Re: Spam Filter (was Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?)

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Watcher  everyone else,

on 17-Dez-2004 at 21:10 you (Watcher) wrote:

 I don't know of any desktop spam filter with Bayes analysis that comes

 Wow, that is strange to hear, it worked the instant I installed it, I
 trained it very little and it has been doing well.

Thats not so strange - I don't know how BayesIt actually works, but I think
everything is considered ham until you re-classify it. :)

 Of course I have NO email offers that I consider non-spam, I don't want
 to be 'kept up to date', when I need something I'll start looking, not
 get what someone sent to my desktop to sell me something. Maybe that is
 part of the reason?

The success of any Bayes filter is dependant on one's email profile, and
undoubtfully a consistent classification by the end-user is necessary. Its
surprising however how precise PopFile can classify mails (PopFile can not
only keep ham and spam apart, but classify mails into groups that you
define yourself).


 If I start having problems, I'll download K9 as you suggested, it looks
 fine except that it's external which will be a bit more of a pain.

As it is now, both have their pros  cons... BayesIt integrates nicely into
TB, K9 has a much better configuration interface. I actually find it easier
to re-classify a mail with K9 than with BI.

BayesIt needs better integration into TB, but I think that is not the
problem of TB but rather the plugin interface. For example, I'd like to
have some buttons for classification in the mail viewer and preview pane,
and not nested in some right-click menu. I'd also like to see the score of
each message in TB, and not only in the logfiles of BI. For me, K9's
interface is simply better for that. PopFile's interface  statistics are
unrivalled IMHO, but then again, the program is so slow, it hurts. :)

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Re: Spam Filter (was Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?)

[Andrew]

Hello Alexander,

Friday, December 17, 2004, 1:25:25 PM, you wrote and sent the following:

 Having used
 SpamPal + Bayesian plugin, PopFile  lately K9, they all performed a lot
 better even after the shortest training periods.

It's why I use Malwasher Pro. Can include multiple e-mail accounts,
but working off the same spam/legit training mail base. It also
includes white list/black list, dns blacklist, and user filtering
(including RegEx). Everything happens on the server so nothing gets
downloaded that I don't let through (though I have recently begun
letting some, to train BayesIT and give it a test. Won't be the same,
but will do something when I forget to run MWP first).

Now if there was a Mailwasher Plugin for TB, now that WOULD be nice.

You know, I think I'll e-mail Firetrust about it.  Wouldn't that be
cool?

--
Andrew


Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33
On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600

The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by 
evil men.
  --Plato (427 BC - 347 BC)



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Re: Spam Filter (was Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?)

[Tony Boom]

Hello Andrew,

  A reminder of what Andrew on TBUDL typed on:
  17 December 2004 at 22:15:37 GMT +0100

A You know, I think I'll e-mail Firetrust about it.  Wouldn't that be
A cool?

 His name is Nick Bolton, I have Mailwasher Pro as well and I totally agree with
 you, it's by far the best spam killer I've used... Apart from MDaemon that is.


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