Re: Version 2.01 - Problems Using HTML Editor
G'day Allie, Saturday, October 18, 2003, 9:46:18 AM, you wrote: > Ok. I can't so we're likely doing things differently or use different > settings. > Currently, I'm using MicroEd as my default editor. I tend to just open a > new message, fill in the To: and Subject: headers, tab into the message > body field and then switch editors to HTML only. I type a few words and > then put in the Outbox or save as draft. Both work. > I'm using the Rich Text Viewer as my default viewer. I'm also using no > plug-ins (plug-ins seem to interfere in unexpected ways at times so I > thought I'd mention that). I'm also using the Rich Text Viewer and no plug-ins, so that rules out that explanation for me at least. I tried altering my default editor to MicroEd and then changing the settings for individual messages with Options/Message Format as you said you did and everything then went beautifully exactly as it should with the message correctly formatted without multiple draft files moving to the Outbox when I hit the "Put letter in Outbox" button. I tried a few variations of coloured text, varying text size and with and without inline pictures. Every combination worked fine. I then changed to the Plain Text (Windows) Editor as my default and once again everything went again fine this time. The same with setting up both the HTML Editor options as default. Whatever the problem was, it has obviously been corrected (for now at least) by swapping the default editor and using the message format option. Subsequent changes of default editor haven't resulted in it reappearing. This could be one of those really annoying problems to track down if it only happens intermittently and not to all users. I will keep my fingers crossed that it will keep working for me, just in case I ever really do want to send HTML mail. Allie, thank you very much for taking so much time to try to emulate the problem. Rich Gregory - thank you for confirming that you have the same problem - at least I know I haven't gone completely senile and wasn't just imagining it. -- Bob Mo®®is Saturday, 18 October 2003 Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2.01 - Problems Using HTML Editor
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote: RG> I absolutely CAN confirm the problem. Ok. I can't so we're likely doing things differently or use different settings. Currently, I'm using MicroEd as my default editor. I tend to just open a new message, fill in the To: and Subject: headers, tab into the message body field and then switch editors to HTML only. I type a few words and then put in the Outbox or save as draft. Both work. I then tried using the HTML/Plain Text option for formatting. Again, no problem putting the message in the outbox or saving as draft. I then changed from using MicroEd as my default editor and changed to the Plain Text (Windows) editor. I did this because I noted that you seem to use the Plain Text (Windows) editor as your default. I then tried the same things with HTML formatted messages. Again, I can save as draft or send to outbox for sending. I'm using the Rich Text Viewer as my default viewer. I'm also using no plug-ins (plug-ins seem to interfere in unexpected ways at times so I thought I'd mention that). RG> I have even re-installed TB (several times) and it never got better. If you reapply the same settings then the bug will just resurface. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2.01 - Problems Using HTML Editor
Bob Morris, [BM] wrote: BM> Perhaps I didn't explain too well here. There is no way that I BM> can send a message from the HTML Editor, either to my Outbox for BM> later despatch or as a request for immediate despatch, unlike the BM> other two editors which allow me to use either of the icons at the BM> top left of my tool bar. Ok. I can't duplicate the problem here. :/ -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2.01 - Problems Using HTML Editor
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote: RG> Speaking of the editor header fields that appear on the new RG> message screen, is there a way to RG> a) wrap text for extra long address lines so that you needn't RG> scroll left + right to see all the addressees & No. RG> b) change the display attributes of the header fields (i.e. larger RG> fonts, colors, etc)? Yes. You can change the header font and size via Options/Preferences and going to the system tab. The message pane header font controls the editor header fields font. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2.01 - Problems Using HTML Editor
G'day Allie, Friday, October 17, 2003, 11:08:01 AM, you wrote: BM>> Then when I hit the "Put letter in Outbox" button nothing happened. BM>> The same with the "Send the letter" button - nothing. Manually BM>> switching to the Outbox showed my message was there but with the BM>> draft hourglass symbol displayed. The only way I can convince the BM>> message to send is to manually click on the Hourglass symbol in the BM>> outbox to delete the draft status and then send manually. Is this BM>> the expected behaviour? AM> Yes. Drafts cannot be sent unless their draft status is removed. Perhaps I didn't explain too well here. There is no way that I can send a message from the HTML Editor, either to my Outbox for later despatch or as a request for immediate despatch, unlike the other two editors which allow me to use either of the icons at the top left of my tool bar. The selection of "Message - Send Now" or "Queue in Outbox" also doesn't work for me with the HTML Editor. I didn't really want to send a draft - it was only by changing to the outbox and manually removing the draft status that I could get the message sent. The other editors automatically remove the draft status as soon as you hit the "Send" command from within the Editor. I guess that it is pretty clear that The Bat! isn't really ready for use as a HTML client, and personally I have no problem with that. If I had purchased it wanting to use HTML then I would be pretty cheesed off though. Thanks very much for your quick reply. -- Bob Mo®®is Friday, 17 October 2003 Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2.01 - Problems Using HTML Editor
Bob Morris, [BM] wrote: BM> Then I attempted to run my spell check - it doesn't appear to BM> work at all with the HTML Editor although both options - "Check BM> entire text" and "Check before send/queue" works fine in both the BM> Plain Text (Windows) and Plain Text (MicroEd) editors. Is this a BM> known issue, or am I doing something wrong? Yes. It's a known issue. BM> I then noticed that every auto-save of my message (set at the BM> 40 second default) was creating a new HTML attachment to my message, BM> plus saving an additional copy of each graphic file so that I ended BM> up with multiple HTML files each progressively a little larger as my BM> message progressed. Hmmm. I just tried this and haven't been able to duplicate that problem. BM> Then when I hit the "Put letter in Outbox" button nothing happened. BM> The same with the "Send the letter" button - nothing. Manually BM> switching to the Outbox showed my message was there but with the BM> draft hourglass symbol displayed. The only way I can convince the BM> message to send is to manually click on the Hourglass symbol in the BM> outbox to delete the draft status and then send manually. Is this BM> the expected behaviour? Yes. Drafts cannot be sent unless their draft status is removed. BM> I think that I read in earlier messages to the group that The Bat's BM> HTML implementation in v2.0 was a bit buggy, but as I was not BM> planning an immediate move to v2.0 in view of all the other teething BM> problems I didn't take any notice. Yes. Not many of the active beta testers use the HTML editor. I personally don't use it much and just during my little experiment I've come across a lot of strange behaviour. That editor needs some debugging. BM> The HTML Editor would also not allow me to insert my Quick Template BM> signature, carried over from my old 1.62r version, but it works fine BM> with the other two editors. Yes. I confirm this as well. Templates will be applied only when you invoke from the utilities menu. When you do invoke them, no message body additions such as signatures are done. Only message header and other message related actions are applied. BM> Any advise and/or guidance would be appreciated. None. :/ -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
