select the same mail directory as you had before.
> When you're prompted for an account name just enter the name you used
> before. Do this for all of your accounts.
> When you don't remember the names for your accounts, check the
> directory names for your account directories, they're the same.

Thank you and everyone else who offered their suggestions.  TB! is
reinstalled with all previous accounts.  Most grateful.

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Re: Need help restoring TheBat!

[Mica Mijatovic]

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 ~( __ _"o   Was another beautiful day, Sat, 23 Oct 2004,
   @  @  at 19:21:52 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

> Hello Bill McCarthy & everyone else

Hello Alexander S. Kunz & all interested in topic.

> 23-Okt-2004 19:09, you wrote:

>> If I have to reinstall the OS or move to another
>> computer, do I really have to install TheBat! at all?

> You'd miss the entries in control panel | add/remove programs to
> uninstall/repair the program - I don't know if TB's new MSI installer will
> detect an existing installation for update/repair if it hasn't been
> "installed" with the MSI technique.

MSI installers one can open with Total Commander's plug-in, as any other
archive, so that is possible to install TB without installation, just if
you know where all files in MSI file have to be nestled in, which is
pretty easy when we deal with TB, still, and hence a de-installation can
be done without de-installation, just if you know what files you have to
delete, which is pretty easy when we deal with TB, still.

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Re: Need help restoring TheBat!

[Mica Mijatovic]

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 ~( __ _"o   Was another beautiful day, Sat, 23 Oct 2004,
   @  @  at 12:09:23 -0500, when Bill McCarthy wrote:

> Like many of you, I regularly backup my program and
> data trees as well was the RIT reg tree - all to an
> external drive.

Good.

> If I have to reinstall the OS or move to another
> computer, do I really have to install TheBat! at all?

No.

> In other words, after I restore the backups of my
> program and mail trees, and click on the reg file to
> restore the registry entries, doesn't TB! run fine
> without being reinstalled?

TB! then runs fine without being reinstalled.

> Or is there other "secret things" that the installation
> performs or stores?

No. The installation is quite exoteric.

> BTW, when I moved from NC to TX a few months ago, I had
> a new laptop shipped to my new office.  I had only the
> mail store on CD.  I downloaded and installed TB! and,
> IIRC, had to set up an account during installation - I
> picked "Bill" - the same main account as stored in my
> mail store.  When TB! came up, I changed the mail
> directory (Options/Preferences/System), shut down TB!
> and restarted.

OK.

> All 9 of my accounts were back to normal - although I
> sure had of lot of fine tuning to do to get my
> customizations back - but that was a lot easier than
> flying back to NC to pick up the reg file I forgot to
> send myself :-)

Yep. That's a lot easier. (-:

You could upload perhaps some files on some site, for such situations. I
have entire chubby library done this way, just to avoid dragging of real
books with myself, if I feel need to read few lines here and there of
this and that, in this or that situation.

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Re: Need help restoring TheBat!

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Bill McCarthy & everyone else

23-Okt-2004 19:09, you wrote:

> If I have to reinstall the OS or move to another
> computer, do I really have to install TheBat! at all?

You'd miss the entries in control panel | add/remove programs to
uninstall/repair the program - I don't know if TB's new MSI installer will
detect an existing installation for update/repair if it hasn't been
"installed" with the MSI technique.

-- 
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 Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
 using v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 without smilies :-P

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lace handkerchiefs, and then they put you in the gas chamber. (Melvin
Belli)



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Re: Need help restoring TheBat!

[Bill McCarthy]

On Sat 23-Oct-04 4:42am -0400, Roelof Otten wrote:

> Next time, save TB's registry settings.
> After installing you don't run TB, but restore your registry settings
> and then run TB, you'll find that it 'remembers' your accounts in that
> case.

Like many of you, I regularly backup my program and
data trees as well was the RIT reg tree - all to an
external drive.

If I have to reinstall the OS or move to another
computer, do I really have to install TheBat! at all?
In other words, after I restore the backups of my
program and mail trees, and click on the reg file to
restore the registry entries, doesn't TB! run fine
without being reinstalled?

Or is there other "secret things" that the installation
performs or stores?

BTW, when I moved from NC to TX a few months ago, I had
a new laptop shipped to my new office.  I had only the
mail store on CD.  I downloaded and installed TB! and,
IIRC, had to set up an account during installation - I
picked "Bill" - the same main account as stored in my
mail store.  When TB! came up, I changed the mail
directory (Options/Preferences/System), shut down TB!
and restarted.

All 9 of my accounts were back to normal - although I
sure had of lot of fine tuning to do to get my
customizations back - but that was a lot easier than
flying back to NC to pick up the reg file I forgot to
send myself :-)

-- 
Best regards,
Bill

The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3




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Re: Need help restoring TheBat!

