Re: Anybody else notice?

2000-02-03 Thread Chuck Mattsen

On Wednesday, February 02, 2000 at 9:38 PM or thereabouts, Leif
Gregory wrote the following about Anybody else notice?:

Leif Looking at his e-mail address (which he changed during the
Leif "discussion"), you see this: 1l2i3h4P56d7a8B
Leif Remove numbers:
Leif 1ihP daB
Leif Reverse line:
Leif Bad Phil

Leif Don't ask me why I noticed that!?!?

I won't ... it's too scary.  :)  Stop it.

Chuck
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Re: Anybody else notice?

2000-02-03 Thread tracer

Hello Leif Gregory,
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:38:03 +0900 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, February 03, 2000, 10:38:03 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Leif Gregory wrote:


 Hello everybody,


 That Phil guy is a strange character.

The website of his isp is stranger (g)

 Looking at his e-mail address (which he changed during the
 "discussion"), you see this: 1l2i3h4P56d7a8B

 Remove numbers:
 1ihP daB

 Reverse line:
 Bad Phil


 Don't ask me why I noticed that!?!?

because the numbers are sequential...


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Re: Anybody else notice?

2000-02-03 Thread Nico Schirwing

Hello Leif,

 Don't ask me why I noticed that!?!?

Cause you're a strange guy with too much time? ;-) Anyway,
congratulations, most are blind for the obvious...

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Re: Anybody else notice?

2000-02-03 Thread Wolfgang Kynast

Hi Leif,

LG That Phil guy is a strange character.
...
LG Reverse line:
LG Bad Phil

He acts like a defiant child. Lets close this thread.

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Re: Anybody else notice?

2000-02-03 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev

Hi there!

On 3 Feb 00, at 20:27, Dieter Hummel wrote
about "Re: Anybody else notice?":

 I know why I installed more than 40 killfilters for this list... My time is
 too precious to waste it with messages from people refusing to reveal their 
 real  names.  This group definitely is no place to hide behind an alias. You
 can bet, I can live with less messages. 

Then, *hopefully*, you're still reading this one;-) Or should be, since this is my 
_real_ full name;-) But what if I called myself "Vladimir V. Putin" or whatever 
here? How would you know that it's not my real name?;-))

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Re: Anybody else notice?

2000-02-03 Thread Allie Martin

On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 20:27:44 +0100, Dieter Hummel wrote:

 I know why I installed more than 40 killfilters for this list... My time
 is too precious to waste it with messages from people refusing to reveal
 their  real  names.  This group definitely is no place to hide behind an
 alias.

But that's almost the entire list subscribership. :)

 You can bet, I can live with less messages.

Yes, you'll certainly be getting less messages. How do you
follow threads? GOK's (God only knows) if I'll get an answer to this
one. Probably I'm among the 40. :(

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Re: Anybody else notice?

2000-02-03 Thread Angel

On Thursday, February 03, 2000 at 11:27:44 , Dieter scribbled:

DH My time is too precious to waste it with messages from people refusing to reveal
DH their  real  names.
DH This group definitely is no place to hide behind an alias.
Wha ? ?
Angel isn't my real name FYI. But it HAS been by nickname for the longest time.
I "personally" don't "hide", I made the CHOICE NOT to release my real name to just
any Tom, Dick, or nickname. I am not paranoid, but the internet IS the internet.
It is and will not ever be 100% secure. And I am sure I am not the only one who feels
this  way,  nor will I be the last, and I've been "burned" before. Once burned twice 
shy,  nothing to
hold against me either.

Yes, this list IS a legit and good one but: I found your comments were rude and 
uncalled for regarding
your prejudice againt people on this list who do not use their real name.
You may just be missing out on some very informative stuff and useful information from 
these people.

You see, just because I choose to use a nickname instead of my real one doesn't mean I 
have
less to offer or that I am wasting anyones time.
You want my real name? This is the internet..so get to know me..let me get to know 
you. When
*I*  feel comfortable with you, you might know my name. Otherwise, this is a LIST, on 
the INTERNET,
no one person really gets to "know" EVERYone, so I prefer to use my longtime nickname.

So I proudly introduce myself:
I am Angel. Greetings  to  those  who are new to the list, nice to see you here..
and a *wave* to those who have already "read" me.
And if the fact I don't use my real name on this list goes against list rules? I am 
sorry.. 
I'll resign from it.  :(

Apologies for the long post, or if it offended anyone or got anyone angry. I just had 
to say
something in defense of myself (and possibly others..) seeing as how we are treading 
these waters.
I'm not hiding, I'm not "out for anything", I'm here to read and learn and possibly on 
occasion
help regarding the best email program out there IMPO. That's all :D

