Re: Old Bat bug!
Marck, On Sunday, January 28, 2001, 9:35:42 AM, you wrote: MDP Yes. Unless expanding a thread causes the subject to become MDP too wide for the current window width. I wasn't able to do MDP that with my settings. Nevertheless, it didn't scroll. I think part of the point here is that the subject column DOES expand, shifting everything over to the right. This IMHO is very odd behaviour. If I set the subject column at a certain width, it is because that is the width I wanted it. Early on in this thread, this seemed to be what John was referring to... but I think that was lost in the shuffle. -- -=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Old Bat bug!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, On 28 January 2001 at 17:14:05 +1100 (which was 06:14 where I live) John Phillips wrote and made these points: JP Sorry, where did I say that I clicked on the column. You didn't have to. WADR Januk and I have both described how it works. You may not have clicked on that column *recently* but it is the column you have as the currently selected one. TB may highlight the whole line in the message list, but there is a conceptual "current column" which is kept in view. JP ... Why can't Bat! conform to the accepted standard; i.e. view JP always to left of pane? Is this so hard to do? Maybe pedantic ones JP like me could have a choice? TB conforms to that standard ... and another standard - when your cursor is off screen to the right, it scrolls the screen to the left to make sure that it is visible. That is a standard I would not like to see TB abandon. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOnQP4jnkJKuSnc2gEQKQ/gCdGyi1mX9XyqRCG3Nk4PqeiAMdIA8AmwYn xDeMwxmUR/ZvtokMaxcq64a7 =Wep7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Old Bat bug!
Marck D. Pearlstone wrote, On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, at 12:26:10 [GMT +] (23:26 Australian Eastern Time,Sunday): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, On 28 January 2001 at 17:14:05 +1100 (which was 06:14 where I live) John Phillips wrote and made these points: JP Sorry, where did I say that I clicked on the column. You didn't have to. WADR Januk and I have both described how it works. You may not have clicked on that column *recently* but it is the column you have as the currently selected one. TB may highlight the whole line in the message list, but there is a conceptual "current column" which is kept in view. So what you are saying is, if I click on the first left hand column ( let us presume it is "Subject", so that all subjects are listed either ascending or descending), this changing the view to the right hand side of the screen will not happen? Bit confused here. -- It's not if you win or lose, but how you place the blame. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Old Bat bug!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, On 28 January 2001 at 04:07:09 +1100 (which was 17:07 where I live) John Phillips wrote and made these points: JP So what you are saying is, if I click on the first left hand JP column ( let us presume it is "Subject", so that all subjects are JP listed either ascending or descending), this changing the view to JP the right hand side of the screen will not happen? Bit confused JP here. Yes. Unless expanding a thread causes the subject to become too wide for the current window width. I wasn't able to do that with my settings. Nevertheless, it didn't scroll. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOnRYbjnkJKuSnc2gEQJrtQCgxdFP33o3xnKVA8eQOWqNgBMh2qQAn3hz fFZCJC+Y+86PWFhan5I4Z0B6 =MOL8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Old Bat bug!
Hi Bat Fans, The focus in my message list pane shifts unexpectedly to the right from time to time, and then thinks that this is the default setting. I seem to remember reading about this here many months ago, and a promise it would be fixed "real soon now" If I have a look at another folder, then back to the offending folder, this problems sometimes seems to be fixed for a while - sometimes not. What is the latest in fixing this bug? BTW, what is the macro to reveal my Bat! serial number in the sig. below? -- TIA Regards, John Phillips Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.49 Windows 98 Build A If Ayn Rand was so smart, how come she couldn't spell? -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Old Bat bug!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, On 27 January 2001 at 21:26:38 +1100 (which was 10:26 where I live) John Phillips wrote and made these points: JP The focus in my message list pane shifts unexpectedly to the right JP from time to time, and then thinks that this is the default JP setting. JP I seem to remember reading about this here many months ago, and a JP promise it would be fixed "real soon now" JP If I have a look at another folder, then back to the offending JP folder, this problems sometimes seems to be fixed for a while - JP sometimes not. It's about the columns selected for display being too wide for the window and the focus moving to a column which is not fully on screen. When this happens, the screen scrolls sideways to accommodate it. The "fixed for a while" phenomenon is about selecting a different column while in the other folder and which folders have what columns on show at what widths. JP What is the latest in fixing this bug? AFAIAC it is not a bug. It is by design. To "fix" it you have to change your column layout, reducing the width of some columns or omitting some columns completely so that scrolling is avoided. Having said that, when you expand threads, the subject column gets wider and wider until the same horizontal scroll kicks in again. JP BTW, what is the macro to reveal my Bat! serial number in the sig. JP below? %THEBATSERIALNUMBER - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOnKxNTnkJKuSnc2gEQL2BQCgxdIlDaqiNQjasbQwa3fyQy/N5/4AnRfz Rhi/2Uzut9MT+34qLVYDltQb =Kw02 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Old Bat bug!