[Mica Mijatovic]

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 ~( __ _"o   Was another beautiful day, Sat, 23 Oct 2004,
   @  @  at 00:31:44 -0500, when Lawrence Johnson wrote:

> I had to reload Windows OS (Win98SE) today.  I make it a practice to keep
> applications off the C: drive whenever possible, so that it is mostly
> a matter of getting the registry updated correctly.

Yea, I find it fine also. The OS on one partition, programs on another
one, and files/"documents" on a third one (a "Saint Trinity"). The more
"independence" of these three, the better.

> So, I have the data files for TheBat! intact on separate drive.  I'm
> currently a version of TheBat! on another machine in order to pick up
> email.

> I haven't been able to figure out how to re-install TheBat! and make
> the original data files accessible.  After re-install, TheBat! asks
> for a new account to be setup.  I would just as soon use all the old
> account information but I haven't found how I can direct TheBat! to
> use it.

You can direct it best by TB registry (.reg) file. If you save this
entry regularly, then it will contain the last "snap" of your TB
settings.

This .reg file will direct TB to your accounts (in Mail folder), and
these accounts will tell the further settings, specific for accounts,
folders, templates etc.

> Has anyone had to do something like this and can recommend an
> approach.

I do it daily (and often more than once). I also keep Mail folder on a
separate partition, and my TB folder also is not on default position.

For getting TB's registry entries faster I use a batch file with this
command inside:

regedit /e "X:\Mail\tb.reg" hkey_current_user\software\rit

and it just spits out tb.reg entry in my Mail folder on X partition.

I also am backing up entire TB folder, since it is much faster and
easier to just restore its last state then to install it again.

Folder Mail is also backed up, so if I have to restore all this TB
machinery, I have to do just 3 quick steps:

1) restoring Mail folder(s)
2) restoring TB folder
3) running tb.reg

and then just firing up TB. All my old settings are there, alive and
well, exactly as I had left them last time, and no any additional
"tweaking".

For backup I use ARJ (the command line utility, free for personal use)
via simple batch files. EG.:

regedit /e "X:\Mail\tb.reg" hkey_current_user\software\rit  # tbreg.bat

arj a -r -u e:\bkup\mail.arj X:\Mail\*.*# mail.bat

arj a -r -u "e:\bkup\thebat.arj" "x:\TheBat\*.*"# tb.bat

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Re: Need help restoring TheBat!

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Lawrence,

On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 00:31:44 -0500GMT (23-10-2004, 7:31 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

LJ> I haven't been able to figure out how to re-install TheBat! and make
LJ> the original data files accessible.  After re-install, TheBat! asks
LJ> for a new account to be setup.  I would just as soon use all the old
LJ> account information but I haven't found how I can direct TheBat! to
LJ> use it.

Pick new account.
Select the same mail directory as you had before.
When you're prompted for an account name just enter the name you used
before. Do this for all of your accounts.
When you don't remember the names for your accounts, check the
directory names for your account directories, they're the same.

Next time, save TB's registry settings.
After installing you don't run TB, but restore your registry settings
and then run TB, you'll find that it 'remembers' your accounts in that
case.

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

Endless Loop: (n) See Loop, Endless

The Bat! 3.0.1.33
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Re: Need help restoring TheBat!

[David Shepherd]

Friday, October 22, 2004, 11:31:44 PM, you wrote:

LJ> I had to reload Windows OS (Win98SE) today.  I make it a practice to keep
LJ> applications off the C: drive whenever possible, so that it is mostly
LJ> a matter of getting the registry updated correctly.

LJ> So, I have the data files for TheBat! intact on separate drive.  I'm
LJ> currently a version of TheBat! on another machine in order to pick up
LJ> email.

LJ> I haven't been able to figure out how to re-install TheBat! and make
LJ> the original data files accessible.  After re-install, TheBat! asks
LJ> for a new account to be setup.  I would just as soon use all the old
LJ> account information but I haven't found how I can direct TheBat! to
LJ> use it.

LJ> Has anyone had to do something like this and can recommend an
LJ> approach.

I had this problem once.  It was a while ago so I might be wrong
in my advice.  I think typed in the name of the old account when it
asked me for a new account name.  It will recognize the folders and
 you should see all of your old folders and messages.

Hope this helps!




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Need help restoring TheBat!

[Lawrence Johnson]

I had to reload Windows OS (Win98SE) today.  I make it a practice to keep
applications off the C: drive whenever possible, so that it is mostly
a matter of getting the registry updated correctly.

So, I have the data files for TheBat! intact on separate drive.  I'm
currently a version of TheBat! on another machine in order to pick up
email.

I haven't been able to figure out how to re-install TheBat! and make
the original data files accessible.  After re-install, TheBat! asks
for a new account to be setup.  I would just as soon use all the old
account information but I haven't found how I can direct TheBat! to
use it.

Has anyone had to do something like this and can recommend an
approach.

-- 
Best regards,
 Lawrence Johnson  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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