Re[2]: A Question about Distribution Lists

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hi Marck, Thanks for jumping in on this one.

  On Friday, November 03, 2000 @ 23:49:33 +, you
  wrote   the  following  about  "A  Question  about
  Distribution Lists"
  

Marck> [...] You would address a mail to "janrif " (no
Marck> quotes).   The  mail  would  retain  that  addressing
Marck> syntax,  even  in the sent folder. The word "list" in
Marck> angle  brackets  is  leterally a part of the required
Marck> syntax.

Marck> The  messages  at  destination  would  appear as "To:
Marck> addr1, addr2, addr3, addr4" where each of the "addrN"
Marck> addresses   would   be   of   the   full   "RealName"
Marck> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  as  held  in  the  address book
Marck> group. [...]

  In my experiment:

JR>   Group = Jan Rifkinson
JR>   handle = janrif
JR>Within the group:
JR>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JR>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JR>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JR>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  The  mail  was  sent only to the last 2 addresses.
  Hm.

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Ridgefield, CT USA
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Re[2]: A Question about Distribution Lists

[Jan Rifkinson]

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Hi Marck,

In looking thru FAQ I found the following msg.

From: Marck D. Pearlstone
Subject: Re: Addressbook
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 04:38:07 -0700

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[...] TB only uses multiple addresses in the address book by
addressing  a  message  to  *all*  addresses  listed, either
directly  of  in  BCC.  It  is  more  appropriate  in the TB
universe to have a separate AB entry for each address [...]

  I'm  trying to resolve a question that I've posted
  under the subject "AB group".

  I  create  an AB group of people.

  I address an email to the group.

  Can  TB!  parse  the  name  of the group into the
  individual address within the group?

  If  so,  what  is  the  proper  way to address the
  group? I have not been successful with this.

  As an experiment, I created the following:

  Group = Jan Rifkinson
  handle = janrif

  Within the group:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  If  I  want to address an email to the group, what
  do  I do?  I don't seem to be the only person with
  this problem.

  Thanks.

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Re[2]: A Question about Distribution Lists

[Benito Carral]

Hello Mark,

M> Address the message to "My friends" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
M> then put all of your friends' addresses (or the name of the address
M> book group) in the BCC header. If you can't see that, then enable it
M> from the menu option "View -- Blind CC".

Thank you very much for the trick, I suppose it was more a RFC
thing  than  a TB! thing, so thank you very much for your time. Do you
know  if  it  is possible to automatize the task? I mean that when you
send  a  message  to  a  address  book group, it appears automatically
"From: Benito", "To: My Friends", "BCC: ".

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Re[2]: A Question about Distribution Lists

[Jamie Dainton]

Hello George Mealer,
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:38:32 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Monday, October 30, 2000, 18:38:32 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time,

George Mealer wrote:

GM> So what's the safest way to munge your address within the message, but
GM> still let other people know who you are? Easy; you don't give an
GM> address, but rather instructions as to how to repair the one in the
GM> header..."Replace 'invalid' with 'com'" in the above address.
GM> Alternately, you can do what I do in my usenet postings, and put
GM> something like "geo *AT* snarksoft *DOT* com".

The other one is to leave your address as plain text. When spam is
received act on it.  Inoshiro  wrote an excellent
article on how to find the originator of spam. There is also and
excellent guide called "How to find spammers and make them suffer"
floating about on the internet. The other common places to harvest
e-mail addresses is ICQ and AIM. If a spammer adds themselves to your
list and you can get their IP address, have a little fun with them.
It's suprising the amount of spammers who don't realise they're
running compromised. For more information on dealing with spammers
check out #hack #spam on EFNet servers.

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Re[2]: A Question about Distribution Lists

[Charlie (ceejay)]

Hi Marck,
 On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, at 15:03:12 [GMT +] you wrote:

JR>> So, to be clear, does that mean that you just insert
JR>> ".nospam"  to  confuse  the  bots  or is that a real
JR>> address?

MDP> Yes and no ;-). Yes, it's just to confuse the bots. No, it's not a
MDP> real address.

Actually Marck nospam *is* a registered domain
.com .co.uk .net .org.uk and .org are all registered.

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Re[2]: A Question about Distribution Lists

[Kevin]

Hello Marck D. Pearlstone,

On Monday, October 30, 2000, 14:49:29, you wrote,
  
M> Hi Kevin,

K>> I may be mistaken but isn't it still possible for them to harvest
K>> e-mail addresses that have obvious anti-spam additions to the
K>> e-mail address?

M> Although it is possible, I don't think that they bother. Taking a
M> freely published address is "fair game". Manipulating a masked address
M> of an individual who is clearly asking not to be bothered is an
M> absolute infringement of that individual's rights.

As I'm sure you've noticed I don't 'munge' my e-mail address at all,
surprisingly I receive very little spam, at least compared with
others, guess I'm just lucky, now I've said that I'll probably be
deluged with the stuff.

M> Believe it or not, spammers actually believe they provide a
M> legitimate and necessary service!

Oh, I believe it. It's the best way for them to justify wasting
everyone elses time and in some cases money.

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Re[2]: A Question about Distribution Lists

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hi Marck,

On  Monday,  October  30,  2000  14:02:00  +  in
reference  to  "A Question about Distribution Lists"
you wrote:

Marck> By  seeding a published address with ".nospam", it is
Marck> effectively soured for spam-bots and rendered useless
Marck> in the address databases.

So, to be clear, does that mean that you just insert
".nospam"  to  confuse  the  bots  or is that a real
address?

Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel. 203-431-1691
ICQ 41116329

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Re[2]: A Question about Distribution Lists

[Kevin]

Hi Marck,

On Monday, October 30, 2000, 14:02:00, you wrote,
  

Marck> By seeding a published address with ".nospam", it is effectively
Marck> soured for spam-bots and rendered useless in the address databases.

I may be mistaken but isn't it still possible for them to harvest
e-mail addresses that have obvious anti-spam additions to the e-mail
address?

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Re[2]: A Question about Distribution Lists

[Jan Rifkinson]

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Hi Marck,

 On Sunday, October 29, 2000 @ 03:36:51 +, you wrote
 the  following  about  "A  Question  about Distribution
 Lists":


Marck> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...]

Marck> BTW:  I  have  added  "nospam"  to your address above
Marck> since  all postings to this list get published on the
Marck> web  in the TBUDL message archive and I wouldn't like
Marck> you  to  be the victim of spam-bot address harvesters
Marck> [...]

 This is not directly about TB! but can you explain this
 "nospam"  thing.  I'm  not  sure  I understand how this
 works.


Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
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