Re: Why do I use The Bat? (was: "On editors and wishlists")

2000-01-26 Thread Steve Lamb

Wednesday, January 26, 2000, 10:51:34 AM, Nico wrote:
> It does. The Bat unites all the features that other programs lack off
> under a smart interface. I always thought that would be impossible,
> since often you get cool features here and a nice interface there...
> but not all together. Well, until I found The Bat!

Except for a decent IMAP implementation...

...and seamless PGP integration...

...and external editor support...

Hmmm, all?  What was that?  ;)

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Re: Why do I use The Bat? (was: "On editors and wishlists")

2000-01-26 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev

Hi there!

On 26 Jan 00, at 19:51, Nico Schirwing wrote
about "Why do I use The Bat?...":

> >> It's simply the best.
> > Which did not respond to Tom's question.
> 
> It does. The Bat unites all the features that other programs lack off
> under a smart interface. I always thought that would be impossible,
> since often you get cool features here and a nice interface there...
> but not all together. Well, until I found The Bat!

I could supply here a pretty long list of *essential* features that it doesn't 
support, but I won't. Go and read RFCs. These are in plain English. It ought to 
be even much simplier a reading for you then for me.

> You get the feeling that someone really thought about what's useful
> and what's needed. Every day I find new features and I think "how
> could I ever live without this and that?".

Actually, right now I've sometimes got a reverse feeling... that's why I'm still 
using Pegasus.

> It looks like the development still goes on. That may sound silly but
> it's very important. If you're a former Pegasus user you'll know what
> I mean... 

Nope, I do not. Have you been subscribed to PM-WIN? Just for example: 
here, on this list, only few of us have *ever* read RFCs (well, Steve, Marck, 
myself, have I forgotten anybody?). On PM-WIN, at least 20 guys are much at 
home when dealing with standards. That is, they are a bit ... err... more 
educated, that's what I wanted to say. No personal offence, please, since I've 
counted myself this time on TBUDL rather then on PM-WIN;-)

> Support doesn't mean to explain to me why things don't work or why they can't
> be implemented or why they have to be this way or that way 

in other words, they tried to tell you how all this is supposed to work judging by 
the standards;-) Now try to look at it from their point of view: the userbase of 
Pegasus is *way* larger as of now, and they are forced to answer the same 
(usually stupid, like "why it doesn't work like in LookOut?") questions over and 
over again. BTW: the reasonable wishes are implemented "on the fly"...


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Re: Why do I use The Bat? (was: "On editors and wishlists")

2000-01-26 Thread Tom Plunket

AVK> Nope, I do not. Have you been subscribed to PM-WIN? Just for example:
AVK> here, on this list, only few of us have *ever* read RFCs (well, Steve, Marck, 
AVK> myself, have I forgotten anybody?).

I've read and argued news-related RFCs, if that counts...  ;)


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Re: Why do I use The Bat? (was: "On editors and wishlists")

2000-01-26 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev

Hi there!

On 26 Jan 00, at 13:53, Tom Plunket wrote
about "Re: Why do I use The Bat? (was: "On":


> AVK> Nope, I do not. Have you been subscribed to PM-WIN? Just for example:
> AVK> here, on this list, only few of us have *ever* read RFCs (well, Steve, Marck, 
> AVK> myself, have I forgotten anybody?).
> 
> I've read and argued news-related RFCs, if that counts...  ;)

I ment RFCs 822 and MIME-related 2045-2049, actually. Plus maybe 1652, 
1869, 1896, 2231. Wait until RITs add newsreading;-) I've never known the 
relevant standards, since I rarely read news at all (and for _my_ needs, 
mozilla is quite all right);-)

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