OT: "i don't know you" (was: Start up: The Bat balks)
Hello David, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:32:46 -0400 GMT (08/09/2003, 20:32 +0700 GMT), David R. Austen wrote: Sorry for posting a PM on the list. I replied to your PM, but I have been asked by your bot to confirm my address. I'm not doing that. You want to review your policy for two reasons: 1.) You sent me a message to which I replied. I am offended by your bot's interference to my attempt at helping you. 2.) If you are trying to cut down spam, you will just have confirmed your address to the sender. And if you're in business, you'll never get new customers... and even new friends will be difficult to get. I am kind enough to mention this to you, others will just stop communicating. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wenn morgens frueh der Wecker rasselt, ist der schoenste Tag vermasselt. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: "i don't know you" (was: Start up: The Bat balks)
Hello, Thomas: Monday, September 8, 2003, 11:17:21 AM, you wrote: TF> Sorry for posting a PM on the list. I replied to your PM, but I have TF> been asked by your bot to confirm my address. I regret the inconvenience. Please send me your message with the advice. It will go through now. Yes, the bot asks for a "reason." Even your familiar name would suffice, Thomas, telling me who is "at the door," so to speak. Please don't be offended. But I guess this is a good illustration of what somebody "promised" yesterday. To explain, I forgot to create a permission for you when I first wrote to you OL. (The CM bot normally automatically creates a permanent permission when I send a message to somebody new. SMTP problems at my new ISP have stopped that -- for now. (Of course that does not help with those senders who are totally new to me.) I have now created a permission for you manually, Thomas. TF> I'm not doing that. You TF> want to review your policy for two reasons: TF> 1.) You sent me a message to which I replied. I am offended by TF> your bot's interference to my attempt at helping you. TF> 2.) If you are trying to cut down spam, you will just have confirmed TF> your address to the sender. Good point. On very, very rare occasions, a spammer actually asks me for permission! Thomas, aren't there other ways in which spammers can extrapolate, and determine that an address is likely valid? TF> And if you're in business, you'll never get new customers... (pause) TF> and even new friends will be difficult to get. Now, Thomas, that's below the belt! :-0 I'm rather good looking, and anyway, mother said to be very careful about getting new friends on the Internet. But I think this list should be a safe place. :-) So everybody, come over for lunch at my place today. I'm afraid some dear, old friends will dump me now, per your suggestion. :-) TF> I am kind enough to mention this to you, others will just stop TF>communicating. Seriously, you are kind to take this time to explain this, and alert me to new issues. This spam-killing is a work in progress. Cheers, David Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: "i don't know you" (was: Start up: The Bat balks)
Hello David, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:50:13 -0400 GMT (08/09/2003, 23:50 +0700 GMT), David R. Austen wrote: > I regret the inconvenience. Please send me your message with the > advice. It will go through now. I have moved it back to the Outbox. You should receive it soon. > Yes, the bot asks for a "reason." Even your familiar name would > suffice, Thomas, telling me who is "at the door," so to speak. Please > don't be offended. But I guess this is a good illustration of what > somebody "promised" yesterday. I don't understand the last sentence. > To explain, I forgot to create a permission for you when I first wrote > to you OL. Bingo! As I kept explaining to my people, apologies are one thing, not creating a situation needing one, is what we aim for! TF>> 1.) You sent me a message to which I replied. I am offended by TF>> your bot's interference to my attempt at helping you. TF>> 2.) If you are trying to cut down spam, you will just have confirmed TF>> your address to the sender. > Good point. On very, very rare occasions, a spammer actually asks me > for permission! Thomas, aren't there other ways in which spammers can > extrapolate, and determine that an address is likely valid? It's usually the "unsubscribe" address. The point is, I don't see the reason for your policy. TF>> and even new friends will be difficult to get. > Now, Thomas, that's below the belt! :-0 I'm rather good looking, Send me a picture! :-) > and anyway, mother said to be very careful about getting new friends > on the Internet. Your mother is a wise lady. > But I think this list should be a safe place. :-) So everybody, come > over for lunch at my place today. I'm afraid lunch time is over for me, so is dinner. Next time, then. Will your mother be cooking? :-) TF>> I am kind enough to mention this to you, others will just stop TF>>communicating. > Seriously, you are kind to take this time to explain this, and alert > me to new issues. This spam-killing is a work in progress. I doubt you are killing spam this way. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Blamestorming: Sitting around in a group discussing why a deadline was missed or a project failed, and who was responsible. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: "i don't know you" (was: Start up: The Bat balks)
Hi David, on Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:50:13 -0400GMT (08.09.03, 18:50 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : ... TF>> 2.) If you are trying to cut down spam, you will just have confirmed TF>> your address to the sender. DRA> Good point. On very, very rare occasions, a spammer actually asks me DRA> for permission! Thomas, aren't there other ways in which spammers can DRA> extrapolate, and determine that an address is likely valid? Never as easy as by getting a reply. ... DRA> This spam-killing is a work in progress. It is indeed! And it will be, as the spammers are progressing too... ;-) -- Cheers Peter _ | Fight Spam! Join EuroCAUCE: http://www.euro.cauce.org/ | ~ "The pen is mightier than the sword, and considerably easier to write with." Marty Feldman pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