Marck D. Pearlstone wrote, On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, at 11:29:57 [GMT +] (22:29 Australian Eastern Time,Saturday): It's about the columns selected for display being too wide for the window and the focus moving to a column which is not fully on screen. When this happens, the screen scrolls sideways to accommodate it. The "fixed for a while" phenomenon is about selecting a different column while in the other folder and which folders have what columns on show at what widths. JP What is the latest in fixing this bug? AFAIAC it is not a bug. It is by design. To "fix" it you have to change your column layout, reducing the width of some columns or omitting some columns completely so that scrolling is avoided. Having said that, when you expand threads, the subject column gets wider and wider until the same horizontal scroll kicks in again. Following from this, wouldn't it be logical that the focus swings back to the left if the message thread changes? At least if it did this, this "feature" would be more acceptable IMHO. -- MilliHelen: Amount of beauty required to launch one ship. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Old Bat bug!
Marck, On Saturday, January 27, 2001, 3:29:57 AM, you wrote: MDP Having said that, when you expand threads, the subject MDP column gets wider and wider until the same horizontal scroll MDP kicks in again. I have noticed this behaviour as well and thought it was rather bizarre that The Bat! would widen the subject field on it's own volition. I would rather expect that I would set it at the width I prefer and The Bat! would leave it alone. -- -=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Old Bat bug!
Hi Marck, Historians believe that Sat, 27 Jan 2001 at 11:29:57 GMT + was when, Marck D. Pearlstone [MP] typed the following: MP It's about the columns selected for display being too wide for the MP window and the focus moving to a column which is not fully on screen. MP When this happens, the screen scrolls sideways to accommodate it. The MP "fixed for a while" phenomenon is about selecting a different column MP while in the other folder and which folders have what columns on show MP at what widths. Note that you can use the scroll bar or ALTLeft Arrow to get back. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Ok, who is General Relativity, and what did he do with Sir Newton? -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Old Bat bug!
Elden Fenison wrote, On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, at 13:31:09 [GMT -0800] (08:31 Australian Eastern Time,Sunday): Marck, On Saturday, January 27, 2001, 3:29:57 AM, you wrote: MDP Having said that, when you expand threads, the subject MDP column gets wider and wider until the same horizontal scroll MDP kicks in again. I have noticed this behaviour as well and thought it was rather bizarre that The Bat! would widen the subject field on it's own volition. I would rather expect that I would set it at the width I prefer and The Bat! would leave it alone. Agreed. What I find most annoying about this behaviour is when a new post arrives to a long thread and the view goes to the right. What the hell is the thread / post about before I read it. I believe The Bat! developers should look at this and correct this problem, ASAP, puleeze? -- Don't mess with me. You know how I get -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Old Bat bug!
Januk Aggarwal wrote, On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, at 13:40:41 [GMT -0800] (08:40 Australian Eastern Time,Sunday): Hi Marck, Historians believe that Sat, 27 Jan 2001 at 11:29:57 GMT + was when, Marck D. Pearlstone [MP] typed the following: snipped Note that you can use the scroll bar or ALTLeft Arrow to get back. That is not the point. You -shouldn't- have to. And this is not permanent for the next mail in the pane. -- Yes, I know I'm off topic. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Old Bat bug!
Hello John, Historians believe that Sun, 28 Jan 2001 at 09:24:10 GMT +1100 was when, John Phillips [JP] typed the following: Note that you can use the scroll bar or ALTLeft Arrow to get back. JP That is not the point. You suggested that you can *not* get the view back reliably. That is not true. I merely pointed out how do to get back from the action of auto-scroll. JP You -shouldn't- have to. Why not? The feature is this: If a column is partially off-screen, and you click on that column, then the view scrolls over so you can see the full column. What else is TB supposed to assume? You clicked on that specific column, so presumably you want to see the information contained in that column. To avoid the auto-scroll, click on any *fully* visible column. Once you know that this feature exists, this isn't hard. JP And this is not permanent for the next mail in the pane. Yes it is. See above. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I should probably engage that largish, grey organ lurking inside of my skull a bit more often. I think it's called a brain. -- Simon -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Old Bat bug!
Januk Aggarwal wrote, On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, at 15:11:43 [GMT -0800] (10:11 Australian Eastern Time,Sunday): Hello John, Historians believe that Sun, 28 Jan 2001 at 09:24:10 GMT +1100 was when, John Phillips [JP] typed the following: Note that you can use the scroll bar or ALTLeft Arrow to get back. JP That is not the point. You suggested that you can *not* get the view back reliably. That is not true. I merely pointed out how do to get back from the action of auto-scroll. JP You -shouldn't- have to. Why not? The feature is this: If a column is partially off-screen, and you click on that column, then the view scrolls over so you can see the full column. What else is TB supposed to assume? You clicked on that specific column, so presumably you want to see the information contained in that column. Sorry, where did I say that I clicked on the column. I did not do this. AFAIK, all other mail clients treat this matter, IMHO - "correctly". Bat! should conform to the standard (at least in this matter). To avoid the auto-scroll, click on any *fully* visible column. Once you know that this feature exists, this isn't hard. No problem at present but will give it a try, but, at the risk of beating a dead horse, and I think there are plenty who will agree with me, why should I have to? Why can't Bat! conform to the accepted standard; i.e. view always to left of pane? Is this so hard to do? Maybe pedantic ones like me could have a choice? JP And this is not permanent for the next mail in the pane. Yes it is. See above. See above. -- I've plummeted to my death and I can't get up. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