Regards,
~~~Angel ...your RDR
Thursday, February 03, 2000 14:05:38

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RE: Anybody else notice?

2000-02-03 Thread Nick Rout

can we stop this thread now please? there seems to be alot of off topic 
stuff on this list . It is SUPPOSED to be about The Bat! I have posted a 
question and never received an answer, although if I had it would probably 
be swamped by all this c**p.  BTW I have nothing against you Angel, this is 
not a personal attack or criticism :-)

-Original Message-
From:   Angel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Friday, 4 February 2000 11:31
To: Dieter Hummel
Subject:Re: Anybody else notice?

On Thursday, February 03, 2000 at 11:27:44 , Dieter scribbled:

DH My time is too precious to waste it with messages from people refusing 
to reveal
DH their  real  names.
DH This group definitely is no place to hide behind an alias.
Wha ? ?
Angel isn't my real name FYI. But it HAS been by nickname for the longest 
time.
I "personally" don't "hide", I made the CHOICE NOT to release my real name 
to just
[Nick Rout]  [balance omtitted, you all have it anyway..] 
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Re: Anybody else notice?

2000-02-03 Thread Dieter Hummel

Hello Listmembers,

On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 at 17:33:16 [GMT  -0500] Allie Martin wrote:

 But that's almost the entire list subscribership. :)

Oh, no.

 You can bet, I can live with less messages.

 How do you follow threads?

Just like you - except that there may be some deep holes :-)

 GOK's (God only knows) if I'll get an answer to this one. Probably I'm
 among the 40. :(

Don't feel unread, Allie. I'm watching you :-)

Regards
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Re: Anybody else notice?

2000-02-03 Thread Leif Gregory

Hello Angel, 

On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 at 14:31:28 [GMT -0800], you wrote:
A And if the fact I don't use my real name on this list goes against
A list rules? I am sorry..  I'll resign from it. :(

Aack! I wish people would stop saying that. If you didn't see the
rule in the subscription receipt, then rest assured that we're not
going to pounce a new one on you just because. I'm sure they will
evolve over time, but so far the basic rules have served us very well.

There are no rules against using nicknames (provided that they aren't
offensive.)

I've been on mailing lists and discussion boards since the mid '80s
(BBSs before the Internet of course), and nicks (or handles) have
almost always been acceptable. There were a few BBSs and UDLs I've
been on that banned them, but TBUDL and TBBETA are not one of them.

Just because a person does not choose to divulge their real name on
the Internet, doesn't mean they have something to hide (other than
their privacy.)

To some people, privacy is very important. It's their right to keep
their names private.



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Re: Anybody else notice?

2000-02-03 Thread tracer

Hello Angel,
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:31:28 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, February 04, 2000, 5:31:28 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Angel wrote:


 On Thursday, February 03, 2000 at 11:27:44 , Dieter scribbled:

DH My time is too precious to waste it with messages from people refusing to reveal
DH their  real  names.
DH This group definitely is no place to hide behind an alias.
 Wha ? ?
 Angel isn't my real name FYI. But it HAS been by nickname for the longest time.
 I "personally" don't "hide", I made the CHOICE NOT to release my real name to just
 any Tom, Dick, or nickname. I am not paranoid, but the internet IS the internet.
 It is and will not ever be 100% secure. And I am sure I am not the only one who feels
 this  way,  nor will I be the last, and I've been "burned" before. Once burned twice 
shy,  nothing to
 hold against me either.

correct.. and more importantly the list is fully accesible via the
web.
On other lists I may use my name but may vary the firstname to my
second, abreviations etc so that I can see where unexpected contacts
come from. Same with email accounts. Some I only use for specific
purposes.
And in my own case several people on this list do know exactly who I
am, where I live, what my name is etc etc.
I just donot see the need or the purpose in broadcasting it over the
net.
Added, that with my work I prefer to use a nick.
I use a different one for my PC and thats also rather well known so
when I was experimenting with a trojan (and my firewall settings) a
sudden visitor felt it useful to tell me I had a trojan. Quite
funny as he reognised the system name...

 Yes, this list IS a legit and good one but: I found your comments were rude and 
uncalled for regarding
 your prejudice againt people on this list who do not use their real name.
 You may just be missing out on some very informative stuff and useful information 
from these people.

Doesnt bother me, everybody can filter what he wants and as much as he
wants.

 You see, just because I choose to use a nickname instead of my real one doesn't mean 
I have
 less to offer or that I am wasting anyones time.
 You want my real name? This is the internet..so get to know me..let me get to know 
you. When
 *I*  feel comfortable with you, you might know my name. Otherwise, this is a LIST, 
on the INTERNET,
 no one person really gets to "know" EVERYone, so I prefer to use my longtime 
nickname.

Its a nice one so who minds(g).
I was given mine way before there was an internet.
Loads of people know me by that nick and even good friends CALL me by
it.
Its like a second name after all these years



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Re: Anybody else notice?

2000-02-03 Thread tracer

Hello Nick Rout,
On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:27:39 +1300 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, February 04, 2000, 6:27:39 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Nick Rout wrote:


 can we stop this thread now please? there seems to be alot of off topic 
 stuff on this list . It is SUPPOSED to be about The Bat! I have posted a 
 question and never received an answer, although if I had it would probably 
 be swamped by all this c**p.  BTW I have nothing against you Angel, this is 
 not a personal attack or criticism :-)

DUMP  ZIPMAGIC
Ooops  (g)
Sure this one doesnt get losy in that unmentioble stuff,,,

I have seen the questions and the answers  so just because it isnt
about the bat it doesnt mean we donot read or answer you.

Best regards,
 
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